2009
There has been a lot of digital ink spilled over the past few months about the upcomming super class of 2010 free agents (likely to include D-Wade, Chris Bosh, and Lebron James). It seems like just about every team in the league is doing what it can to open up cap space to make a run at the Big 3 as well as "lesser" players like Amare, Yao, Redd, Joe Johnson, Manu, Nash, Chandler, and McGrady. The prevailing buzz around Wolves Fandom is that Our Beloved Puppies are setting the stage for a big run at the stars in 2010. There are two problems with this line of thinking: first, we live in the frozen tundra; second, the Wolves would be much better served to make their free agent run in 2009, as their competition will not be quite as stiff as it will be the following year.
Let's start by taking a quick look at the 2009 free agent market.
The 2 big names of the 2009 market are already off the books: Deron Williams and Chris Paul. Beyond them, the rest of the 2005 Draft class is up for restricted offers: Martel Webster, Charlie Villanueva, Andrew Bynum, Danny Granger, Jason Maxiell, Raymond Felton, Channing Frye, and David Lee.
Beyond those mentioned above, the 2009 market could contain the following players: Okafor, Deng, Ben Gordon, Marvin Williams, Mike Bibby, Drew Gooden, Brandon Bass, Andre Miller, Hedo Turkolu, Keith Bogans, Chris Wilcox, Okur, Boozer, The Pryz, AI, Marion, Odom, and...Kobe.
The way things currently stand, the teams with the biggest chance of being players in the 2009 market are Portland (between $18-35 mil w/o or w options), Memphis (between $37-47), the Clips ($41 mil), and Indy ($40-51). There are a few other teams that could open up significant space (it remains to be seen what will happen in Atlanta or Golden State), but it looks like the 2009 free agent market could end up being even less cluttered than this year's affair, especially if Portland makes some extensions/offers, the Clips stay put, and Indy focuses on its young core. Whatever happens, it is likely that there won't be as many teams with $10-12 mil to spend as there are players who can command it (especially if Gordon, Okafor, and Deng play out their contracts this year and guys like Hedo take their ETO).
As for the Wolves, they are currently sitting at $52.5 mil with 11 contracts at the end of the upcomming season. Without the cap holds and options (Carney, Brewer, McCants, and Foye), they can clear space all the way down to $39.8 mil. Foye adds $3.5, Brewer nets $2.9, Carney at $2.5, and Shaddy will raise it a whopping $3.6 mil.
With the cap projection at $61.5 mil, the Wolves would need to come in below $50 mil in order to a) sign their 1st rounder and b) make a legit run at either a full MLE or a $10-12 mil player. Let's take a quick look at what the Wolves could do to clear cap space for the 2009 free agent season:
- Decline options on young players. We should have a pretty good idea of who wins the Foye v. McCants Death Match this year. By picking one over the other, the Wolves can gain $3.5 mil in cap space. The same goes for Brewer and Carney to the tune of at least $2.5 mil. Ultimately, the Wolves can lower their base level $52.5 mil payroll by at least $6 mil should they cut 2 of these 4 players: giving them a pre-draft cap number of $46.5 mil, which is enough to spend part of the MLE as well as go after a top-flight 2009 free agent.
- Pull a Philly and trade the young players for last minute cap space. This one requires a bit of luck (finding a good trading partner with a trade exception or one who wants to sign and trade) but it would allow the Wolves to accept the options of their young players and then move them as young and relatively cheap assets to teams who will not be a part of the 2009 market.
- Trade Brian Cardinal's contract for an expiring deal. This option may be the Wolves' best chance at clearing 2009 cap space. Cardinal's deal comes off the books before the big 2010 season so he won't cost a team their chance at the table in the big sweepstakes. In order to see what sort of value Cardinal's deal has, let's take a look at some numbers put together by fellow Hoopus member Wyn:
The upper and lower trade limits of Cardinal's deal are $7.9 and $4.9 mil respectively. What players have expiring contracts in that price range?
Eric Snow CLE $7,312,500
Mikki Moore SAC $5,784,480
Marquis Daniels IND $6,864,200
Stromile Swift NJ $6,200,000
Donyell Marshall OKC $5,950,894
Bobby Jackson HOU $6,090,000
Jeff Foster IND $5,500,000
Desmond Mason MIL $5,300,000
Malik Rose NY $7,647,500
The best targets for the Wolves are players with salaries above Cardinal's $6.3 mil. This way, whatever team that takes him on will save a bit of money in 08 while taking a lesser cap hit in 09. The first player that jumps to my mind here is Eric Snow. Cleveland needs the money in 2010 to try and keep Lebron. The Wolves would be able to clear an additional $6.7 mil off the books for a 2009 free agent run, bringing down their base level number to $45.8 mil, which is just about enough to take a run at a top flight free agent and a full MLE. Whatever the case, by moving Cardinal's deal for an expiring deal, the Wolves could open up a massive amount of cap space and put themselves at the top of the list of 2009 free agent suitors.
Of course, Cleveland (or another team) may want something more than Brian Cardinal in return. By adding Shaddy to the mix, the Wolves can pull a deal with an upper end of $11.2 and a lower end of $7. Should they be able to move both players, they would push their 2009 cap space all the way down to $43.3 with 9 contracts.
The Wolves have also done an excellent job in signing their young talent to short contracts that are very cap friendly. Should they need to move a larger contract like Cardinal, it would be much easier for the other team to take that sort of deal on if another player like Shaddy, Carney, or Brewer were attached to the trade.
Wrappinig this thing up, there are several things that make the 2009 free agent season more attractive to the Wolves than 2010: less competition, just as much cap flexibility, and a fairly significant number of smaller assets (small contracts + draft picks) that could be packaged to open up additional cap space. 2010 is going to be a free-for-all. The Wolves stand a much better chance of being players in 2009 when the pace is slower, the competition isn't quite as thick, and the rest of the NBA is gearing up for the big mess in 2010.
UPDATE: Cardinal is subject to trade restrictions in a joint trade until on or right around August 26th. Until that point, he would have to be traded in a one-on-one trade due to CBA restrictions:
In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:
For two months after receiving the player in trade or claiming him off waivers, if the player is being traded in combination with other players. However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately. This restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap. (Also see question number 72 for a special case where players can be traded together in less than two months.)
In order for the trade to happen before the 2 month deadline, the Wolves would have to complete a non-simultaneous trade with the Cavs (or whoever) before later attaching Cardinal to part of the deal that completes the earlier trade. Or, they could just wait 2 months and have a go at it before the season starts. Keep in mind that for any move to involve Carney or Cardinal, 2 months have to pass if they are included with other players...which is reason numero uno why the Carney + additional assets to Golden State for Wright rumors do not seem to make a whole lot of sense.
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Really interesting, especially the thing with dealing Shaddy + Cardinal for an expiring deal should be do able.
Only question remains, who would we try to get? He needs to be max 28 years old and fit in (because we’ve already got so many players we need to start filling the holes).
The only hole I’m still seeing is Defensive/enforcer center. There’s on in 2010 (Chandler) but not in 2009, ? unless maybe Okafor, but I’m not sure h’d like 28 minutes of play time. Think he wants more (for some reason I think Chandler would be ok with 28).
We off course might see more holes developing during the coming season…
by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 27, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
pg/sg/sf
all could be needs, depends if foye or sebass can prove they can start at the 1, if they can, a sg who can defend is still prob a need, as is possibly the three, if brewer don’t step it up at least a little this year, and more the year after.
Maybe shawn marion? I think he slots in at the three, even if his jumper is a little shaky, he would cover some major defensive holes.
by tkired on Jul 27, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm really hoping...
...that sebass can be the starting point for this team for a long time. His PPR and ast/to numbers were top-shelf last year and he should get a bump on PER and some of his eff numbers if he gives up the 3 for the dribble drive and kick.
Marion will want to get at least 17 mil, which I think is what he is making in Miami this year. I don’t think the market will be there for that, but I’m sure he’ll try.
They’ll have some flexibility if they play their cards right this year. It will be interesting to see who works and who doesn’t. Foye and McCants should be absolute known quantities by mid-season.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 27, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your thinking on this...
...my only question is, who would you take? Looking at your first list (paragraphs 3/4), and assuming that Pekovic will come over sometime and that Telfair will pan out (I agree with you on him by the way), the only guy that really stands out to me – i.e. that fills a need on the team – is Deng. I don’t really see Marion coming here (not a huge fan of his anyway).
From the last list – if I read you right, the more realistic one – I don’t really see any of those guys with the Wolves. The only ones I really like are Foster and Jackson, and maybe Moore, but where to play those guys given current personnel? Daniels is the only one who seems to “fit,” in case current 2s and 3s don’t pan out, but he has been very inconsistent.
I say offer Kobe the MLE and the chance to back up McCants!
by plinytheelder on Jul 27, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they have a shot...
...at Deng, Webster, Hedo, or Granger and a guy like Bass or Pryz to fill out the 5. I think it will be a depressed market and teams with money to offer will command a bit more attention than usual.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 27, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great post SNP
I really like the idea of trading Cardinal + McCants for something. Actually, I LOVE it. Also, we could trade Cardinal + Smith too. AND we could include our future 1st round picks that we’ve acquired from other teams. I don’t see how that couldn’t get done for a nice asset.
As for free agency in 2009 rather than 2010. I love that idea. Tyson Chandler or Deng would be amazing additions to this team. Both guys fill holes. Also, why not Shawn Marion? He obviously doesn’t care what team he plays for and just wants the money. So why not us? He and Deng are much needed players for this club.
by College Wolf on Jul 28, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tyson Chandler
wont be a free agent until 2010 at the earliest. 2011 if he doesn’t exercise his early termination.
by roundhouse on Jul 28, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Also, why not Shawn Marion?"
Too much dinero. $17 mil is crazy money. I’m also really hoping Deng can’t get something worked out with the Bulls this year. I guess I should add Cleveland to the list of teams that can be competitive here this year. They have about $30 mil in expiring contracts and they could pull a deal/sign and trade with a lot of clubs. I like Deng or Hedo…I think $12 mil would be enough to land one of them, preferably Deng. Here’s hoping that he simply signs this year’s tender and enters next season as a URFA.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 28, 2008 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If there isn't a team that would go big on...
...Josh Smith this year I don’t see how anyone will give $17 mill to Marion. He’ll be 31 and was shipped out of a perfect situation for him in Phoenix because of his attitude.
He’ll have to be fantastic this year to get $13+ mill.
by Pants_ on Jul 28, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The attitude...
...is another thing that worries me. He had everything he could possibly want in Phoenix and he saw the situation as being exactly the opposite of what it was.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 28, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
he wanted to be the man in Phoenix, and got miffed that he became the number 3 (basically he felt he paid his dues and got overjumped by a young kid and pushed out by a free agent). I think that’s a pretty fair assessment on where he was by the time Amare came back from his knee surgery.
by McCleak on Jul 28, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being on a team that has a chance to win a championship and get paid well, that’s what you’d expect players want. I wonder if he’s happy now being the number 1-2 on the worst team in the league, I don’t get that at all.
To say it in other words:
What’s wrong with being a cog in a well oiled machine, why would you wanna be a bigger cog in a crappy machine…
Tyson Chandler is the reason why I’m still not sure that we’d not rather be in the 2010 market. Because he’s only a semi-superstar we might have a legitimate chance at signing him. He’s also still pretty young and I think by 2010 there’s a good chance we’ll be good enough for him to realize he’s the only piece missing for a championship contender.
Also, there are so many other stars in that year that most teams with that built up cap might already be done dealing.
On the other hand, I also like Deng. Say we have only kept 2 out of the 4 pairs of players (Foye, Shaddy, Brewer, Carney).
We’ve still get Gomes, Miller at SF and Foye/Brewer or McCants/Carney (or whatever combination) at SG… Where does Deng fit in?
We’ve also got Pekovic. If we bring him and he’s good, the Chandler story goes down the drain.
The only thing I’d still like done right now is signing Livingston or maybe Pargo (and sliding Foye over to SG).
So say Foye shows that he needs to play most of his minutes at SG this year, that’s something I can see: signing another point guard to share minutes with Telfair there (let’s forget for a moment we are all very high on Telfair and let’s say we only play him 20 minutes or so), that would give room to sign a point guard that can play 28-30 minutes for us .. the only points in that year are already gone.
So the point is: I can see the money happening in either year but I’m not sure cutting just 2 players out of the Carney/Brewer/Mccants/Foye quartet is enough. I’d even more hate cutting Gomes. Though I think he’s the one that would have to go if we could sign Deng, can’t see it any other way.
by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 29, 2008 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wops, here I go again.
On second thought, I might rather cut both Brewer AND Carney than Gomes to make room for Deng. Deng seems to be more in the mold of Brewer/Carney so keeping Gomes would change the mold of the team less..
by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 29, 2008 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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