Will rebound for food
First of all, last night was the first time this year where League Pass came in handy. With the game not being shown on FSN North or Channel 45 I was able to pick up an archived replay after getting home from watching Winona State defeat Minnesota State in front of a big (3,500+) crowd at the Glen Taylor funded Bresnan Center. With states like Iowa and Wisconsin having more than 1 D-1 program it should be every Minny baller's wish that Winona State makes the leap in the next 10 years. I'm not a big fan of college ball on TV, but in person and in front of a playoff-like crowd, it's the bee's knees. Anywho, on to the big boys.
Last night's tilt put the Wolves' winning streak at 5 games, their first five-gamer since December 12, 2005. Let me repeat that: this is the first time they have won five in a row since 2005. Two thousand and frickin' five.
Last night's tilt was also the first game in the streak against what can be considered a solid opponent. Much has been made of the Wolves beating subpar competition and they have done what we hoped they would do at the beginning of the year (beat up on the crap) but the victory against the Bucks represented something of an additional milestone. Four quarters of actual basketball are now being played at the Target Center. Can you believe it? When was the last time the Wolves played like this? When was the last time you could go to the Target Center and watch an opposing team play hard for 4 quarters and still lose? When was the last time that sort of try-hard opponent was halfway decent? Once again, I think you need to go back to the days of pre-Witt KG to find play this good from everybody's favorite team of zombies.
Speaking of zombie ball, this team has been a sight to behold of late and they are doing it with offense, situational defense, and superior rebounding. Your Minnesota Timberwolves now sport the league's 23rd best offense (104.6) and defense (109.2). Since Christmas (the birth of this current streak of zombie-based play) the Wolves have scored above 100 points in 7 out of 9 contests. They have gone over 120 twice. In their current 5 game streak they are averaging 109.2 ppg. They are shooting .461 from the field and .398 from beyond the arc. Best of all, they are murdering opponents on the offensive glass, pulling down over 15 Oreb/game and holding their opponents to a far lesser rate.
Last night against the Bucks were outrebounded on the offensive glass 11-6. In just over 22 minutes of play Kevin Love accounted for 12 rebounds. I have been saying it all year long: collecting their own misses and limiting opponents from collecting their own is the number one way a crappy defensive team can even things out against superior opponents. Basketball is a game of net possessions and rebounding is a fantastic equalizer for a certain poor-shooting, questionable-defending team of zombies.
Let's wrap this up with some bullet points:
- The Bucks have a very interesting announcing team. Last night they talked about +/-, rebound rates, and even took a shot at Pat Reusse's ridiculous pre-season column about Love. All night long they had solid takes about the action that were void of the blatant homerism found with Hanny & J-Pete. J-Pete has the insight to make it work like this on a nightly basis.
- It would have been nice to see exactly why Kevin McHale was ejected. They didn't show this on the Bucks' broadcast.
- Andrew Bogut scored on a LeBron crab dribble in the 1st. NBA officiating is still an inconsistent joke.
- Brian Cardinal really knows how to play. Latest example: In the 1st he hit an open 3 and on the next possession baited his defender on a shot fake and hit a wide-open Mike Miller for a 3 ball.
- How good was UCLA with Russell Westbrook, Luc Mbah a Moute, and Kevin Love? How good would they have been this year when added to Daren Collison and Jrue Holliday?
- Rodney Carney and Sebastian Telfair get the game balls. Bassy had another one of his high speed pace-setting performances and Carney went 4-6 from beyond the arc. When Carney is hitting from beyond the arc, he's a tough assignment.
- Will the Wolves start up the 4th Quarter Foye marketing campaign again?
Wrapping things up, midway through the 3rd quarter Al Jefferson appeared to be well on his way to having one of his haywired offensive performances that we have talked about on this site numerous times. He was forcing up nonsensical shots into triple coverage while guys like Miller, Foye, Carney and Ryan Gomes were standing open beyond the arc. It was brutal. The offense literally came to a grinding halt. Thankfully, assistant coach Jerry Sichting pulled a McHale, called a TO, and got the offense back in motion. When Big Al fouled out late in the 4th, Love came in (and played solid d on Bogut BTW; much better than what Al offered) and Al cheered from the bench. We talk a lot on this site about his scowls and his all-too-out-in-the-open propensity to yell at his fellow players, but Al was the first guy off the bench to celebrate after the final buzzer sounded. He went right to Love. Perhaps the scowls had a bit to do with a certain former coach. Speaking of whom, the thinly veiled under-the-bus throwing has begun:
Somebody told McHale after practice one day that he doesn't seem much like a coach on the sidelines because he doesn't yell at his players.
"I would never do it," he told reporters. "I don't think that's how you do it. If you have something to say to people, if we have things to say to each other, we say it face to face, man to man and you guys never hear about it. That's the way it should be."
Until later.
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I would agree that I really liked the Bucks announcing crew. You get so used to watching terrible help defense that it’s actually startling to hear new faces watch and comment on how bad it is. It was almost all they were talking about during the first half.
They did have one small moment of homerism when they claimed that the Bucks wouldn’t trade Mbah a Moute for any other rookie (specifically Love), but even then they corrected themselves almost immediately and claimed they were only saying that to underscore how valuable Mbah a Moute has been to the team.
I also mentioned this in the game thread, but I felt so cheated when I saw that Jeff Grayson and Mike McCollow (sp?) were the halftime announcers for the Bucks. How long has this been going on? Do they do this for anyone else?
by Blakeley on Jan 11, 2009 11:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
speaking of help D
If one were to identify a turning point in the 2nd half, I wonder if it wouldn’t simply be the moment at which Cardinal entered the game – it was incredible how much better the defence became from that moment. It’s incredible what having one really smart help defender on the floor can do for a team, it’s really infectious.
by plinytheelder on Jan 11, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Love your point about Jefferson.
Another instance of this was when Foye hit one of his 2 late 3s. After the ball went in, the Bucks took a timeout, and the camera showed the Wolves bench, where Jefferson was the first guy up cheering; then it showed Foye, on his way to the bench, every bit as excited as Jefferson. Nice to see.
Also, just to add to your point about Carney and Telfair, they both had excellent defensive possessions right at the end. With the Wolves up 1, Bogut gets the ball in the low post, and is backing down Love. Telfair showed just enough to get Bogut to pass the ball up to Ridnour at the top of the key, and was able to recover and force Ridnour into a pretty low pct floater. Unfortunately Telfair then went for the layup instead of pulling the ball out…but after he made one of his fts, Carney played excellent ball D on Redd, again forcing him into a low pct shot at the buzzer. Really nice to see…especially as this constitutes an in-game adjustment of sorts: the Wolves’ D was horrible for long stretches of the game. Nice to see them not give up on themselves like they’d have done a month or two ago.
by plinytheelder on Jan 11, 2009 11:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You hate to rag on a guy while he's down...
…but Carney is playing Brewer’s minutes with style right now and you really have to wonder if this is registering in the front office. They need a defensively minded guy between the 2 and 3 and who is an athlete and…well, here’ s hoping Brewer fully recovers and picks up where he left off because Carney is doing his job.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 11, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewer needs to learn to make the corner three...
… that Carney was making last night. Bruce Bowen makes it, and it’s helped keep him on the floor for the last decade. Carney’s ability to make it was probably the key factor in last night’s win. How deflating is it when the ball gets swung around the perimeter to an open Corey Brewer, and he misses that corner shot? I hope he gets to do a lot of work on his shooting while he’s out, because we need his defense. It looks to me like Corey is easily a better defender than Gomes or Carney, but he’s a liability on offense.
Btw, Bassy should be congratulated for making some big shots last night. If he can make those shots consistently, he’ll be our starter for a long time.
by Shogun on Jan 11, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love for the Wolves
To figure out a way to get both Carney and Brewer on the floor for 10-15 minutes a game next year. Put one of them on the point guard and the other on the best wing shooter, and watch the chaos ensue.
by McCleak on Jan 11, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shhhh!
One of the underdiscussed problems this organization has is their habit of re-upping ANY of their players who show a pulse. Trenton Hassell, for example, then; Craig Smith, for example, now. I really want to see them get over this, as they really need to get their roster more manageable. Roster spots are valuable. I think they should let every guy walk this year.
I understand that you’re not necessarily advocating a Carney deal. Just that if he keeps having games like this periodically, my fear is that they’ll sign him even if he causes a logjam (just like Smith).
Good to see him do well, though. I might actually like him a little better than Brewer, just not enough to lock him up.
by jianfu on Jan 11, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's the re-upping that's the problems, it's the years
Resigning Gomes? Yes. Resigning Gomes for 5 years? Not so much. Also, Carney will be restricted next year, I believe. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with reupping him for another year.
by McCleak on Jan 11, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think they tie up too many roster spots, often with fairly duplicate players, or at least duplicate positions. I know they make a big deal out of Gomes’ and Brewer’s versatilty, but Gomes lacks the size to be an effective 4 and Brewer lacks the offense and handles to be a 2. So they’re both essentially 3s. Considering Carney is essentially a duplicate of Brewer (with maybe more strength and better, though still marginal, shooting), I just don’t see the upside of bringing him back (short of trading Brewer, maybe).
Or, considering by the time they’re on the clock with Miami’s pick, a guy like Tyler Smith might be there—a guy with similar size, athleticism, and defense as Brewer and Carney—but with a better offensive game than those two, I don’t see it.
ESPN.com says Carney’s unrestricted, btw.
by jianfu on Jan 11, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Size
Love as first PF off bench= good
Love as first C off bench= very very bad
Skiles drew up (one of) the last plays for Bogut against Love. Bogut expected to be able to back him down but Loves strength surprised him. If Bogut was even slightly more offensively gifted he would know all he has to is face up after the dribble and shoot over Love. He didnt even get double teamed.
Also this win came after yet another Celtics loss (a beasting by the Lebrons) coincidence? I think not.
by WhaHuh on Jan 11, 2009 12:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Favorite zombie snack?
Braaaaiiiinnnnnssss!!!
Favorite zombie GM?
Danny Ainnnnngggggeeeee!!!
Favorite fruit?
Plantaaaaiiinnssss!!!
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 11, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Favorite Zombie Baseball HOF Hopeful....
Tim Raaaaaiiiiinnnesssss!!!
by jianfu on Jan 11, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm....
The Wolves currently have the 7th worst record in the league (11-25). Here’s who’s below them:
Grizzlies (11-26)
Warriors (10-28)
Clippers (8-28)
Kings (8-29)
Wizards (7-29)
Thunder (6-32)
The Wolves are within shouting distance of the:
Knicks (12-22)
Bobcats (14-24)
Bulls (16-21)
Raptors (16-21)
What’s my point? Horray for mediocrity?
No. I’m just pointing out that suddenly it’s not out-of-bounds to suggest the Wolves might finally relinquish their pick to the Clippers this summer (it’s top 10 protected). And you know what? It looks like this may be the year you’d like to see them to do it. Unless they can land Harden or Rubio (whom you’re probably going to have move up to get to, anyway) then honestly, let them have it. And the beauty part is they’ll still have some picks to play with.
Yeah, we have a long way to go, and yeah, it’s likely the Wolves are going to regress. But look again at all those teams. Are there any you can say are markedly better than the Wolves? And also, while the Wolves probably aren’t as good as they’re looking now, they were clearly underperforming under Wittman. Maybe it all balances out.
Or what if they make a move to add a Gerald Wallace or Joakim Noah, a fit-like-a-glove player to address a deficiency? What if Miller gets his scoring groove back?
Again, we’ll have to wait and see. But after spending much of the season speculating about those top 2-3 draft spots; it suddenly seems conceivable they can drop that pick on the Clips, and if so it really wouldn’t hurt them that badly.
by jianfu on Jan 11, 2009 2:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is Big Al a 'black hole'?
I was lucky to have my best seat ever at last night’s Wolves game, fourth row near midcourt. I was sitting next to a man who groaned whenever Big Al would force a shot through double & triple teaming, instead of throwing it back out to the perimeter. It went so far as to having this fan phone someone several times during the game to give updates on the score and Big Al’s current status. True, Al was 4 for 11 at half with only one assist (a three-pointer from Sebastian Telfair), but where is there help underneath for him, either? Love’s defense on Bogut at the end of the game has been discussed here, but it was just one play. Bogut looked like an all-star for most of the game (much of it against Al). What do you think?
by ogishkemuncie on Jan 11, 2009 6:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
To be fair to Al...
….the perimeter players haven’t exactly been lighting it up this year and he was the main focus of Witt-Ball for a while so this new stylee of play has to qualify as something of a shock to the system. Also, it’s hard to run cutters at the guy because defenses are collapsing into the lane anyway. That being said, inside/out is the way to go for this team and I think the answer is to run Love as sort of a point forward around the FT line.
I think part of the problem with Bogut’s performance is that a) he is close to an All Star performer at his position and b) Al was left to defend him on his own. They didn’t run any double teams at the guy and he took advantage of it.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 11, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AYO
duz any1 know if Love actually pulled down dat rebound in de picture above mayn? if he did….MAYN HOL UP!
MAYN HOL UP!
by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 11, 2009 7:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Big Al's defense
Ogish – You a BWCA guy? This will be my 25th consecutive summer in BWCA / Quetico. But I must got to Al’s defense.
I spent the last 16 minutes of last night’s game on the floor behind the Bucks basket. Bogut was no All-Star. Al’s D wasn’t great, but Bogut was less than stellar. Love did fine on the 2-3 trips down the court after Al fouled out.
Regarding Al’s demeanor two quick items:
I recall hearing from WOlves staffers that just before the Opener, the entire Wolves staff had a dinner. AL picked up the tab. Ticket never did.
Second, last night I was a t pregame warmups. My son got to be ball boy. Big fun. Al came out towards the end – maybe 5:45 and got into it big time with Coach JB Bickerstaff. They played a game where my son would rebound, pass it to a different assistant who would pass it int o Al in the block. Bickerstaff played aggressive D. Game to 10, a make by Al was a point for him, a miss was a point for JB. They played a game on each block. They were yuckin’ it up and talking some pretty good trash. Every time Al called foul, Maddog shooting free throws would agree with Al’s call. Al really seemed like he was having funa dn working pretty hard.
by A.K. Agikamik on Jan 11, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Solid stuff A.K....
…the in house take is much appreciated. Also, you gave me an idea for a game thread talker: toughest portage in BWCA. I took one north of Gunflint by Skoop lake that wasn’t very fun. Of course that had less to do with the terrain as it did the freezing rain.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 11, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the McHale getting ejected thing was a good one. Wouldn’t it give some extra confidence to the Wolves they got to beat their first “decent” opponent in this streak without their coach? Also, it showed yet again McHale supporting his players.
Beater of the early Thabeet drum
by Wim (Belgium) on Jan 12, 2009 6:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
In one of the articles about the incident...
…Miller gave him a high-five on the way out.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 12, 2009 7:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see what happened,
I only saw the 2nd half of that game, but it seems to me that when coaches get kicked out so early in the game, it’s because they want to get kicked out. It looks to me like it’s really kind of hard to get kicked out on 2 straights tech.s – I’d guess that it’s often a ploy by coaches to get their teams fired up, force them to work together, instill an “us against the world” mentality, etc. If that’s what McHale was aiming at it seems to have worked, the Wolves (judging from the boxscore) were putrid before he left, much better after.
by plinytheelder on Jan 12, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh by the way Wim
looks like there’s an afternoon game coming up, you might finally get to see a game! ;)
by plinytheelder on Jan 12, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
excellent!
Beater of the early Thabeet drum
by Wim (Belgium) on Jan 15, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Last sentence makes sense
especially since McHale can play “good cop” counterpart to his coaching predecessor.
by PoorDick on Jan 12, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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