Kevin Love breaks the 4th metacarpal on his left hand
by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 16, 2009 9:30 PM CDT
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Here is what a broken 4th metacarpal looks like. According to a few WebMD-style sites, it takes about 4-6 weeks to heal.
UPDATE: According to our doctor sources (including one physical therapist for a local sports team), this is a 4-8 week recovery depending on the type of use after the cast is removed. Probably closer to 8 weeks for a high contact sport like basketball.
UPDATE ii: Zgoda reports that Kahn says an early estimate is 6-8 weeks.
UPDATE iii: While we're at it, let's use this post as a quick wrap up of the game:
- The Wolves' 1/2 court offense is a mess and it's not just the result of a transition to a new system. At one point in the 3rd quarter, Ramon Sessions, Ryan Gomes, Wayne Ellington, and Damien Wilkins were 0-20 from the field. They finished with 3 made field goals. This team needs shooters in a bad way.
- Wayne Ellington is suffering from a big case of not being decisive with the ball. He needs to have more catch-and-shoots instead of putting the ball on the floor. He was 0-9 from the field before catching-and-shooting a corner three. He looks apprehensive when the ball heads his way.
- Moving to the other end of the spectrum is the White Hole, Oleisky Pecherov. Granted, he makes a decent amount of shots but he is without conscience. His late three attempt was beyond-the-pale bad and Kurt Rambis is to be applauded for his restraint in not choking the White Hole on his return to the bench.
- The Chicago broadcasters were brutal. At one point in the game they spent a good minute or so talking about the class in which Benny the Bull goes about his business conducting between-timeout fan activities.
- Jonny Flynn showed some promise in this game by getting 8 assists and ending with a +1. There was a period in the 2nd half where he was able to get his teammates open looks on just about every trip down the floor. Granted, his teammates didn't exactly capitalize on the open looks, but they were there.
- Before he left with a broken finger, Kevin Love was being man-handled by Tyrus Thomas. It's the preseason but Love has been on the wrong end of the +/- equation so far this year.
- The Wolves are going to put up some weird boxscores this year. Early in the 2nd half they had more turnovers than the Bulls, 10 less FTAs, and a far worse FG% but were only down by 3 because they had 10 more field goal attempts. They ended up with a -10% on FG%, -12 FTA, -2 reb, and even turnovers. They only lost by 4. That's weird. I'm not sure how they ended up with 11 more shots.
- The Wolves played their best stretch of ball with Love and Al Jefferson on the bench.
That's about it.
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Is there a hex/curse on the Twolves?
Love becomes the third straight first round pick of the Wolvesto suffer a significant injury in his second season with the club (Foye, Brewer, now Love). Man, this is really getting old!
by ogishkemuncie on Oct 16, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not just picks
Jefferson last year was in his second year here.
Sammy Cassell got his second year dose during the playoff run, potentially costing the Wolves a championship.
by feral on Oct 17, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
er… make that the fourth straight. I forgot McCants.
by ogishkemuncie on Oct 16, 2009 9:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Zgoda just said on Twitter that Kahn said...
early estimates are 6 to 8 weeks.
We’re doomed. Sophomore Curse indeed.
by College Wolf on Oct 16, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
got an email from a friend...
..who is a physical therapist at a local sports program/school. he says it depends on the amount of activity after the cast is removed and with basketball that probably adds 2-4 weeks to a normal recovery. closer to 8 weeks but 6 is a possibility with a soft cast.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 16, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's assuming we knew much about this fracture
As you can see in your x-ray above, metatarsals may get called “a small bone in the hand” in news sources, but they’re “long” bones. Whether the fracture’s displaced or not, whether it’s on the long shaft of the bone or at the end on the articular surface…. These things differ, and affect prognoses.
by feral on Oct 17, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're going to need another big man now
Otherwise we’re down to just Al, while hoping Hollins can stay out of foul trouble.
by Oceanary on Oct 16, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Impossible for Hollins to stay out of foul trouble.
He tries to block every shot.
by College Wolf on Oct 16, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Long winter, indeed
Obviously not comparing myself to the Big K; but I broke my fourth metacarpal playing hoops too. Ring finger got bent way back. Still can feel the calcium bump there.
Recover quickly, Big K.
by uncle rico on Oct 16, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh
love the new Canis Hoopus epithet. It’s the sports blog version of The Front.
by uncle rico on Oct 16, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Love playing Zero Mostel's role,
or is that the long-suffering Jefferson? When will whoever-it-is jump out the window?
by feral on Oct 17, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
we had to slot a non baller for the role of Hecky Brown, played so brilliantly by Zero Mostel, after Agent Zero turned us down. So now it will be played by Michael “heckuva job” Brown, former head of FEMA during Katrina and equine expert.
by uncle rico on Oct 17, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hehe
I don't hate the Lakers, I hate their stupid fans.
by In Walks Rudy on Oct 16, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there's still some good news to this game
I mean, we only lost by 4, and Al, Gomes, Ellington, and Sessions won’t shoot this bad every night.
Plus Corey had a great game, his second strong showing in a row. He’ll shut up a lot of people if he can keep this up.
The defense looked much improved from even just two days ago.
Really this game didn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know. We need shooters, we need athletes in the frontcourt, and we’re going to have to be patient as the team builds chemistry.
by Oceanary on Oct 16, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
good point about brewer...
…i forgot to make mention of his good game. he was solid.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 16, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corey Brewer
Dude was amazing (compared to before). 20 points on 6-13, 2 for 6 from 3, very vast improvement. If he can keep that up, I can see why we drafted him.
by MNTwolvesanalyst on Oct 17, 2009 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm...
They didn’t have Derrick Rose. So yeah.
by College Wolf on Oct 16, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't have Salmons either, but...
…Tyrus Thomas is a bigger problem for us than either of them.
by Oceanary on Oct 16, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, he killed us.
But he did last year two. He had an 8 or 9 block game, iirc.
I wouldn’t worry too much about Love’s performance, given that. (Though I suppose it’s a moot point for the next 6-8 weeks.)
by John Doe on Oct 16, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that game – it was super sketchy. At least 2-3 of those “blocks” were blatant goaltends. Though the overall point about needing frontcourt athleticism is certainly relevant..
Jennings: F*** the Knicks, them n***** is always going to be weak.
by Xand1 on Oct 17, 2009 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well in a bit of Good News
We’ll get to keep Our First Round Pick. Otherwise this is a disaster- Our Front Court consists of Al, Gomes, Brian Cardinal, and Ryan Hollins. We have one player who should be playing more than 15 games a game- and he’s coming off an ACL injury. FYI- I don’t consider the White Hole a factor.
Although this might not matter since our shooting from deep- could be historically awful.
by Jose Cordoba on Oct 16, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jared Reiner
This is the chance for Jared Reiner to show his stuff..
Kurt Rambis said he won’t make cuts till after the game tomorrow, so this would be great for him to get some minutes next to Al, as well as Hollins
by MNTwolvesanalyst on Oct 17, 2009 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
disaster
You are correct, Jose. I can’t believe Love actually got injured. We’ve joked about this all summer on this board, the second season Timberwolves curse. It’s such an absurd notion. Curses, who believes in those? But, damn it.
Apparently, the Twolves have yet to clear things with the basketball gods and they still have some serious negative Karma coming their way.
by littleboxes on Oct 17, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post-mortem
Honestly, I don’t like seeing the prospect of another slow start, but my expectations are realistic enough not to let the frustration of the previous losing seasons cloud season 1 of this rebuilding effort.
- just glad Love’s injury wasn’t below the waist; that’s at least a step in the right direction curse-wise
- it seemed like they ran more high-screen stuff than on Wednesday, which made me wonder whether that was because they couldn’t score or because rambis wanted to see how it looked
- pecherov is the 7-foot white version of james “hollywood” robinson, and that kind of excites me for inane reasons
- the main problem the front line had was that ty thomas was into the game tonight; it’s not surprising to me that they’re having trouble with mobile bigs (Bosh, Bargnani, Thomas, Noah); it’s why I’d rather see them get a mobile 4/5 than Cole Aldrich
- Brewer won’t have as much success drawing fouls if he doesn’t become sharper with his ballhandling; that said, he was all over the court in the 4th
- the shooting looks bad now, but it’s probably the worst it’ll look; doesn’t mean it’ll get tons better, but more familiarity with an offense does lead to better shooting because guys aren’t as concerned with where they need to go
- the game basically came down to Jannero Pargo hitting a couple of pull-up Js with a hand in his face; they contested shots well but just missed some rotations and saw him hit a couple of low-% shots
- jefferson’s probably not going to force his explosiveness, which might cost him like it did tonight when he should’ve had a dunk late in the game but had to pump fake and draw the foul instead
- pushing the tempo will help make up for lacking jump shooters; it did tonight
by pagingstanleyroberts on Oct 16, 2009 11:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting distributions of minutes tonight
-DNP for Cardinal, despite the fact that Love logged only 14 minutes between foul trouble and the injury
-Sessions and Flynn saw no court time together. While I think Rambis was right to reject Kahn’s (admittedly probably fake) two point guards idea, I do think that a team with as little talent as ours should find a way to get its best players on the floor, even if it means 10 minutes of shared court time for our two PGs.
-I’m not sure we need to be giving Big Al 34 minutes, coming off an injury during the preseason. He wasn’t even killing Chicago like he usually does.
by John Doe on Oct 17, 2009 12:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure why people are taking this so hard
This year was always going to be a throw away year. An 8 week injury doesn’t figure much into the long term strategy for this team.
by TimAllen on Oct 17, 2009 12:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It was always going to be a "throw away" year in that we didn't have designs on the postseason...
But, especially for the Love-Jefferson front court pairing, this was (is) a big developmental, “see-what-we’ve-got” kind of year. A quarter of the season with Love sidelined hurts that. I’m bummed.
by LoveTo on Oct 17, 2009 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok guys, I took care of it...
… I took it upon myself to retain Dr. James Andrews for Jonny’s torn labrum surgery in January 2011. I also scheduled John Wall for March 2012 MCL repair with the good Doc. So we’re all set everybody, just relax, we’re still on schedule to win 50 games in 2014.
On the other hand if Love comes back in early December he misses 20 games.
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4-16? If we are 7-13 we will likely have a very good year – relatively speaking.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
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by CaliWolf on Oct 17, 2009 12:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A very good year in which season, again?
4-16? If we are 7-13 we will likely have a very good year – relatively speaking.
In 2013 or so, then? Yeah, that’d be a slow start, but not disastrous.
Siiiigh.
by feral on Oct 17, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I think it won’t dare to buy League Pass next year… This is the 2nd time I buy league pass and one of our key players goes down right after with an injury…
Official Kahn/Rambis band-wagon rider since 2009
by Wim (Belgium) on Oct 17, 2009 1:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you are right about the announcers. they are putrid.
not only do they get calls wrong, not only do they say nonsensical things frequently, but they have a disgraceful habit of ripping on the other team even if that other team is winning, tied, or barely losing to the bulls. the mute button on my remote has about a two year life span in my house.
by TheMoon on Oct 17, 2009 2:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Big Time Agree
I am a proud Wolves fan living in Arizona, thus my Wolves telecasts come from Directv League Pass. This allows me to see almost every team’s brodcasters. I have to agree that ours are very negative in their view of other teams. There has to be a certain level of respect that goes with that job. From my view, Petersen especially has very little respect for other teams. It makes watching an already tough game even worse, in fact many times I prefer the opponent’s broadcast team.
by scottysnowski on Oct 17, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was talking Chicago’s announcers. They were absolutely terrible.
Jennings: F*** the Knicks, them n***** is always going to be weak.
by Xand1 on Oct 17, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So....
I guess Al moves back to PF and we need a centre to back up (or start instead of) Hollins. Is this Jared Reiner’s big break (pun intended)?
We are screwed.
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by Auswolf on Oct 17, 2009 4:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh...
Do we really want to win a ton this year anyway?
1 more (high) lottery pick might be the best thing for the Wolves long term.
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by FishingMN on Oct 17, 2009 5:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
I don’t think they will win much in any case. All part of Kahn’s long-term plan. Better than being a middling team, even if it takes a little longer.
The other thing this team needs is a little luck. Will they get that bona fide super star that every competitive team needs?
by uncle rico on Oct 17, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wall or bust...
Yeah, let’s take your approach. This’ll get us a little closer to nabbing Wall. That’s how I’m going to spin this positively in my head…
Seriously though, this T’wolves defense is depressing. How hard is it to play defense?? What am I missing? If Madsen could be a solid defender with the lakers 9 years ago then why can’t Love? or Jeff?
October T’wolves draft board:
1-Wall
2-Favors
3-Henson
4-Aldrich
5-Bradley
At least it’s a deep draft next year
by SF on Oct 17, 2009 7:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Then sign Rubio...
… and trot out the following lineup: Wall (PG), Rubio (SG), Flynn (SF), Sessions (PF), and Love ©. Introducing the greatest five-win passing team of all time!
by TheH on Oct 17, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Wall's available
We can find trades for all three of the other points. I don’t even care. That kid is like mini-LeBron. He makes Derrick Rose look like Steve Blake.
by John Doe on Oct 17, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just teasing.
I lived in a neighboring city and got to see him in person a few times. I’m not sure I would take and keep him if I were GM, but there would be crazier moves to make.
by TheH on Oct 17, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to admit...
…it would pretty damn funny for Kahn to draft Wall, sending the media into an absolute frenzy, all the while insisting he’s going to play all four point guards at the same time. Completely stone-faced.
by TheH on Oct 17, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you bet
I agree, its awesome having the country laugh at us
But I still would prefer a winning season
by Son of Gerald Green on Oct 17, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who starts alongside Al now?
Who do you guys think will start along Al? I know Auswolf mentioned a possible shift of Al back to PF with someone filling in at C. In tonight’s preseason game, Cardinal got the start at PF, but Pecherov got the REB. I must admit, I’m asking as research for a fantasy basketball article on my site — please let me know what you think here or there! Also, what do you guys think is the bigger news this weekend — Love’s injury or Al’s sore Achilles?…
And as a Rockets fan, my condolences for your fallen bigs…
by steven (@fantasyhoopster) on Oct 18, 2009 3:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
probably gomes...
..until it becomes obvious that he can’t go back to playing the full-time 4.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Oct 18, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think anybody becomes the “starting” 4. I bet Rambis throws out Cardinal, Gomes, Pecherov, or Hollins at the 5 (shifting Al to 4) based on the match up each night.
Also, I haven’t heard anywhere that Al’s achilles is a big deal… Please tell me he’s not going to miss time also..
by LoveTo on Oct 18, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, didn’t mean to cause any panic about Al. Just seemed alarming to me b/c I’m so big on him fantasy-wise haha. I hope he’s okay, as he reminds me so much of my all-time favorite C, Hakeem the Dream.
And thanks for the thoughts. I added a Fred Hoiberg reference in my latest post as a small token of appreciation.
by steven (@fantasyhoopster) on Oct 20, 2009 3:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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