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I can't remember exactly when it was in the game where Orlando figured out that they could run a player down the left side of the lane only to have a Minnesota wing player collapse in a slow-as-molasseses double team that would give the Magic a wide-open three point attempt from the wing.  I' m guessing it was somewhere near the middle of the 3rd quarter because all of a sudden the pinstripes started jacking up the three ball with frightening regularity (14 attempts in the 3rd and 4th).  They all occurred on basically the same play.  Magic player A would drive the lane or kick it to Rashard Lewis and Courtney Lee, J.J. Reddick, or Hedo Turkoglu would set up camp on the opposite wing and wait for the pass and the open shot.  Actually, I know exactly when they figured out the collapsing double team

OK...

…Orlando has figured out the collapsing double team.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 3, 2008 7:31 PM CST reply reply

I'm pretty sure it was mid way through the 3rd.  Anywho...

This was another embarrassing effort by Our Beloved Puppies Zombies. The good guys managed to take a grand total of 22 more shots than the Magic yet still ended up losing by 11.  One would think such a thing impossible, but the Wolves shot 41.4% from the field.  Actually, that's kind of misleading.  The Wolves were shooting 33% at the end of the 3rd before they made 14 of 21 shots in the 4th. 

As if on cue, the Wolves once again lost a game because of that damn 4th 3rd quarter that Papa Glen is always complaining about.  If only the Wolves could solve that 3rd quarter problem....

(silence)

At the end of the 2nd, the Wolves had attempted 49 shots from the field (17 more than the Magic).  They had out-rebounded the Magic by a grand total of (12-28) to (0-15).  Yet, thanks to free throws and poor shooting, they squandered a solid pace + a massive rebounding advantage.  The Wolves only scored 8 points on 12 1st half offensive rebounds and they ended up down by 6 at the half.

Here's where things get a bit sticky.  The Wolves clearly couldn't hit the broad side of a barn last night.  However, the only reason they were still in the game was because they took a lot of shots and crashed the boards.  The big question at the half was this: Would the Wolves slow down the pace in hopes that they would shoot better if they took more time in the half court or would they go with the flow and keep shooting 20+ shots/quarter and hope that the shots eventually start to fall against a superior team? 

Randy Wittman chose the former and a team that was shooting 35% from the field with 24.5 shots per quarter at the end of the 2nd turned into a team that was shooting 33% on 17 shots at the end of the 3rd.  Somebody get Randy a calculator.

The 3rd quarter featured some especially brutal ball from our favorite team.  Not only could they only muster 17 shots, but Orlando out-scrapped them on the glass to the tune of 10-4.  That's right, the Wolves had 4 rebounds in an entire quarter.  This mostly had to do with Orlando shooting 67% from the floor during the quarter (to go along with 8 FTAs) but it also had to do with some absolutely baffling rotations on the part of the Wolves. With Miller out of the game due to a nasty rolled ankle, Randy Wittman, the coach of your favorite team, ran out Rashad McCants at the 3 (against the 6'10" Turkoglu), Ryan Gomes at the 4 (against the 6'10" Lewis), and Al Jefferson up against the massive Dwight Howard.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what happened next: Orlando went on a 20-4 run against the slow footed Minnesota midgets. 

Randy Wittman: turning his team's greatest strengths into weaknesses since 2006. 

Of course, with things going poorly against the mini-lineup, the Wolves' fearless leader decided that it would be a good idea to put Jason Collins in for Big Al instead of, you know, addressing the McCants-at-the3/Gomes-at-the-4 issue or the pace.  The team continued to get torched with the offensive do-nothing Collins in the game instead of Al.  It took until just over 3 minutes left in the quarter for Witt to sub in Kevin Love for Mr. Gomes.  Of course, even this little good deed couldn't be executed without a hitch and  Love entered the game with Craig Smith and The Rhino was promptly eaten by Superman.  Seriously, he was eaten. 

After seeing his small-ball/slow-paced team get torched to the tune of a -16 run, just how do you think Mr. Wittman ended the quarter?  With a lineup of Sebastian Telfair, Brian Cardinal, Shaddy, Smith, and Love.  I believe they were entered into the game by way of clown car.  I eagerly await word on whether or not the 3rd quarter conformed to any sort of "game plan" that Witt drew up at half time.

I'll say it until I'm blue in the face: there is nothing wrong with small ball if you accept the personnel you have and deal with it accordingly.  Zombies are zombies and you can't change them.  This team needs to be taking a ton of shots.  They rebound well and have several players not named Al who can really get up and down the court.  In the 1st, 2nd, and 4th quarters last night, the Wolves played watchable up-tempo basketball.  In the 3rd, they slowed it down and got annihilated.  I'm not saying it's as simple as pace, but when you have a team that is only shooting 35% from the field with a ton of rebounds, you don't make adjustments to minimize their attempts.  That's insane.  25 shots a quarter.  I don't care if they shoot 40% from the field, 25 shots a quarter.  That is your prescription for the day. 

Getting back to the Mike Miller injury, the Orlando TV crew quickly cut away to a shot of Kevin McHale covering his face in prayer.  He looked like someone had kicked his dog.  You could almost see the "holy crap there goes the trade" thought bubble over his head.

Speaking of the Magic TV crew, one of the great things about League Pass is that you get to hear the dirt on your favorite squad from other teams in the league who only get to see the Wolves play 2 or 4 times a year.  It was pretty amazing just how quickly Orlando's announcers could see exactly what the Wolves had in any given player.  "Kevin Love is a pure pick and pop type of player." "Craig Smith can't jump." "Rashad McCants can put up points in a hurry but not much else." "Randy Foye can't go to his left."  You get the picture.  Someone sign these guys up in the Wolves' front office.

Speaking of Mr. Love, he made his last 5 FGs of the night and ended up with 16 points on 6-10 shooting with 12 rebounds (8 offensive), 1 block, 1 shot blocked, and an even ast/to ratio.  I know he just went through a bad stretch of ball, but I am firmly convinced that by the end of the year, Love will be the best two-way player on this squad and he may even be the best player.  It was really amazing to watch the guy work on the offensive glass against the massive Orlando front line.  Even though he was out-sized and out-muscled, he still managed to grab a bunch of rebounds and keep a bunch of loose balls alive.  In his last 5 games he is shooting 50% from the floor while only getting his shot blocked 3 times.  Including the game against Phoenix where he only saw 15:18 of court time, Love has posted the following points, rebounds, and shots blocked numbers over his last 5 games: (16-12-1), (10-8-0), (18-12-1), (9-5-1), (3-5-0).  He's doing this in 20 mpg.  Remember folks, Jason Collins is your starting center.

Saving the best for last, the tilt against Orlando was a momentous occasion for Wolves fans.  It marked the official end of the Randy Foye at point experiment.  Last night Mr. Foye was moved to the off guard in favor of NBA vet Kevin Ollie.  Meanwhile, down in Miami, starting Heat point guard Mario Chalmers is averaging 30 minutes, 4.5 apg, and 9 ppg.  He is also 7th in the league in steals with 2.1 per game.  He would have cost a 2nd round pick.  The Wolves will now likely have to spend either a full MLE or a top pick on a starting point guard....to say nothing of having to address the off guard spot when Foye ends up as the perfect 6th man.  Who could have thunk it?  They traded away Chalmers for Pooh Jeter, Blake Ahearn, Kevin Ollie and they picked up a 6th man off guard with a lottery pick in place of Brandon Roy.  Yet somehow, these same clowns will be in charge of 4 1st round picks and a boat full of free agent cash in the off-season.  At least they have a coach who is equal to the task at hand.

Well, that about does it for now.  Big Al had another down game that was highlighted by yet another "book" defense, the Magic shot a season-best 57% from the field, and Courtney Lee looked like he's going to be a player. 

What say you?

PS: Can you really believe that Kevin Ollie is your favorite team's starting point?  It's exciting, isn't it? They couldn't bring on Mario Chalmers with a frickin' 2nd round draft pick, but they have no problem deciding the Roy/Foye debate once and for all by switching the still undersized Foye over to the off-guard.  Stick. Eye. Poke.

PPS: Orlando was playing without their starting backcourt.

UPDATE: I forgot about the nasty stint at the end of the 2nd quarter.  Britt deals with it nicely:

As for Wittman, let's limit ourselves to one example. With the Wolves down by two, 32-34, this is what color commentator Jim Petersen said as he checked out the coach's latest 5-man unit. "Well, this is going to be interesting: 4:12 to go [until halftime] and here is a super-small lineup for Minnesota, Craig Smith [at center] and Ryan Gomes [at power forward]. We've seen this lineup on the floor before and it's not been good." A total of 3:32 later, Orlando's lead had been bumped to 8 via a 10-4 run before Wittman subbed in Calvin Booth for Smith with 40 seconds left in the period. It is difficult to watch substitutions you instinctively know aren't going to work get implemented...and then have them not work.

UPDATE ii:  I can't believe I missed it before, but Brian Cardinal nearly had an 8 trillion. He played 7:43 without recording a stat.

UPDATE iii: Thanks to Ben Q. Rock over at Third Quarter Collapse, we now have a Four Factors widget for you. 

 

Pace Eff eFG FT/FG OREB% TOr
MIN 91.0 97.8 42.5% 17.2 36.4 16.5
ORL 109.9 64.6% 24.6 10.3 20.9

 

 

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This is the best brief assessment of our playing this year I've seen:

Dwyer

I swear that we’ve seen two distinct types of games every time out from the Timberwolves this season. One has them barely managing to string consecutive buckets together for the first three quarters, only to rally once the game is well out of hand for a somewhat-passable final point tally.

The second has them playing solid-to-quite good basketball before falling short in the fourth quarter. Not getting to the line. Not making good decisions offensively. Letting it all slip away. Obviously you’d prefer the latter. For two nights in a row, however, they’ve given us the former.

by wyn on Dec 4, 2008 9:12 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Did you see Love pull down boards against Dwight Howard???

And what about the point guard style passes Love can pull off? In fact, I think he’s a better passer than McCants and Foye combined. IN FACT, I’m starting the Love for starting PG bandwagon right now. RIGHT NOW.

by wyn on Dec 4, 2008 9:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he's clearly the best passer on the team,

his only competition would be Telfair in spurts. He has point forward, i.e. them basically running the offence through him at the high post, written all over him.

by plinytheelder on Dec 4, 2008 9:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think there are really too many people he has to compete with...

…Gomes is the only other two-way player on the squad. Here Love is with the 2nd best stats on 82Games:

http://www.82games.com/0809/0809MIN.HTM

Positive on/off:

http://www.82games.com/0809/08MIN11.HTM#onoff

He’s back up near a 17 PER:

http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2009/Timberwolves.htm

Which is only the 2nd above average PER on the team. They’re a bad team with a best player who only plays well on 1/2 of the court. If he can continue to shoot near 50% from the floor while getting 25-30 mpg I don’t see how he doesn’t become the best 2 way player on the team. He’s already a superior defender than Jefferson.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 9:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, this is gold:
With a lineup of Sebastian Telfair, Brian Cardinal, Shaddy, Smith, and Love. I believed they were entered into the game by way of clown car.

by wyn on Dec 4, 2008 9:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Danke

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The music from that episode of the Simpsons where they have the typical British chase comes to my mind. Can’t find it on youtube :(.

by Wim (Belgium) on Dec 5, 2008 4:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's the Benny Hill Show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spz8_rpE0e0

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 5, 2008 7:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

i’m on the road for holiday duty and thus a couple of days behind on the wolves news, but have to belatedly agree that this whole discussion was a first-rate report. thanks SnP!

by secretarykissinger on Dec 5, 2008 4:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for reading and participating...

…we appreciate it.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 5, 2008 5:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2 questions about the post:

1. do you really think this is the end of Foye at the point? This is a team that changes its starting lineup every game. 2. I cringed when I heard about Gomes at the 4 too…but to Wittman’s credit, everybody has these problems against Orlando – it’s just really hard to guard Lewis and Turkoglu, much less when they’re on the court together. Gomes might be the best guy on the team for Lewis. The best guy to guard Turkoglu is unfortunately out for the season…

by plinytheelder on Dec 4, 2008 9:38 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I do think it's the end....

…they also haven’t changed lineups in a while. Collins for Love was the last big move. Granted, it’s more than you’d like to see, but it’s not quite every game. Love should have been in there for Shaddy. Put him on Hedo and swing Gomes over to Lewis. Carney is still on this team I believe.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 9:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

whoa...

Love on Turkoglu? I like Carney much better.

Not to be nitpicky…but didn’t they just change starting lineups last night? I wanted to tape the game but for whatever reason I no longer get 45…so I’m just going off of what Tony O reported in the game thread (i.e. Ollie at the 1, Gomes at the 4).

Anyways that’s all I’ll say, I’m sick of not seeing these stupid games and only being able to talk in hypotheticals. I guess if there’s a good stretch to miss it’s this one.

by plinytheelder on Dec 4, 2008 9:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They did change last night...

….and the last one before that was Collins/Love. I was pretty unclear about that. They went to a 2-3 at times last night and Love rotated over to Hedo.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 10:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Carney seems to be the new...

Kirk Snyder or Marcus Banks. There are likely times where he’d create a better matchup but I don’t see him in the future of this team and since this is far from a contending squad I see minutes being spent on him as a waste. Lets see what happens when Love goes against Centers, what happens when he goes against SF’s. That is valuable information and experience that will make a difference when this team has more talent.

by Pants_ on Dec 4, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Post

But I think the (hopefully) permanent move of Foye to the off-guard is good news, and doesn’t have to represent a failure of the front office—Roy’s dominance has already done that. Foye looked pretty good at times, last night, and has looked good for the most part, since his breakout game vs Detroit. If he plays the rest of the year the same way he has played the last six or so games, he’ll be considered a pretty good—and above-average starting off-guard.

And you can only take so many shots at AJ’s defense (and related compliments to K-Love’s defense) before noting that Love usually matches up with power forwards and Jefferson is stuck with centers. If they flipped positions, their defensive abilities might look pretty similar. I don’t doubt that Love is a slightly better defender than Jefferson—(and certainly a more intense one)—but some of that could be attributed to their respective roles on the team. In any case, glad to see Love play well, last night. With this boring stretch of mounting losses, I look forward to seeing him develop.

by Andy G on Dec 4, 2008 9:56 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I thought exactly what you wrote about Love and the 4...

…but then I checked out his positional stats at 82Games:

http://www.82games.com/0809/08MIN11.HTM#bypos

He’s playing better at the center position. Granted, it doesn’t show who he was going up against or who he was playing along side of, but I wasn’t expecting that. Just watching them play, I’d say that Love is about twice the defensive player as Big Al. He positions himself better, he rotates better, he plays the weak side better, he is better at getting the correct angles in the passing lanes…it goes on and on. Jefferson just doesn’t seem to get that end of the court.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 10:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

that is a stark difference. I’d really like to see Wittman stop overthinking things and just let Love sink or swim along side Al Jeff for 32-55 minutes.

by Pants_ on Dec 4, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yep

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If that’s the case, then maybe Love should guard centers and Jefferson should guard forwards. Love defended Duncan well—and I was impressed by that.

Also, not to belabor a point that we’ve already discussed at length, here, but I don’t think Chalmers would be any better than Ollie or Telfair, at point. Telfair went head-to-head with Chris Quinn, and completely ate his lunch, last year at Target Center. That’s the guy who Chalmers starts over, and sometimes splits time with. Being a limited role player point guard is pretty easy when surrounded by major talent. Ask Rajon Rondo. If we had Chalmers (or Rondo, for that matter) I don’t think the team would be any better, and we’d ask the same questions about those guys that we do about our current guards. We’re missing impact players—(which is why Love, who could potentially be one, should get more minutes)—so I’m not losing sleep over lost role players, like Mario Chalmers.

by Andy G on Dec 4, 2008 10:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Where is the allowance for “plays next to Wade and Marion?” Hah, just joking. I still don’t think Chalmers would be any better than Telfair. Wade runs the Heat offense from the two—something we want Foye to do, but probably won’t ever happen. If it does, then Mario would be a nice side-kick.

by Andy G on Dec 4, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A co-worker of mine...

…says that there was a tidbit on the PA show today about the team having 2nd guesses about the Chalmers pick. Can anyone out there verify that? I have a tough time listening to that show when there is so much Vikings news to sift through.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of point guards...

I saw this on TrueHoop’s first cup, about Brandon Jennings, in Italy:

“…Buried in the depth chart behind guards like former All-Big East performer Allan Ray (Villanova) and former Ivy League player of the year Ibrahim Jaaber (Penn), Jennings exited the team’s first eight games averaging 4.9 points and 3.0 assists in 17.3 minutes. … Instead of enjoying a high-profile role at Arizona, where he would have served as the Wildcats’ primary perimeter complement to versatile forward Chase Budinger, he’s struggling to earn minutes for a 4-4 squad in the Italian League. As a result, his draft stock is falling.”

Every draft-related comment I make, from now on, implicitly carries the “assuming McHale is not running the team…” caveat. But, if Jennings falls out of the Top 10, that could be quite a steal with our Miami pick.

by Andy G on Dec 4, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I see Jennings

as a legit possibility with our top pick.

That description doesn’t seem to jive with the DX Jennings notes… I thought I’d just seen a very positive article on him that I’m not tracking down right now.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brandon-Jennings-1114/

by Pants_ on Dec 4, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What Chalmers can do

that Telfair can’t is shoot. Telfair, on the other hand, is far more creative off the dribble. I still don’t think Chalmers will ever be a star pg, but as you note, he doesn’t have to in Miami – all he needs to do is play D and hit spot-up jumpers off of offence created by Wade.

by plinytheelder on Dec 4, 2008 1:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why Ollie?

Can somebody please explain why it makes sense to give Ollie the nod over Bassy? Ollie is 12 years older and on a shorter contract. But even with all things being equal, I think Bassy brings a lot more to the table on offense and I haven’t been impressed at all with Ollie’s defense. Now that Foye may be out of the picture at point, give Bassy his 25 minutes and let his development continue.

by SFJ on Dec 4, 2008 12:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

A: Because they're the Wolves

It’s like trying to explain the physics of an MC Escher drawing.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a thrilling battle at 3/4 speed

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

At the Risk of Bringing the Follicle Gods Wrath Upon Me...

If you’re sporting the male pattern baldness like Cardinal is, and you play in the NBA, don’t you have to just shave it all off?

by jianfu on Dec 4, 2008 1:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

By the way what’s with these “find your russian beauty today, browse photos now” ads?! I know you guys aren’t in charge of the ads, but if anyone from SBN is reading this – come on.

by plinytheelder on Dec 4, 2008 3:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They usually are geared towards key words....

…for instance, when we talked about Crunch’s gay joke we had a men’s hot line ad. Did anyone mention mail order brides?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm getting "Murder Articles" now...

You know the guy that I think would be fantastic in a Wolves uniform right now? Brandan Wright. He’s the guy picked immediately after Corey Brewer.

He’s a 6’10" forward who I think would look good at the 3 next to Love and Jefferson. While he doesn’t yet have the weight to guard in the post, he’s hell of a shot blocker, and he’s got a pretty solid slashing/mid-range jumper game.

Nothing against Corey, just looking at draft histories and sighing.

Speaking of sighing at draft histories, think Phoenix regrets selling Rondo to Boston much?

by wyn on Dec 4, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking he'd be good...

…as well as Anthony Randolph. A big, long athletic guy who could play the 3.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 4, 2008 5:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They are both 6'10''

but isn’t Wrights game more of a PF than a SF (where as Randolph is a SF). Seems like Wright would be good next to Love OR Jefferson but tough to pull off all three.

by Pants_ on Dec 4, 2008 10:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's definitely quicker than Love and Al...

… but he’d probably have matchup problems with the faster 3s in the league.

GSOM’s take: http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2008/10/26/647222/player-recaps-and-predicti

not exactly a resounding endorsement (the short of the short is wright’s still a project) but it sounds like if he can gain some confidence, his athleticism will carry him until he’s more comfortable with playing. i just like him as a potential 3 who can provide the roving shot-blocking against slashers (since our perimeter d is awful) that love and al can’t.

he’s young and cheap and if the new GS regime kicks out mully, wright would probably be available at a lower price.

by wyn on Dec 4, 2008 10:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the reason I'm stalking Al-Farouq Aminu

Unfortunately he seems more like a 4-3, not a 3-4.

by jianfu on Dec 4, 2008 11:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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