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Saturday, 9:00
at Trail Blazers
TV: KSTC-45
Radio: KFAN-AM 1130

Records:

Minnesota - 1-4, Portland -2-3

In a contest matched in its ability to rankle Wolves fans only by yearly trips to Memphis (Rudy Gay) and Boston (KG), the Wolves head to Portland tonight to face the better 1/2 of the Randy Foye draft sandwich, Mr. Brandon Roy--who is hot off of one of the best game-ending shots you will see all year. 

Tonight's game also marks Kevin Love's first return to Oregon since last year's regrettable mess between the Ducks and UCLA

Will the Wolves stick with their new starting lineup?  Will we see a Shaddy/Telfair backcourt at some point during the game?  Will Al Jefferson, Mike Miller, and Randy Foye attempt to play defense at any point during the contest?  Will Sebastian Telfair continue to impress?  Will Witt continue to roll out 1:45-2:30 rotations? 

The answers to all these questions and more tonight at 9. 

Blazer's Edge has an interesting preview of the game.  Dave correctly identifies the 3 players that should represent Minny's "Big Three" (Jefferson, Miller, and Foye), but he takes a slight turn with his take on the rest of the roster:

The other major Minnesota players are almost all forwards.  Kevin Love is the shiny, new draft pick who’s only shooting 43% so far.  Ryan Gomes is a solid forward and one of Minnesota’s only decent shooters but is starting to lose time to Love.  Craig Smith is a journeyman who is now buried in the power forward shuffle.  Small forward Corey Brewer is turning into a decent defender and rebounder but still struggles to shoot and score.  Athletic shooting guard Rashad McCants, burdened by past injuries and the lack of a perimeter game, has never lived up to his draft hype.  The ‘Wolves are thin in the backcourt and overstocked in the frontcourt.  Like an unbalanced plan they’re struggling to stay aloft.  At 1-4 with losses to the Thunder and Kings that ground is getting mighty close.

It's always interesting to read non-Wolves fan perspectives on the squad.  Gomes is decidedly not one of the team's only decent shooters.  The Rhino isn't a journeyman and McCants is a complex enigma that doesn't translate well to quick bullet points.  Their problem hasn't been that they're unbalanced; rather, that their coaches and the front office want to have it multiple ways with their system and personnel.  One would think that a team with three 40+% 3 point shooters and 2 guys who can operate in the paint would be focused a bit more on a spread offense geared around high/low and inside/out.  However, Witt has them focused on slowing down the pace and making defensive stands.  Dave does have some very interesting things to say about the Blazers' keys to the game:

1.  If you either slow down Al Jefferson’s scoring or match him point for point you should be able to beat the ‘Wolves.

 

2.  This is one game where Portland should dominate on the boards.  If they rebound like they did against the Rockets on Thursday they will squash Minnesota flat.

 

3.  Deny the middle and make the Timberwolves score from the perimeter sidelines.

 

4.  Offensively the Blazers need to go hard into the heart of the Minnesota defense.  Post-up play is one way to do that but it allows the defense to get set.  Even better:  get past your initial defender and take the ball down deep.  You’re guaranteed to have an easy scoring attempt or a pass to someone else for an easy scoring attempt.

 

5.  Speaking of passes:  two decent ones in any possession and you’ll have whatever shot you like.


I'll again point to the ridiculous nature of the Wolves' approach so far this season.  With Mike Miller, Rashad McCants, Randy Foye, and Kevin Love, there is no way on God's green earth that opposing teams should be wanting to see the Wolves score from the perimeter sidelines.  Miller, McCants, and Foye are all outstanding spot up shooters, and Love is deadly from mid-range (his lower FG% comes mostly from a single bad shooting game in which he went 4-13 from the field; he's 15-24 outside of that).

The keys for the Wolves are simple:

  1. Sensible rotations: The Wolves have been burned all year by mind-bending rotations that continually put the team between a rock and a hard place.  Last night's 3rd quarter (and the 1st 2 minutes of the 4th) was as questionable of a period of substitution I have seen in a long time.   Players are getting yanked before they play 3 minutes at a time.  Ostensibly, this is because Witt wants to send a message to his players about defense.  Pragmatically, it's kneecapping the team's chances of winning.
  2. Free throw neutrality: The Wolves have made an effort to get to the line at a greater rate this year.  So far, they are making and attempting about 1.5 more free throws than their opponent. 
  3. Taking the open shot: Mike Miller and Randy Foye need to take their open shots.  Both players have repeatedly passed up open looks at the basket in the past 2 games.  Catch and shoot fellas, catch and shoot. 
  4. Team D: The Wolves do not have to be world beaters on the defensive end.  They simply need to play solid team d with heady rotations.  With players like Foye, Miller, and McCants on the perimeter, Jefferson needs to show that he can rotate into help when an opposing guard gets in the lane.  Love and Bassy seem to be the only players on the team to understand the concept of help defense. 
  5. More 3s: They are only attempting 15.4 per game.  This number needs to go up, up, up. 

Also, increased pace, more gambling perimeter defense, and some attempts at transition play are desperately needed by Our Beloved Puppies.  Here's hoping for the best tonight in Portland. 

Until later.

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Great post Stop

First off the Bassy things are interested. The casual fan may not realize this, but being related to Stephon Marbury hasn’t really help stifle the hype that surrounded Bassy while @ Lincoln High School in NYC. Yet, at the same time, Bassy has never been too close with Marbury, and while not seemingly angry, he’s not close to him either. That’s helped him as he’s reclaimed his career in Minny. The idea that Bassy is a reclamation project is a year too late. That was true a year ago, but this year he’s a consistent part of the rotation that I’m sure management, and Wittman both expect to produce. That’s not the definition of a reclamation project. It also makes, to a degree, the lessening of the need to fit Foye/McCants into roles they can’t simply do.

The other part about is Love. I"ve said I’d rather have JT than KL, but that’s not to say Love is a terrible player, or a player the Wolves shouldn’t be happy with, especially in counterpoint to OJ Mayo. In fact with Love around, the Wolves offense is far better because he can help dilute the lack of creating for others (foye/mccants) in the halfcourt with his passing and abilities to shoot mid range. He’s also a guy who plays hard and is working to become better. That’s always a player whom you want.

Overall it’s very clear that management and the coaching staff is so disjointed that even when a clear direction for a team is evident (as you point out in the post—shoot lot’s of 3’s spread floor, etc etc etc) all these things benefit a young team with lots of offensive options, and very few defensive 1 on 1 stoppers minus Corey Brewer. Thanks for enlightening me to the true sewage in the Minneapolis/Twin Cities area.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 8, 2008 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

I'd rather have JT than KL

Bwahahahahahahhahhahahhaha, that’s a good one…

by DR_JPK on Nov 8, 2008 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

lol @ that buzzer beater… especially the commentator saying “they’ll … review it” .. he says it the EXACT same way in NBA Live .. you’de think that was scripted on that video.. love it :)

by Wim (Belgium) on Nov 8, 2008 11:15 AM CST reply actions  

It was a crazy shot

I’m also going to predict something I’m calling the Love Effect. Jefferson went for basically 20/10 every night last year on a bad team. We all knew he was bad on defense but we kind of overlooked this sort of thing (and his passing, spacing, etc) for his top-3 low post offensive game. Now that Love is on the team, Jefferson’s faults will be put in stark relief, especially on defense when it becomes more clear that Love is the better defensive player by a long shot. Hopefully, this will push Big Al to become a better all-around player.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 8, 2008 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Would you be opposed to Jeff Bzdelik as Head Coach?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 8, 2008 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I have no idea...

…i haven’t given the matter much thought. The Wolves will hire someone to be in the country club if they aren’t already there.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 8, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Blazer fan:

Pritchard kept Outlaw over Miller, so I don’t think it’ll happen, especially with Webster getting his new contract.

To me, either Outlaw or Batum will be traded in the near future. I really like Batum’s game, but Outlaw has been commented as part of the “Big Four.”

Looking forward to the game Timberwolve fans. I’ve always enjoyed you team and the fanbase.

by dyshooter182 on Nov 8, 2008 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I forgot that Bzdelik was at Colorado anyway. He might not leave there for awhile until he builds that program up.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 8, 2008 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Blazer fan here

I was wondering If you guys could give your opinion after the game of Nicolas Batum and Travis Outlaw. There have been some major discussions over at Blazersedge on who should start and whether Batum is good enough to be our SF of the future. Many have called for Travis to be traded, given the fact that Batum has outplayed him in 3 of the 4 games.

I’m always looking for an outsiders perspective, thanks!

Woof

by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 8, 2008 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

To be honest...

…I had never seen Batum more than once or twice via some sopcast games before this year. He seems very athletic and very much in the Corey Brewer mold as being someone who can help with defense and rebounding before his offensive game catches up with him. I’ve seen 2 Blazers games this year and he hasn’t looked like he was in over his head so that is good, but beyond that…I have nothing.

I remember Outlaw not impressing me against the Wolves last year. Looking at his splits I see this wasn’t a mistake, as he averaged less than 20 minutes and 10 points against Minny. That being said, he has shown steady improvement and it looks like he’s the sort of guy that you can plug in for 12-13 points, 5-6 rebounds and an above average PER. With all the potential studs on that squad, I’m not so sure this isn’t a good thing for a SF. I’m not sure why anyone would give up on a guy this young with this much service time who has shown he can be a solid contributor.

Getting back to the potential stud thing, I know I’ve heard things about the Blazers wanting to move some young talent for some vets. Eventually, Portland will have to pay these guys and that is probably going to be problematic between Oden, Roy, LA, and whomever they trade for as it is. It seems like the GM out there has the ability to be both clever and too clever by 1/2. To an outsider, it seems obvious that they’re dangling Sergio as part of a package that could bring in a vet. I’m guessing someone like Outlaw or Webster could be another part of that package. If I were a GM and I saw that much young talent on a team, I’m not making a trade unless Fernandez is the key part.

From what I have seen of Outlaw vis-a-vis Batum, my fantasy GM take is that you keep the investment in Outlaw and sell Batum while he’s high along with one of the PGs and Fernandez for a stud vet. I think you can get the best return for your money with that package.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 8, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW...

…could the Wolves interest you in Mike Miller? :)

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 8, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Since League pass is botching my every try and now I even got screwed by the acb (Rubio was in street clothes) I’l have no other choice than to get up at 3:30 am today and watch the game live. See you guys then :)

You can count on my views on Batum and Outlaw.

by Wim (Belgium) on Nov 8, 2008 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

hehe

considering the crowds so far this year at the Target Centre (people leaving before the OT period in the SA game?) this dude’s the Timberwolves’ best fan! Somehow the fact that he lives 7 time zones away speaks volumes…

by plinytheelder on Nov 8, 2008 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Or maybe I’m just plain ol’ crazy :p. Sitting in bed with a nice warm blanket and your laptop dus have it’s charm ;)

by Wim (Belgium) on Nov 8, 2008 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Good for you Wim.

That’s a fan right there folks.

by plinytheelder on Nov 8, 2008 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I live in the same time zone as my team

But I prefer watching the game in bed drinking beer. Don’t have stupid fans telling you can’t boo your team because they do something you don’t like. (That happened to me @ Arco. Fucking stupid bitch.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 8, 2008 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

hmmm…don’t know if that makes her a “fucking stupid bitch”

by plinytheelder on Nov 8, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

IF I payed for the tickets (my dad did why I didn't say anything)

I would have cursed her out. And told her to go fuck herself. You don’t tell me how to behave when it’s my right to boo.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 8, 2008 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

boo

boo for sadism

or at least for petulance

by secretarykissinger on Nov 9, 2008 2:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed...

…and a quick reminder that while cussing is prevalent elsewhere, it is frowned upon here. We’re not against crudeness when clever, but swearing for the sake of swearing is not appreciated.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2008 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Here's what I want to see tonight

1. A consistent rotation with a short bench. Let’s start to get some roles defined — barring fouls/total defensive abdication, there really isn’t any reason we need to see any of Ollie/Madsen/Cardinal/Booth and maybe Collins (at least not until he can contribute). I’d like to see 95% of the minutes go to Telfair/Miller/Brewer/Love/AJ/Foye/McCants/Gomes, with very limited minutes to Smith and only if the matchups work. Let’s figure out which one of these guys can play and who they can play with, once and for all. No Carney, unless we decide we need Brewer or him on someone like Roy at all times. No offense to Carney, but he seems completely duplicative to Brewer, and you’re only going to keep one of them.

2. More ball movement and spacing — this seems to be getting better, but we can do more — getting Miller and AJ on the same side of the ball, getting Love to the high post, getting out in transition. The pace needs to be faster for this team to be successful, and if that means less AJ, so be it. This may not be the best strategy for facing the Blazers, who should thrive on that style given the athletes they have, but you need to start developing an identity, not trying to match other folks (Flip’s big downfall).

3. Some defensive intensity — i’d start with some good rotations and a bit more aggression. It’s great if you win the free throw battle only if your opponent isn’t shooting 55% or going for 55 and 10.

4. Let’s see some pride from the Wolves. Love is coming home, Foye is going against his trade partner, AJ is (hopefully) going to battle with LA for one of the best young PFs in the West (everyone’s chasing Amare). Those guys should want to show up tonight. Let’s see if they do.

by Sterno on Nov 8, 2008 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

by the way I just looked at the replay of Roy's buzzer-beater

Anyone else notice the defensive error? Whoever was guarding Roy (Artest? couldn’t make it out) screwed up: when Roy made his cut he initially just pointed at him rather than following him…as though the plan was to switch. Anyways not saying it wasn’t a great shot, but the defensive mistake meant he had a nice open look.

by plinytheelder on Nov 8, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply actions  

I see it was McGrady…I can’t for the life of me understand what he was thinking. Maybe the Rockets were supposed to switch? Doubt it.

by plinytheelder on Nov 9, 2008 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

  1. Sensible rotations: Seemed to be ok. Imo. Pretty coherent lineups.
  1. Team D: Seemed to be OK in the beginning. Later on we gave up too many offensive rebounds by lack of size, or at least that was my feeling. Complete collapse at the end though. Some shots that were contested went in but still.
  1. More 3s: Way too little 3points. Miller was money when he was open but it took until the end of the 4th before Miller was on the same side as Jefferson. Why?

All in all pretty nice game up until the middle of the 3rd. It seemed like we were “at the end of our lingo”. Like Witt wanted to pull another trick out of his hat but the hat was empty. Now that I’ve seen Mccants’ play with my own eyes I noticed my view shifting even during the game. Maybe we ought to declare both deathmatchers the losers and draft someone like Budingher (cuz he already got some years in college) to patch up that 2-guard spot.

I might be back for our next game ;)

by Wim (Belgium) on Nov 9, 2008 10:31 AM CST reply actions  

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