GameThread 11: vs. Boston
by wyn on Nov 21, 2008 7:00 PM CST
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I wouldnt go that Far
LOL…Realistically the Wolves wont win…But just look at the two Final Scores last year….
I like this start
they’re missing shots because they’re too amped up, but they’re good shots, they’ll start to drop
Every minute Jason Collins plays...
….a kitty dies.
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They really did...
…run a p-n-r with Collins and Gomes. I’d like to believe such a thing wasn’t possible, but there it was.
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lol
call me crazy but I kind of like Collins starting…maybe I just became a fan when he played Bosh so well in the playoffs a few years ago, but I feel like he sets a tone defensively.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
Every time the team runs a play for Jason Collins....
….Al Qaeda wins.
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Is Anybody else Sick of all the KG hype
I Mean My god…all i heard today on KFAN was the Damn Soundbite of KG on National TV Sounding like a Complete F*ckin Retard Going “THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY IN SOTA!,,, ANYTHING’S POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!” SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!.
Agreed.
He was part of the culture here and between the salary and being co-GM and forcing the team’s hand on guys like T-Hud, both parties had to move on.
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I also hate the Fact
That whenever we play the Celtics now…The Fans only come to see KG…MOVE ON….HES NOT COMING BACK!!!!!!!…Look at the wolves…QUIT FOLLOWING KG.
Did J-Pete really say...
….that the Celtics were nervous tonight? Really? The world champs against the 208 Wolves?
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How many other teams...
….in the NBA had a game where they didn’t start one of their last 5 1st round picks? Now that Foye is back in there, the Wolves have 1. Before he was in there, I think they had a game where there were none.
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Foye
should be looking to shoot over Rondo, in my humble opinion. Catch the ball and shoot young man.
I like Rondo
on the whole but this is a tough start for Foye – he’s trying not to make mistakes again.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Are there plenty of KG Celtics replicas in the crowd tonight?
I hope having KG actually playing in the Target Centre for another team will finish off
the love affair.
they showed a few fans
wearing 5 Celts jerseys
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
I have one.....Just not on
Wearing my Big Al Jersey instead….But i also saw alot of #21 Wolves Jersey’s in the crowd as well
Perhaps Shaddy? But
I would even go so far as to give up foye. I like the idea of having a potential Kaman/AlJeff/Love frontcourt w miller and Telfair, a smaller version of Rajon Rondo that I think the Celts just showed is good enough when you have talent to pass it to. Bring gomes and smith off the bench. Throw in an expiring contract as DR says, I think its pretty doable.
by Uncle Junior on Nov 21, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
why would the Clippers
give up Kaman for Collins and Foye or McCants? Surely they can get a lot more than that for him.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed. you would have to give them Foye or Shaddy and Collins
But Pliny is right…i dont think the clips would do that.
Kaman posted some pretty nice numbers one year.
I think there are lots of teams who can make up way more attractive packages than us.
Bassy seems to have turned it around a bit in this game
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yeah he's by far the best PG tonight...
…Foye is stinking it up.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
well they do need a combo type guard
look at their roster, besides baron and rookie eric gordon whos gonna play for them that could help them in the future? foye would be a good gamble for them to make, imo
I don't see why a team that chose Gordon
would be particularly interested in Foye or McCants, it would give them the same problem as us – a bunch of guys at the same position. They’d never hear the end of it if they traded Kaman for a bench guy.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
I've never been a fan of the caveman...
…I don’t know why the Wolves would want him.
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I have no idea why al is in there
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too much of a risk for the 3rd foul
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especially with the celts' bigs in foul trouble
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I do
Big AL goes back to being a power forward and Kaman gives you 14-10 from the center position for the next 4 years. No more tweener line-ups.
Then they admit that they FUBAR'd another draft
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I don't see it happening.
We don’t have anything that would attract them.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
I guess that's what eventually..
…makes it seem like a no-go for me. Kaman is a good player but I just can’t imagine what it would take to get him.
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with terrible shooting no less
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Collapse on penetration...
…and Pierce and live with whatever else they throw at you.
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BRB...
Gotta run to the store and pick up a case of Beer…I have a feeling i might have to be drunk to watch the 4th quarter……..
make mine a double
i have a feeling i’m goin to need it in the second half.
pliny thanks for that link earlier, i’m in there, though my connection sucks…
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
hey good to hear!
apparently there are a bunch of those kind of sites, I’m pretty ignorant about them.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
oh in other news
still no letter from DrP, “it’ll be there by Monday” LOLZ!
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
i've been meaning to write you a note about that
lolz predictable. i think you’re going to have to pull the trigger, i hear through the grapevine the snaz did it too. it was noble to hang on as long as you did and give him a chance. how was your pow wow with conlo re this?
and i’m just tuning in to the game but how are the wolves shooting 27% from the field and leading? and is mike miller conducting some kind of work slowdown to protest inhumane treatment of workers under the capitalist mode? that dude needs to shoot the ball.
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
thanks homez
no worries, I figured you were busy. I’ll email you more about it.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
like a college game
the big team is lulling in the first half, then wakes up in the 2nd half to get the win.
hope im wrong
That's been the pattern so far this year...
…however, unlike earlier games, this one appears to be hard fought on both ends. The losses against some of these other teams have been tough to watch because of the 3 quarter sleepwalking factor.
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Post on Kaman from espn
News: Kaman had 25 points on 11-of-13 shooting with 14 rebounds, six assists and four blocked shots in 38 minutes Wednesday night in the Clippers’ victory over the Thunder.
Spin: This was Kaman’s third consecutive double-double, all coming after rumors broke that the Clippers were evaluating Kaman’s value in the trade market. He has at least one block in every game (3.0 bpg) this season, and is averaging 19.0 points and 13.3 rebounds in his three-game post-rumor run.
in other words...
…why trade him for 2 bench guys?
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
hehe
good point. I think that’s the only reason this trade would happen.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
The Clips...
…actually have a pretty solid history of being stingy on drafts. They took the Wolves for a ride with Marko and I’m sure they are asking for the moon with Kaman. I get that Kaman would make a nice pair with Al and that Love would compliment them nicely off the bench, but it’s not happening with this front office and LAC.
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whoops....stingy on trades.
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BTW...nice feature on Al at the 1/2
….he’s pretty easy to root for.
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The NBA: Where 36 point halves happen
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Remember folks,
…it’s Boston’s tough d:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQaVvf2VOsc
I think they’re a good defensive team but they’re aided by some looking the other way in terms of reffing. It’s like Green Bay’s cornerbacks. They play physical and eventually the refs just grade on a scale.
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not sure he'll be a panacea...
he’s only 6’10 and doesn’t exactly look like an above-the-rim type guy, in other words he’s a lot like Al and Love
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
so really what would pekovic bring in a best case scenario?
i mean he looked fine in those video clips (thanks hoopus) but we didn’t see him playing any defense.
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
I bet he could be a 15-8 guy
but his skill set looks pretty similar to Jefferson’s, size too
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Big Al...
…is certainly living up to his part of the bargain at the 5:
http://www.82games.com/0809/08MIN13.HTM#bypos
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let me rephrase
i meant to add on that the develop applies to love, but as for aljeff hes gonna wear himself out a few years too early
by Uncle Junior on Nov 21, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
would it be ridiculous
if he keeps that up if we took him with a top 5 pick
by Uncle Junior on Nov 21, 2008 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
he certainly has the physical tools...
…except for the hands. Hands of stone. Troy Williamson has velcro compared to this guy.
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probably
those stats aren’t exactly against “elite” big men
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Nope...
….and he’ll likely never play out of the zone all year. It’s hard to get a read on his man d.
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Put Love in and go to him at the high post....
….ooops…they took him out too quickly
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The Wolves:
They’ll spot you Jason Collins and a 3 point specialist who doesn’t shoot the damn ball.
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Human cock fighter, Brock Lesnar!!!
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i'm watching
the celtics feed, they just ran an excellent kg-in-minnesota highlight reel coming out of the time out, including mad outlet pass to r. avis…
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:33 PM CST reply actions
wittman chewing foye's ass for something...
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:34 PM CST reply actions
he is stinking tonight
if he’s not going to shoot he might as well not play
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
probably for not rotating miller over
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and general suckiness tonight
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that dude needs to go get drunk before the game or something
anything to get him out of his head
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
mario chalmers
couldve helped him out with that :)
by Uncle Junior on Nov 21, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
what could we get for him
this isnt a gut reaction i just hate the whole experiment with him at the point. realistically, any news on who is interested/what they could fetch?
by Uncle Junior on Nov 21, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
nothing...
…he and Shaddy have zero trade value.
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I know they did last year with Shaddy
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Wolves now have zero of their 1st rounders on the floor
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OK...
we all know where the double team is coming from. adjust accordingly.
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boston commentators
suggesting k love should have stayed in school
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:39 PM CST reply actions
those Boston guys
are the worst announcers in the league. I think they got Heinsohn. Man I have never listened to a bigger homer than that dude.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
I can't stand Tommy...
…although it is funny when he yells at the refs.
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i actually like watching heinsohn
just for the ridiculousness of it: TOMMY POINT!
but tonight he was on the halftime show and we have someone else doing the game, pretty dull whoever it is
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Randy Wittman...
…has the deer in the headlight look.
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well to be honest
so would I if I had these shooting options lol
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
randy wittman
looks like he just accidentally swallowed a coin
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:42 PM CST reply actions
read below
who else is gonna do anything? miller and aljeff should just play pass it back and forth till one get an open shot
by Uncle Junior on Nov 21, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I'd love it if he shot every time too
but you can’t do it when you’re double-teamed, especially when KG is doing the double-teaming
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
idc if he takes 30 shots tonight
nobody else is doing jack and if mike wont shoot it lets feed it to the big guy
OK...I'm tired of the great defense talk
Section VIII-Defensive Three-Second Rule
a. The count starts when the offensive team is in control of the ball in the front-court.
b. Any defensive player, who is positioned in the 16-foot lane or the area extending 4 feet past the lane endline, must be actively guarding an opponent within three seconds. Actively guarding means being within arms length of an offensive player and in a guarding position.
c. Any defensive player may play any offensive player. The defenders may double-team any player.
d. The defensive three-second count is suspended when: (1) there is a field goal attempt, (2) there is a loss of team control, (3) the defender is actively guarding an opponent or (4) the defender completely clears the 16-foot lane.
e. If the defender is guarding the player with the ball, he may be located in the 16-foot lane. This defender is not required to be in an actively guarding/arms dis-tance position. If another defender actively guards the player with the ball, the original defender must actively guard an opponent or exit the 16-foot lane. Once the offensive player passes the ball, the defender must actively guard an opponent or exit the 16-foot lane.
PENALTY: A technical foul shall be assessed. The offensive team retains pos-session at the free throw line extended. The shot clock shall remain the same as when play was interrupted or reset to 14 seconds, whichever is greater.
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the hand checking is also ridiculous
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KG's block was brought about by him just sitting in the middle of the lane guarding no one.
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Pierce could have been called for it too
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al jeff...
looks like he’s wearing ankle weights on d
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:46 PM CST reply actions
funny
al jeff does the same thing and the other team scores
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:47 PM CST reply actions
seriously snp
thanks for posting the rule, i’m enjoying focusing in on the defensive execution
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions
The Knicks aren't going to get Lebron...
…they just ran a special about the Knicks trades today. No way they land Lebron.
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Look at Rondo...
….not even pretending to guard anyone.
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he's been fine lately
but is sure stinking tonight
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
OK then...it's been fun gents.
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but what about the fourth quarter?
isn’t this when the wolves shine?
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
:)
I just don’t think I can watch too much more of this. As a project for everyone during the 4th, watch what Boston does with 1 of its 2 bigs in the lane on defense. 1 of the 2 sets up near the free throw line and just sits there. You could call a 3 second violation on damn near every possession.
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to my mind
that’s why they should get rid of the rule. If you’re going to let them play zone don’t be half-ass about it.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
I can live with that...
…I think there should be zero rules on zone d.
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yeah wouldn't it be nice
to not assume the fans are all idiots and need ACTION ACTION ACTION every second? It would be so much more interesting.
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
I think they'd...
…have to move in the 3 point line and widen the lane, but I agree. As it stands right now, the Celtics just put 2 7 footers in the lane and have them hack anyone that comes near.
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this is the first game i havent been too busy to watch in its entirety.
i have to stay on principle, but this is terribly depressing
I'm stealing that for the post tomorrow :)
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wolves will set a new record for shooting tonight
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 8:57 PM CST reply actions
http://www.nba.com/history/records/regular_fieldgoals.html
Lowest field-goal percentage, game
.229-Milwaukee vs. Minneapolis, at Buffalo, November 6, 1954 (22/96)
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Awesome push off on the rebound against love
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My God...
…43 is trying to kill Love
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Finally
Perkins has been all but punching Love in the face on the last 4-5 possessions.
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Put in Carney for Miller...
….and run, run, run, run, run.
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Hack and foul and gamble on D
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hear about Quentin Richardson
or whatever his name is calling out the Celts the other day? “Come to my neighbourhood and try to say that” Nice to see the Knicks talking some trash hehe.
interview with lesnar!
“it’s been pretty awesome”
“every fight i just try to do my best and become a better fighter”
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:02 PM CST reply actions
J-Pete is Back in the Crack Cocaine
He Just Said the Most Preposterous Statement i’ve ever heard
“If We made a few more shots we’d still be in this game…The Wolves have Held Boston in Scoring, Boston has had a bad night scoring wise….”
yep...caught it...
….it went right on my list for the night:
“this is a trap game”
“we saw a lot of those missed shots when Marko was here last year”
“the world champs are nervous tonight”
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You know...
…as much as Blazers fans annoy me with their talk about Oden, I want to see him dunk on Perkins.
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that quote about marko=LOL
meanwhile, madsen leaps up off the bench to protest the foul…
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:07 PM CST reply actions
though i have to say
tonight’s performance almost makes me miss marko…
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
put him in our fast-paced run and gun game
and let the chaos ensue
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Not that i hate to disagree but what i'm about to say is worse
Tonights Performance Makes Me Miss Fat One Walker.
Hanny makes a play for J-Pete's ridiculous statement award...
…“not having McCants doesn’t help”
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Someone please punch Perkins right between the eyes.
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"there are some guys in the league
who have the misfortune that whenever you see them, they never play well"
—boston announcer, re: foye
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:13 PM CST reply actions
My god...
…he could have fouled out 5 minutes into the 1st. Absolute garbage. Patrick O’Bryant signing!!!
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unfortunately
we know what they got
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
that wolf at halfcourt
looks like it just accidentally swallowed a coin…
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
OK...this time I mean it...
…night gents. My daughter just came back inside from playing soccer with her friends in the backyard and it’s time for a beer.
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missed it
my stream randomly got switched to the trailblazers game, what a relief!
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
is that the one where
every once in a while some one bangs a gong and chases him off the stage?
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:24 PM CST reply actions
i'm kinda bummed they didn't get the field goal futility record tonight
finishing at 31%
by secretarykissinger on Nov 21, 2008 9:25 PM CST reply actions
now you're missing
Lexus of Maplewood and lexus of Wayzata commercials
by plinytheelder on Nov 21, 2008 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
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