The Problem with Brook
As any long time Wolves fan can tell you, there are three certainties in life: death, taxes, and the Wolves inability to move up in the draft lotto. Because of this fact (which I'm hoping and praying against), most fans have begun to resign themselves to coming to grips with who the Wolves will select between the 3rd and 6th picks.
At this point in time, there appears to be two players who are mentioned more than the others: OJ Mayo and Brook Lopez. Throughout the year it has become almost common wisdom that one of the Wolves' biggest problems is that Al Jefferson and Ryan Gomes constantly play out of position at the 4 and 5. The logical extension of this point of view is that the Wolves need to acquire a legit big man to allow Big Al to move back to the 4 (where he is dominant) and Gomes to the 3 (where he is more than serviceable). As a quick side-note, it is surprising that no one thought to do a quick overview/study of how Big Al played along legit big Kendrick Perkins during his time in Beantown. Another post for another day I suppose.
The Big Man opinion rests on a couple of assumptions: first, it places a greater importance on position rather than function. The problem with this stance is that Al Jefferson is a below average defensive player at any position and the Wolves struggle with perimeter defense, thus putting additional defensive pressure on sub-par defensive bigs. Because of this, it's somewhat hard to gauge whether or not Al Jefferson is a terrible defensive center or if he's just a slightly below average defensive center who has to clean up the scraps left behind by terrible defensive perimeter players. Functionally, do the Wolves need to stop players on the perimeter or do they need someone to clean up the mess? For all of you calling for a Marcus Camby-esque defensive center, perhaps you can take it up with him over a round of golf after his Nuggets were bounced in four by the Lakers.
Second, it assumes (albeit in a round-a-bout way) that the Wolves should place a greater importance on need rather than best player available in the draft. Is a functional defensive center worth more than a potential scoring stud at the 3? Again, the idea of position dominates the discussion here rather than function or, in this case, ability. This assumption becomes even more problematic when you start associating names with the position. Not to pick on anyone in particular, here's the latest example I could find on the subject:
Minnesota at the number three spot would have a hard time passing up on Lopez. Pairing him alongside Al Jefferson in the paint would form a formidable duo inside that would be the first big step in the right direction for Minnesota competing again in the Western Conference. If the Timberwolves decide to pass on Lopez, don't expect Memphis to do the same. Their most glaring need even when they had Pau Gasol was a true center, and Lopez would certainly provide that.
Again, the big thing missing from any discussion about Lopez and the Wolves is a discussion about function and actual performance. This is somewhat understandable as the basic Big Man argument goes like this: Big Al sucks at center and the Wolves suck, therefore the Wolves need a center so that Al Jefferson (and the Wolves) won't suck. Does this argument hold up with the name of Brook Lopez attached to the position? Let's take a look at the numbers.
Brook Lopez does a number of things quite well. He's a nice scorer, he has legit size, and he is a disruptive presence on the defensive end of the court. For all of these positives, there is one big one vis-a-vis the Wolves: he is a free throw machine. Every 40 minutes on the floor, Brook averages 9.3 FTA and 7.4 FTM. As I have mentioned many, many, many times before, the single biggest problem the Wolves have is a horrendous free throw discrepancy. However, this positive comes with a caveat. Should Lopez make his way to the Wolves, he will not be the focal point of the offense. How many of his FTAs came during plays run for him and how many came in the flow of the game? I don't know the answer to this question but it is one that the Wolves should seriously investigate should they think about selecting Lopez. How many touches does he need in order to bring his biggest asset to the table? How many FTAs does he get when plays are not run for him? Again, the free throws are nice, but he will play a specific role for the Wolves and can he perform this task within said role?
OK, let's move on to the bad: Lopez is a poor shooting big with a moderate rebound rate who doesn't block nearly as many shots as he should and who didn't exactly shine when paired up against legit NBA prospects. Let's go through these one-by-one:
First, Lopez is a legit seven footer who shot under 50% from the floor for the season. This can mean one of two things: he is simply a terrible shooter or he is a moderate shooter who shot more mid-range jumpers than your average 7 footer. In Brook's case, it's the later. He is not your typical back-to-the-basket big and he relied on his jump shot; specifically, a little turn to the left/fade away ditty that was prominently featured in Stanford's big win against Marquette. I suppose this attribute could be worked into a positive with the Wolves: Big Al is the back-to-the basket guy and if he is going to be paired with another big, his partner shouldn't clog up the lane. However, I'm of the opinion that college 7 footers should be able to hit over 50% from the floor as they have the size to dominate. This opinion is backed up by years and years of college-to-the-NBA examples. It's a fairly significant red flag.
Second, his rebound rate raises a few eyebrows. With only 8.2 TREB, Lopez truly lacks a rebounding presence that fits his size. Of all the centers listed by Draft Express, Lopez is the 13th best offense rebounder and the 10th best rebounder (2.9/8.2). His Pac10 counterpart Kevin Love ranks in the top 4 in both categories: netting 3.6 OREB and 10.6 TREB/game. Jason Thompson of Rider, who is widely thought to be a late first/early 2nd pick, comes in at 3.6/12.1.
Overall, Lopez grabs about 20% of his team's offensive and defensive rebounds. With a 7 foot power forward (his brother) sharing the floor, this low of a number for a 7 footer is somewhat expected (Kevin Love grabs nearly 30% of his team's boards), but it is still rather troubling, as 7 foot college centers should dominate the glass.
Third, against NBA prospect big men, Lopez has been less than impressive. The Cardinal is 0-3 vs. Kevin Love's Bruins with Lopez going for just over 12 ppg and 7 rpg and Love getting over 14 and almost 8.
Against Cal's Devon Hardin, he fared a bit better; going for 23/4 and 15/9 on a combined 12-23 shooting while holding Hardin to 17/4 and 5/5.
Down the stretch, Lopez managed 2 50% shooting games against Washington State and Marquette, but he also put up 10-22 against Texas, 5-14 and 8-22 in losses to UCLA, 9-24 against Arizona, and 4-13 against USC. In these games he averaged 1.88 blocks and 9.5 boards per game...hardly the type of dominant numbers that would make up for a poor shooting big man.
Perhaps the biggest strike against Lopez is his relative worth in the draft compared to players that will likely be available at the top of the 2nd round. As you can see by clicking here , college bigs like Trent Plaisted, Devon Hardin, Jason Thompson, David Padgett, and Robin Lopez all compare favorably to Brook in one way or another. At least one of these players will surely be available at the top of the 2nd round. This doesn't even take into account international players like Omer Asik, Nikola Pekovic, and Nathan Jawai, or smaller college centers like Joey Dorsey. The bottom line here is that (Danilo Gallinari + Devon Hardin) > (Brook Lopez + Shaun Foster) and (OJ Mayo + Jason Thompson) > (Brook Lopez + JR Giddens).
Wrapping things up, I would be remiss if I did not make it perfectly clear that the Wolves could do a number of things that would make Brook Lopez a decent selection with the #3-6 pick. If they could move up in the draft to grab a big perimeter proficient 2/3 like Chris Douglas-Roberts or Chase Budinger, Lopez would make a whole lot more sense than he would should the Wolves hold on to their 2nd rounders and take a 2nd tier perimeter player like Foster or Giddens.
The Wolves lose games mostly because they are a terrible perimeter shooting squad that plays terrible perimeter defense while amassing a tremendous free throw shooting disparity. While the Big Al/Big Man argument makes a lot of sense at first glance, once you start plugging names into picks, it becomes clear that simply picking a big man to have one on the squad isn't as simple or preferable as it first seemed. The Wolves have functional, not positional, needs and there are a few other options besides Brook Lopez (or with Mr. Lopez) that make a whole lot more sense for this rebuilding club.
UPDATE: Check out Ken Pomeroy's Stanford stats page . Of special notice is Brook's %Poss and %Shots line. He ranks 10th in the nation by touching the ball on 32.3% of his team's possessions while ranking 16th in the nation of percentage of team shots taken, with 34.4%. I'm sure this will work out swimmingly with Big Al and Foye. A modest jump shooting 7 footer who requires the ball 1/3 of the time in order to put up not-all-that-impressive numbers...where can I sign up?
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Alright, you sold me. No, I’m not giving up on Brook Lopez at 3, I’m now pulling for the Wolves to trade both 2nd rounders and move up to grab Chris Douglas-Roberts.
Frankly, while I have nothing against Brewer, I’d rather have CDR and Gomes at the 2/3 long-term. Of course that’s wild speculation as CDR hasn’t ever played an NBA minute, but he’s strong, mature and has championship experience.
And, while you’re right that there should be a good number of worthwhile big men in the 20-40 range, getting CDR would make me VERY happy.
That is, of course, if we don’t get #1 or #2.
by wyn on
May 8, 2008 8:51 AM CDT
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I’ve been on the CDR push for a long time. I really hope they get him. He’s a good defender too.
by Stop-n-Pop on
May 8, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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The problem with Brook is that he sucks. That is all. We better not draft him. Good article.
by College Wolf on
May 8, 2008 8:58 AM CDT
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“The problem with Brook is that he sucks”
...:) that’s much more succinct than what I had.
by Stop-n-Pop on
May 8, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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What can I say, brevity is my buddy…
by College Wolf on
May 8, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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Trading McCants
What are the odds that we trade McCants half way through the first round for a Center?
by jgale on
May 8, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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I think McCants is the most likely to be traded of all our youngsters, however I’m not sure what his value is around the league. There are plenty of guys out there who are more consistent at all the things Shad does. They would cost more on the trading market and not have Shad’s potential, but if I were searching for someone with Shad’s skillset, I’d be more apt to trade for a sure thing than Shad.
The other thing we run into is roster overload. We currently have 3 picks, 6 free agents, 7 guys under contract for next year and some extra 1sts in the future. Even if we trade our 2nd rounders for a low 1st, and Shad for a mid-1st, we’re still at 3 picks, 6 contracts and 6 free agents. That’s 15 players, even though it’s highly unlikely we re-sign all the free agents.
My free agent priority list goes like this: Gomes, Telfair, Smith, Richard, Snyder, Doleac. And as much as I think it’d be a tremendous waste to just let Smith and Richard walk, they don’t fill a real need on this team.
by wyn on
May 8, 2008 10:53 AM CDT
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Agreed. Even though I think Foye should go before Shaddy, I think he’s the most likely candidate to be attached to a deal with picks and Toine’s salary.
by Stop-n-Pop on
May 8, 2008 12:38 PM CDT
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Brook Lopez Also Known as Christian Lattner
I can’t believe that you did not make the obvious connection to a year when there were two all-stars in the draft, the Wolves picked third and took a tall while center who had be good in College at a exclusive university. Will Brook Lopez be another Christian Lattner?
by jgale on
May 8, 2008 9:23 PM CDT
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:)
I actually have a column in waiting about that should the lotto land them at 3rd. However, as a long time Wolves fan, I feel like I would be playing with fire by jumping the gun on them staying where their record says they should be. Here is what I fully expect to hear on draft day:
DAVID STERN: And with the 6th pick in the 2008 NBA Draft the Minnesota Timberwolves select…Kevin Love.
If they go between 3-6, my hope for them is that they are able to move a few of their future picks to gain an additional first rounder and walk away with this:
Top pick: Gallinari, Randolph, or Green (in that order)
Mid-1st: CDR
Top 2nd: Best available big
I’d like to think that they could move one of their off guards with one 2nd and either the Celtic or Heat pick for something in the mid-first.
by Stop-n-Pop on
May 9, 2008 6:50 AM CDT
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Great article. You sold me.
Why are you so gung-ho on the Italian Stallion? The glaring need for outside shooting and help at the 3 that you have been advocating?
by Matty_P on
May 12, 2008 9:42 PM CDT
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I've seen a few games...
...of his on Sopcast and he’s got legit size while being able to shoot, put the ball on the floor, pass, and get to the line. I suppose it could be argued that one of the reasons why the 3 gets torn apart is that Gomes spent too much time over at the 4. That’s probably the biggest argument for a center vis-a-vis a wing player and it’s something I’ll get to in a future post. However, the Wolves lost because they couldn’t defend the wing/perimeter and while being unable to shoot from range or match their opponents’ free throw production. Because of this, I think they should take the best 3 available and hope for the best with a big man at the top of the 2nd round. There’s just too much of a gap between the top picks and the 2nd rounders on the wing. I’ll have another one of these articles on Mayo here soon. I was really surprised to look at Mayo’s games this year; the gap between him and Rose is a lot smaller than I thought.
by Stop-n-Pop on
May 13, 2008 6:32 AM CDT
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