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by wyn on Jan 23, 2009 7:00 PM CST
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Sean Marks.....
New Zealand’s greatest basketballing export (after the cult figure Pero Cameron) is cutting us up in the middle.
Did he play...
…for the Tall Blacks?
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former raptor
They used to say he was the best athlete on that team…when they had both Carter and McGrady
by plinytheelder on Jan 23, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
We'd have a field day with him on the Wolves...
…the FotC and LotR references would be flying fast and furious.
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jim pete apparently thinking about the value of possessions tonight
great post earlier, snp!
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 8:31 PM CST reply actions
Thanks....
….I heard the “extending possessions” bit too. Ending and extending; it’s what it’s all about. If you’re not a scorer you extend at a high level; if you’re a scorer, you have to extend at a level to make up for your deficiencies.
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ay mayn u alreddy know whu it is young mayn hol up
in dis piece maynnnnn! why dis thread so dead tonight mayn maybe der be people at de game mayn!!
ah mayn dat boy Mike juss hit dat shot mayn hol up!! yea mayn i pray to all dat is holy we dont trade dis kid it wud be awful awful awful mayn
chea mayn less do dis mayn!
MAYN HOL UP!
Bassy!!!
One of these days I’ll be able to buy a Bassy shirt.
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how long has hanny been calling him "hot rod"?!
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know...
….I’ll put out the feelers and see if I can get an answer.
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I don't know..
…I found it on a Google image search for “importance possessions”. It’s a fantastic photograph. A 21st Century version of Let Us Now Praise Famous Men.
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Still one of my favorite books
…a must read for everyone. That should be a game thread topic: must-read books. Candide is mine. If I had to pick 1 book, that would be it.
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oh actually I don't know the book
who wrote it?
by plinytheelder on Jan 23, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
pliny its a pretty incredible piece of documentary, you should read it
james agee wrote it and it has the most killer photos by walker evans
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Last book:
Le Guide Culinaire: A Guide to Modern Cookery by Auguste Escoffier. Fantastic cook book and a great read.
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Here's a link for the Famous Men book
http://www.amazon.com/Let-Now-Praise-Famous-Men/dp/0618127496
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Paul Wellstone...
…used to recommend it to anyone he saw.
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there are a couple of sections in the middle where you feel like you are getting drawn into an alternate universe or something; its just the depression era south.
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
I'd also suggest...
…Acres of Aspiration. It’s about the all black towns of Oklahoma. Many people don’t realize that Oklahoma was once considered as a post-slavery experiment for black resettlement. There were a series of towns that were created as a sort of “haven”. They exist to this day and they are a source of 3rd world poverty. My wife’s family lives in a dairy farm across from one of them. It’s literally out of this world and deserving of greater attention.
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hadn't heard of that one
i’ll pick it up next time at the library for a peep.
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't know that...
only thing I heard about black people in OK was the fire in Tulsa
by plinytheelder on Jan 23, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
yep..
….the race riots may be the only case in American history where air support was called in on American soil.
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The OK National Guard burned the records....
…but several eye witnesses say they were bombed.
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I once heard an interview with one of the guys from the Gap band
(remember them? “You dropped a bomb on me baby”) – anyways actually a really interesting guy, talking about that episode in Tulsa
by plinytheelder on Jan 23, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
crazy, i gotta read something on this
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Riot and Remembrance...
…is where you should start:
http://www.amazon.com/Riot-Remembrance-Tulsa-Race-Legacy/dp/0618108130/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232767677&sr=1-4
I’ve talked to a few survivors. We have lots of friends in Tulsa and my former roomie still has family who was affected. It’s a WAY forgotten chapter in American history. Tulsa was a happening town too. Bob Wills wrote a song about how it was a party place with (relatively) open attitudes.
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yeah what I heard in that interview,
which was part of a larger program on it (probably on npr or something, can’t remember), is that Tulsa had a really interesting and vibrant black community, somehow more affluent than other places…until then.
by plinytheelder on Jan 23, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
It's one of the birthplaces...
…of American jazz.
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It was also a place....
….where honky tonk met black culture. It was an early Memphis in the musical sense.
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Here's the report from the paper:
There exists conjecture and rumors that the spotter planes were armed and if they machine-gunned the refugees. Also that the planes dropped nitroglycerine, dynamite, turpentine, or other volatiles to assist in the incendiarism. If these rumors are true, and there are a few eyewitness reports that they are, this would make Tulsa the first U.S. city to be bombed from the air, and the only inland one to so be. There are similar reports that the blacks were stockpiling ammunition, and the explosions that occurred when many of the houses were burned were those stockpiles exploding. I strongly suspect that they were gas lines rather than ammunition stockpiles, and I seriously doubt that the planes were armed, however, my evidence is as unsteady as that of those who claim that the planes were armed, or agree with the other conjectures. To discuss fully the theories about the number of dead, and their disposition would require far too much space for this paper.
I’ve talked to a guy who swears they were machine gunned.
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thanks for the tip
i missed a chance to visit tulsa a couple years back, there was a conference there. but no one wanted to go because it was in tulsa instead of someplace sexier. i went the next year when it was in southern california and it sucked anyway.
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Tulsa...
…is a fantastic small city….as is OKC. Both are very underrated…especially Tulsa. It’s Little Rock with more class.
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PS...
..and I like Little Rock.
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later mayn
i’m out too — thanks for the book talk. and go wolves for pete’s sake!
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
yeah i hear nice things about OKC too
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
It's not a bad place to be..
…very mid western. Not as “southern” as people think. I’d definitely live there. BTW: here’s more Oklahoma air strikes:
http://www.pointniner.com/2008/03/oklahoma-air-national-guard-bombs-tulsa.html
Plus, one of the best parts about the OKC area is Head Country BBQ and Van’s Pig Stand. Also, the bombing memorial is a must-see destination. The best memorial I have ever seen; very well done.
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My wife was born in Shawnee..
….and my mother in law lives literally across the street from Van’s.
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It's pretty obscure...
…it’s the only real book on the all-black towns. It’s a pretty forgotten chapter in American history. Some of the towns still exist to this day and you literally step back into a time machine when you go there. I think I have some photos of the last time I went there. I’ll try and dig them up. It’s outside of Wewoka, OK—where my grandparents live. Another interesting piece of Oklahoma history is the Tulsa race riots. One of my old roommates had a grandfather who was beaten in the battle.
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Erich Fromm's...
…Escape from Freedom is my other.
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that's a good one too, pretty much the only reliable fromm in my opinion
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
yep..
….it has some fantastic passages on modern living. His commentary on news and advertising is fantastic…boom, boom, boom. The news man takes the same tone in a murder as he does selling soap. It can’t be put any better.
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reminiscent of thoreau on why he doesn't bother reading the paper:
once you’ve read one account of someone’s house burning, you’ve read them all…everything is reduced to a universal equivalence in the end.
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
sounds like that line in McLuhan (to paraphrase a fellow Winnipegger!)
where he says that if we want to understand how banal the news we read every day is, we should keep our newspapers and then go back and read them when they’re a month old…
by plinytheelder on Jan 24, 2009 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
in the same line as fromm but more ruthless
have you ever read any adorno? he’ll advance much the same argument as in escape from freedom, but with a lot more conceptual pyrotechnics. hot stuff.
“The idolization of the cheap involves making the average the heroic. The highest-paid stars resemble pictures advertising unspecified proprietary articles”
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
I will check it out....
….any particular place I should begin? Does he have a reader or is there a seminal piece of work that I should start with.
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I don't know that there's a reader...
But the piece that is most widely read is “The Culture Industry”, a chapter co-written with Max Horkheimer in the book Dialectic of Enlightenment. I’m also a big fan of his book Minima Moralia, which is mostly 1-2 page aphorisms making observations on everyday life, bits of literature and art, etc. Its tough going sometimes, but you can always jump to the next aphorism for a change of pace.
by secretarykissinger on Jan 25, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
although he missed the rebound that led to a 3
;)
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wolves are actually going to win this thing
and i’m starting to believe it!
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions
aight mayn im out cuz we won mayn an i need to git my sip on mayn!!!!
MAYN HOL UP DE WOLVES BE ON SUM UDDER SHIT RIGH NOW LESSSSSSSSS GITT IT!!!!!
MAYN HOL UP!
foye and carney are so confident right now
its hard to believe this is the same team that was just crumpling in the fourth quarters back in december
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions
yeah - how bout Foye's block on Peja? wtf?
by plinytheelder on Jan 23, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
His late game...
…situational d is excellent.
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yeah that's a nice way to put it
Wish I’d seen more than the last 7 minutes! ;)
by plinytheelder on Jan 23, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
remember the death match?
one player is still alive
by secretarykissinger on Jan 23, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
solid point...
…i should wrap that little theme up.
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In other news...
Noah with 0 points, 3 boards, 3 turnovers and 6 fouls in 14 minutes in a blowout home loss to Toronto tonight. You’ve gotta think that if ever the time was ripe to swing a deal, it’s now. Maybe he needs a fresh start.
QUOTE OF THE MILLENIUM!
Well, of the week anyways, from Al Jefferson, describing his kickout to Foye for a late 3, via Souhan’s column:
Randy knew what I was doing. He’s finally figuring me out. I kept baiting those guys to come. If his guy didn’t come, I was going to go score. But I knew his guy was going to come and Randy was going to be butt-naked, right there.
From “finally figuring me out” to Foye’s nudity…wow, no further comment, there’s just too much to work with here.
Guess I didn’t wake up properly this morning cuz I’m having the illusion that we won this … Woah. Did the “give Foye some time ppl” get ever so right! (no didn’t see any musicals it just popped in my head that way).
Eveyone excited for our future right now say I.
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“NBA League Pass Broadband is now available in your country!”
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by Wim (Belgium) on Jan 24, 2009 3:28 AM CST up reply actions
How awesome is that!
Archived games so you don’t have to watch in the middle of the night.
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Yea, if only I could get it work … ;)
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by Wim (Belgium) on Jan 25, 2009 3:28 AM CST up reply actions
oh no...
….are you getting the 98% completed screen of death? The NBA needs to take a page out of the Euroleague handbook and get an online product that works.
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I first got video but no audio, then just “current channel not broadcasting” then no audio again and by that time the t-wolves game was gone. It seemed to work today (on other games) but is now down again ..
It’s also not the same thing as the US thing. On the US thing you could request archived games and start watching from the start. On the international thing they’re broadcasting the games on a loop and you have to start watching at a certain time to watch the game from the start. The interface is also completely different, it seems to be a completely different system. Why that is, I have no idea.
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