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Miami @ Minnesota


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Tonight is the big test of the Wolves' recent success. Either we prove that we can beat .500+ teams, or we prove that we can't.... yet.

I'll be at the game. Keep it clean and friendly. Mayn.

 

 

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yep

atdhe.net has a stream too….as does homertv.net

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 7:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a Prob RCollin

Are any of them Hanny and J-Pete SNP?

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 7:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

homertv.net

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

I’m liking these Miami commentators

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Al is in full black hole mode

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can hardly watch Miller play anymore

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 7:27 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Be Honest

If We can Trade Mike Miller to a Place Like Cleveland for Boobie Gibson or Delonte West…GET IT DONE ASAP!!!!!!!

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 7:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are the heat

a particularly good rebounding team? They sure look good so far. Looked like a bit of a push by Haslem on Smith but the refs aren’t going to call that very often.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 7:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not Really a Rebounding Squad

They Really Dont have Much Size down Low besides Beasley whos 6’9….Blount is 7’0 and he does play…Jamal Magliore is 6’11..He Doesnt Play… For Guys that Do play…Joel Anthony is 6’9 and Udonis Haslem is 6’8…

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 7:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think a new question for the Wolves . . .

. . . is will they be able to re-sign Cardinal for anything less than the mid-level exception?

by PoorDick on Jan 13, 2009 7:34 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How much better does this team look without Al out there tonight?

He really needs to learn the ball movement thing.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 7:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup

let’s hope they can take advantage of this zone…I don’t know why the heat would go into that with this lineup

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 7:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even though we are on a 5 game win streak

Fans Still stoop Low badly…Zgoda had this in his preview tonight

Already, someone in the first deck’s upper reaches to bellowing about Kevin McHale trading Chalmers for "pocket change.

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 7:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wolves look good

Nice Balance with Love, Carney, and Foye in there… Cardinal is surprisingly effective

by DR_JPK on Jan 13, 2009 7:44 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF is Big Al doing out there tonight?

A 1/2 court ally-oop? He should sit for a while after that one.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 7:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know...

that play by Love on Beasley was pretty nice

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 7:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he can't commit fouls....

….he gave Love a forearm shiver on the last play down the court….not a foul.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 7:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's real good

I don’t know how you guard the guy.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 8:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he is absurdly good

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 8:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm pretty sure he could cold...

….take a running start at Brian Cardinal and kick him square in the nuts and it would be waved off as hustle.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 8:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i confess

some part of me wants to see that in the second half

by secretarykissinger on Jan 13, 2009 8:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it happened to a guy i knew in high school...

….d-wade didn’t kick him in the nuts but during a gym class game of soccer a girl took a running kick, missed the ball and caught him square in the jewels. His right testicle was twisted around and shoved upwards. I’ve never heard a more terrible noise.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 8:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmm

I don’t know about that foul, even if Foye did leave his feet.

Man if I’m Miami I’m happy…thoroughly outplayed and not down by much.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 8:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bullshit call of the year

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now that is fucked up

foul on Carney?

inadvertent whistle?

Carney should be pissed. He played great D.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how is that a jump ball..

…nba officiating, it’s fantastic

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Before the block, Love went all the way out to guard the perimeter than ran back to the opposite post to make a block

by oblivionspocket on Jan 13, 2009 8:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

marcus banks!

finding value in his new role as anti-tobacco spokesperson

by secretarykissinger on Jan 13, 2009 8:07 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mario chalmers would have done it but....

i feel like i’ve made that joke a thousand times on this board. it is hereby retired

by secretarykissinger on Jan 13, 2009 8:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miami Heat – Minnesota Timberwolves

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by milleniumprince on Jan 13, 2009 8:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just watching.

Hoping Smith and Jefferson are yanked.

by RCollin on Jan 13, 2009 8:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

Bring in the Zombies: Love, Carney…

That was nice alleyoop by Foye.

by jianfu on Jan 13, 2009 8:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eating

I wish I could just eat in peace and tell the game MAYN HOL UP!

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 8:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Craig

….that was ugly.

by Pants_ on Jan 13, 2009 8:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

terrible team D

not for lack of effort, but they’re confused…both guys doing the same thing every time they double, or even when they’re in the same area.

Get Cardinal out there!

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 8:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's nice to see

all those early predictions about how killer we’d be from three-point territory coming true…

by secretarykissinger on Jan 13, 2009 8:47 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

now if they can just get Miller going

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 8:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

indeed, but at the same time

i’m increasingly struck by how quick miller can be driving and moving the ball around and doing other things than camping out for his shots. of course whether all this restless activity produces much is another question

by secretarykissinger on Jan 13, 2009 8:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let’s hope Miller joins the party at some point tonight. He’s been set up real well:his shot’s just not falling.

by jianfu on Jan 13, 2009 8:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know.

Al played the entire 3rd quarter. Love will now play the first 5-7 min. of the 4th before Jefferson comes back.

by RCollin on Jan 13, 2009 8:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice move by Telfair at the end there

totally froze that guy

By the way why does anyone ever go under a screen when guarding Wade? Wouldn’t you rather have him shoot than penetrate? The Wolves are going over the screen every time.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 8:49 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zombies are to brains as Kevin Love is to rebounds.

by jianfu on Jan 13, 2009 8:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dangit...

switch the order of rebounds and Love… you get the idea.

by jianfu on Jan 13, 2009 8:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Foye has already played 38 minutes, Bassy has played only 27

Bassy has great conditioning and endurance and can easily play 40 minutes a night. Miller on the other hand can’t even make free throws right now.

by roundhouse on Jan 13, 2009 9:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed on the great conditioning...

just saying that I don’t think he’d come out yet in the 2nd half? tough to see him playing the entire half.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't see all of the 3rd quarter so i didn't know that.

Makes sense then, I just wish we had someone that could be playing instead of Miller, who is worthless

by roundhouse on Jan 13, 2009 9:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah it's too bad

but he’s way out of his rhythm right now

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They SOOOOOO....

….need to trade him + whoever for the largest expiring deal they can get. I like Wally’s deal.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Miller

will come around at some point, don’t you? He’s just got to get a stretch where he’s not getting injured all the time, can find some kind of rhythm.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Him and Craig Smith need to be traded ASAP

for either a defensive center, athletic wing, or expirings

by roundhouse on Jan 13, 2009 9:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heh…funny commercial

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 8:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dumb foul by Foye

man the Wolves have nothing going to the basket this whole half

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4th quarter Foye!!!

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who would have thought at the beginning of the year we'd have dueling...

…“4th quarter Foye!!” chants?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:07 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ops

didn’t mean to capitalize that last love hehe

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Wade just kick Cardinal in the nuts?

And they called it?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How on earth is that a foul on Love...

…straight up and down. Sweet Jesus I hate NBA reffing.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good lord....

..they just make up calls for the guy. He literally jumps into people.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this has to be

Love’s worst passing game of the year

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you missed the 2-3 makes in the 1st 1/2

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not a good game to make that statement

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as he's made a few

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haven't seen the whole game

but the two outlet passes i did see were both turnovers

by roundhouse on Jan 13, 2009 9:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He had a highlight reel one to carney for a 2 handed flush...

…as well as a few to hit the PG in stride beyond 1/2 court. It’s been on full display tonight. The good and bad. Mostly the good.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice to see you around here again . . .

. . . you seem to disappear when the Timberwolves are doing well.

by PoorDick on Jan 13, 2009 9:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm guessing South Dakota

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn...

…my 2nd choice. I’m going with Council Bluffs or Sioux City. I’m from Ames.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hear ya...

…I go down there to pheasant hunt quite a bit.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The dog in the picture is my hunting buddy

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's trained but he still runs around like a clown when not out on the hunt

He’s always in the trash. LOVES food.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Loves it so much..

…he ate 12 oz of baker’s chocolate the other day and we had to make him puke it up. Stupid dog.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

indeed.....

…I can’t think of another creature where I’d scoop up vomit off the floor for than that frickin’ thing. He’s literally in my dog house after the chocolate nonsense. Earlier this year he ate a pine cone and it blocked him up to the tune of a 1,200 dollar procedure. He’s lucky he’s like a big teddy bear and that he barks at anyone who comes near the house.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No offense, but could you

head back to Iowa some time in March of ‘10, particularly if the Wolves are in the hunt for the 8th playoff spot? There seems to be some correlation between the team doing well while you’re in the southward state (heh heh).

by PoorDick on Jan 13, 2009 10:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW:

With all the Miami love for Love I thought I’d revisit our season preview predictions for ROY:

Wim:

1. Greg Oden
2. Derrick Rose
3. Michael Beasley
4. Kevin Love

Auswolf:

(i) Oden
     (ii) Westbrook
     (iii) Beasley
     (iv) Gallinari
     (v) Rose
     (vi) Love

Peter W:

Oden (if healthy)
Rose
Beasley
Mayo
Westbrook/Love
Bayless
Hickson
Thompson

Me:

Beasley
Darrell Arthur
Kevin Love
Marreese Speights
Jason Thompson

Pants:

Beasley
someone not in the top 10 picks
Love
Oden
Westbrook

MSA:

Oden, Beasley, Mayo, Love – not to imply the trade was bad, I just think OJ will get more opportunities to score

McCleak:

3) Love will finish 3rd, behind Greg Oden and Michael Beasley. He might very well play better than Oden, however.

DR_JPK: Love gets it or sucks

Dave W:

(3) Kevin Love will finish 3rd behind Oden and Beasley. He has a shot at the 2nd spot but Beasley’s higher profile and raw stats will likely out-do him.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:17 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I forgot Sterno:

3) Beasley wins the ROY. No one is going into a better situation, and Oden will not be an offensive powerhouse, which will hurt him in the ROY voting. If Love stays healthy, he finishes in the top 5

Solid call on Oden.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ruh-oh....

….Heat announcers just said Foye/Roy swap suddenly not so lopsided.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Rookie of the Year Projection

No i’m not going with the Glitzy picks like OJ Mayo and Derrick Rose…Or the Homer Pick with Kevin Love….Call Me Crazy…But i think the Rookie of the year is BROOK LOPEZ.

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's this year's...

….Al Horford.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And if folks want to complain about Love...

..he’s the missed pick.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beasley just doesn't look comfortable coming from the perimeter.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wade is capable of fouling!!!

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that mistake by Telfair...

is just like the one he made last game, going for a layup instead of pulling the ball out. You have to know when not to run.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why give out player of the game right now?

Yea it’s Foye if the wolves win but if the Heat win shouldn’t it be Wade?

by roundhouse on Jan 13, 2009 9:22 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn Al

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:22 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn Foye too

for going over the screen

I have to think he’s following orders on this.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why is Al in this f'ing game?

Love gets that rebound. I shit you not. Terrible. he FUBAR’d the last offensive play and he sucked it up on the boards.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:26 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What. The. Shit.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:27 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FOUL!!!!!!!!!!!

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 9:27 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How much more could Wade foul him?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looked like he hit his shooting hand?

anyways you’re better placed to see than me, I’m watching on a 3-inch computer screen

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh

this should be for roundhouse’s comment below

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was the exact same play

for which Foye was called for a foul on Wade earlier. Perfect play by Foye. Fucking refs.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck David Stern and Fuck those Refs

Thats Absolute Bullshit…Even Lebron gets called there…

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok...

….after seeing it again Foye sold it and it shouldn’t have been a foul. Wade made contact after the ball was out. Good call.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:30 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They still should have called the fould

as a make up all for the BS reffing we had to put up with during this game.

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 9:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

echoes of the old foot-on-the-line foye anyway

nevertheless an encouraging performance by him all told

by secretarykissinger on Jan 13, 2009 9:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wolves made too many mistakes down the stretch

Bad Turnovers by Telfair and Love, gotta play smarter at the end of games

by DR_JPK on Jan 13, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good game....

…quite entertaining. Wade played excellent D on the last 2 possessions and McHale didn’t put Love in for rebounding when beasley got the rebound and on the last 3 possessions.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blame

Mike Miller

28 min
1-6 from 3 (all wide open)
1-7 overall
1-3 FT

Plus, a terrible box out at the end of the game.

by Just A Fan on Jan 13, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That Has to be put on McHale....

HOW IN THE FUCK do you not have Kevin Love or at least Big Al down low on that Free Throw where beasley got the rebound….MIKE FUCKING MILLER ARE YOU KIDDING ME??

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blame

Al Jefferson laid an egg tonight. Worst game I’ve ever seen him play and I bet he’ll be the first one to say so… That turnover at the end was really bad.

by DR_JPK on Jan 13, 2009 9:34 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed....

….I’ve never seen him play that bad. is anyone still watching the miami feed? shawn marion is giving an interview and i literally can’t understand a word he’s saying. not an accent thing; he just talks so damn fast

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But Pliny

to Put him in there down low is unexcuseable.

by Tony_O on Jan 13, 2009 9:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree -

but the thing is, the Wolves had no timeouts left, and needed all their 3-pt shooters in. That means they have to take either Jefferson or Love out.

If they have timeouts remaining, they can get the rebound, call timeout, then insert Miller.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think that's a solid take...

…Big Al had an off night. McHale made the right moves down the stretch if you go by the percentages. You have to have your best player and best 3 point shooter on the floor and Love and Bassy threw away 2 passes down the stretch. After I have my head screwed back on straight after this one I think he played it right.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let us all not forget

about Bassy’s errant pass late in the fourth on the break to Carney.

by RCollin on Jan 13, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah if we're handing out blame

there’s a lot of legit targets.

even though i still don’t think he was the man to be trying to block out on that last shot i think calls for a miller trade are overdoing it. agreed with pliny’s simultaneous comment below

by secretarykissinger on Jan 13, 2009 9:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just want to trade him for cap space....

….even if he was the 2nd best player on this team, I’d be for the trade if they could get a big expiring contract back.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that just shifts the pressure on the incompetent front office

instead of experimenting with ways to get him producing better. what those would be i have no idea, but for god’s sake we waited 2 years to see foye play like this, lets give miller more thana couple of weeks.

by secretarykissinger on Jan 13, 2009 9:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he's most valueable as cap space for a sign and trade or free agent....

….Marvin Williams, Trevor Ariza, AK47, Gerald Wallace, or Caron Butler.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed...

….Shaddy is worth about negative cookies right now. I don’t know what that means, but he’s worth it.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good night guys

On the positive side, Al played terrible, Wade played great, and the wolves lost a heartbreaker. They are definitely improving….

by DR_JPK on Jan 13, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

solid take

we’re finally able to watch 4 quarters of good ball

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

I was just saying to my wife how much nicer this is to watch than all those 30-pt losses in Nov.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think we're hanging Miller out to dry too quickly.

The guy’s been one of the best shooters in the game for a long time. He’ll get his stroke back, just needs to find a rhythm.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know he can still shoot....

…i just want him to do it for cleveland in exchange for Wally (+ cardinal on the Wolves’ end)

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JJ Hickson?

If they’d even trade him.

by RCollin on Jan 13, 2009 9:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't even ask...

…they just need expiring contracts for Miller + Cardinal.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess.

It’d be nice to at least try and snag a nice talent like him, though. In playing with the trade machine, Miller + Collins for Wally + Lorenzen Wright works. Both expirings.

by RCollin on Jan 13, 2009 9:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep..

….if they can move Miller they’re the big dogs in this off-season. they’ll have 20+ mil below the cap

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

20+ mil + 4 possible 1st rounders = fun

My ultimate hope is that they trade for AK47 + get lucky in the lotto with Rubio. If they get lucky they should contact Utah and offer them all the other picks + anyone but Love/Jefferson/Foye for AK.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't I read something that Rubio wasn't coming until '10?

I know it wasn’t 100%, but from what I read, it seemed like they were going to wait another year. I would LOVE the AK with Love/Jefferson/Foye. I would like Jennings with that group, too, because I think he’s got a huge huge upside and is a legit PG.

by BDavige on Jan 13, 2009 11:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually I know of a cap clearing trade that Glen Taylor would LOVE

Now that is looks like Miles’ contract is gonna be put back on the Blazers, they aren’t going to have the cap room they thought.

If they have any interest in Mike Miller, we could ship him and Collins to Portland for Raef Lafrentz + player/asset. I’m pretty sure that insurance is paying like 2/3 of Raef’s contract or something like that. That would make Glen happy.

by roundhouse on Jan 13, 2009 9:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

insurance is prorated...

…and would cover pretty much the rest of the year….I’d still make that trade as long as they threw in Batum.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it was in a Chad Ford chat

that insurance doesn’t transfer in a trade…. is that not true?

by Pants_ on Jan 13, 2009 9:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dave...

….at Blazers Edge just had something about it. www.blazersedge.com

Norsktroll, are you out there? She’ll know too.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this might be a stupid question

but what would Miller bring to the table in Cleveland that Wally doesn’t?

by Pants_ on Jan 13, 2009 9:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm just guessing

that given a choice between Wally and Miller, most teams would take Miller, especially with how poorly Wally played in the playoffs last year.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give Miller a couple of weeks without being injured,

and he’ll be putting up solid numbers. Guy’s a player.

by plinytheelder on Jan 13, 2009 9:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

right on

looking forward to more discussion later — good night, gents!

by secretarykissinger on Jan 13, 2009 9:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ditto

.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 13, 2009 9:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, it was a fun game. I thought the Wolves controlled the pace well throughout most of it, but the Heat stuck around. And when things grinded to a halt at the end, that was it. Al’s turnover after backing down low for, oh, 20 seconds or so was a killer. He’ll have better games, of course, although Miami’s a team you’d think Jefferson could destroy.

Another good game from Foye. I’m coming around to him, even if his scoring will likely come back to earth a little. The Dude was really looking to RUN tonight.

I think trading Miller makes sense. I think he’s a good player, and his overall game’s always been a bit underrated. I think he’s an ideal 6th man, and with the way Foye’s been playing, that’s Miller’s ideal position currently on the Wolves.

Trouble is, the Wolves aren’t the type of team right now that needs a 6th man making $9 million.

by jianfu on Jan 13, 2009 10:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think ya'all saw the same things I did at the game...

- couldn’t believe the star calls for Wade
- Miller and Al looked bad
- Telfair and Love had VERY costly errors down the stretch
- Randy IS actually starting to make the Roy trade look better (not good, but better)
- Cardinal is a better, less goofy version of Mad Dog

Also, 247 comments in a GameThread is something to be proud of. You guys and gals are a great group of Wolves fans. I’m proud to be a part of it.

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by wyn on Jan 13, 2009 10:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good crowd tonight, wyn?

Appeared that way on TV. Fewer empty seats; some non-jumbotron-provoked, in-action standing O’s.

by jianfu on Jan 13, 2009 11:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was a pretty good crowd

Wade got the biggest ovation during pre-game.

After going to games in Portland, Golden State and Chicago in the last few years, it’s become painfully obvious how quiet the Target Center is, though. I don’t expect us to equal those other arenas, but even during timeouts in the 4th quarter, it’s pretty quiet.

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by wyn on Jan 14, 2009 9:58 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Jefferson:

I didn’t hear about this during the game but it turns out he got 7 stitches to close a cut over his eye at halftime! Guess I’d probably play pretty poorly too if that happened to me.

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