Game Thread: Hoping for Magic
by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 5:00 PM CST
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Minnesota Timberwolves at Orlando Magic, Dec 3, 2008 6:00 PM CST
It's Magic time for Our Beloved Puppies Zombies. Will they be able to take advantage of a depleted Orlando backcourt? Will they provide Magic fans with three tasty meals? Will Randy Wittman get his players to play to his much talked about game plan? Will we see the much ballyhooed lineup of Sebastian Telfair, Kevin Ollie, Mike Miller, Brian Cardinal, and Mark Madsen? Will Kevin McHale still be toting along with the squad on yet another road game? Will Al Jefferson see yet another defense geared to stop him and no one else?
The answers to these questions and many more tonight at 6PM CST.
Here's hoping for a win some magic.
Be sure to check out Third Quarter Collapse for all your Magic needs. Ben Q. Rock is one of the best.
PS: For a good quick read, check out this excellent take on Corey Brewer's injury from the City Page's Benjamin Polk. Brewer was one of the really fun players to watch on this squad and he will be missed.
1st quarter update:
- Everyone on the Wolves is in the negative.
- Only 2 3 point shots.
- even turnovers
- poor, poor shooting (33%)
- Courtney Lee and Battie played good minutes off the bench for the Magic
2nd quarter update:
- Wolves are annihilating the Magic on the glass (12-18) to (0-15).
- The Wolves only have 8 points to show for their 12 offensive rebounds.
- Wolves are getting annihilated at the line (9-12) to (4-6)
- The Wolves are shooting 34% from the field. Foye and Jefferson have accounted for 15 of the team's 32 misses.
- Bassy, Jefferson, Booth (!) and Love are the only players with net positives.
- The Wolves have taken 17 more shots than the Magic and they are down by 6. Let me repeat that: they have taken 17 more shots than the Magic and they are down by 6. One more time: they have taken 17 more shots than the Magic and they are down by 6.
3rd quarter update:
- This is getting fugly.
- Witt forgot he had a bench
- Miller rolled his ankle
- The Wolves had 0 offensive rebounds in the quarter
- The Magic have made more FTs than the Wolves have attempted
- The Wolves are shooting 33% from the field
- Why is Craig Smith on the court?
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Notes on a Reshuffled Lineup courtesy of the Star Trib
Randy Wittman is playing a bit of musical chairs for tonight’s game against Dwight Howard and Orlando. When the music stops, 35-year-old vet Kevin Ollie will be your starting point guard and everybody else gets shuffled down a stop, which means center Jason Collins is the last man out.
Ollie starts at point — insert your own comment here about what that means for that position and the Wolves’ future (other than maybe Spanish teenage whiz Ricky Rubio) — and Randy Foye starts at shooting guard, Mike Miller moves to small forward, Ryan Gomes move to power forward and Al Jefferson slides over to center to take Howard.
That gets Ollie, who Wittman became enamored with in Monday’s loss at Charlotte, on the floor from the start, allows Gomes to cover Rashard Lewis, who isn’t a power forward really but plays one on TV, so Jefferson isn’t left out on the perimeter chasing Lewis.
Collins started the last eight games at center until tonight.
Kevin Ollie starting at point? Let the discussion begin!
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 5:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow
this is strange.
I really, really like Ollie’s game. But this smacks of panic. There just has to be some kind of disciplinary measure going on here. Or maybe not…I’m just going on Wittman’s comments about not executing the game plan the other night.
I really do not understand Gomes at the 4. I thought that was finished 10 games ago. Watching him at the 3 was a pleasure.
Guess I have to give Wittman the benefit of the doubt here. Maybe there’s some matchup thing he’s trying to exploit…don’t they start Lewis at the 4? Gomes kind of makes sense then. Or am I totally wrong, do they start someone else? Anyways at least Ollie will set a “toughness” tone. This will be…um…interesting.
Thanks Tony.
by plinytheelder on Dec 3, 2008 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wittman was considering this lineup to start:
would be…
Ollie
Carney
Cardinal
Madsen
Collins
Go Wolves!
by DR_JPK on Dec 3, 2008 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dear God
IF he started that Lineup and didnt Get Fired….Stop N Pop would Stop doing the Blog.
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know that lineup is coming at some point
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh by the way
I can’t watch tonight’s game but I’ll be taping it, so if you all could refrain from discussing it until, say, tomorrow around 10pm that would be great ;)
by plinytheelder on Dec 3, 2008 5:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what i did....
…i edited the game thread and this is what popped up
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I dont think he did
Sorry Pliny but its 13-12 Wolves with about 5 minutes left in the 1st
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You know...
…this game marks the end of the Foye-at-point era.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Hope To God it does
I Would much rather have Kevin Ollie Playing Point.
Somebody slap me…did i just say that?
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know...
…it doesn’t say a lot for the team
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we Start the Ricky Rubio Love Fest Yet?
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's going to reach a fever pitch if they keep losing...
….with Ollie starting at point.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Love...
….just has an amazing nose for the ball. A McHale sighting on the Magic TV broadcast.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oooo...Hes on the Trip eh?
Wittman is on thin ice.
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Al camps out in the lane
…how that wasn’t 3 seconds I don’t know.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
End of the first
down by 6………..better than I expected.
by bheidge on Dec 3, 2008 6:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Beautiful play...
…but no finish with Bassy and Love.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
K-Love...
…needs to take that up strong.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Free Agent Point Guards This Off-Season...
If we Dont Go in the draft and get Rubio.Curry etc.
Who do we get and Why?
Jason Kidd, Allen Iverson, Bobby Jackson, Brevin Knight, Tyronn Lue, And Raymond Felton.
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Felton...
…with an MLE. He’s the youngest. I think they’ll address the position in the draft however.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't care for Felton.
The FG% is a huge turn-off.
by wyn on Dec 3, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true...
…here’s hoping they solve it in the draft….although I still really like Bassy.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Love eats babies on the offensive glass.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing how many balls...
….he keeps alive on the offensive glass.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Run, run, run, run, run!!!
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What would the record be
with Mike D’Antoni coaching?
by bheidge on Dec 3, 2008 6:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think...
…he’d have 2 more wins, but it would be a blast to watch. I’m more of a fan of fun basketball. Winning is simply a plus.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Zone d
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
NBA Draft.net's Mock Draft has us
Taking Shooting Guard Demar Derozan of USC @ #6..Stephen Curry @ 12, Tyler Hansbrough @ 22 and Something Called Josh Heytvelt, a Power Forward out of Gonzaga @ 29
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If you could lock that in right now...
…I’d take it.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Could see us Trading 22 and 29
for a Legit NBA Center and Taking Curry @ 6 and Hansbrough @ 12.
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cole Aldrich...
…you know there will be a local push for him if he declares.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna start-up the Brandon Jennings bandwagon.
by wyn on Dec 3, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love...
…to see a Euro coach for the Wolves.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If his name is Ricky...yes
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
…Jennings said some fantastic things there. I really enjoyed watching him at the McDonald’s All Star game last year.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of old...
…Mike Miller highlights on the Magic broadcast.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bassy...
…is answering the bell tonight.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In other News
The Judge has Issued Kevin and Pat Williams a Temporary Restraining Order against the NFL according to KMSP tv.
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Strib has more here:
$20 it gets moved to federal court tomorrow morning.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Agree
It will….I Do hope the Williamses Win this…They were Wrongfully suspended
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a lawyer friend...
…who specializes in employment law and he thinks they’re cooked. Something to do with the NFLPA’s agreement with the league. He says that’s what will drive any decision made in this case. That’s all I know. I tried to change the subject as quickly as possible as I know very little about football. I know they’re all huge and they run into each other.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oops...
…he says the NFLPA’s agreement is clear cut…that’s why they’re cooked.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord Shaddy...
…the talent is so there.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Duck Fuke.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lewis is problematic for the Wolves
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Reddick v McCants...
…showing some UNC pride. Again: Duck Fuke.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Agree with ya 110%
I hate Duke with a Passion
by Tony_O on Dec 3, 2008 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOgC2Qbqh4
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NSFW...btw
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is my favorite college dunk of all time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkWr4OYL3-4
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller down
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ankle
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
McHale shown praying on the sideline...
…there goes the trade. You could almost see the thought bubble above his head. Here’s hoping it’s not serious.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did his head turn into a donkey, or a sucker?
Either one fits..
Look here junior, don't you be so happy.
And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad.
by E-6 on Dec 3, 2008 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are they slowing this down?
Good lord, if you’re shooting 34% you don’t want to limit your number of shots.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Where are Love and Bassy?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OK...
…Orlando has figured out the collapsing double team.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Love and Bassy are out of the game and Ollie and McCants are at the 1 and 3. Lewis, Hedo, and Howard are in there.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Magic announcers...
…said it was because he didn’t get a TO on the deadball before Al got his 4th.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you;d rather watch league pass than hanny & pete? ;)
by wyn on Dec 3, 2008 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
…I don’t think I could take the talking points about the new lineup.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're also missing promos for king of queens
by wyn on Dec 3, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you know...
…that the wife on that show is like the Queen Bee of Scientology?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
She's been stuck...
…on Will Smith’s wife to get Will and Jada to convert to the cult. I read that in the checkout line at Cub the other day. ;)
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was disappointed to see that Beck was a scientologist.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've ruined a lot of people's nights telling them that one.
by wyn on Dec 3, 2008 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm blaming his post-Midnite Vultures run on the cult
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was never...
…able to get into that album. I think it was the voice he used.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Better him than Berman. Or Malkmus.
Look here junior, don't you be so happy.
And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad.
by E-6 on Dec 3, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding.
That would ruin my entire musical upbringing.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Miller is running in the hallway...
…according to Magic announcers.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think Witt...
…has forgotten he has a bench.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think Witt...
…has forgotten that you can breath through your nose.
Look here junior, don't you be so happy.
And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad.
by E-6 on Dec 3, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is a mouth breather
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wolves keeping with the 3rd quarter theme
This is a brutal quarter.
by RedCandyStripedPants on Dec 3, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
“they look like a team that wants to get its points at the offensive end and put in a little effort on the defensive end.”
- Magic announcer on the Wolves
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He might be overestimating the effort, "a little" > none
by RedCandyStripedPants on Dec 3, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He definitely made it sound like nothing...
…my translation didn’t give the whole negative meaning.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait...what?
Who is going to guard Howard, Love or Smith?
by RedCandyStripedPants on Dec 3, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think Howard...
…is going to eat Smith. The Magic announcers are making fun of the Rhino’s hops.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They've also correctly...
…identified his worth over Smith in almost zero time at all. “Love is a pick and pop guy. No doubt.” I love how their announcers know more about the Wolves than the Wolves’ coaching staff.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller back in the game...
….great to see.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes it is
Even though he’s still hobbled.
Also great to see Love drain a couple long jumpers in back-to-back possessions.
by RedCandyStripedPants on Dec 3, 2008 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Woofs stuck at 50 after 3.
Cardinal checks in to start the 4th.
And with that, I bid you good night….
Look here junior, don't you be so happy.
And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad.
by E-6 on Dec 3, 2008 7:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How many more times do we have to watch...
…the same frickin’ play that has been giving them an open 3 all night long? I think they are well aware that Foye and McCants are doubling from the opposite wing and that their man is left wide open. Holy balls people.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
3rd Quarter
How in the heck can Wittman justify sending in Collins for Jefferson when we can’t score. It’s infuriating to watch.
by Blakeley on Dec 3, 2008 8:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Indeed...
…he’s going to be the best 2 way player on the team by the end of the year. He and Gomes are the only real 2 way players the Wolves have.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, he's the only Wolf I look forward to watching.
He plays hard and smart every single second. Not something that can be said for the majority of our team.
Don’t get me wrong, I like our other players, but Love is so fun to watch.
by wyn on Dec 3, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One if not both of these things are going to happen before next game...
1. Love will be inserted into the starting lineup
2. Wittman will be fired
by Blakeley on Dec 3, 2008 8:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Love better be starting...
…and they better commit 28-30 minutes to him a night.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Love
24 minutes…
16 points and 12 rebs (8 offensive)
That’s crazy
by Blakeley on Dec 3, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But remember....
…Collins is the starter. It’s nuts. Well that does it gents. See y’all later.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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