Quarter Pole Draft Board
by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 11, 2008 8:15 PM CST
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It's that time of year again: time to update the 2009 Draft Board. You can read our initial list here.
- Ricky Rubio- The 17 year old PG from Spain showed the world that he can play at a high level during the Olympics and he did it at both ends of the court. If Rubio enters the draft, it's hard to envision a scenario where he is not a lotto pick.
- Brandon Jennings- The 19 year old PG who skipped college for Italy will spend the next year playing professional ball, probably learning more about handling the business than his freshman peers. Jennings is a fantastic ball-handler who looks to pass first.
- Stephen Curry- I've made no bones about my belief that Curry is the best thing going in college ball this year. A stunningly efficient jump-shooter who is able to maintain an extreme ORtg while holding the ball a ton, Curry will be given PG duties during his junior year at Davidson. If he can maintain his Ortg/%Poss ratio while not turning the ball over and running an offense, Curry should be included in the conversation about who is the best lead guard in the draft.
- Nick Calathes- The sophomore guard from Florida isn't the most athletic player and he's not a great finisher around the rim, but he has the size and skills to be the type of player that can play multiple positions off the bench while even taking some time at the point.
- Chase Budinger- For the life of me, I'll never understand why Mr. Budinger did not enter the draft last year. He has the size, athleticism, and outside stroke to be a fantastic wing player in the NBA. He needs to work on his aggressiveness but the tools are there.
Let's give it a go once again:
- James Harden
- Stephen Curry
- Danny Green
- Tyreke Evans
- Nick Calathes
The next 5: Blake Griffin, Chase Budinger, Hasheem Thabeet, Patrick Mills, and Cole Aldrich.
Dark horses: Earl Clark and Tyler Hansborough.
As you may have noticed I removed Ricky Rubio and Brandon Jennings from the list. At this point in the season college ball is well underway and I simply do not have the access or know-how of putting together realistic takes on European players compared to their university counterparts.
As things stand right now with Our Beloved Puppies Zombies, their most glaring needs are still out on the perimeter. As much as there has been a constant push to surround Big Al with a shot blocking, defensive-minded center, this team still finds its greatest weaknesses at the 1 and 3:
Minnesota Timberwolves
| PG | 29 | 27 | 28 | 11 | 14 | 28 | 10.8 | 19.1 | 30 |
| SG | 13 | 25 | 4 | 16 | 16 | 23 | 15.3 | 16.3 | 13 |
| SF | 30 | 28 | 19 | 16 | 14 | 28 | 11.4 | 17.7 | 29 |
| PF | 10 | 26 | 10 | 5 | 27 | 14 | 16.7 | 17.4 | 17 |
| C | 6 | 21 | 17 | 18 | 9 | 8 | 20.5 | 18.1 | 9 |
Despite what many fans would like to see, I just can't see a scenario where Randy Foye isn't a part of this team's future. This would seem to suggest that the team's greatest need is either a true point or a fellow combo guard that could share some of the ball handling responsibilities. If you look at the internals on points and free throw attempts, I think it is fairly obvious that this team needs an upgrade in the backcourt and at the 3.
Unfortunately for the Wolves, this draft isn't exactly shaping up to be a 3-filled affair, with Earl Clark and Chase Budinger being the only SF candidates at the moment worthy of a lottery pick.
The draft is even thinner at the center position, with Hasheem Thabeet being the only legit 5 prospect in the lottery at the moment.
Of course, not all is bad with this draft. While it is fairly thin at these positions (and in general), it does offer the Wolves some intriguing guard prospects: Harden, Curry, Calathes, Evans, Green, Ricky Rubio, Brandon Jennings, Jrue Holiday, Demar Derozan, Ty Lawson, and Patty Mills.
Getting around to our top five picks, here is a statistical comparison of the players in question. Right now I think the Wolves' top pick option is a two man race between Curry and Harden. Both players offer the Wolves an interesting compliment to Foye. Right now I'm giving the nod to Harden. He does a number of things that place him above Curry at the moment.
First, his size is something the Wovles need. 6'5" and 218 is automatically preferable to Curry's 6 nothing/180. Harden is also every bit the scorer as is Curry, averaging slightly more than the Davidson star in per 40 pace adjusted points. Harden doesn't carry nearly the load as does Curry, but he gets to the line at a much greater pace while relying far less on the short college three than the son of Del.
Curry is no slouch. He is taking to his time at the point by posting an extremely solid 4.55 ppr as well as a remarkably low turnover rate for the amount of time he has his hands on the rock. He takes an awful lot of 3s and he doesn't get to the line as much as you would like to see, but he still boasts one of the best jump shot games in recent college memory.
Moving down the list, I would like to start pointing our readers in the direction of Danny Green. Mr. Green is playing on a fantastically talented team and he doesn't have the huge net numbers of Curry or Harden, but if you break down his internals, he is doing some things that are deserving of our attention. First of all, he has great size and athleticism. He would immediately give the Wolves an athlete that could fill the 2/3. He doesn't get a ton of looks on a talent-laden team, but he does the most with his possessions when given the chance. Green has the 3rd best PER and EFF/40 amongst our top 5. He scores the most points per play as well as carrying a solid 2.78 a/to and 3.81 ppr. If you break it down to possession, he is scoring 1.42 pts/poss. That's very, very good. He is an active defender who is also able to hold his own on the glass. His big downfall is that he simply isn't getting to the line. This is a concern. Granted, on a team like UNC, there aren't exactly a ton of shots to go around across the board, but you'd still like to see more than 0.6 FTA/game.
Evans and Calathes are sort of a push at the moment. I'm expecting Evans to come on late in the year as he adjusts to Memphis' offense but right now they are putting together the beginnings of two very nice years.
As for the rest, I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about guys like Thabeet and Clark. I think Clark has the sort of rounded game potential that would work out well at the 3. Thabeet is...well, I don't think I'll ever get over my uneasiness with him. That being said, Hoopus is lucky to have SB Nation's leading Thabeet drum beater Wim in its readership and he is forcing me to give Thabeet 2nd, 3rd, and 4th looks.
That about does it for now. What say you? Who did we miss? Who should move up or down?
PS: I ignored the Blake Griffin question. Right now, he's the clear #1 pick. If the Wolves magically win the lotto and he has continued his production throughout the year, I think the team would seriously need to consider trading Love or Jefferson. I think you try to move Big Al if such a situation came to pass. My list is tailored to the Wolves' draft needs as well as an assumption that they won't draft #1.
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I don't think Curry is a good idea
Yeah, he is an excellent shooter and yeah he can share the point with Foye, but he will be a defensive liability that the wolves can’t afford. Love will never be an elite defender thanks to mediocre athleticism, and for whatever reason Jefferson is not a particularly solid defender either. Curry would give up a lot of points on D.
I don’t particularly like Tyreke Evans either, I’d rather have the wolves go for someone who can play right away, and Evans needs a lot of work. I guess the only player I 100% agree with on your list is James Harden. That guy is ridiculously smooth and has an awesome skill set and a wide body to go along with some seriously deceptive athleticism. My (lottery) picks right now for the wolves would be:
1. James Harden
2. Hasheem Thabeet
3. Damion James
by Laughing Stock on Dec 11, 2008 11:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I sort of like Earl Clark. He has awesome size for a SF. Decent shooter and passer. Not the most aggressive player, though. I can’t say he’s my favorite. I think Tennessee’s Tyler Smith pretty much offers the same skillset, but with slashing ability to boot. And Smith is projected in the 20s. My personal favorite wing prospect at this point might be Aminu (if he declares), who isn’t getting a ton of pub. His perimeter game is very raw, but I like him as a potential Gerald Wallace type. Selfishly, I’d love it if he declared what most would call a year too early. He could maybe slip to where the Wolves could potentially snap him up with the Heat pick (if they get it), and land a legit potential guy who would have gotten drafted much higher the following year (like Thad Young and the Sixers). Although there’s a danger Aminu is destined to be a 4 in an uptempo smallball system.
Something about Thabeet bothers me, and I can’t put my finger on it. I’m typically skeptical when big guys with outstanding size/athleticism packages struggle to impact the game intially (I’m skeptical of “late bloomers” in general; not that they don’t happen, but I think they’re rare compared to players who are labeled as such who just turn out to be flops). He is having a good year, though. I don’t want them to draft him with their first pick, but would be fine with him being the second Wolves acquisition of the night.
I think Curry’s NBA success will depend on which team he ends up on, and I don’t think the Wolves (assuming Foye’s starting in the backcourt) are a good team for him. Match him up with a big athletic second ballhandler (a Ronnie Brewer type) and I’d love it. But the Wolves don’t have that.
It’s hard to argue with what Harden’s doing right now. Ideally the Wolves would fill up the perimeter with a bunch of athletic marvels to surround Jefferson and Love down low (cut down on that penetration), and Harden doesn’t quite fit that mold. But the guy’s flat out dominating right now, and was nearly as impressive during his freshman year. If this is indeed fated to be a repeat of the 06 Draft, maybe he’s this class’s Brandon Roy (who was not considered a fantastic athlete during that draft, either). And of course I’d agree with Laughing Stock’s “deceptive athleticism.” You just don’t do what Harden’s doing if you’re a slug.
I really WANT Evans to be the guard the Wolves need, a 6’5" dervish who can handle the ball. But he’s off to a slightly disappointing start. Although it’s definately worth noting Derrick Rose didn’t start out great last year, either, so maybe we just need to wait for the learning curve to play out. (Not to compare him to Rose, just the Memphis offense is perhaps a bit tough on freshman initially.) We’ll see.
I won’t give a big board just yet. Early on, though, I think I could get excited with a Harden/Aminu (or Tyler Smith) haul. If they land Blake Griffen, maybe it’d be time to break out the demolition crew and raze the whole thing.
by jianfu on Dec 12, 2008 12:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Merde!
Seeing that picture I remember I forgot the program the VCR (dvd recorder is broken).
I’ll also reup my efforts of trying to see some Rubio and Jennings. First time I tried to see Rubio he was in street clothes, couldn’t really understand what the reason was.
If anyone notices online games of either DKV Joventut or Lottomotica but can’t watch because of the time zone, give me a nudge at my e-mail (it’s at my profile).
Gonna read the rest of the post when work is finished!
Beater of the early Thabeet drum
by Wim (Belgium) on Dec 12, 2008 2:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
As Thabeet scares others, Curry scares me just as much. I haven’t really seen him a lot last year (and forgot to tape his game yesterday) but the thing that scares me most is on defense. If he plays point with Foye, our perimeter would look very thin.
On the other hand, Rubio looks even worse.
So I’d rather either have either a true point (Rubio/Jennings) to team with Brewer/Miller at SG and then Foye + Brewer/Miller as double 6th men. (Mccants/Telfair out, as much as I like Telfair) … OR a combo that has the tools to defend shootings guards so Foye can take the PG. Which brings me to Harden.
Not sure Harden is the guy. He looks strong enough, size is a bit small but .. well I can live with that. But is his ball handling worth anything? I don’t find any real mention of it on draft sites. He’s “crafty” but … his ass/to rate isn’t really looking “ball-handler”-like.
Guess I’ll have to check him out asap but from what I’m reading he’s a smallish SG, not a combo.
Calathes looks more like a guy that could be paired with Foye. He every bit as thin as Curry but I think he’s got better defense. Also, he can be picked up a lot easier than Rubio/Jennings/Harden (which frees up space to pick up thatbeet with our first pick, nahah, just kidding). He looks undervalued at this point.
Tyreke Evans is Mccants 2.0 to me, yuk!
Earl Clark looks like a sleeper. I’ll definitly try to watch him (got the mississippi game next friday). Getting him would involve sliding Brewer over to the 2 fulltime, paired with Miller it would involve getting rid of Mccants. Switching a selfish scorer that keeps the ball in his hands with a point forward. That sounds very, very interesting, he should move up next time especially if he can be picked up with our 2nd pick.
Al-Farouq looks a little similar but not as good, I like Clark a lot better (from what I’m reading, not what I’m seeing).
Chase Budingher is a true SG if you ask me, I’m not so sold on Griffin either, don’t think he has that much more chance to be “special” than the others guys in the top 10. I’d trade him for Rubio and cash. These two are bpa only picks. I’d hate it if we end up having to pick either of them, I would have to pray (and since I’m an atheist I don’t like praying) for a trade when that happens on draft night (not that Budingher wouldn’t be an upgrade over Mccants … just not enough of an upgrade to waste a high draft p on).
Green and Smith: I don’t get why we would draft one of these guys. I don’t think they’ll be an upgrade over Carney, nevermind Gomes/Brewer. We should be done picking by the time it’s their turn. Waste both 2nd round picks on “potential” in Europe. So below why I think we should be done by the time these guys are still on the board.
And I know Tyler Hansborough is just a joke aimed at McHale picking duplicate players.
Oh yea, Jennings. I like with I’ve read. Who knows he drops to our 2nd pick after we’ve picked thabeet with our first, (with the euro play and all). As said, I’ll try to see him and will try to keep an out for some Hollinger Euro<>NCAA numbers. Think we shouldn’t forget about him.
So on scenarios:
I don’t want any other center than Thabeet (why else did we draft Pekovic? Don’t think there’s anyone but Thabeet that has a real shot at being really better) So
Either we pick Thabeet high and use 2 more picks to get a 1 and 3, preferably Earl Clark And Jennings (Mccants+one of the later picks, given we get all 4 to trade up) or if we can’t trade up: Calathes.
If we don’t pick Thabeet, I wouldn’t pick any other center so I’d go with Rubio/Curry/Jennings and then draft Earl Clark with the other pick (in case Thabeet isn’t there anymore, I’d take Thabeet over Clark).
2nd round picks: internationals with potential
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by Wim (Belgium) on Dec 12, 2008 5:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of atheism...
…you should check out this site if you haven’t already:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/
It’s more political than atheist, but he’s Minnesota’s most notable atheist and he typically has some good links.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 13, 2008 7:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone seen Demar DeRozan play? He’s supposed to be a very big, very athletic two guard—the type of guy that Wolves could REALLY use. But, he’s slipped on some mocks, and I see that his stats are unimpressive, thus far. Just curious if anyone has caught a USC game and made any observations on his game.
I don’t like Curry for the Wolves, at least with our first pick. Too small to pair with Foye. He’d be a better fit next to LeBron, in D’Antoni’s system in New York.
Agreed with SnP on Griffin—I think he’s the consensus #1. He’s huge, he can fly, and he seems to have good skills. Not much else to think about.
by Andy G on Dec 12, 2008 8:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
At this point DeRozan has no idea
what to do without the ball in his hands or even what the game of basketball is now that it doesn’t include throwing down an infinite amount of dunks on overmatched highschoolers. Amazing potential though.
by roundhouse on Dec 12, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Harden is the guy I like
a perimeter guy who can score is manifestly useful to the Wolves. (Green would be tremendous later in the first round if he’s available—that NC team is loaded and he’s still having a major impact).
Curry makes me nervous; I just don’t see how he becomes a guy who plays 35 minutes a night in the NBA, which is what you want with your first pick, given how high it will be. I’ve seen him a few times now this year; he just isn’t strong enough with the ball to be a point in the NBA, and he’s way too small to get full time run at the 2. It’s going to be tough for him defensively as well. Ultimately, he’s a specialist. He can help a team, but it isn’t as a full time guy. .
It would really be nice if Rubio emerged as the obvious pick for the Wolves, and becomes the orchestrator that this squad desperately needs.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 12, 2008 9:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Curry doesn't scare me
I haven’t seen all the other players and I recognize that Curry might be a liability on Defense, but I don’t see how he wouldn’t put a scare into other teams defenses. There is little doubt that he can score and he would really be a fun player to watch in a WOlves uniform. I like Harden as you describe him though, too.
At the very least, even if the Wolves don’t trade and move up, it sounds like they should be able to get a pretty decent guard or even two to put alongside Foye next year.
by Andy B on Dec 12, 2008 9:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Griffin Deals...
In the spirit of getting way ahead of ourselves…I want to chime in on what the T-wolves should do if they get the 1st pick and Griffin is seen as a lock.
How bout this for a deal:
Wolves trade to Oklahoma…
- 1st pick of the draft: Used to take Griffin
- Another 2009 1st Rounder: Utah or Miami ?
Wolves get from Oklahoma
- Thunder’s first rounder: Probably top 4 pick. Wolves use pick to take Harden
- Russell Westbrook
Thunder get the hometown boy and their post player of the future to team with Durant. Wolves completely remake their perimeter with two solid players and potential stars.
Wolves 2009 Opening Day starting line up…
PG: Westbrook
SG: Harden
SF: Miller
PF: Love
C: Jefferson
6th: Foye
7th Gomes
8th: Brewer
9th: The recently signed Rasho!
by Blakeley on Dec 12, 2008 10:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is about the 3rd...
trade I’ve seen between here and twolvesblg that has the Thunder giving up WAY too much for Blake Griffin. The TWB has them giving the Wolves Kevin Durant of all guys.
by Pants_ on Dec 12, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
…the Wolves have a better shot at landing Lebron than OKC giving up on either KD or Westbrook for anything the Wolves have to offer. I think the only answer they’d get back is “How do you feel about Jeff Green?” Plus, they’re most likely a top 3 pick and that means they’re likely looking at Rubio or Harden as the other pick. The Wolves would be in zero position to bargain for such high returns.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 12, 2008 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PS:
There’s also the other side of the coin: should they want either KD or Westbrook. On that point alone I’d run away from any OKC deal involving either of them.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 12, 2008 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're probably right...
which is why I’d consider throwing Foye into that deal. Foye/Griffin for Westbrook/Harden is probably an even deal, or it might slightly favor OKC. But obviously we couldn’t use Griffin, and if we turned him and Foye into a new “backcourt of the future,” I think it’d help our long-term strategic goals (if we have any).
by Shogun on Dec 12, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If they luck...
…into the 1st pick and Griffin has continued his pace throughout the year, I think you get on the phone and see what Big Al is really worth in the eyes of opposing GMs. It’s quite a ways out to know who would be positioned in the lottery to give a pick + a player back but I think you take Griffin and then get the most you can for Jefferson. Jefferson is a nice player and a great scorer but I just don’t think you can not take the BPA at #1 no matter what you have. Of course, a lot of this depends on Rubio and what he decides to do…as well as the unimaginable luck it would take for the Wolves to have a lottery go their way.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 12, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surpised...
To be honest I think Blake Griffin’s value is being understated. A consensus number one pick any year always has an inflated value, but this would be especially true if that player had the chance to play in his hometown of Oklahoma City. The people down there are different, they aren’t bandwagon fans like most Minnesotans. They are INCREDIBLY loyal to their own, and Griffin would probably be more popular in OK then even Durant.
Think about what the Wolves would have had to give up to get Chicago’s number 1 pick this year. We would have probably had to give up our 1st pick and Big Al just for Rose and Larry Hughes, and even then I’m skeptical. You can’t tell me that OK wouldn’t consider that deal.
Shogun: I wonder what would be more valuable…Foye or a 1st round pick between 11 and 16.
by Blakeley on Dec 12, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They aren't bandwagon...
…because they’re diehard college football fans with a tip-top program in Norman. This is their first experiment with a pro franchise and I suspect they’ll end up supporting it a’la bandwagon just like every other team that goes bad in a hurry. Maybe if Bob Stoops and Adrian Peterson joined the Thunder they’d have a guaranteed fan base, but I wouldn’t be so quick to transfer Sooner loyalty (and Cowboy up near Stillwater and Enid) to the NBA. I don’t deny that OKC would love to have Griffin but I think their #1 + Westbrook or Durant is giving away the farm and their GM is smart enough to know better.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 12, 2008 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sold...
… that Griffin will be significantly better than Jefferson. I expect Griffin to be a 20-10 guy, sort of like Carlos Boozer or a slightly better Elton Brand (in his prime years), but I don’t think he does much that Jefferson doesn’t (i.e., defense, though I could be wrong about this). I agree with Blakely’s point before that Griffin’s value will probably be inflated, and unless you can get a haul for Big Al, you trade Griffin for better value. At least that’s my initial reaction. Multiple variables could change my stance, though. We’ll know a lot more in the next five months.
by Shogun on Dec 12, 2008 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously Stern will give his boyfriend Clay Bennett
the top pick to take hometown boy Griffin. Seeing as how the Thunder will most likely have the worst record, it won’t even look as suspicious as most years!
by roundhouse on Dec 12, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blakely...
I’d do that deal in a second. I love Restbrook and would not be averse to Harden given our needs and the reports the uniformly sing his praise. However, I don’t know whether the OKC would do that deal unless we shipped something back. It wouldn’t surprise me if we had to give up Foye + the right to draft Griffin for Westbrook and the right to draft Harden. I’d still consider doing the latter deal as long as we feel confident that Harden will be a special perimeter player.
I don’t want anything to do with Curry. To me, he looks like JJ Redick 2.0. As someone said, he could excel in the right situation (as could JJ, probably) such as NY, Cleveland, or maybe GS (if they didn’t already have a horde of able scoring guards), but I couldn’t see it working out here.
by Shogun on Dec 12, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Harden question...
Does anyone think that Harden’s supposed lack of athleticism (or as someone else pointed out, “good-but-not great” athleticism) is a problem? I haven’t seen him enough to know anything except that I’m intrigued. However, as much as I like the idea of having a guy who is smooth and can fill it up like Harden has in college, I really want the Wolves to get a super-athlete type, someone like Demar DeRozen, who can help reverse the fact that we’re the most unathletic team in the NBA. I’m not saying DeRozen is necessarily “the guy” we need, just someone with above-average athleticism. Then again, if Harden’s skills are that great, it probably doesn’t matter. Just look at how well Brandon Roy (and OJ Mayo, so far) has done with relatively mediocre athleticism.
by Shogun on Dec 12, 2008 1:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like Harden enough to
make him our top pick. Then with the next pick in round 1 we could have the option of getting someone in the DeRozen athlete mode. If that player was a small forward and we put Harden at the 2, then I would jump for joy. Not sure if Harden would be able to share point guard/combo guard duties though. We’ll see…..
by wolfen on Dec 12, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It sounds like Harden is a pure two...
…isn’t he? I’d still like to snag Rubio/Jennings with our first pick and then hope that a DeRozen-type slides to our second pick (or that we could swing a trade to move up and get DeRozen or Evans, who I also like). That’d only leave us with the C position to fill (if we assume Brewer can be a long-term starter at the three).
by Shogun on Dec 12, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just an FYI on Derozan and Harden....
For people thinking about Derozan right now, I would pass on him if he came out this year unless he shows marked improvement in conference play. From watching him on TV and in person, he is just not completely comfortable with the higher speed of the college game yet (compared to high school anyways). If you pick him you could end up with a bust just as easily as you could end up with a star. At this point Demar should stay one more year.
Right now Harden plays as an SF for ASU, so I would not go so far as to call him a pure 2. People say that he lacks athleticism, but I think it is just the way that he is built that throws people off. A couple of nice bonuses with him is the fact that he is equally comfortable going left or right and has a wide body which will allow him to be a solid rebounder for his size. Some have compared him to Ginobli, and while his game isn’t quite as funny looking, the comparison isn’t completely off the mark in my opinion.
by Laughing Stock on Dec 12, 2008 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good points everyone. ...
…thanks for all the input.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 12, 2008 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hold the Curry on my Draft Sandwich
Extra Rubio, Harden, and Thabeet please
by roundhouse on Dec 12, 2008 4:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone seen Mullens?
I know he hasn’t put up gaudy stats (yet), but he’s got huge upside (like DeRozen in both respects). I’d be happy if his value dropped and we could snag him in the lower lottery.
by Shogun on Dec 12, 2008 6:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
….he’s clueless at this point. Beyond raw.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 12, 2008 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is he a better prospect than Thabeet?
For some reason, I think Thabeet has role player written all over him. I have doubts that he’ll be better than Joel P., which is fine, but not with your top eight pick.
by Shogun on Dec 12, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, why isn’t Jrue Holiday mentioned? He seems everybit the combo Harden is?
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by Wim (Belgium) on Dec 17, 2008 4:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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