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Derek Fisher on the triangle

I highly, highly, highly recommend reading this article as it is the most insightful piece on the triangle I have read in a while. Furthermore I think Rambis' vision and coaching decisions are also given some context.

 

Some good quotes after the jump.

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[Derek Fisher]: Yeah. Our offense, it doesn't really matter who's on the floor. Obviously, you have different guys who have different strengths and weaknesses, but it doesn't change the spacing on the floor and where guys will be setting up. What type of things that we should be able to execute and take advantage. Pau's another guy we can put in the post, take advantage of his size and passing ability, but still, we gotta space out correctly around him. We can't just give him the ball and then just stand there and kind of watch him do his thing.  (Pause, grin)  Although some of us feel that since the rest of us have playing for ten games and he hasn't, that we should just give him the ball every single time. Just let him get beat up and worn down and smacked across the head.  Let him catch up with the rest of us. Then we'll start spreading it around. (Laughs)

Followed by a question on learning the offense:

When you talk about not setting up correctly, is it a matter of certain guys still being unsure, or simply a matter of not paying attention to the details?

    To me, it's more of not paying attention to the details. Ron (Artest) is the only that still has a lot of questions about how to respond or what happens if we call this or do this, and that's to be understood. But what would make his life a lot easier is if the other four guys would do the thing right, because there's only one place for him to be, if the other four guys are in the right spots. We're slowing down his learning curve by not paying attention to the details, and that's not fair to him and it's not fair to the team. Regardless of the win and loss record, we could just be playing much better.  Sometimes you play good and you still may lose because the other team plays good, but we could be playing much better if we really were paying attention to more details. 
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After reading Derek Fisher's take on the triangle and utilizing it, are you...
...more hopeful about our long term prospects with it.
30 votes
...less hopeful about our long term prospects with it.
9 votes
...feel that triangle or not, it still comes down to talent.
27 votes

66 votes | Poll has closed

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This just goes to show how nuanced the Triangle is

Man, if the Lakers are struggling with it at times, I can only imagine the struggles for our merry band of castoffs, walking wounded, and rookies.

In terms of the poll, there is absolutely no question that it still comes down to talent. May be Phil wins only 6 or 7 titles without the Triangle, but he still wins a bunch of rings. Who really knows. I think his philosophy of player empowerment has just as much to do with his success as the Triangle offense.

by Rascal Flatts on Nov 18, 2009 4:11 PM CST reply actions  

I think his philosophy of player empowerment has just as much to do with his success as the Triangle offense.

If that’s true, then that bodes well for Rambis (maybe not with this exact crew of guys). I really appreciated Fisher’s interview because it kind of cemented for me the notion that Rambis really is trying to teach these guys-not basketball, really-but a more holistic way of seeing the court and the game. Understanding it in theory and executing it on the court, as we all know, are two very different things.

I play in a summer learning league for Ultimate frisbee, and much of Ultimate’s offensive strategy lives or dies based on simultaneous disc movement and player movement away from the disc. My team two years ago had a lot of people on it who didn’t ‘see’ the offense very well, and it took us a better part of the season to start getting a good offensive flow down. My team this past summer was full of older veterans and I couldn’t believe how much of a difference it made! It really was like Fisher said-when everyone else is where they’re supposed to be, it’s easy for you to figure out where you’re supposed to be.

I’m looking forward tonight to see (in person) if I can figure out who looks like they know where they’re supposed to be and who’s still figuring it out.

"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."

by biggity2bit on Nov 18, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

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