GameThread: @ Dallas
by wyn on Dec 30, 2008 7:00 PM CST
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Tonight our beloved Timberwolves take on Mark Cuban and his Mavericks. Game notes to prep:
- Dirk Nowitzki was suspended for the last game for getting incited into elbowing Matt Harpring in the face. He'll be playing tonight.
- Unfortunately for the Wolves, Josh Howard, Jason Kidd and Jason Terryare all scheduled to play.
- The Mavs don't have a great post-presence on offense, so Big Al shouldn't get tired out on D. Between DeSagana Diop and Erick Dampier, however, Al will have plenty of bruisers to deal with on offense. They seemed to give him enough trouble in their first matchup this season, as Al got 14 points on 5-15 shooting.
- Mike Miller is supposedly a game time decision. But, something gives me a sneaking suspicion that he won't be playing at all.
- Randy Foye over the last 5 games: 19.2ppg, 2.6apg, 6.6rpg, on 49% shooting. Not All-Star numbers, and the rebounds are up because of a 16 board game, but 4th Quarter Foyebles is quietly putting together a very strong December.
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These Pete/Souhan debates are so weird.
And obnoxious. Pete is so insecure and smug looking.
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Am I being left alone as a punishment for not being around for GameThreads lately?
Lesson learned.
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Oh Sarah...
…where have you gone?
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She's in bed with the flu...
OH! Palin, not my girlfriend.
The Wolves are looking solid, but I have a feeling it’s mostly because the MAvs are looking bad.
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Has Bristol had her baby yet?
And has she gotten hitched?
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She couldn't keep down the ramen i made her. Yuck.
http://newsroom.mtv.com/2008/12/30/bristol-palins-baby-heres-what-we-would-have-named-him/
they named him easton. like the sporting goods.
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I would have gone with...
….Tackle Palin. That or Snow Machine.
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Very nice....
…although they do like the “T” names.
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Twenty-Twelve Obama Punching Bag Palin
Too wordy?
Blago...
….should have appointed her to the Illinois senate seat. Screw residency requirements.
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I think it's got a nice ring to it.
Although, Obama never said a disparaging word about her that I heard.
If only she had shown the same courtesy.
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How about...
…Terrorist Fist Jab Palin?
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Do you think Easton..
….is because he plays hockey?
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I suppose...
…it beats CCM.
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Is it just me
or has Carney really stepped it up since McHale took over?
I think people forget...
…that he played DDM at Memphis. He can take it to the lane.
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Dwayne Casey is coaching now
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Brian Cardinal...
…is back to playing like he did at Purdue and early in the league: an absolute bastard.
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So Dirk has gone
from being horrible officiating away from the championship to losing to an 8th seed in the 1st round of the playoffs to being punked by Brian Cardinal?
Take about a fall..
I wonder if we'll see the Shimmy again
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I actually hope he signs with Boston...
That would be quite the full circle if he actually won a ring there.
But, I can’t imagine them being interested in him.
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I'm glad you called, Antoine!
Our towel boy was just in a nasty car wreck…
No.
Really, no. Once a guy loses it, it’s gone. It isn’t like Walker was ever that good anyway. His stats in Boston for all those years are inflated because he took a ton of shots.
(First comment, by the way. I love the site, guys.)
Thanks...
…much appreciated.
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Time to get the starters back in there.
Go for the throat.
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Yes...
…I don’t think they can last until the 1/2. I think the game is muddied enough where you can put in Al and tell him to muck it up even more.
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I love how the Wolves are kicking ass in the lane.
Elbows everywhere.
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I'm thinking about putting together a Hoopus night at the Target Center...
Any suggestions for a night?
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Depends on the night
but I’d be interested, in theory.
I'd be interested in a Hoopus night...
… but I’ll be out of Minny the rest of the season. Let’s have one next December—I’ll be around then…
Absolutely...
…they missed only 17 shots and grabbed 5 offensive rebounds. When you’re not missing shots and rebounding nearly 30% of your misses, that’s a good night.
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Starters all have +9
Bench players all have + 13
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Great half, but I’ve seen this team choke too many times.
agreed...
….the collapse could be painful.
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Random thought
if the Wolves and the Mavs were shooting as well as they have this season on 2s, the Mavs would be up 46-42.
Someone forget to tell us were bad
I just tuned in the game at halftime. I must have slipped into a parallel universe.
I think we've jinxed them ;)
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Al Jefferson should be yanked for flashing out on that 3 like that
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I never want to see Al Jefferson scowl at another teammate's blunder again
…and I don’t want to see Craig Smith for 2 months.
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Guys, I've just got home and had to check the score twice!
Are we in the process of being run down?
And how’s my favorite tubby undersized PF doing?
He'd be dangerous if he could hit the put back layup
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Holy shit...
…there’s a drive to the hoop. Imagine that: going back to what worked in the 1st.
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Are the Wolves already in the penalty?
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How is that not a travel on Kidd?
God I hate that call.
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NO! SPEED UP!
Terry is the only one that can run.
actually only 3
drafted high by cavs, signed with mavs a few yrs later, then i think was part of the jkidd/devin harris trade, but resigned with mavs this offseason
I challenge you right now
to find a worse set of five on the floor playing at any time tonight in the NBA than Ollie, Foye, Cardinal, Bassy, and Love.
I hate when Bassy takes 3s.
But at least he made this one.
"A bright spot in tonight's loss
was the outlet pass of Kevin Love that resulted in nothing. Back to you, Marnie."
Someone needs to hack Jason Terry's hands when he jets back
Seriously fucking irritating.
Pete really loves Dallas
I say we leave him there.
Cardinal is the only one that looks like he can get his head together.
That’s not a good sign.
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Foye's pass
That pass alone should keep Foye from ever running the point again.
by RedCandyStripedPants on Dec 30, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions
1. McCants + 2nd round pick for Sean Williams (interior defense)
2. Craig Smith + 2nd round pick for Marcus Williams & CJ Watson (depth at guard)
This lead wouldn’t be disappearing the way it is if we made these seemingly insignificant trades.
Those are terrible deals.
I’d be for trading either McCants and/or Smith, but those deals are just giving them away for players with less value.
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addition by subtraction with Shaddy
but Craig has his moments. Marcus Williams belongs in Europe.
doesn't matter
Marcus Williams and CJ Watson both have expirings, Rhino does not. We have way too many committed contracts for next year considering how bad we are and how many draft picks we have coming up
This team
can barely incorporate 1 rookie each year.
I don't know why we would be slowly incorporating 1 rookie per year to this team
I wouldn’t want rookies anywhere near this trainwreck of a roster. Clean out the roster as much as possible and take 3 rookies next year.
I actually agree with you that they are crap
But CJ Watson shoots 46% from 3 and we need some quick guards to throw at Terry right now
They are absolutely better than the players you're trading them for.
It may be a good idea to move them, but we can get more than those deals.
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Those picks will amount to nothing for us
I guess if you’re rooting for Glen Taylor to get the money from them when he sells them…
been listening to it on the radio...
sounds like we can’t pull down rebounds or guard Jason Terry… any more to it?
I think Al's looked bad.
He’s never looked comfortable on O, and his D has been pretty bad this half.
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roundhouse is right
There is absolutely ZERO interior defense. Not just the effort, but there’s literally no Wolf in the paint while the Mavs shoot layup after layup, interspersed with the occasional three from Terry (or even KIDD).
think about it
Jefferson, Love, Cardinal, Smith…..interior defense is something we wont have with those four
Sean Williams would start for us at center guaranteed
Despite the fact that he’s not that good, it would make us that much better solely for his defense and for AL gettting to play PF
have you ever seen him play?
I have seen him rack up 5 fouls in a 10 minute stretch. He’s better than what we got though
I've seen Craig Smith rack up 5 fouls in a 10 minute stretch on several occasions
while in that period of time getting shat on by guys way taller than him. At least Sean Williams is a defensive presence in the paint, I never said he was good.
no sense in making lateral moves
Williams is a headcase with from what I can tell, not much motivation to play.
In theory, this should be a very painful loss...
But watching Dwayne Casey completely out coach Kevin McHale has been absolutely fantastic. How bout that third quarter!
I'm wondering what Casey told them at half
“let’s whip on my old boss”?
He porbably said...
“Hey Josh Howard, this guy picked Ndudi Ebi over you. How do you feel about this?”
Here's the thing
playing an uncommon style with players who don’t get many minutes in games, the Wolves whip on Dallas. When you put your standard 4th quarter crew in, they get crushed.
Cardinal has his back to the guard.
Atleast he doesn’t have any pretense of offense.
Best half of the season and worst half of the season.
by McCleak on Dec 30, 2008 9:42 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
And they gave up at the end...
….no fouling. You seriously have to consider letting McHale go after something like that. They quit.
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who would take over coaching
do you hire Flip already during a Lost Season…OR Does Shisting or Hoiberg take over?
I don't give a shit....
….a chair could “coach” better than him in that game.
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Not sure
but i agree, just like when Minnesota lost the bowl game to TT that they were winning by like 30, and the coach who had fine job security got fired, i think this is grounds to fire mchale
well think of it this way
if we were winning McHales job would be safe and secure. The only way he goes is if this turns out to be one painful season for us fans.
Brian Cardinal:
26 minutes played. WHAT!?!?!?
not sure how or why
on a team with this bad of a record, Brian Cardinal is taking minutes away from Kevin Love
I've Got Mine....
even Decorated it with the # 21 and Garnett on the Back just to relive the days when we were relevant.
50 % from the field
first loss we’ve had this year when shooting over 47? i think that’s the stat. of course, when you lose the 3rd quarter by 11 and the 4th quarter by 18, you probably dont have very good odds of winning.
He shouldn't be allowed on the plane
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My ferverent hope is that when he shows up at Target Center
all his stuff is sitting outside in a box
They can't keep him after this...
…it’s that bad. He was clueless. How many timeouts did they end the game with? They didn’t foul with how many timeouts left? Good lord. What sort of 4th rate JV coach do you need to be to not understand this sort of thing? When Al is being fronted by a 7 footer and they sag 2 defenders on the backside, you would think a pro team could adjust. You would think that a basketball genius would be able to relay this sort of basic information to his players in a timeout.
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I have no idea how to coach a basketball team. None.
But you know what I would have done in the 3rd period when the Mavs cut it down to say, 12-15? Send in the Love/Cardinal/McCants/Telfair/Jefferson lineup that was absolutely brutalizing the Mavs in the 2nd.
Because...
…it happened to Dwayne Casey. I like that. Karma is a nasty bitch and it couldn’t have happened more perfectly.
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If there's one thing the Wolves FO have too much of
It’s bad karma
So in 2008 OJ is drafted by the Timberwolves and looks like someone just ran over his dog
I predict in 2009 the Timberwolves will draft Ricky Rubio and he’ll start crying like Carlo Rizzi when he’s outed by Michael Corleone.
i guarantee we end up with thabeet
and he’ll be worthless
i actually looked at this the other day,
since the 02 draft, only 1 non black player has been an allstar (Yao), and only 1 white player drafted in the lottery has been decent (dunleavy). so lets hope the love machine breaks the mold. also, i haven’t yet looked at the success of lottery picks that look like crackheads, but i didnt assume it was good, and now that brewer is out for the year, it doesn’t look like they have a high success rate, either.
We but they are great team guys and do all the little things.
They also probably have amazing small area quickness.
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