Game Thread #5: @ Sacramento
by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:00 PM CST
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Minnesota Timberwolves at Sacramento Kings, Nov 7, 2008 9:00 PM CST
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No kidding
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Starting Lineups
Minnesota
M. Miller G
S. Telfair G
A. Jefferson C
C. Brewer F
K. Love F
Sacramento
K. Martin G
B. Udrih G
B. Miller C
M. Moore F
J. Salmons F
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A wolves-like crowd in sac town
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm so glad the Wolves didn't sign Beno
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Crowd is Worse than the Target center
and we thought Basketball was unpopular in Minnesota, Wholy Cow
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
holy cow palace
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Brewer
You gotta Quit Just Throwing it up, Slow down and reset the Offense.
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Love with the nice drive and dish
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Looks Like hes Really Developing the Style of the NBA Fast.
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
…he’s going to be good. If he could just grow 2-3 inches. Also, Mike Miller should wave a red flag on defense.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In Other News
Chris Richard Taken by the Tulsa 66ers at Pick #1 in the D-League Draft tonight.
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We could see him before the end of the year...
…I think they are the minor league team for OKC. Tulsa’s a nice town.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
These New Timberwolves Ticket Commercials are Bad
That is the Cheesiest TV Reporter Immitation.
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It Feels so good having Bassie at Point over Foye
I Dont Know what the Wolves are thinking but Foye is not a Point Guard
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
I also don’t know what Miller is thinking when he kicks it out to Bassy beyond 3 after passing up a shot.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am losing confidence in Brewer
might be Trenton Hassell part II
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Your Not The Only One
I Thought the Brewer Selection Sucked to be honest, Shoulda Picked either Brandan Wright or Rodney Stuckey
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Neither of those two are that great either
so far that 07 draft class is looking pretty weak
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If this game comes down to a last shot
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Whitman draw up a play so Kevin Ollie gets it…..
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 9:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Greeting Guys
following the boxscore on a cloudy Saturday afternoon.
I do like that starting five. Perhaps long term Gomes at the 3 for Brewer.
by Auswolf on Nov 7, 2008 9:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Greetings from a snowy Minnesota
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Greetings to fellow wolves fan in the land down under
From a Wet but Not Snowy Northern Minnesota
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Witt would give Shaddy...
…as much rope as he does Miller on defense.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tony Parker out 2 weeks:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3689164
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wondered why his numbers sucked so much...
Have we got the Spurs again soon?
Might be our chance with Parker and Manu in the stands.
by Auswolf on Nov 7, 2008 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Their win against the Wolves might be it for the 1st month
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Randy Foye...
…energy off the bench. His natural role.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Miller was beyond bad on d
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cardinal on the Bench instead of Collins?
Collins not right yet?
by Auswolf on Nov 7, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bassy is really running some nice...
…change of pace moves.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
MIkki Moore
isnt that good………we should be able to handle this team tonight
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 9:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Auswolf
Need a Stream of the game man?
its the Kings Announcers but it is the game
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
Nice ads too
Not sure Bud Light is ever drinkable though
by Auswolf on Nov 7, 2008 9:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bud Light is nasty
I’m a Bud Select Guy Myself
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Surly...
…is the official beer of Canis Hoopus.
http://www.surlybrewing.com/index.php
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They'll pull it around...
…sacramento benefited from good shooting and bad d
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Love and Bassy
make a good p-n-r combo
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Sacramento announcers...
…just said McHale got a lot of “unfair criticism”
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Unfair Critiscism
I mean nearly half of What we got for KG is gone in Ratliff and Green..Yeah, Pretty Unfair.
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They then quoted J-Pete
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think if you're a member of the Wolves organization...
…you have to sell the product 24/7 no matter what. Country club 4-evah.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ole!!!
Foye with the matador d.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
McCants is in...
…full stop-the-offense mode.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Are Love and Bassy still on this team?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can this team make some layups?
And stop them too?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's pretty stunning...
…a lot of it is poor team d. On that last drive by Beno Miller got spun around and Big Al just stood there.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
competent defense is all that is needed...
And the team’s best defenders have been on the bench for a while now.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess when Tony Parker
drops 55 on you, its pretty obvious the defense blows
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
We suck. The Kings are doing what they want. Salmons and Udrih! Oh, please.
I don’t see us play live very often, but the words the come to mind are disorganised and impatient.
And get Love on the court.
by Auswolf on Nov 7, 2008 9:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how many layups they've missed tonight
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ths is getting Bad Fast
I Know we are young and Inexperienced but still, Our Defense Shouldnt Be this damn bad.
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 9:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
COME ON!!! ARE YOU AWAKE OUT THERE?
yeah i heard that guy too
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Over at the Kings site...
…they are joking about it too. You can hear individual fans yelling at the players.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going with the "bad-rotations" excuse....
…for the defense. What do they expect with shaddy, foye, gomes, smith, and ollie?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Ollie
looks like a goofy son of a bitch
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it's the stache
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he had a unibrow...
…he would have parallel bars.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How is Kevin Martin...
…getting superstar calls?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brewer
cant even put one down on Salmons….jesus
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brewer lost it on the way up
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well he cant shoot
so he should work on finishing
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell was up with that call?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Think we can send
Brewer, Foye and Cardinal to Charlotte for Gwall?
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He'll be alright...
…he ain’t going anywhere. He’s still the team’s best man defender and he does a lot of nice hustle things.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If i was Charlotte i wouldnt take brewer Foye and Cardinal
For Two Blowjobs and a Salami Sammich, Let alone Gerald Wallace
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Foye
could still turn out, but I would think Cardinal would be the deal breaker since he is signed through next year. What the fuck was Memphis thinking giving him that contract?
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.fanhouse.com/2007/07/04/brian-cardinals-stupid-contract-explained/
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I also wouldn't take anyone from Charlotte...
…but Felton. MJ is a worse talent evaluator than McHale. Brewer is going to be just fine.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh there are a few names
Like Felton, Gerald Wallace, Emeka Okafor that i would take.
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Felton?
Richardson, Gwall, Okafor , Augstine I think is going to be good
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DJ Augustin
Him and Bassie would be a pretty good PG Paring.
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a Charlotte fan
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they're one of those rosters...
…i wouldn’t trade for the world.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miami beats SAS
99-83
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah tony parker went down
and they were chucking up 3 pointers
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they have some problems...
…i wonder if they’d be better shutting everyone down for the year, going for the top pick and making one final run next year.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and by shutting down...
…i mean telling manu to sit out a year.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
too early for any of that
and the only way the #1 draft pick helps them out next year is if they trade it
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Golden State and Memphis...
…engaged in worst display of ball this year.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Records page
http://www.nba.com/history/records/regular_points.html
Fewest points, first half
19-L.A. Clippers at L.A. Lakers, December 14, 1999
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Wright...
…with block of the night on Rudy Gay.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Usually not many people in here during games?
I am relatively new to the blog, seems like the guy does good work.
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not too many
It’s still the Wolves. ;)
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Last year...
..they had one game with a TV audience of 1700
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
I am used to the Cubs gamethreads….
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Wolves have bottomed out as far as fan interest goes
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as far as basketball
they are all I have left
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Martin...
….with another superstar call.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the Kings really bother me
with him ,Brad Miller, Mikki Moore and Beno Udrih
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller needs to shoot that
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Miiki Moore has always been a clown, hasn't he?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ok...
…here’s a key rotation spot.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You've hit a bump with the rotation...
…and you need to adjust against their bigger lineup.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hayseed at the line
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Damnit Foye
No more long jumpers with one foot on the line. $500 fine.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
fading away no less
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wittman Looks Like he has no idea what hes doing
by Tony_O on Nov 7, 2008 10:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
agreed...
….you could see that the Kings had adjusted their lineup….hell, i posted about it above
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and what do they do when the kings put out their optimal offensive lineup?
….he puts in the worst defenders.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell...
…you may as well make it interesting by putting in something like Foye, McCants, Carney, Brewer, and Jefferson.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Miller with the moving screen
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brewer with the iso play....
…off a time out. Please tell me that wasn’t scripted.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is ridiculous
Brad Miller runs into Brewer on a screen at the other end and the refs suddenly decide they want to call a moving screen at the other end when the Rhino pivots early.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Foye on Martin...
…this is awesome.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Imagine this!!!
A coach calling a TO because of poor defense.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sheldon Williams' forehead makes an appearance in the game.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Martin with the most egregious travel non-call you'll see all year
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is Witt still on the bench?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is there any worse...
…defensive 5 in the league?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Where the f#$k is the time out?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How big of a run do you need to go on to get a rise out of the Wolves' bench?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bobby brown for 3...
…i’m calling it.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 10:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I switched over to the Dallas Denver game
awhile ago……..
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto...
…plus, TV time is over now that the better half is back from her shift at the hospital. Night y’all.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 11:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
One observation
I think the Wolves have some quality young talent. I don’t care for Witt as a coach (we complain about Theus sometimes, but he’s not nearly as awful as Witt is), but the Wolves have really started from scratch, and unlike the Kings vs the Wolves rebounding from the better years, the Kings had more talent than the Wolves did starting over.
But as far as these 2 teams go, the Kings have MIller, and Martin, and Moore, and Udrih who’ve all played 4 years or more in the League. Very few players on the court for the Wolves even have that experience. Also, I think defensively nobody on the Wolves backcourt matchup can match Bobby Brown’s ability defensively on the perimeter. (If Jason Thompson wasn’t such a valuable cog, I would have said the most shrewd thing Petrie did over the summer was sign Brown to a 2 year contract. Most underrated thing I’ve ever seen Petrie do.) That being said, I think the Wolves have talent, but they are a year away from pushing to a 500 record because they don’t quite have a complete team yet.
The difference in Minnesota and Sacramento, is Geoff Petrie and Kevin McHale. I don’t wish to rub it in, but the Iron Ranger’s ineptness is killing the Wolves at every level.
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by pookeyguru on Nov 7, 2008 11:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If I had a choice to switch rosters with the kings
I would turn it down, and do it rather quickly. I do agree that Wittman is a bad coach and McHale is an idiot though
by bheidge on Nov 7, 2008 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
So we can agree to disagree on that. Fair enough.
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by pookeyguru on Nov 8, 2008 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant on the rosters
I have always wondered why McHale has stayed employed, or more accurately why the owner guy (whom I"m blanking on his name at the moment) has kept him employed. I mean really, what dirty pic’s of this guy does McHale have? I mean for crying out loud, being a Minnesota legend doesn’t entitle him to run the Wolves past Ground Zero? Right? And yes I knew all along his name was Glen Taylor. (Wink Wink)
P.S. Witt ain’t no prize either.
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