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The Big Piranha

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We really need to start coming up with a good nickname for this front court duo.  Hell, we need a good nickname for Kevin Love, because K-Love just isn't going to cut it in the long run.  That being said, and before we start figuring things out, it's time for a victory dance:


BTW: while Googling "thriller dance" I came across this website.  Who knew that there was a group seeking to organize an annual worldwide simultaneous zombie Thriller dance?  Who knew that on October 25th, 2008 a record 4,179 people from around the world participated in a Thrill the World event?  Did you know that there is a "learn the zombie dance" script? Here's a taste:

March Booty Swim video

(forward) *shoulder step nothing step *shoulder step *shoulder step
(back) *shoulder step nothing step *shoulder step *shoulder step
(step) booty bounce (together) booty bounce
(step) booty bounce (together) booty bounce
swim together swim jump (hold)
swim together swim jump

Wolves dancers, let's get on this ASAP.  Sigourney, Ashley, Chrissa, Lexi...make this happen.  BTW: we have lots of new readers and you can read about the origins of winning zombie ball here.

Anywho, speaking of obscure information, I watched the game on League Pass last night and was treated to the surprisingly solid Eddie Johnson as a color commentator.  Eddie spent his college career at Illinois (playing against Jerry Sichting's Purdue squad, no less) and he had an interesting story about knowing Brian Cardinal from his childhood.  Sure enough, Cardinal grew up in orange and blue:

Growing up in Tolono, Ill., Cardinal could afford to play with such reckless abandon. His father, Rod, has been the head basketball trainer for the University of Illinois for 24 years. Cardinal believed he'd one day play for the Illini, getting taped up and iced down by his dad. He was a ball boy on the 1989 Illinois team that went to the Final Four and he learned to shoot a basketball at Assembly Hall.

The Suns broadcast also featured a 1/2 segment with Tom Chambers, he of dunking-over-Marc-Jackson fame. Getting around to the game...

Who here remembers what Love told Al Jefferson before the start of the season?  "You're going to love playing with me."   For a while there, the confidence found in this statement was lost to missed bunnies, short rotations, massive defensive issues, and all-around rookie blunders. During the recent win streak, the confidence which allowed a rookie who had never played a minute in the league to say this to his new team's best player is clearly back in full force.  In his last 10 games he is averaging 9.7 points and 9.2 rebounds (3 Oreb) in less than 22 minutes of action per contest.  He now has the 2nd highest rookie PER and his team finally has more wins than Memphis.  On the other hand, O.J. Mayo's last 10 have seen him log an insane 39.9 mpg while shooting .412 from the field (.316 from 3) while scoring 17.8 ppg with very little else.  There was no way he was going to maintain his early-season run.  He simply couldn't maintain his 3p% and his mid-range jumper %, and he can't make up for their downturn because he doesn't get to the line, limit his turnovers, or get a lot of assists and rebounds.  He is still a fantastic rookie.  This is not me crowing about the deal.  This is perspective.  Mayo is a scorer.  He will likely always be a better scorer than Love.  However, I think there is a good chance that he will not always be a better player than #42. 

Last night Love put up 13 points and 14 rebounds in 26 minutes.  What the stat sheet doesn't show is that he impacted the game in just about every way imaginable.  The guy is a possession extending/generating machine.  Aside from the 7 Oreb and 2 steals, Love frequently hit Sebastian Telfair in stride on a 1/2 court outlet pass (it's not just the bombs that are important), he got under Matt Barnes' skin drawing a technical and free throws for a shot, he baited Amare Stoudemire into a foul with the anchor rebound trick, he played solid defense on the Big Cactus down the stretch, and he got his hands on several loose balls that were either batted away from opponents or to teammates.  The guy is simply a blast to watch and he is already showing signs of being the type of upper-level glue guy that can fill in all the gaps so that guys like Big Al and Randy Foye can go about doing what they do best.  The guy is like a basketball version of Joe Mauer and Nick Punto (on a good year) wrapped into one.  It is beyond baffling that the Wolves marketing department hasn't rolled out a Love-specific ad campaign.  The guy does all of the cliched little things that Minnesota sports fans can't seem to get enough of.  Here's my suggestion for a nickname: The Big Piranha. (For fans who don't know about the Twinkies and little piranhas, click here.)

This post is getting kind of long but there are two more things that I'd like to point out.  First, Randy Foye is becoming the type of player opposing teams will have to game plan for in the 4th quarter.  I know it seems like a gimmick and it hasn't been true until this post-Xmas stretch, but the 4th Quarter Foye stuff is looking more and more like a pattern and less and less like a fluke.  The guy daggered the Suns last night putting the Wolves ahead for good with a cold hearted jumper.  As a fan watching the game, if the tilt is on the line I want the ball in his hands.  Al and Love can punish the opponents down low for 3 1/2 quarters; Bassy and Rodney Carney can run up and down all the want for 40 minutes; and Cardinal and Ryan Gomes can provide all the gritty forward action they can until the game gets down to the last few possessions.  When this happens, they need to get the ball the hell to Foye. 

Second, I'd like to point out something from our excellent sister site Beyond the Sun:

Matt: I should have listened to my gut

Phx Stan: Yes Matt. You were right. I was wrong. Suns got in at 4am. OT last night and Nash was dead tired and Amare is getting worse. Rebounds might as well have been bouncing off his head for all the effort his gave

Matt: Yup

Phx Stan: Gnite

And that folks is all the recap you are going to get out of me for this game.

Most of the times you kill the Wolves. Sometimes if you aren't careful and you are lazy and you think the world should vote for you and you disrespect him and don't have the right amount of fear for him The Wolf eats you.

I think teams are still sleeping on the Wolves.  All teams have late nights.  All teams have tough travel schedules.  Minnesota came out and hit Phoenix in the mouth.  Amare didn't get the rebounds because he ran into the best rebounding duo in the league. I think it has to be something of a surprise for veteran winning teams (and opposing fans) to see what the Wolves are putting out on the floor these days.  It has nothing to do with schedules or being tired.  The Wolves are no longer a team that opponents can toy with for 3 quarters before pulling away late in the 4th.  They hustle and play up tempo.  They are getting solid guard play.  They have a low post beast. They have a guy who can play down the stretch on the perimeter.  They have the Big Piranha.  They are finally playing to their strengths and they are what they are.  They are now the 20th ranked team in Hollinger's team rankings while their point differential is back above -4 ppg (which is quite an accomplishment after Randy Wittman).  They have a higher ranked defense than the Suns and they are playing with just as much offensive efficiency as Phoenix is during their recent stretch of good play.

There is no shame in succumbing to the zombie horde. These aren't your Witt-led puppies.

For more on the game from a Phoenix perspective, check out Bright Side of the Sun and Ben's Suns Blog.

Until later.

BTW: I want to highlight an excellent point about the Heat game from Greek House over at the always-excellent WGOM:

One play that was particularly frustrating to me as a fan came in the first half. On the previous Heat possession, the refs had made a rather dubious foul call for Wade. Then, Carney reached in and cleanly stole the ball and the refs blew the whistle as if to call a foul. They then got together, realizing that they had called a bogus foul for the second consecutive possession, and eventually decided to call a jump ball. You would think they would have given it to the Wolves, but that's not what upset me. What upset me was that the whistle indicated to me that the refs were basically looking to give calls to Wade. I'm not sure how as a player you could even guard him after this, since you know that any sort of aggressive defense will likely earn you a foul call. To the refs' credit, they seemed to do a better job after this, although it did seem like he was able to get away with traveling quite a bit.

Well put.  D-Wade is a fantastic, fantastic player who is a blast to watch, but there's always that nagging feeling that he's doing it with significant assistance from the zebras.  Wade made more free throws than the Wolves attempted and there were plenty of no-calls that...well, it's frustrating to watch how the refs try and "balance" games and it kind of sucks that fans are left hoping that their team can get a player who gets the benefit of the doubt rather than simply hoping for an evenly called game.

UPDATE: I had a Suns fan email me to ask about the claim that Minnesota is playing as good or better offense than the Suns of late.  Here's where I got the info from:

While Minnesota improved on both ends over the nine-game stretch, its progress was most apparent at the offensive end. The Timberwolves rank only 24th in the league in Offensive Rating for the season, at 105.4 points per 100 possessions, but that number has increased to 114.3 of late -- about as well as the league's best offenses have scored over the course of the season.

The LA Lakers lead the league with a 113.4 ORtg.  Offense, offense, offense.  This team has to win with offense, offense, offense.  They will need to learn how to play better situational, transitional, and help defense, but offense is where this team is going to win.  I.e. there are no "should haves" with the Suns against a team that has a better DRtg over the season and is playing with an ORtg over the past 10 games that is above and beyond what the Suns have done all year.

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nice post mayn

but nah on de nickname. I on’t like Piranah’s but i love me sum Kevin Love (pause!).

i still go with “De Love Boat” to put a ne spin on de term which originated when de Vikings got der grind on wit sum broads on dat boat couple years back mayn

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 17, 2009 8:36 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'll put that on the list..

….and we’ll run a poll when we get enough suggestions.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 9:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mayn, yo sho can rite

when you’s . . . ahhh, screw it. I can’t keep it up.

Well done, SNP. A couple more additions to the latest successes:

1. Only two NBA teams have a better record over the last ten games (that doesn’t sound like many games, but it’s an eighth of a season).
2. In the Western Conference, only four “young” teams have better records this season (Portland, New Orleans, Denver(?), and Utah(?)). This is important to keep in mind when drafting/trading/signing.—sometimes, you have to build a team with an eye on your direct competition.
3. If the T’Wolves had held their billion point lead against Dallas, and Miller would have made another three against Miami, the team would be on a NINE GAME WINNING STREAK.

I know they might just be on a roll against the dregs of the NBA, and that it can all revert to Loserville in a heartbeat, and that even if they continue to play at this level they still have a long way to go. But it sure helps take the chill off of a longggggg deadly winter.

by PoorDick on Jan 17, 2009 9:06 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah great post!

Man this team is fun to watch right now. I like the “possession extending/generating machine” line. I think the announcers are almost becoming used to it, e.g. on one play he got between 2 Suns to get a hand on an offensive rebound, the ball ends up right in Jefferson’s hands who scores, JP says “great rebound and putback by Jefferson”! Still who cares as long as they’re winning!

Carney’s pretty great to watch these days too. I know he might not be here for long so I’m just enjoying him right now, he must get them 2-3 easy baskets a game (easy that is for a guy who can beat everyone down the court and fly to the rim), that’s huge.

ps I love the guy in the photo with his hands on his head, har

by plinytheelder on Jan 17, 2009 9:13 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Love's new nickname

I vote for Tapioca because he’s smooth like pudding!

by Blakeley on Jan 17, 2009 9:17 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'll put it on the list

;)

So far we have Love Boat, Tapioca, and the Big Piranha.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Question of the day

Are the wolves going to play semi-meaningful ball in March?

I know they’re 9.5 games back from the #9 spot in the west, but the 4 teams above them (Houston, Phoenix, Utah & Dallas) all have some combination of injury/age/chemistry/quality issues.

I don’t think there is any chance that we’ll catch them (Hollinger has our playoff odds at just over 1%), but realistically, this team could be 7.5 games back from #9 right now. I think it’s fair to say that if this team had been coached by someone other than Witt, we’d be more like 5 games back from a playoff spot at this point.

However, the schedule gets MUCH tougher at this point, so I think this will be relegated to the “what might have been” category, but if injuries finally catch up to the Jazz/Rockets and/or the Mavs fall apart (VERY shaky recently, never mind the fact that Cupcake has been back in the starting lineup and putting up some of the worst per-minute plus/minus this side of Shaddy), AND we can play near .500 ball, there’s a chance this could get interesting. I know: Saturday-morning daydreaming while basking in the glow of a good win on the road.

The only other observation I’d make is that I think if McHale is guilty of any serious crimes after the Foy/Roy trade (not looking SO bad right now) it’s the fact that he hired Witt. If there’s one thing that this stretch has sown, in my opinion, it’s that Witt was criminally incompetent as a coach and as a developer of players. Since he’s been gone, Bassy, Love, Foye, Gomes and Carney are all playing much better. How is that possible? At this point, it’s been too long and it’s too many guys for it to be an aberration, in my opinion. This speaks to the coach’s ability to nurture and utilize his talent, and it’s apparent that Witt was amazingly incompetent at that. It’s also clear that McHale never should have fired casey, and he certainly never should have hired/stuck with Witt. With the assets and young talent we have, I think that may have been the real problem the last 2 years, not any personnel decision.

by Sterno on Jan 17, 2009 9:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

One of the issues with Witt's term

is that it echoes of mistakes that NFL teams make all the time. “We have an offensively-skilled team. Let’s hire a defensive specialist as head coach to improve that half of the game. We’ll be unstoppable.”

Dungy in Indianapolis, Billick in Baltimore, Gruden in Tampa Bay, and Chilly right here in the Twin Cities. Yes, these teams have had success, but it’s usually because of their strengths, not improvement on weaknesses.

A little defense from Scowlin’ Al, and some improved D on the perimeter would be nice. But that’s not who these guys are. So to try to build a culture of Clamp Down among Scorers was a disaster.

by PoorDick on Jan 17, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You can't teach zombies..

….to blend in with society. They are what they are and you can’t fight their nature.

Sterno, I think what you write about the teams above them probably won’t happen this year but you correctly identify that they all have issues going forward and the Wolves can make up ground as they fall apart. Dallas shot themselves in the foot with the Harris trade, Phoenix is old and switching identities, the Rockets are…well, that has disaster written all over it, and the Jazz could be blown up by free agency. This off-season is beyond important if the Wolves are going to take that next step. What will be interesting is to see if they can do it mainly via the draft or if they need to add someone.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Definitely a pipe dream. But hopefully we at least get to “the bad team nobody wants to play when you’re battling for playoff position” status by the end of the season.

Agreed on the offseason. Somehow the Wolves have to smart/luck themselves into some top-flight talent. They can still improve at the 1, 3, 5 and bench, which should be doable with the assets/space they have, but if they are going to be legitimately competitive, they need to find a real difference-maker at one (or more) of those positions. Easier said than done, unless the lottery gods favor us.

To me, other than continuing to play near .500 ball, the best thing that could happen over the next month is to have Miller start playing better and have the Rhino play more consistently. I’d rather win than showcase those guys, but if Miller can start knocking down shots, I think people like Cleveland will have to take a hard look at him.

by Sterno on Jan 17, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The playoffs are out of reach

barring spectacular injuries to Houston, Utah, and Dallas (which could happen, but would to occur soon. Like, today). However, I think taking 9th (or a very close 10th) would speak very well of a team that employed Antoine Walker, Marko Jaric, Mark Blount, and Ricky Davis at various points over the last 15 months.

by McCleak on Jan 17, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it might be semi-meaningful ball in that they’ll be playing to be either bottom feeders or late lotto players. That will be key as the anvil that is the owed-pick-due-to-Marko-Jaric is still hanging over their heads. I really think if they don’t get lucky and land a top 3 pick, then I’d prefer they finish outside the top 10 and lose their pick. It’s a weak draft, so if given the choice between a non-Griffen/Harden/Rubio rookie and losing the pick, I’d choose the latter. Just get it over with this year and completely turn the page on that era. I just don’t think there’s going to be a lot of value in that mid-lotto area.

As for Witt, I hate to kick a guy when he’s down, but he’s clearly not going to be a head coach in the NBA ever again. As you say, it’s almost shocking how different a lot of these guys look.

by jianfu on Jan 17, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"However, I think there is a good chance that he [Mayo] will not always be a better player than #42."

This is incorrect. Right now, and probably for the rest of the season, Love is the better player. One other thing to add about Love: right now he’s not only leading the league in Oreb%, but he’s fourth in TOTAL offensive rebounds. The three guys about him (Howard, Biendrins, and Okafor) have all played about 500 minutes more than Love has. And he’s currently the 4th best offensive rebounding rookie of the shot clock era.

by McCleak on Jan 17, 2009 12:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good catch..

…I actually do believe that Love is the better player and I would have taken him straight up with the 3rd pick. I was writing this as a message to Mayo fans and I guess that’s where the confusing word use comes into play. The guy does more to help his team win than does Mayo with his. It’s that simple and it always will be.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

MArk Blount

wuz i de only wun who like Mark Blount? i mean, he played very well for a while mayn fo us wolves mayn. I woundt put him in de Ricky Davis Toine Walker group at all mayn not his fault he be gittin paper mayn. Anyone?

It’s also startin to look like Love be runnin round de block a couple times he be lookin lean lately AN I AINT TALKIN BOUT DAT TEXAS TEA EITHER MAYN!

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 17, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOVE NICKNAME:

I juss got back from Burger King mayn an i was like mayn hol up dis de best burger i had in a minute mayn! it wuz as good as Kevin Love’s play last night, so i think we shud camm him….DE ANGRY WHOPPER. think bout it mayn: Scowlin Al and Angry Whopper wreakin havoc on de boards mayn…yea i like dat mayn

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 17, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

much better than...

…the Love Boat.

- Tapioca
- Love Boat
- Angry Whopper
- The Big Piranha

We’ll ask for additional suggestions during the next game thread.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nickname Suggestion

Tough Love.

Maps onto his determined but unselfish game and his name (ala King James and Shaqtus), and fits a world-class offensive rebounder. It also gives him a persona I’d LOVE (pun intended) for him to grow into: a Brad Miller, chip-on-his-shoulder, smarter-than-you-but-won’t-take-your-flack badass.

Also a marketer’s dream. My prediction: the Wolves end up doing a series of commercials with kids arguing with their parents about homework and vegetables and the like, only to pan across the kitchen table to show Kevin at dinner in full uniform. He stonefaces instructions to eat the broccoli. After a staredown, the kid reluctantly obliges. Kevin nods to the parents. “Now that’s Tough Love.”

by TheH on Jan 17, 2009 3:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Very well thought out...

…we now have:

- Tapioca
- Love Boat
- De Angry Whopper
- The Big Piranha
- Tough Love

Someone emailed me Hoover as in the vacuum, a’la a rebounding vacuum. I’ll add that one too:

- Tapioca
- Love Boat
- De Angry Whopper
- The Big Piranha
- Tough Love
- Hoover

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Last night’s game was a beaut! I would’ve liked to see a bit better final offensive possession to put it out of reach, but I won’t complain too much about it. While Foye can penetrate, he isn’t the type that can do it whenever he wants. He was stifled there at the end, and was forced to throw a dying duck across the court to Telfair, who was forced to throw it up. If they wanted to get it down low, I think Bassy is the guy to do it. He’s not a consistent finisher, but he can drive anytime he wants. Maybe he’d find a big guy to dish it to.

The play from both Al and Love was fantastic. The Suns pretty much feature a frontline with ultimate size at one spot and ultimate athleticism at the other, and the Wolves handled them in stride. You mentioned Love’s D, and it was good, but Al was actually good, too. Al’s best defensive tool is clearly his hands. When he wants to, he can really quickly jab the ball loose.

And great observation about Love consistently hitting Telfair with a full head of steam.

Nash seemed a bit out of it. He just looked tired, being at the back end of a back to back and then having to chase Telfair around (who was again pushing the pace). For a second I even thought he had lost track of time at the very end and was going to dribble the ball until expiration. He just had no urgency.

Carney was brilliant. Yes, Virginia, the Wolves do have an elite athlete on the squad. If he keeps maintains this niche—high-speed finisher in transition, three-pointers in the half court, hustle plays, and defense—he’s going to make me rethink my “let them all walk” stance regarding the team’s FAs. (Then they’d have to figure out something with Brewer, though).

Speaking of tough love, for those who didn’t get Hanny and Pete, Jim Pete was uncharacteristically critical last night. Most of his ire was directed at Telfair for complaining about calls early on. (At one point he even said “when you drive into the lane and finish weak like that, you’re not going to get the call.” Ouch.) Although he did give Bassy credit later on when he started to hit some key shots. Peterson also called out Big Al for forcing shots (third quarter, I believe) and McHale, basically, for going to the Craig Smith v. Amare well a few too many times in the third.

Also, Jim Pete mentioned true shooting %, effective FG %, and offensive efficiency on the broadcast.

I still think they’re one big, inside-out type guard and one rotational shot blocking big man away from getting out of the lotto merry-go-round. If I could pluck Ronnie Brewer and Joakim Noah and throw them into this rotation, I think I’d be a happy camper.

by jianfu on Jan 17, 2009 4:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Love...

…also played d on Barnes and Amare down the stretch. The Wolves need someone (probably at the 3) to guard the rim from the weak side. A Josh Smith/Ty Thomas kind of guy who can really get up and down. I don’t know if Marvin Williams has it in him (or Trevor Ariza) but that’s ideal.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW:

How nice would it be to see Carney and Brewer out there together? Holy crap would it be up and down with Bassy, Brewer, Carney, Love, and Jefferson?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nice point about Nash...

between throwing the ball right to Telfair, inadvertently stepping on the halfcourt line, coming up short on all his outside shots, and taking too long to call time out at the end, it was pretty obvious that he was tired. Not to take away from the win, being tired is part of the game, but I think it’s a fair observation.

by plinytheelder on Jan 17, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jason WIlliams left the league recently...

SO we’re really in dire need of a new “White Chocolate”

by Laughing Stock on Jan 17, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Im'

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

whoops..

…I’m not sure he has that type of game. Does anyone else have thoughts on that name?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm stickin to Angry Whopper mayn

cuz de boy angry mayn and he be grabbin dem boards mayn!!

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 17, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

could go with Vanilla Thunder...

apparently he shattered a backboard on a dunk in high school. Plus anything that brings Darryl Dawkins into everyday conversation is a good thing in my book. ;)

by plinytheelder on Jan 17, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Vanilla Thunder

I like Vanilla Thunder too, but it kind of steals from both Vanilla Gorilla and Chocolate Thunder. I would willingly change Tapioca to “Tapioca Thunder” if that’s what it takes to get Thunder involved.

As for White Chocolate, that seems to imply that Love has a little chocolate in his game…which isn’t really true. I would have offered “Milano” if he did ( Milano cookies…nummy). Love is more of a Twinkie. White on the inside and off-white on the outside. Delicious none the less.

by Blakeley on Jan 17, 2009 7:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

How about a compromise...

…Thunder Twinkie

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I Definitely Agree

Not much chocolate in Love’s game, or in his speech either. What about “the Love Boat”?

by Laughing Stock on Jan 18, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Crap

got beaten to it. Nevermind

by Laughing Stock on Jan 18, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

pryz

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

former apple valley star....

…Randy Breuer.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 18, 2009 7:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Showin' my age (and love for the Pixies)...

…but “Gigantic” is what I’m thinking. Not so much as a nickname, but for his impact.

Gigantic
Gigantic
A big, big Love…

Look here junior, don't you be so happy.
And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad.

by E-6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

you can never go wrong with surfer rosa...

…so now we have

- De Angry Whopper
- Thunder Twinkie
- Gigantic
- Tapioca
- Love Boat
- The Big Piranha
- Tough Love
- Hoover

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Love Nickname

I’ve been thinking about this all day. Then it hit me…

Kevin Love – Mall Cop

He is certainly the short heavy white guy out there who everyone underestimates…

and finds a way to get it done!!!

Kevin Love – The Mall Cop

by DR_JPK on Jan 17, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll add it to the list

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 18, 2009 7:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gerald Wallace

be droppin 31 and 16 wit time to go. GET HIM HERE NOW MAYN!!!

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 17, 2009 8:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

and frickin' raymond felton took the last shot...

…good game.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 17, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just saw...

…that Kevin Love was in attendance at tonight’s UCLA game. Their opponent? Arizona State. He saw first hand James Harden score 24 points (8-15; 7-9 from the charity stripe) to help ASU with the upset in OT.

But, you know, it will all be good when Harden shakes David Stern’s hand this summer and puts the Wolves cap on. Then the Pac 10 products can put their differences aside and work for together for the common good.

by jianfu on Jan 17, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Man I hope not

Color me seriously unimpressed with Harden. He is obviously physically more mature than most college players and he uses that to his advantage. I give him credit for that.

But he rarely moved with out the ball on offense, was lackadaisical on defense, and I can’t recall him having an assist. That game will not transfer to the NBA where his physical maturity will be matched every night by his opponent.

by Just A Fan on Jan 18, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

James Harden

will be a bust. Real talk mayn. you heard it hear first. I want NUTTIN to di wit dat kid mayn i want Rubio or Thabeet but on de real it dont even mattr cuz we got DE ANGRY WHOPPER MAYN i be fiendin fo anutther wun of dem mayn dey be tasty den a maf.ucka

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 17, 2009 10:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

sum names to add to de 3 spot debate:

Andres Nocioni (could come cheap)
Ron Artest ( why not?)
Carmelo ( i know im dreamin)

rather have Noch den Marvin Williams.

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 17, 2009 10:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noch and "cheap"...

….should not be used in the same sentence together:

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/bulls.jsp

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 18, 2009 7:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Jefferson"s

If they are going to be playing the Theme from the Jefferson’s for Big Al, then the best name I can think of to go with that theme Is “Bentley.” We just need a promo with Al Jefferson walking on Love’s back to cure his sore back. Or Love going over to Al’s place and Al slamming the door in his face. I suppose you would have had to seen the Jefferson’s though. ANyway, my suggestion is Bentley.

by Andy B on Jan 18, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Did Tom..

….have a nickname on the Jeffersons? Wasn’t he the white guy across the hall who was married to Lenny Kravitz’s mom?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 18, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

PS:

I do like Bentley and I’ll add it to the list.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 18, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tom Willis

I don’t think he had a nickname, but that was his full name. They were the Willis’s, Tom and Helen. I suppose Willis might be another nickname for Love that goes with the Jefferson theme.

by Andy B on Jan 18, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hell yeah there was a nickname,

only it was a collective nickname that George gave to both Tom and Helen: the Zebras! Remember, Weezy would say something about inviting Tom and Helen and George would respond “man I don’t want to see those Zebras!” I’m not touching that one…man, talk about politically incorrect à la All in the Family 70s sitcoms…

by plinytheelder on Jan 18, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

put de poll up mayn

so we can git dis nickname thang setlled mayn.

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 18, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it will go up tomorrow

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 18, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

First post here

Normally post on the ESPN board. Good stuff here though.

My nickname for Love:

THE CLEANER

by Mstermisty on Jan 18, 2009 6:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks...

…welcome aboard. I’ll add it to the list.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 18, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well Jefferson and Love are both a bit round if you get my drift...

Maybe we should go with JeLo, like “here comes JeLo, jiggling their way onto the court!”

by Laughing Stock on Jan 18, 2009 10:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think that was the only one I could find..

….with all the damn pictures of LA/Orlando on that night. It was crazy. Typically Yahoo has about 10 pictures per game but it seemed like they had about 45 pictures of celibrities oohing and aahing at Dwight Howard.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 19, 2009 7:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

There are hardly ever any Wolves pictures… unless we are playing a marquee team like Boston, LA, Cleveland, etc

by College Wolf on Jan 19, 2009 10:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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