GameThread -3: Preseason vs Denver (Bismarck)
Denver Nuggets at Minnesota Timberwolves, Oct 19, 2008 5:30 PM CDT
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Woops, sorry everyone. I missed posting this before the game, but I wanted to share a couple box score notes and let anyone who wanted to provide their perspective do so.
See the Yahoo recap (complete with poor grammar in the headline) here and the box score here.
- Whoa, Randy Foye! 15 dimes, 8 for 8 from the line. I've been questioning his point guard abilities as much as anyone and we anyone who watched just one game last season probably saw that getting to the line was tough for Minnesota. This game was an example of precisely what the Wolves need from Foye. As much as I like Telfair's improvement, having Foye's playmaking develop to where he can get 6 or 7 assists per game would be much more welcome.
- Corey Brewer came into the game shooting 50% for the preseason (22-44) but put up a 2 for 9 stinker. As long as Corey is shooting above 40%, I'm willing to let the occassional brick-fest slide. From all accounts, Corey's been working his ass off all summer with shooting drills.
- The Kevin Ollie/Blake Ahearn showdown continues, but neither of the potential 3rd point guards played many minutes tonight (12 and change between the two of them). But, it appears that both guys made critical plays down the stretch. Ahearn hit a 3 with 33 seconds left and Ollie knocked down 4 free throws with 13 seconds to go.
- Nobody played more than 30 minutes for the Wolves; this was a night of the balanced attack. We're not going to shoot 52.6% from the field every night, but if a couple shooters can get hot while Big Al does his thing the offense will be just fine.
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Miller 7/7 from inside the arc, how rediculous is that. Seems like I missed a great game again :(.
I wonder where Ahearn’s good play is coming from .. wasn’t this the guy that most of tought wasn’t even the best out of the Neitzel-Jeter-Ahearn trio in Summer League?
I’d still have to go with Ollie though, they both play good but Ollie offers something extra off the court while Ahearn already was involved in 3 injuries… Seriously, he got poked in BOTH EYES on separate practices?
Off course I’m just joking about the injuries bit, but the veteran thing is invaluable, especially with the “still learning” mark stamped on our PG’s..
I’m still not sure how the boxscore works if you’re fouled on a play. It still counts as an attempt right? So actually it’s more like 2-6 + drew 3 fouls, right? Still not very good, next game is gonna be very interesting if the confidence goes back down the drain or not. I’ll light a little candle for him.
by Wim (Belgium) on Oct 20, 2008 2:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Foye...
Wish I would have seen this game. Just to know that our boy Foye has the CAPABILITY to drop 15 dimes in one game is a very good thing. He must have completely changed his style for a game??
by wolfen on Oct 20, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There are options now
Put yourself at point for last year’s Wolves and this year’s Wolves. Its a whole lot easier to be thinking like a pass-first PG when you have multiple positive options as you bring the ball upcourt.
Last season, you’d be choosing between getting the ball to a double-teamed Al, Brick-Layer Brewer, Legend-in-his-own-mind McCants or maybe Gomes.
This season, Al’s gonna see fewer doubles, Love will be a viable inside option, Brewer seems able to find the twine often enough, McCanys will be playing more for a contract rather than his own ego, Gomes remains solid and we add Mike Miller to the list of options.
by A.K. Agikamik on Oct 20, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree to an extent...
So you are saying that Foye will look to pass more this year or that he passed/distributed a lot last year but those shots didn’t fall? You would hope at the pro level that a PG would try to distrubute no matter who is teammates are. We definitely have more options this year though. I REALLY hope Foye pushes the ball up the court faster this year. We have some excellent wing flyers this year in Brewer, McCants, and Carney. They can all fill the lanes nicely on the break. And some excellent options for trailers as well – Miller, Love, etc. The game is so much easier when you push the ball. Hopefully we’ll become a team who does that more and more….
by wolfen on Oct 20, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having more scoring options
will definitely make Foye a more effective point guard. As far as pushing the ball upcourt, Foyes responsibility will more often be slowing it down and setting up an offensive set after the outlets from the bigs to the wings racing down the floor has been countered by opposing teams transition defense. In other words, the ability to run begins with the defensive rebound and outlet passes to the wing players and guards releasing down court, which might be Foye, Brewer, Carney, McCants, Miller, ect. If Foye gets the oultet and the scoring opportunity is there on transition he should take it, but just as often he will need to be the one to pull back and let Jefferson and Love get set up in the halfcourt offense, especially when the fastbreak opportunity isn’t there.
An NBA point guard distributes the ball to players who are scoring threats. Having a limited supply of those types of players is a liability. Last year Foye and the Wolves were placed at this disadvantage for most of the season and with most rotations with Jefferson as the only other scoring threat on the floor and opposing defenses able to double or triple team him. WIth the pg responsibility for getting the ball to Al, this often led to unnecessary turnovers. A great point guard, such as Steve Nash, Chris Paul or others might have been able to still be effective if they were exchanged with Foye last year and found themselvs in a Twolves unifrom. However, there is little doubt that having Miller and Love on the floor with Foye runnign the point will open up Al down low and give Foye other opportunities as well. If Foye doesn’t get more assists and less turnovers this year than last then we will know he is not going to be the pg of the future that the Wolves need. I think offensively, things are going to be much easier for him, though.
by Andy B on Oct 20, 2008 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Risk Reward
If I am on the perimeter, guarded with the ball and I see last year’s Brewer out of the corner of my eye squared and open from 19, my calculus is that a pass to him results in a bucket maybe 35% of the time.
Same scenario this season, but its Mike Miller ready to rock from 19, my probability calculation goes to high 40’s. I make that pass all night long. With last years Brewer, I dribble aimlessly a la T-Hud hoping that Big Al gets semi-open before the shot clock hits 5. Totally different approach.
by A.K. Agikamik on Oct 20, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you dribble aimlessly like T-Hud too?
I always love doing that. Pisses off everyone else on my team.
by plinytheelder on Oct 20, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, for the box score numbers. You can give a great pass to someone’s that open, if they miss it, you get 0 assists… So don’t forget that an assist only counts if they other guy makes it, wether the pass was perfect or not.
Not saying it explains the 15 assists but passing is something, imho, you have to see to be able to judge.
by Wim (Belgium) on Oct 21, 2008 5:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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