Game Day: King Them
Game Notes:
Friday, 9:00 at Arco Arena
at Kings
TV: KSTC-45
Radio: KFAN-AM 1130
Records:
Minnesota - 1-3, Sacramento -1-4
In a rematch of the Wolves' 1st game of the year, Minnesota heads out west tonight to dance with the Kings. Sac Town is coming off a 100-95 win against the hapless Memphis Grizzlies. Brad Miller will be back in the mix of things after a 5 game drug suspension but Francisco Garcia is still out because of a calf injury.
Will the Wolves' offense continue to build off the positive developments that occurred in the loss to San Antonio? Will the Wolves hold Beno Udrih below 55 points and 10 dimes? Will Jason Thompson continue to impress? Will Kevin Love finally crack the starting lineup? Will Mike Miller continue to shoot more 3s? Will Corey Brewer play another excellent defensive game against Kevin Martin? Is "Kevin" the most dominant name in the NBA? Exactly how good would a Ollie, Martin, Durant, Love, and Garnett team be? Will the Kings hook up with the coveted Brown-Douby (as in Bobby and Quincy) connection? Will J-Pete say the words "Brown-Douby"? Do you think Brad Miller makes Douby jokes in practice?
The answers to all these questions and more, tonight at 9.
So far this year Randy Wittman has said that his players need to trust one another more and that talent has not been an issue in their losses. In doing so, he set a world record for the earliest time a coach has pulled out a desperate motivational cliche in a professional sports season. Is the clearly stated front office demand of 42-40 already getting to Witt? Does he already see his own modest in-the-30-win-atmosphere projection slipping through his fingers? Whatever it is, Witt is already contemplating blowing up the starting lineup:
Though the season is only nine days old, it's safe to call the Timberwolves' upcoming three-game West Coast trip crucial. Coach Randy Wittman says he isn't about to hit the panic button just yet, but the team's 1-3 start does leave him feeling a sense of urgency.
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Though he didn't offer specifics, Wittman on Thursday left the door open for possible lineup shifts beginning as early as tonight's game in Sacramento. Wittman said he's "seriously looking at different things" after using the same starting five in the first four games.
Given their play in Wednesday night's double-overtime loss to San Antonio, leading favorites in a potential lineup carousel are Sebastian Telfair and Kevin Love getting the nods at point guard and power forward, respectively, in favor of Randy Foye and Ryan Gomes.
And here I thought it would take until mid-December until SeBass cracked the starting lineup. To be fair to Witt, a Bassy, Miller, Brewer, Love, Jefferson starting 5 is pretty much the best unit he has on the roster. It would be a smart move and it would offer the Wolves the best chance of winning. It's nice to have a spark off the bench but it's even nicer to begin a game with your best players on the court.
Of course, a Foye move to the bench would raise the interesting possibility of a Shaddy/Foye-led 2nd unit. Will the universe collapse into itself should these two see the court together off the bench? Which player will first come to grips with the likely fact that their NBA future has "excellent 6th man" written all over it? Is it possible to have a 2nd unit Death Match?
So many questions.
Earlier this week I wrote about Barack Obama being the first baller in the White House. I should have also dropped a line about Kevin Johnson becoming mayor of Sacramento. Mr. Johnson would definitely replace Mr. Ollie on our All-Kevin team.
Wrapping this thing up, it seems that the Wolves have finally given up on playing Love Shack:
On a completely different subject, I need some help writing my Sunday NBA column. I’m going to have some fun with Kevin Love’s name and offer some suggestions to the Target Center people for game-night music. A season ago, Al Jefferson got the 1970s sitcom theme song linked to him whenever he scored a big basket. In the preseason opener at Billings, Wolves game staff played the B52s "Love Shack," which Love himself quickly nixed because "I hate that song."
Now, they’re playing the Beatles’ "All You Need is Love," a pretty obvious choice.
There’s only about 3,500 possibilities. At least that’s what an Internet database shows listing songs with the word Love in the title. There’s all kind of choices for all kinds of situations (an eight-turnover game? How ’bout Love Stinks, by J Geils Band).
My runner-up pick: When Love Comes to Town, the 1980s bluesy number that paired U2 with B.B. King.
My winner: That’s Amore, the Dean Martin version.
Your suggestions?
Hoopus readers will recognize this contest. We had Love Shack pegged as a loser from the get-go. While the O'Jay's Love Train won our little contest, I submit the following to Jerry:
Game thread later today. For a Kings fan's perspective, please visit our sister site, Sactown Royalty.
Until later.
UPDATE: On a completely unrelated note, former Wolf Chris Richard is a top prospect in today's D-League draft:
Chris Richard, F, Florida: Richard was a second round pick (41st overall) of the Timberwolves in 2007, and was assigned to Sioux Falls in February. A 6-9 forward, Richard was the SEC Sixth Man of the Year in 2007 and helped the Florida Gators win consecutive national titles as a junior and senior. He played in 52 games for the Timberwovles as a rookie in 2007-08.
In related Wolves/D-League news, Blake Ahearn is back with the Dakota Wizards.
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Posturing
I hope they start Telfair and Love in tonight’s game. If Wittman shakes things up—and benches Foye—I think it’ll be one of the first big posturing moves done by him, in what is looking more and more like a Coach vs. FO situation. McHale threw out the number 20. If Witt comes back and says that McHale’s perceived better-than-Brandon Roy can’t even start ahead of Bassy, it could have some rippling effects. Hard to say, but I think that McHale feels like he’s put together the team for a coach to win with, and Foye was supposed to be a big part of that. Wittman’s future probably hinges on more than one variable, but the starting point guard is a significant one, given the media attention to the Foye-Roy trade. Last night’s ridiculous buzzer-beater against Houston probably doesn’t help.
by Andy G on Nov 7, 2008 11:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
As much...
…as I think he can’t coach at this level, I do like Witt as a realistic voice in the country club. He was quick to say that 30-something wins was likely after McHale went with the 42-40 nonsense. It’s funny…when he gets fired I’ll still feel sympathetic towards him even though he is not a good coach because McHale is still the guy that needs to be fired before anyone else. I think the Wolves are the only club in the league where the concept of atonement runs rampant among its fans.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure how I feel about Wittman as a coach, because last year was all about evaluation and keeping guys motivated for 82 games. He did a decent job at those two things, except for the Shaddy treatment, which wasn’t always fair. As a fan, I’ll give him 20 or 30 games this year to show something—whether it’s minutes/rotations or x’s & o’s, he’s gotta show that he’s doing something productive with this roster, since it isn’t THAT bad. I wouldn’t trade it with 5-10 other teams, including tonight’s opponent.
Re the Country Club: I don’t know very much about it…I know Wittman is a Bobby Knight guy, which I admire in some ways, but not necessarily in the ways that lead to success in pro basketball. He may not be very diplomatic, which would put him in common with a lot of other coaches, but he needs to make some tough decisions (if you can call starting Bassy at point guard a tough decision) and stick with them. Love is going to be a starter—the only question is when. 78 games to go, so an early-enough commitment to the right guys could make for a fun season.
by Andy G on Nov 7, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you...
..on the motivation factor last year. He is to be commended for that. This team tanked pathetically in recent years and he kept them trying until the end. After Madsen and Memphis a few years back I’ll always be grateful for that.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As a Kings fan
I don’t desire anybody on the Wolves roster except for Corey Brewer. But I speak for myself.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 7, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Foye coming off the bench
might be a good idea too, for various reasons. If he replaced the starting 2, it would give him some minutes there, where he is comfortable, and enable him to get some of his confidence back. If he came in at the 1 – he’ll be playing there some anyways unless they play Ollie, which I don’t think they plan to do – he at least wouldn’t have the burden of starting there, and could learn the position gradually, against the other team’s 2nd unit. Of course bringing him off the bench after only 4 games could completely destroy his confidence…
I hadn’t heard about KJ getting involved in politics, any idea what his positions are? He was always one of my favourite players. I saw the Suns play the Jazz once, sat courtside for the whole 2nd half, I don’t know if Stockton just had a bad night but KJ completely dominated him, at one point he stole the ball from Stockton’s dribble (!) and had a breakaway dunk, that was pretty great. The other highlight of that evening was Karl Malone airballing a free throw. Speaking of KJ dunking, anyone remember this? What a play, over one of the all-time greats, no less:
by plinytheelder on Nov 7, 2008 1:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about his politics...
…I just caught the article. I looked over at sactown royalty for some links to a political blog or two to read about his election but I couldn’t find anything. I can’t say that I’m that up to speed on Cali politics. I was stationed in Monterey for a while but that’s it. That was a nice dunk though. I do remember it .
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When I found the dunk video on youtube
a link came up to a clip of KJ on Charlie Rose, so I took a look at it. Rose asks him about a position he took on something or other, and then says “this makes you seem like a republican!” To which KJ replies “let’s say I’m a democrat…with some republican values.” Sure enough, in that LA Times article, some people during the mayoral race were accusing him of being more conservative than his opponent, a 2-term incumbent who I presume is a republican.
Anyways…there’s also a link called something like “Olajuwon gets revenge on KJ,” which is just an incredible block by Hakeem. I hadn’t seen that one. Man, has there ever been a more beautiful player to watch than Hakeem Olajuwon?
by plinytheelder on Nov 7, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heather Fargo is a democrat actually
But she sucks donkey balls, and the real problem is she replaced a favored son of the city Joe Serna, Jr., who died in 1999, and the city government has been reeling since. The death of another son Sam Parnell, was another issue. Parnell and Serna were 2 of the best council people Sacramento ever had, and much of their progress is seen in both area’s where Parnell and Serna grew up (in Serna’s case Oak Park—He’s Mexican), and in Parnell’s case Meadowview, which is a predominantly poor black neighborhood. (I’m from Sacramento in case those who are wondering and seeing the living in Seattle now part. I live in Seattle. From Sac.) And for the record both Serna and Parnell’s name still carries alot of juice in both the Mexican and Black communities in Sacramento. A lot more than outsiders realize.
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by pookeyguru on Nov 7, 2008 8:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's umm
an Asshole. And a slum lord. But he’s popular, and popularity matters in office when it comes to politics. If Barack Obama hasn’t proven this to you, then remove your head out of your ass with a monkey wrench and get back to me.
As far as why KJ won it’s simple. There were probably alot of people who thought he couldn’t do worse than Heather Fargo (the mayor KJ replaced). And he probably isn’t worse than Greg Nickels, the stupid asshole whose mayor of Seattle. (Whom I especially hate since I live in Seattle now.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 7, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or...
…Barack Obama was simply viewed as the superior candidate on many, many, many different levels. Sometimes popularity is for good reason. Do you know of any good local Sacramento political blogs or reporters that we could link to so people can read for themselves?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmm Good Question
I am quite a bit out of touch with both politics and Sacramento politics, except surface stuff that is easy to track from anywhere, and hence I’m the wrong resource. The guy whom you should probably look up is a guy named Otis on StR, or Kusian, whom both would know where to look. But where to go? No clue. TZ might have a good clue as he knows a lot about Sac politics too.
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by pookeyguru on Nov 7, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
gracias
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Love
Can learn a few more “white men can’t jump” tricks from Brad Miller. :-)
by wolfen on Nov 7, 2008 1:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He does seem..
…to have a flair for the horizontal.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He kind of reminds me of
Bill Laimbeer except with post moves…..
by wolfen on Nov 7, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about...
…wes unseld?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!
I gotta say, I hate Laimbeer. Love Unseld. How about Derrick McKey, but with some extra bulk and a shot?
by plinytheelder on Nov 7, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate Laimbeer too but he was good at what he did. I don’t think Love will be the kind of guy who will purposely get under the skin of somebody just to get a rise like Laimbeer did. I sure hope he turns out to be better than Derrick McKey. Right now I’m thinking a Brad Miller kind of player except with better post moves and better hustle and rebounding. I could live with that. Wasn’t miller an all-star at one point?
by wolfen on Nov 7, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know...
..I’ve been thinking of opening up a cafe press shop for the site with shirts saying “Quick in Small Areas” or “Your Small Area Quickness Leader”, but “I Have a Flair for the Horizontal” is pretty nice. :) Maybe “Ask me about my hops” would work too.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 2:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by the way
if anyone lives in/near South Mpls and wants to hoop it up, I play pickup ball with some friends on Saturdays from 10 to noon in a church on Bloomington Ave. We’re always looking for some more players. Talent level varies, a few guys have only been playing for a couple of years, others are quite good. Anyways if interested email me at:
alvinwilliamsistheman@yahoo.ca
(Site administrators: hope it’s OK that I post this here, numbers have been down lately so I thought I’d spread the word, if not feel free to remove this comment.)
by plinytheelder on Nov 7, 2008 2:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's more than OK
Anytime anyone wants to post about pickup ball, they are welcome to.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Statement by Andy G
Hey guys,
So I’m a long time reader of the site, but only a first time poster. I was inspired by something Andy G recently threw out in one of his posts where he said in reference to the T-Wolves current roster “it isn’t THAT bad. I wouldn’t trade it with 5-10 other teams, including tonight’s opponent.”
This got me thinking…How many teams would I actually trade rosters with. You have to take into account current talent, potential to be good, and salary cap situation. I’ll also say that part of this hypothetical is that coaches and front offices aren’t part of the deal (unfortunately). I also realize that within the context of Andy G’s current statement, this doesn’t actually work, but I’m going to think about this hypothetical nonetheless because it’s Friday and I’ve run out of work to do around the office.
Taking all of that into consideration, the following are teams that I would trade rosters with (in order)…
1. Lakers
2. New Orleans
3. Boston
4. Portland
5. Utah
6. Miami
7. Cleveland
8. Toronto
9. Chicago
10. Houston
11. Detroit
12. Orlando
13. Our Beloved Wolves
I invite any type of discussion on this topic, as it probably deserves a much longer post then I just gave.
by Blakeley on Nov 7, 2008 3:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for posting.
I wouldn’t trade rosters with some of the older teams like Boston and Houston. My list would go Lakers, NOLA, Orlando, Toronto. I think teams like the Wolves, Portland, and Chicago are all about even. Portland has some great names but I don’t think they’ll be able to put it together soon enough.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 7, 2008 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the context of my statement was more geared toward current talent, since I meant that Wittman has an ok roster to work with, right now. With your broad-brush look, I’d still add a couple teams with more enviable situations than MN:
Spurs – they need a youth movement at the role player positions, but they’ve got a minimum of three more years of contending with their Parker-Ginobili-Duncan core.
Dallas – Dirk and Howard are in their prime and Howard’s game looks really sharp.
Philly – I don’t know how well it’s going to work, but people are raving about Thad Young, and Brand-Iggy are also legit pieces to a good team. We have more question marks than these guys do.
Phoenix and Atlanta are about the same as us—they’re both better right now, but neither has a high ceiling. I probably wouldn’t trade with either, but many people would.
Good discussion topic, though. If you asked this question during the Ricky Buckets Era in Minnesota, I might’ve traded our roster with anybody’s.
by Andy G on Nov 7, 2008 4:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
possible new starting lineup
from Zgoda:
Randy Wittman still was playing coy at the team’s morning shootaround Friday at Arco Arena, but you could tell tonight’s starting five from who wore black jerseys and who wore white: Kevin Love, Sebastian Telfair, Mike Miller, Al Jefferson, Corey Brewer.
by plinytheelder on Nov 7, 2008 5:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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