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Defeated by Sleep-Walkers


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For the 2nd night in a row, Our Beloved Puppies were defeated by a team that was able to sleep-walk through somewhere between 2/3 and 9/10 of the game yet still turn on the jets near the end to secure victory.  The game against Denver also marked the team's 8th loss in a row, a mark that equals last season's longest losing streak. 

Before I go on about last night's game, let me take a quick moment to say a few things about Saturday night's game against Portland.  Since the Stop-n-Pop family moved to southern Minnesota we don't get to as many Wolves games as we used to.  We used to buy a 10 pack or two of tickets in order to make sure that we saw all of our favorite teams and players, but now that we're 75 miles away from the arena, I spend my b-ball money on League Pass, a t-shirt or 2, and a nice warm up jacket. 

Saturday night's game was the 1st game I've attended at the Target Center since the last game of the 06/07 season.  We had some incredible seats (many thanks to the people who made that happen) and a great time was had by all.  The NBA still has the best athletes in the world and there is no better sport in the world to view up close.  For those of you looking for a good way to spend your entertainment dollars, the NBA is very much worth your while. 

With that said, I was surprised by a few things.  First, for the better part of the 1st half, you could literally hear the hum of the building (PA + furnace) over the crowd.  The most crowd-inducing moments of the night came when an older gentleman took off his shoes and went footloose during a dead ball contest and when a drunken guy in a white shirt displayed some of the worst white-boy dance moves imaginable on the big screen.  Seeing that the crowd wasn't exactly into the action on the court (which is a tragedy all onto itself and a subject for another post) the team now has a set of in-house announcers (one of whom is a Wally look-alike) who prattle on and on about how much fun everyone is supposed to be having, as well as introducing the dance team and the start of t-shirt contests.  I've been going to NBA games long enough to know that they sometimes go a bit crazy with the dog-and-pony show, but....well, when there's such a great deal of dissonance between fan interest and, say, Wally and his announcing gal friend, and when you can literally hear movement in the rafters over the cheering of the crowd, I think this should be a nightly reminder that excitement will only return to the building when the Wolves are able to put a product on the floor that can entertain its followers without all the external bells and whistles.  I should add that this is especially tough for die hard fans to watch. 

Moving on to last night's game, it was notable from the start in that Randy Wittman trotted out a starting lineup of Sebastian Telfair, Ryan Gomes, Jason Collins, Mike Miller, and Al Jefferson...who quickly proceeded to get murdered by a 12-2 run right out of the gate.  It wasn't until Randy Foye, Craig Smith, Corey Brewer, and Kevin Love came in against a trio of Nugget reserves that the Wolves were able to put together a mini-run to keep the 1st quarter from being anything more than a 10-point blow out.  (BTW: that's another 10 man 1st quarter for those of you keeping track at home.)

The starting lineup offered a mini-glimpse into what is quickly becoming the most obvious problem with this team: a dearth of above-average talent highlighted by awful guard play.  For those of you out there who have been clamoring for a tall-ball lineup, this was about as large of a lineup the Wolves can trot out on the floor.  It was quickly exposed for the offensive nothing it was. 

Each and every single time Jefferson caught the ball in the post, he was quickly doubled by anyone but Mike Miller's guy. Mostly the double came from Bassy's man, but we did see a few runs from over Gomes' way as well.  Double team, double team double team.  Even if Al was a good passer, there really wasn't anywhere for him to go as once the ball entered his hands, Mike Miller's running and cutting don't do a damn bit of good as Jefferson isn't going to hit a moving target, and it's also not likely that he'd be able to make a skip pass should Miller set up on the other side of the court.  I can't say it enough: this team has to win with offense.  If you think its small ball personnel is bad on the defensive end, you ain't seen nothing until their tall-ball guys give it a go on offense. 

Of course, the problem here may be neither small nor tall ball. 

During the Portland game, Minnesota showed some encouraging signs of offensive life in the first 1/2, scoring 51 points against a fairly decent Blazers squad.  They did so while running a nicely spaced offense that actually featured 4 men on or near the perimeter and Big Al on the low block.  Believe it or not, there were cutters and jump shots.  However, once the ball was entered to the big fella, Portland would run a double at him from behind, across the baseline.  This would force Al to either attempt a shot through a double team, a skip pass across an athletic front line, or hit a cutter.  With small or tall ball, if you are going to run your offense through a guy that can't pass, it's going to get ugly when teams scheme to make him have to choose between 3 options; 2 of which he really can't do.  Al is a fantastic player but he is also fantastically limited.  With humming rafters and drunken fans that offered more entertainment to the casual fan than did the product on the court, you really have to ask yourself if "cornerstone" is a word that should be used around Mr. Jefferson.  You also have to ask yourself if not having a real coach or a functional back court is adding fuel to the fire or whether or not Big Al is simply Zach Randolph without the baggage.

Moving on to the back court, after watching the last 2 games I feel more confident than ever in saying that Randy Foye has no business being an NBA point guard.  While he has cut down on the let's-jump-in-the-air-without-a-point plays, his new main focus appears to be passing up open threes on kick outs in favor of taking a dribble or two inside the line and jacking up the worst shot in all of basketball: the not quite 3.  The shot chart isn't up yet for last night's game but against Portland he had 6 shots that were just inside the line.

It was mentioned in the comments (plinytheelder) that perhaps Foye should view being a point as simply bringing the ball up the court and emptying it to a wing or the post and then transforming into an off guard who doesn't have the responsibility of finding mismatches, running plays, creating space and angles, etc.  I can't think of whether or not I should high-five or cry about this opinion.  This is a guy who was the team's top pick in the 2006 Draft and he is supposed to be the point guard of the future.  Yet, he doesn't seem to be aware of even the most basic point guard responsibilities.  Last night late in the game he dribbled to the wing where it was obvious a play was to be run involving a screen.  Jason Collins and Mike Miller were in the area and Foye kind of weakly passed it to Miller who was then trapped in a tight space with a 7-foot Collins, his man and 3 other bodies.  Foye just kind of stood there; apparently not seeing any sense of urgency in providing Miller with an out or creating some space on his strong hand to allow him some room to operate.  Turnover.  Foye was greeted on the bench with a WTF look from Witt. 

Let's wrap this bad boy up with some bullet points:

  • Kevin Love = 4th quarter MIA.  At this point in the season, let me play a bit of Devil's Advocate by asking this: If Love isn't going to play in the 4th, and Big Al needs a back court buddy more than ever, can the Mayo/Love trade already be declared a disaster simply on terms of how the 4th quarters have been played this year? 
  • Denver went on a 21-4 run to close out the game. 
  • Shaddy played decent defense last night against Melo.  After his awful performance against Portland (which was greeted with some boos) this fact probably accounts for all of his 16:11 of playing time.
  • When will Mike Miller shoot the ball?  4 shots isn't going to cut it for a guy who can't defend.  I always suspected they'd trade him after the season was done.  I'm beginning to think he won't last that long.
  • Minnesota has lead during the 4th in 6 out of their 8 losses.
  • Britt's place has a new URL.  No comments!?

That's about all for now. 

Until later.

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Re: Brit's new blog...

… I can’t find an RSS feed for just him… that will piss me off.

by wyn on Nov 17, 2008 10:05 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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Seeing that the crowd wasn’t exactly into the action on the court (which is a tragedy all onto itself and a subject for another post) the team now has a set of in-house announcers (one of whom is a Wally look-alike) who prattle on and on about how much fun everyone is supposed to be having, as well as introducing the dance team and the start of t-shirt contests.

The saddest attempt at an ad campaign/promotion/crowd entertainment was the introduction of the famous sports announcer with the lisp who said he was going to “eat, sleep and ….. eat Timberwolves.”

This is getting bad. I was sitting behind McHale and when Portland started going ahead and Roy was going around Gomes and then took the steal for a fast break dunk in the fourth, he literally put both hands on either side of his head and bent his head between his knees. I thought he was either crying or throwing up. I actually feel bad for him.

by Andy B on Nov 17, 2008 11:03 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOL on Andy B's McHale Comment...

It’s rare in pro sports to be given much in the way of second chances; McHale’s been given enough rope to hang himself 2 or 3 times. I wonder if, deep down watching Roy (or any other number of missed decisions he’s made) he ever admits to himself that he just maybe, MAYBE doesn’t have it in him.

by jianfu on Nov 17, 2008 11:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I've always wondered about that...

….on radio interviews he always finds a way to work in something about the Glory Days and it’s always a bit awkward. He seems like a smart guy and I wonder if he has some doubt that he can’t do it on his own.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 17, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jefferson

I think you’ve articulated the problem with Jefferson well here: He’s too limited to function as a face-of-the-franchise type player (as we’re seeing now), but it’s unclear how effective he’d be as a team’s 2nd or 3rd banana. Because if he isn’t using tons of possessions to score he’s really not playing to what he does well, and he lacks enough secondary (for lack of a better term, or how bout “non-scoring”) skills to operate much differently than he currently is.

And I know it’s easy for fans to nit pick and blame the team’s best player when things aren’t going well (see Mauer, Joe), and this is all probably not fair to Al. But A) like Mr Robson, given the rest of the team is so equally mixed up and misused, I find it difficult to even know where to begin and B) Al’s doing everything he was brought here to do: to be the alpha dog scoring big man and the focus of the offense, and he’s doing it very, very well. Yet still, while the rest of the supporting cast is in disarray (to be fair), we seem to be seeing the experiment likely has rather limited upside. Or at the very least, has a LONG way to go before we see a team worthy of legitimate hopes.

by jianfu on Nov 17, 2008 11:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It is kind of worrisome...

..they just kind of went “he’s The Guy” and went with it. There’s a certain aspect of “it’s the best they can do” to all of this, but still….kind of scary when you take into consideration the guys making the decisions here.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 17, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

Al Jefferson is a Post player and that is what he does best. Close games are rarely won from his position. The “Dagger” shot in a game is not a PF/C special. The only players in his position versatile enough to do this are Zach Randolph (shoots 3s), Dirk Nowitski (Fadeaway, 3s, elbow jumpers), KG (elbow jumper) and Tim Duncan (the master)

He doesnt disappear in the 4th quarter he just doesnt get the touches in the position he plays best. There needs to be a new play in at crunch time- not the normal clearout, back down 5 seconds, hook shot. The move takes too long especially in the free-throw time in the 4th quarter. Last night Duncan scored the winner off a high screen and roll with a drve into the paint. I dont think I saw any Pick and rolls last night.

by WhaHuh on Nov 17, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But the problem with that...

…is that other upper-level 4s and 5s offer things like defense and ball movement in those types of situations. Al is a fantastic post scorer. After that…he has his issues.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 17, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was watching...

during that nuggets game for Miller or Foye even being on Al’s side of the court or somewhat open as he was working down low and it basically never happened. I’m guessing you are right in that he can’t find those sneaky passes some of the great bigs could but the offense doesn’t seem to have the first 3 levels of the pyramid… it is hard to expect the tip to stand up.

by Pants_ on Nov 17, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the shout-out!

I think I kind of wrote that comment on the fly – maybe in lieu of watching a Don Overbeck commercial. ;) I think that what I sorta meant was this: Foye’s one chance of being a decent point or combo guard is to say “I’m getting mine,” in other words to emulate Chauncey Billups. Watching Billups (whom I thought Foye guarded very well, except when he went under the screen at the end of the game) was instructive: he brings the ball up and almost always makes at least one entry pass to the wing or, less often, to the post. But as soon as he gets rid of the ball, he starts looking for it again, and when he gets it, he’s attacking – which, for him, almost always means shooting.

I get that things are more nuanced than this – a PG has to continue setting a tone, thinking about spacing/angles, etc., after he makes the first entry pass. But hey, I’m just trying to work with what we’ve got. Believe me, if there was a chance to grab Rubio or Curry I’d take it in a heartbeat – I think both of these guys have a better chance to be really good than Foye does. I just think that in the meantime, there are 73 games to be played (not including playoffs…hehe), and barring a trade, the Wolves have to figure something out back there.

Anyways I talk far too much about Foye…what did people think of Kevin Ollie? I bring him up because I thought that the stretch with him and Foye (sorry, him again) in the backcourt in the 2nd quarter was perhaps the best backcourt play the Wolves have had all season. To borrow S/P’s line about McHale trying to remake the 80s Celts, I thought they looked like a good pair of combo guards out there, sharing the ballhandling duties, playing smart, playing tough D, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ollie won himself some more minutes last night, particularly at the end of games where he’d be a steadying influence. (One thing about Foye: even when he plays reasonably well, as I thought he did last night, it all seems to fall apart in the last 5 minutes.)

I like your point about Love too. Slump or not, 19 years old or not, I think that he’s their most creative player, and that he has to be in there in crunch time.

by plinytheelder on Nov 17, 2008 4:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Does it all come down to shooting?

This is what I can’t figure: how is this team shooting so badly? Everyone with the exception of AJ and Brewer are shoting worse this year, and Foye, McCants and Smith are shooting noticeably worse. IT would be OK if a lot of their shots were being eaten up by Miller and Love (who hasn’t been so good recently), but that isn’t the case. I guess, given the relative minutes these guys were expected to be playing, and who should be on the court at the end of games, it really comes down to this: how are Foye and McCants shooting so much worse than last year? And can it be fixed? Because if it can’t be fixed, this team is going to see a whole lot more of these OKC-POR-SA-GS-POR-DEN games this year. And plenty of the SAC road games too.

Seems to me it’s coming down to a combination of 3 things:

1. These guys ARE struggling at the end of games. Some of it is defense getting tougher, but a lot of it is these guys just failing when the pressure is on. Not sure what we can do about that, but these guys have to man up and shoot. If you’re a basketball player, you have to want to shoot when the game is on the line. See Mayo, OJ.

2. The offense seems to be WORSE than last year’s. Hard to blame anyone other than Witt. The charitable answer is “we spent so much time in the preseason on D there wasn’t any time left” (SnP has already stated why focusing on D with this team is a waste of effort — and see what the Knicks have done with 1 preseason in a real offensive scheme). The less charitable answer is this guy can’t coach. Other than getting the ball to AJ on the block, we have no plays that maximize the ability of the talent that we have. How about some reggie-miller like screen plays for M. Miller? How about some isos for McCants? How about some more screen + roll for Foye/Love? How about some Love/AJ two-man game? How about getting Gomes to spots on the floor where he likes to shoot?

3. Even worse than the offensive strategies is the “rotations” the coach is using. Again, we’ve beaten this to death here, but it is remarkable how hard Wit is making it on himself, and how little he appears to be able to adjust to matchups on the fly and to rest players when necessary. To repeat what has been written ad naseum on this board: a) SHORTEN THE ROTATION. b) explain to people their roles. c) come up with a starting five AND a closing five, but don’t be shy about going offense for defense (or vice versa) or for rebounding when YOU KNOW you are going to have a dead ball after you regain possesion.

  1. is the key to me. Until this team forces some consistent roles on people (maybe we’ve been waiting for Collins all this time, but it would have been easier just to give MadDog his minutes rather than jerking everyone else around for the first 7 games), right or wrong, you’re going to have a bunch of players not knowing what they’re supposed to be doing AND not knowing what others are going to be doing, and this team isn’t just talented enough to overcome that.

If it were me, there are only 7 people that would see the floor in the last 5 minutes of a game: Foye, Miller, Gomes, AJ and Love with Brewer and Collins coming in for defensive/rebounding purposes. You need 3s? Then maybe you play McCants instead of Gomes, but that leaves you sorely exposed on the defensive end. Looking at it, it’s a pretty depressing group of players to have as your best bunch, but if they play together, they should be able to top last year’s win total. We also can figure out what Love, Foye and AJ have in them, and we can see if Brewer is going to be a defensive stopper or not. Those things in and of themselves would be a victory this year at this point.

And I appreciate McCleak’s optimism, but I have to say this is the worst I’ve felt about the Wolves in my 20 years following the team. Sure, watching Laettner and Rider and Person wasn’t fun, and Davis and Blount and the rest of the motley crew that have passed through Tarjay have been disasters, but most of those guys had confidence (if anything too much confidence). Other than AJ, our supposed best players are playing scared (in my opinion). They just seem completely lost AND completely resigned to their fate (i.e., blowing 4th quarter leads). From the top to the bottom of the organization, they all know that there’s been a “no confidence” vote and they came out on the wrong end. It’s amazing, because there was so much promise in the Spurs game (just 5 losses ago!), and now here we are. Change has got to come. And Wit isn’t enough. I’m just afraid that we’re not looking at only 73 more games until McHale loses his job, but 1 or 2 more years after that. What a waste.

by Sterno on Nov 17, 2008 5:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Excellent points...

…as always. I think the offensive struggles and shooting are especially baffling. There is also very little chemistry between any of the main players. The rotations are simply baffling.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 17, 2008 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I also agree...

….that this is the worst I’ve felt about this team in a long, long time. It feels like the pre-KG days again.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 17, 2008 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's all rotations

There were two plays right at the start of the 1st quarter that just made it so clear — both times collins set a pick for miller who drove to the middle and then passed back to collins as if he was going to “pop”. That’s OK if you’re throwing it to AJ or Love, but Collins? Not so much. If I remember correctly, one was a turnover and the other was barely saved by collins that resulted in a bad shot late in the clock. Either way, it helped the wolves fall behind 12-2, though that only seemed to lull the nuggets to sleep.

As for my issues with the wolves, my wife has had just about enough — i need to get some perspective. For whatever reason, watching the games on TV is much more frustrating — i think it’s the lack of the community around you plus you can see what’s going to happen before it does even better. That being said, as a fan from season 1, i feel like i have a lot invested in this team and the return has been pretty minimal, spread out over 20 years. And I feel like we’ve been sold a bill of goods about 3 of our last 4 draft picks, and all of our free agent signings since run to the conference finals. It’s not a happy feeling.

by Sterno on Nov 17, 2008 7:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

…I can swallow McCants or Brewer by themselves but taken together with Foye I’m right there with you. There are so many ways in which the Foye pick doesn’t, didn’t, and will never make sense that…well, it’s crazy and for them to bill the guy as being 4th Quarter Foye while the guy they took and traded wins ROY, it’s hard ot swallow. At this point it is so obvious that this front office is lead by a guy completely out of his league. He’s FUBARd this thing so many times that it’s becoming increasingly hard to pay any attention to the club because he’s still there. You know that they won’t turn it around when he’s making the decisions.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 18, 2008 6:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That should read number 3 is key to me

Not sure why that formatted the way it did, but whatever.

by Sterno on Nov 17, 2008 5:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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