More Camp

It was night two for yours truly at Wolves training camp. A few thoughts:
- Al Jefferson sat out the late scrimmage with two gigantic bags of ice taped to his knees. According to Kurt Rambis, this was simply a precaution for Al's knees and that he had shown no signs of limping or favoring the injured leg. Rambis also said that Al participated in the earlier scrimmage game and was able to practice during the day. Whatever the case, Al looked a little ginger after everything was all said and done.
- The 2nd scrimmage saw Jonny Flynn and Ramon Sessions share the court for a couple of minutes. Not much to report on this front other than that I was witness to a fantastic showing of Small Sample Size Theater against a bunch of training camp reserves. When asked about the amount of time that Flynn and Sessions shared the court together so far, Rambis answered that they have been working together but that it will be a process for them to not force things and simply learn to play together. I'm not really sure what that meant but I nodded anyway.
- The last game of the night featured a black team of Jonny Flynn, Ryan Hollins, Ryan Gomes, Ramon Sessions, and Devin Green against a white squad of Corey Brewer, Kevin Love, Damien Wilkins, Sasha Pavlovic, and Jason Hart. I have no idea who won as I stopped paying attention to the scoreboard about 23 seconds into the action.
- Flynn looked much better tonight than he did during last night's session. He was beyond confident, vocal, and he was able to get pretty much wherever he wanted with the ball.
- Flynn and fellow former Syracuse Orangeman Jason Hart seemed to be having a blast guarding eachother. It was pretty obvious that they each wanted to get the best of one another. I would say they went after one another a'la Syracuse Style but it was man d.
- Corey Brewer looked great running the floor. I caught up with Fred Hoiberg after the practice and he said that Brewer is in fantastic shape and that fans should look to see great improvement in his transition game. Like I mentioned last night, Brewer is going to have all types of open court opportunities in this new offense. His combination of length, athleticism, and speed is pretty rare and if he can ever develop a moderate handle and a moderate jumper to go along with his athletic gifts, he's going to be a solid pro. It is also pretty obvious that Brewer is going to be a defensive stud. The guy is all over the court. I think he has a fairly legit shot at guarding the 1, 2, and 3...which is a good thing if you are thinking about playing Flynn and Sessions together.
- Speaking of my fellow Amesian Fred, NBA rules prevent him from commenting on the guy who supplanted him as the best player from Ames (Harrison Barnes) but he did have several nice things to say about Ryan Gomes and there seems to be a fairly open feeling within the team that this is going to be an important year for a guy who has a non-guaranteed contract that turns guaranteed just after the season ends.
- Hoiberg also said that despite the basketball operation cutbacks of other franchises the Wolves will maintain their regional scouts.
- The last interesting bit of Hoiberg-related news was that he singled out Jack McClinton and Devin Green as the free agents who have caught his eye in camp. McClinton looked much better during today's scrimage, hitting a few open shots and not looking lost with the ball in his hands. I'm rooting for him to make the squad as I really enjoyed watching him play at Miami and I had a chance to chat him up in Little Rock during the NCAA tourney 2 years ago as I was staying at the same hotel as Miami and Mississippi State. I also heard a lot of nice things about Green from other folks throughout the facility.
- David Kahn once again wore shorts.
- After getting run over by Ryan Hollins while sitting in the front row during a previous session, Papa Glen caught this practice from about 10 rows up.
- Brian Cardinal was in mid-season form in terms of attitude, as he jawed at the refs about their lack of calls. Perhaps the janitor has a strictly pro-union stance and was merely against the scabs that were overseeing the scrimmage. Interesting side-question: Does the Players' Union have solidarity with the refs? Is it something of a dick move if they don't support the refs? Moving on...\
- Kevin Love got a brief and mild tongue-lashing/correction from Kurt Rambis about making good passes. Beyond that, Love really showed off his mid-to-long range touch. I can't repeat it enough: Love will be the team's best player this year. He is going to present massive matchup problems and he will put up huge numbers in the gaps of the offense. Even in a short scrimmage, I counted 4 possessions that he kept alive with offensive boards, taps, positioning, etc. He dove after loose balls, made slick passes from the top of the key to wide open outside shooters, and forced the defense to play him honest whenever he had the ball. Best of all, he did something we haven't seen for a long, long, long time with the Wolves: he ate up space in the paint on defense. Throughout the session, Love showed a fantastic ability to absorb contact, remain straight up and down, and alter shots. His lateral movement has clearly improved and he doesn't get caught out of position nearly as much as he used to do. Last year the Wolves had a single functional two-way player: Ryan Gomes. This year I'm pretty confident in saying that they have Gomes, Love, and Sessions.
- Speaking of Ramon, he's a cool customer and he should be in the starting lineup on opening day.
- The following easily qualifies as one of the weirdest things I have heard in a long time: Billionaire owner to front office employee concerning where they would meet for supper: "Just head on up the hill and take a left at the McDonalds." Say what you will about Papa Glen but the guy still has a fair amount of small town guy in him. As something of a neighbor, the guy has kept it local and pumped a ton of money into the community in which I live. It's a good thing.
- Funniest part of being around an NBA team = the number of 40 year-old+ men in tracksuits. It's like a condensed trip to the Jersey shore. If only they could bring an old Camero out onto the court the stereotype would be complete.
Well, that about does it in terms of notable items from practice. I would like to write a few words about blogs and media access before I call it a night...
To put it as simply as possible, Wyn and I do not have the resources to run a truly full-time news operation that covers the Wolves. Between significant others, jobs, and families, this is still a hobby and while we like to think we have passed the legitimacy test in the eyes of the Wolves' excellent PR folks, we simply do not have the manpower or time to do what folks like Jerry Zgoda or Jon Krawczynski do very well: build meaningful behind-the-scene professional relationships with the folks we cover. Actually, that's not completely accurate. Let's throw in a "in a time-sensitive manner" at the end of that sentence. I'm not saying we can't do that sort of thing; it will just take us a lot longer to do so.
Where am I going with all of this?
I understand the importance of verifying legitimacy when working with folks in the new media. My point here is that it is going to take some time for us to build a solid "blog plus" relationship with the team and with the folks on it who we want to get information from. We have started that process and we are grateful to the team for allowing us to do so, but we also want to let our readers know that we still place a big premium on creating content that is focused on opinion, fan-perspective, and as little behind-the-scenes sausage-making as possible. We have made it passed the "dirty blogger" stage but we still have a lot of work to do. We hope you stick with us.
Until later.
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Awesome Write-Up
I might vindicate myself in the LMA vs K Love debate yet.
by Jose Cordoba on Oct 1, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's already working
as demonstrated by the fact it’s been almost 8 hours since you wrote this, and no Zombies have showed up to argue with you.
Wait a minute . . . maybe it’s a little too quiet . . .
Delaying hope for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 11:43 p.m. on September 1st, 2009.
by PoorDick on Oct 2, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think all the zombies have been busy making a movie

by McCleak on Oct 2, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Oh, OSCAR!!!!"
“Woody’s loaded for Best Actor, and he’s got his sights set on YOU!”
Delaying hope for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 11:43 p.m. on September 1st, 2009.
by PoorDick on Oct 2, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not happening ;-)
Kevin Love may have improved over the summer but LMA also has.
Read this. It sounds like LMA is beasting up. So much for him being soft…
Blazersedge mods suck
by lrh86 on Oct 2, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to hear more about why you think Love
will be our best player. Better than Big Al even? That would be awesome! And I certainly hope so eventually, but this year?
Great stuff though. I don’t want to picture Kahn in shorts though, thanks. For some reason the era of short-shorts pops into my head and it’s not a pretty sight.
Anything more on how Hollins looked? Not much beyond dunks and a block here and there? Weak man defense?
by Mplax on Oct 2, 2009 12:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm also of this mindset
Love’s a more complete player than Al if you factor in: He’s a better rebounder, better off the ball, a better defender, and a better passer. Despite Kevin’s early season struggles he scored with a higher level of efficiency. I also tend to think we’ll see more improvement from Kevin Love than Al heading into next season. I’m expecting about 18 and 12 from Kevin where as about 20 and 10 from Al. I think the major differences will be defense and off-ball stuff like setting screenes.
by Jose Cordoba on Oct 2, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love is going to be...
…a match up nightmare on a wider level than Big Al. Big Al is fantastic in the post but that’s pretty much all he can do. He has a much higher high end in terms of his ability to score the ball in a specific situation, but that’s all he does. Love is going to be able to score from all over, albeit at a much lower level, but it will be much more spread out. Love can also pass the ball as good as anyone else on the team and he is a threat to shoot from outside as well as put the ball on the floor after a ball fake. He’s also a better defensive player right now and he is able to work with his teammates in a way that sets up the action on a level far greater than Big Al. I know there will be talk about Big Al and the All Star game but I really don’t think he’s going to be the best player on his own team.
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
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by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 2, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is awesome to hear
From what I have seen year 1, in college and interviews, Love seems to have a truly rare hoops IQ. As with Larry Legend, late Barkley and many others, players like this can take down superior athletes by knowing how to play the game.
Really hoping he lives up to expectations, K-Love could make the leap this year.
by Punisher#8 on Oct 2, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know there's been some talk...
… of the weight that Love has lost. (Somewhere in the single digits, evidently.) While I don’t think Love has the body type that readily exhibits all of his weight room work, I’d be really curious to know how far along the kid is in his physical metamorphosis. I remember an interview from last summer where Love noted how much work second-year pros had put in on their frames, just wondering if that seems like that’s something he worked hard to achieve for himself. I ask because I think really one of the few things that could hold back a kid that smart, talented, and stable is his body chemistry.
by TheH on Oct 2, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much of Love's improvement
Will be due to the new offensive system and how much due to simple hard work at player and skills development? A different way to put it—in comparison to last year, will Love’s skillset be used better, therefore increasing his output?
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Oct 2, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's nice to hear
But I am not gonna hold my breath for Love to produce on a higher level than Jefferson just yet. And I am still a firm believer that Jefferson, if properly motivated, is an above average defender. He completely took Duncan out of his element when they played last season. He kept him out of the post and he even blocked one of Duncan’s bailout shots if I remember correctly. And I also think that with a little less pressure on him, Jefferson’s efficiency ratings will see an increase of about .050, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he jumps even higher.
Count me as one of the few still waiting on Love’s supposed passing to come to fruition. Yes he is good and smart, but I just don’t see him as a Kevin Garnett-type passing big. Maybe it’s just cuz I was spoiled with Garnett here. Love is still obviously a superior passer to Jefferson.
Definitely agree with you here though: I believe that Love sets up the game better for his team, but I also feel like Jefferson is and will be the guy who it is being set up for. As it should be. Love, while a great player and prospect, has a long ways to go before he is the one demanding plays be set up for him.
Still, it’s really nice to hear this from someone who was there watching up close. And I sure hope that you are right! Here’s to hoping!
by Mplax on Oct 2, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I realize it's early...
But, S-n-P, based on the two practices you’ve seen, what should be the Opening Day starting line-up?
by LoveTo on Oct 2, 2009 1:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would...
…go with Sessions, Brewer, Pavlovic, Love, and Jefferson at this point. Although, Jefferson is clearly not up to snuff in terms of his fitness. He’s sucking wind after 3-5 minutes of court time. Pavlovic gets the nod because he’s really the only proven semi-decent outside shooter on the roster. This team may be on the right track but the shooting thing is worrisome. Granted, last year they didn’t shoot for crap but this year…well, if there is a positive to be taken from all of this, it’s not like they could have shot the ball worse than any other month besides January last year.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 2, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pavlovic
SnP – does Sasha look like the Clev. talent that could have had a 30 million dollar extention that is playing on a rental contract or a vet min. pick up?
I have been pushing the Sasha wagon for a while and need to pick up some help….I think he is a decent defender with an outside shot and decent overall feel plus he is a nice athelte.
by majinman on Oct 2, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks more....
….like a vet pick up with a sweet outside shot.
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com
by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 2, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love these
I really enjoy these write-ups and appreciate all the time you take to do them. They are getting me more and more excited for the season!
If it wasn't for disappointments, I wouldn't have any appointments
by Jackdaw on Oct 2, 2009 1:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great post
but we also want to let our readers know that we still place a big premium on creating content that is focused on opinion, fan-perspective, and as little behind-the-scenes sausage-making as possible
And I can tell you that I appreciate the thought, quality and perspective you and Wyn provide.
Team contact can be a tricky business. When does the trust that generates inside knowledge get used against you? When does the threat of “withdrawn privileges” silence a critic, even a constructive one?
Judd: "...I've since watched some Steven Seagal movies and I realise that pressure points are no laughing matter.".
by Auswolf on Oct 2, 2009 5:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks...
…and just to add something below the fold, I think one of the things that would really start to go south if we got a ton of access is our ability to talk about the team in favorable terms due to the large and glaring social gap between nearly everyone associated with the team and your duo of lowly bloggers (who, it should be noted, are both firmly in the middle class). It really is another world being around these guys and it’s one that is pretty easy to target for being materialistic, purposefully (and rightfully) weary of outsiders, and a tad…well, I’m not saying this about the local press because I simply don’t know, but while I was in the military I had the chance to work with a local sports team (in another state) for some events and I got to tag along with the reporters who covered them for a few days and the only thing I remembered about the experience was how much the reporters despised the guys on the team. Chuck Klosterman has a whole chapter in Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs about the media and this aspect of sports coverage.
My point here is that I think a lack of consistent access is probably a good thing in the long run for a site like this. I think we could benefit in our coverage by being around the team, and being able to sit in press row and listen to the interaction and action from a different perspective, but in terms of talking to these guys, it’s like trying to figure out what Rush Limbaugh is going to say about President Obama: you know what is going to be before it is said. There are some good things you can gather but most of it is stuff that you know what they are going to say before they say it. There’s something kind of weird about going up to a guy after a long practice and asking a question that both of you know the answer to and in a situation where both of you are forced to be there (for deadline and access purposes). In real life I’ve spoken to reporters several times on background and my canned/BS answer detector is pretty good. These interviews are canned dances and I can’t imagine doing this full time for a living. I’d hate it by the 2nd week. I think it’s much more interesting to use access to give our readers a different perspective of the actual game…as opposed to getting platitudes about off-season hard work from the new VPBO or rehashed Twitter jokes from a guy who is probably pretty tired of the whole Twitter thing. If there was a player who went of the reservation in terms of what he said, he would just be milked for quotes that could move papers/generate blog hits, a’la T.O..
I’m not looking for insider knowledge, just a different perspective. I’m a basketball fan and the Wolves just happen to be the team I grew up with. I’m less interested in the players and front office than I am with the game and I like to focus on talking about things that all fans have access to…I just want to give a take from a different perspective.
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com
by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 2, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I can speak for most of us on hear when I say...
…I just want to give a take from a different perspective.
Thank god for that.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Oct 2, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, you guys are awesome.
The comments on Zgoda’s blog are unendurable. You get a better class of commenter here. Keep doing what you are doing, and someday it will pay off. IMHO
by timmuggs on Oct 2, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Wolves would be wise to give you full media access. You’re the best Wolves writer in town.
And even though you probably don’t invite the comparison, I’ll say it anyways….you lapped Britt Robson a long time ago.
by DougW on Oct 2, 2009 6:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No
There has been no “lapping” of Mr. Robson. nor is it necessary to rank these fine writers. But the implied magnitude of lapping is absurd.
by littleboxes on Oct 2, 2009 7:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I used to read Robson’s “On the Ball” all the time (back when he posted), and while I think he is a very good writer, I tended to find more insightful comments among his blogs posters.
I was actually going to say SNP had lapped him twice, which I sincerely believe.
by DougW on Oct 2, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever happened to Britt? I used to enjoy his in-depth recaps. I found him a great complement to this site’s content and voice(s).
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Oct 2, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Doug...
…but I still think Britt is the bee’s knees of Wolves coverage.
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com
by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 2, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Mr. Robson
He’s got an article on Joe Dumars’ latest makeover of the Pistons at SI: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/britt_robson/10/01/dumars.pistons/index.html?eref=sihp
by shboom on Oct 2, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think ol' Britt has moved onward and upward...
And left the Wolves behind.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Oct 2, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man's gotta put food on his family!
Proud another one of the Twolves crew got picked up nationally. Britt certainly deserved it.
by TheH on Oct 2, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Low - flying copter
That’s where Britt has been interms of coverage and where Canis should strive. The national guys flyover at 30,000 feet and are generally clueless. The beat guys end up too close. Forty to fifty nights on the road with the travelling show and 80-90 hard deadlines make it difficult to produce great analysis.
Press risers and lockerroom access for home games and writing as needed makes it easier to dig in and not “go native”. Here’s to two of the best NBA spots there are!
by A.K. Agikamik on Oct 2, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were always in a different category. Britt was/is the top dog on game reporting. Reading Britt always felt like you were there and saw the whole game + sat next to someone who really know basketball … this site has always been broader .. so different
We got Rubio!
by Wim (Belgium) on Oct 2, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two different fish
I think noone tops Robson for a single human being covering a game.
But the collective wisdom of this site led by Wyn and SnP is unbeatable as a group.
by Django Z on Oct 2, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From TWolvesBlog Twitter
On the Wolves: Kahn: "Can’t fathom" not extending Brewer’s contract: Chat..
by Blond Ricky on Oct 2, 2009 6:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
“Hope you stick with us?” Are you kidding? That was the best write-up I’ve seen yet! This website is invaluable. I have already told 10 friends about this website and hope each will tell 10 more. If there was cash involved we’d have a perhaps-not-legal pyramid scheme going.
Here’s hoping your personal relationships with the team management don’t get too meaningful, lest we be subjected to the types of comments you get from the sports media here in Washington, DC, Where every criticism is prefaced with “Now, I really like (fill in local sports coach – Zorn, Tapscott, Gibbs, etc.)” Much too cozy
by Son of Gerald Green on Oct 2, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kahn may like shorts
but he’s not as committed to them as Randy Wittman:

by feral on Oct 2, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tell me that's Photoshopped
If not, that’s a memory I wish I didn’t have.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Oct 2, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What deranged photoshop wizard would even *do* that?
Are there lots of model shots of middle-aged men’s legs in short shorts and penny loafers out there, onto which one can paste Witt’s face?
by feral on Oct 2, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
faaaaaaaantastic
excellent find.
www.canishoopus.com
by wyn on Oct 2, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any chance
of a widget reminding us how many days are left until the season opener?
by TMiss on Oct 2, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dunno...
….i’ll ask our web wizards.
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com
by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 2, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was that bit about Fred Armison?
Was he in attendance? It would appear I missed the message of that paragraph.
by John Doe on Oct 3, 2009 1:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Geepers Creepers
where’d you get those sneakers? Oops. I mean loafers. I missed the shoes entirely at first glance. Maybe I need some new peepers.
I think Wittman’s sartorial sensibilities pretty much sums it all up!
Thanks for sharing!
by uncle rico on Oct 3, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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