GameThread 4: @ LA Clippers
by wyn on Nov 2, 2009 8:30 PM CST
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Minnesota Timberwolves at Los Angeles Clippers, Nov 2, 2009 9:30 PM CST
Tonight the Wolves face off against two former teammates (well, for 1/3 of the current Wolves at least). Despite their new squad's paper talent (Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Marcus Camby and an injured Blake Griffin really ain't that bad) the Clippers are still 0-fer this year. But that always seems to be the Clips' scene: optimism in the offseason, disappointment in the regular season.
Back to Smith and Telfair, though. I'd like to take this opportunity to lobby for calm if Telfair and Smith, and even Mike Miller and Randy Foye for that matter, have very good years. So far all we've got in return for the 4 players (plus Mark Madsen, Bobby Brown and two 2nd round picks) has been the rights to Ricky Rubio, Damien Wilkins, Oleksiy Pecherov, one 2nd round pick and financial relief.
But despite what Bill Simmons may have you think, the Wolves' roster of years past wasn't going to bring a championship to Minnesota, especially if Kevin McHale, Glen Taylor or whomever was at the reins decided to re-up Miller and Foye to expensive extensions.
Telfair, Smith, Miller and Foye have all looked good so far for their new teams, but I promise you we're better off without them in the long run.
As for the guys who are with us now, tonight will be the next installment in the Jonny Flynn vs. Ramon Sessions saga (the next Hoopus Death Match?) and the next step in Al Jefferson's bid to recover from injury and blend his strengths with what Kurt Rambis is trying to teach the team.
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by TonyO on Nov 2, 2009 8:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ok, before we get started, I want to start a discussion about Rudy Gay
He and the Grizzlies didn’t reach a contract agreement today, so he’s officially an unrestricted free agent next summer. Obviously there’s a lot of talk about him possibly signing with us.
BUT I asked a couple Grizzlies fans about him, and here’s what they said:
I personally don’t think he’s a good fit for this team, but that’s another matter entirely. I think it kind of depends on how the season goes. The Rudy and O.J. feud talk has started to heat up again with their exchange in last night’s fourth quarter. From my point of view O.J. is the closest person we have to a franchise player and if Rudy doesn’t play up to O.J.‘s level then maybe Rudy needs a change of scenery, considering their games don’t really compliment each other well in the first place.
So he and Mayo aren’t getting along…maybe the Grizz would deal him now, when his contract is cheap, out of desperation…?
Don’t think we would midseason but if things go sour between OJ and Rudy then we have no choice
So here’s the question: if we can deal for Gay at the deadline or sooner, should we?
The downside is we give up assets when we could get him just for the money during the summer. And obviously there are doubts about his heart and defensive effort.
The upside though is that, because teams can go over the cap to resign their own players, we theoretically could get Gay and STILL have enough to sign a max free agent this summer.
If the Wolves were to field a lineup of Flynn, Brewer, Gay and Chris Bosh next year….
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 8:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
First of all
he will be a restricted free agent this summer, not unrestricted. Second, he will have a big cap hold, and therefore, even with bird rights, will eat into the available cap room.
Gay doesn’t really excite me too much; I have trouble understanding the infatuation with him.
by Eric in Madison on Nov 2, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Good call, although the UFA/RFA wouldn't matter if we traded for him
I question Gay’s heart as much as anyone, but still, the talent level there is through the roof and I think getting out of Memphis would really help spark his development again. They’re obviously a team in complete disarray….not a good situation for a young player trying to prove himself to be in.
The appeal is that by trading for him now, we’d still maintain our cap space next summer. We could then sign a free agent, and then REsign Gay. A 2-for-1 deal in the end…all it would cost us i probably Gomes and a draft pick.
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bosh
Do we really want this http://www.chris-bosh.com/ for 15 mil a year?
by JiveLive on Nov 2, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bosh would fit very well here
Certainly better than Love or Jefferson. He has the athleticism to run the floor, the length to be a great defender, the passing game to facilitate in the triangle, and still has the scoring ability to command a double team, the same as Jefferson.
Plus, he’s a lot more realistic a target than Wade or LeBron, the only other top tier free agents that would make any sense for us.
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No. We do not.
What have the Raps done with Bosh and similar surrounding talent to what the Wolves would offer? Nothing at all. Let him eat up a third of the salary cap somewhere else. My guess is that unless he’s the 2nd banana to Wade, Dirk, or DRose in Chicago, his ginormous contract will be looked upon in hindsight as a huge waste of money.
by PoorDick on Nov 2, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we Bosh isn't good enough, then we're screwed this summer
I’m a little worried that Wolves fans are developing a “LeBron or bust” attitude for this summer. We’re not the Knicks, and LeBron and Wade aren’t signing here. If we’re not going to pursue Bosh or Rudy Gay, we’ll end up with nothing.
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get that feeling at all
Everyone on this site that I can remember likely sees getting LeBron this as a best possible scenario and highly implausible. I’d be happy with either of those 2 players you mentioned at the right price, but I agree that they’re not the greatest fits either. Big length and athleticism upgrades, though.
I disagree with your point that if we don’t get those 2 guys or the like that we’ll end up with nothing. The cap space is not just useful for a “player x gets a big deal or bust”-style move. It can also be used to add players in trades or to sign multiple high-value players to our roster.
Our team is full of pick and expiring contract assets as well as a few decent player assets that would be useful in facilitating trades to boost our talent and/or our future assets. Much of what Kahn’s done is stockpiling assets and increasing roster flexiblity and value as much as possible to give us as many and as strong of possibilities as he can. This year is all about development, evaluation, and subsequently determining where to go with our reasonably malleable roster situation.
by nja700 on Nov 2, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Nobody’s turning down LBJ, and hell, I’d even take Bosh for about 2/3 of what he’s going to ask for.
But neither Bosh nor LBJ currently have rings, and Wade’s was a few bad calls away from belonging to Dallas. So I’m not sure the cream of the Free Agent Frenzy is going to allow us to pencil in a date for a parade down Hennepin Avenue.
We’re hopefully realistic here, or realistically hopeful. We need a Star, to be sure, but not at any price.
by PoorDick on Nov 2, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we need to resign randy foye
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
then trade him for Brandon Roy. But only in a parallel universe would that happen. (Loved Spock with the Fu Manchu).
by uncle rico on Nov 2, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean for Tony Parker :p
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It depends on the price
Personally, I’m not a fan of Rudy Gay (he seems to be regressing year to year), but if they could send him to Memphis for, say Pavlovic and Pecherov, I would certainly consider it. The thing is that the Wolves don’t have any mid-level prospects that could be attractive (except Brewer, but extending him pretty much guarantees that the Wolves don’t want to trade him) and he’s not worth Sessions, Flynn, Rubio, Love, or Jefferson.
Personally, I’d much rather have the Wolves try to lure Josh Childress over from Greece.
by McCleak on Nov 2, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
None of our former players (Miller, Foye, Smith, Telfair) were going to be good enough to help us win a championship, so we’re better off parting ways with them as soon as possible. That seems to be the argument. Still, by that criteria I don’t know if any of our current team fits, either. In fact, the vast majority of players on EVERY team should be jettisoned. Time to churn the roster some more. And Gay, Bosh, Thornton, Joe Johnson, etc. aren’t exactly leading their current teams to the big time, so how is it, exactly, that if they come here things will be different? NONE are big enough stars. I know people here look for the best in the team, but if the moves that have happened had occurred under McHale rather than Kahn, would they be viewed in the same light? That fact is, that among the major league sports, pro basketball is not like, say, baseball, in the likelihood that a less than super strong team will win the championship (This excepts this year’s contenders in the Phillies & Yanks, two super strong teams). Most years you can pretty well predict the small handful of teams with a chance to win it all. Transcendent players like Duncan, Bryant, LeBron, Howard, & Garnett have a shot, but only if they are buttressed by other all-stars only one rung below them (i.e. Gasol, Pierce, Ginobli, etc.) We will have to draft the transcendent player. Other methods of obtaining one are a pipe dream.
by ogishkemuncie on Nov 2, 2009 9:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If McHale was here
Rambis, Wohl, Theus, and Laimbeer wouldn’t be here. My optimism for the Wolves, if we’re looking at sources, is due to:
this staff > current players
competent front office + multiple picks + expirings > resigning Foye and Miller, and probably Maddog.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the value will be in a trade with our expirings/assets with a team that has fiscal/lineup issues. This free agent class does not excite me.
by revprodeji on Nov 2, 2009 9:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd like the phrase "better off without them"
changed to “not any worse in the long run without them.” Say what you will, but if healthy and coached by Rambis, my guess is that last year’s line-up beats this year’s line-up 3 out of 4 times.
by PoorDick on Nov 2, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
anyone having luck
with a stream? atdhe not doin it…
by secretarykissinger on Nov 2, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thanks man....
looks like atdhe back up now too
by secretarykissinger on Nov 2, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me...
Or did the headshot in FSN North’s pregame player profile of Blake Griffin look photoshopped? And crudely so? It was a huge neck and a whole head where the face should be while slightly off to the side. Strange.
by nja700 on Nov 2, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kaman has been killing it
He needs to go back to his ax-murderer haircut.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 9:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he prefers .50 cal
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nightmares
for sure tonight. and not from Al’s ‘pass’
How scary is a 7-foot balding mullet giant gun toting redneck?
(No offense just playing here)
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
from michigan no less
that was a scary gang. i have family like that and…well, i love em but they scare me a bit.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody think that under his bandana...
Bret Michaels’ hair looks just like Kamen’s??
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it does..
….i worked with a woman who…well…she was very proud of what she did and she talked non-stop about it. she was surprised about his thin hair.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Al didn't even try to play help defense on that one
At least step in
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"not overly dependent on athleticism"
nice summary of al there
by secretarykissinger on Nov 2, 2009 9:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why is Pecherov guarding Chris Kaman...?
At least put him on Camby where he won’t get posted up on
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Flynn initiating much better so far
and still taking pnr’s when available. Good sign.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys, hope you don’t mind a Spurs fan joining in.
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not at all..
…just leave our bats alone.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, he still has 4 more sessions of shots
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Manu catch bat with bare hands can accomplish anything
Mr. Miyagi
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering
How long it would take before a bat-themed response.
by nja700 on Nov 2, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For the love of Pete why?
Miss the Bob Weiss era?
Kidding. Seriously, an outside perspective would be interesting.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome..sir
I hope things around here don’t get too batty for you. :D
by TonyO on Nov 2, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure that’s impossible haha
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice of Blake Griffin to dress up
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow , that was a sad inbounds attempt....
No one moved…
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ok that’s embarrasing… How can we not inbound the ball.
by jballer_13 on Nov 2, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Who is more country..
….brad miller, brian cardinal or chris kaman?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 10:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brad Miller, the other 2 just look like cavemen
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Non since they’re both blonde
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Cardinal went to Stanford, so that probably disqualifies him a little. Also, the term I find more appropriate for Kaman is “backwoods”.
by nja700 on Nov 2, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinal seems more like a hunchback to me
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The hunchback has got to be Pecherov, his neck is always at a 45 degree angle
by Ebomb on Nov 2, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He can't help it..
..his head is like a football balancing on a pencil.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Madsen went to Stanford
Cardinal went to Purdue
Right?
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, you're correct
I don’t know why I thought that was the case. Either way, he just doesn’t seem as likely to end up hunting muskrats on the porch of his bog-shack after he retires as Kaman does.
by nja700 on Nov 2, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The answer to this question is...
Kevin Pittsnogle
by Funkle Jesse on Nov 2, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With Gordon playing the 2 for the Clips it would be nice to see them try Jonny and Ramon together.
by jballer_13 on Nov 2, 2009 10:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jawai is enormous...
…and he almost killed Eric Gordon with that pick
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 10:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jawai...I see why they call him Baby Shaq, Jesus Christ
by TonyO on Nov 2, 2009 10:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Flynn must feel right at home with Jawai on the court
He’s big and beefy like his Syracuse center, Arinze Onuaku
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BIG NATHAN JAWAI!!!!!! THROWIN THE HAMMER DOWN!
by TonyO on Nov 2, 2009 10:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kudos to you, sir.
Judd: "...I've since watched some Steven Seagal movies and I realise that pressure points are no laughing matter.".
by Auswolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Playing like Brian Cardinal:
So easy a caveman can do it
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope you aren’t implying that anyone could be a custodian?
by Ebomb on Nov 2, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
According to Sean Elliot, yes
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are we playing this lineup?
Jawai, Pavlovic, Cardinal, Sessions and Ellington
by Ebomb on Nov 2, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, we’re still starting Finley and Bonner…
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
8th spot in west
Who you got?
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How many of our shots have been rejected already?
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Six
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uhg!
Isn’t it bad enough that we can barely draw iron anyway???
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Multiple lay-ups. But they do have Kaman, Camby, and Jordan, so somewhat expected. Though 6 is too many.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
the sound of that really hurts
by uncle rico on Nov 2, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah especially the Clippers part
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sasha 0-4 this quarter
Wolves 0-6
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Prime Ticket interviewing Love?
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It’s just weird that the local broadcast is interviewing an opposing player
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by sw12 on Nov 2, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That last move by Big Al shows that the legs definately aren’t there
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 10:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Big Al to Sessions to Gomes…that was a nice sequence!
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sessions needs to be posting up Telfair.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 10:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Al looks pretty timid
settling for those one handed shots.
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 10:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good god
Why does Al not have a rebound yet?!
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lost the stream and can't watch the game but
I like how the Wolves can linger, even though they are being outplayed in certain aspects of the game. Speculation as to why?
by uncle rico on Nov 2, 2009 10:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
turnovers
thats been pretty consistent so far this year. They minimize their own turnovers.
by Eric in Madison on Nov 2, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they don't turn it over...
….and they get offensive rebounds.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's amazing
when you look at their FG % and the opponents. But they’re getting to line a lot more, too.
by uncle rico on Nov 2, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We've taken 11 more shots
and made 3 less
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They dont have a lot of size
but they seem to be in the right places to get offensive rebounds……as Corey Brewer just demonstrates….
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good god
the Clips are 18-26 from the field
by Eric in Madison on Nov 2, 2009 10:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
.667 shooting
Incredible.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, when I first looked at the box score
they were shooting .900!
by uncle rico on Nov 2, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewer knocking a couple down...Pavs is a non-factor out there
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 10:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Flynn's best game so far
Pavs worst
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can we send Brewer to
layup school?
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
if he made even just a couple of those
…just sayin… so close, yet so far!
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how about Free-throw school while we are at it?
by TonyO on Nov 2, 2009 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
NS.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewer-Pavs 3/14 FG
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow...
…so i turn on the radio broadcast and they’ve really hit the bottom of the barrel with their ads.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 10:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can only listen to baseball games
on the radio
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and after 10 minutes of wolves action...
…i now belong to that club as well.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball on the radio =
= something to do while painting the house.
by timmuggs on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coming up at half...
60 seconds with Damien Wilkens. It that the over/under on his burn tonight?
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 10:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd be great to be in the locker room..
When Rambis confronts AlJeff tonight:
Rambis: Al, you were double or tripled team all night, pass the ball!
Al (pointing to Pecherov): I don’t have to if he doesn’t have to.
Rambis: Fair enough. Stewie, you should pass the ball on at least 33% of your touches. And when Corey is shooting, will everyone PLEASE go for the inevitable rebound?!
by Boss10 on Nov 2, 2009 10:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brewer should be able to shut down Gordon
He’s just as quick and 6 inches taller
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cardinal really shouldnt
be putting the ball on the floor.
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I know this isn't the consensus on this site...
But I’ll say it. I think Flynn is clearly better than Sessions. Good lord, he’s quick.
by LoveTo on Nov 2, 2009 10:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Flynn will have his ups and downs this year
like most rookies……
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seen, now Al looks like he fits in tonight
He’s moving the ball, he’s making good decisions. Still missing open guys sometimes, but the offense is moving and he’s part of it.
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 10:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So he's getting better?
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i know it wouldn't make a good marketing slogan for the wolves....
…but opposing teams should pitch wolves games with something along the lines of “come see this game, you won’t believe the shots the other guys will miss.”
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
Has a coach ever asked a guy to pass up the layup?
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just give brewer some time
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it will happen
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if a man can be intentionally walked with the bases loaded...
….this can happen as well
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But the guy who got walked was a threat to score :)
If he would just stop the 900mph drives into traffic and just take the spot up jumpers I’d be fine with him. He’s ended 17 possesions and we have 12 points as a result, and that includes 9 layup attempts or tips. Let’s give half of those to somebody else.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see someone unveil the 'Brewer D'
whenever brewer gets the ball, the whole team just abandons him, tries to give him a lane to the hole so he’ll try to score
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
by Prevenge on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
6 minutes for Sessions in the 1st half
not enough Rambis
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Flynn has been playing really well
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by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And we're really missing Love's rebounding
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not possible to miss like that ALL THE TIME Corey
how many lay-ups does that guy miss? Arghh.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've counted at least three
If he converts those, it’s a 54-57 ball game and Brewer’s got 12 points on 6 of 12 shooting.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 10:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hollins 3 PF's in 1:45
Really?
Judd: "...I've since watched some Steven Seagal movies and I realise that pressure points are no laughing matter.".
by Auswolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
SnP is right...
Brewer is the right position to make shots frequently, but he can’t knock down the jumper or finish in the lane.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 10:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Here's hoping
That our player development coach is good at helping guys find their shooting stroke.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was obvious in camp..
…dude is going to have open shot after open shot after open shot.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It isn't so much the 25% for Corey
It’s the 12 shots. He’s being too aggressive. He’s trying to score of dribble drives, pump fake escape dribbles, spot-up jumpers. He’s taking shots he doesn’t have to or that don’t necessarily come out of the offense. Not his role.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Saints keep marching
Will beat Falcons
by uncle rico on Nov 2, 2009 10:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
they are the team to beat in the NFC no doubt
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 10:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With the Vikes secondary
I have to concur. Brees would pick them apart like
by uncle rico on Nov 2, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pfft.
The Saints are the ’98 Vikes.
The Vikes are the 09’ Vikes, and their Super Bowl win will be glorious.
by princelyfrank on Nov 3, 2009 12:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What we need is a scoring wing player so Brewer doesn't have to shoot so much
Because the rest of Corey’s game is on…2 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, no turnovers. We just don’t have any scoring punch on the wings and Corey just happens to find himself open the most.
As for Pecherov, I’ve seen folding chairs that play better defense than he does.
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 10:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If anyone needs comic relief...
take a sec and Google the latest on the Manu v. the bat story. He is giving advice on rabies prevention and “animals to avoid” on his facebook page.
by PDGirl on Nov 2, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I am still laughing at PETA's response to the incident
Here’s our take on it: To bludgeon a 4-ounce animal to death, it takes either a small man or a totally unthinking one-with no respect or consideration for lives humbler than his own. This is a time when athletes in particular need to be on their best behavior around any animal and show that they have brains and a heart, not just reactionary brawn.
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for treating animals well
But rabies is no laughing matter. I think only one person in U.S. history has ever survived rabies without getting the shots.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Corey's night
misses 20 ft jumper, lay-up, 27 footer blocked, 21 ft jumper, tip shot, layup, blocked layup, 21 ft jumper, layup
makes 7 ft jumper, 12 ft jumper, 20 ft jumper,
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Whoops, premature post-ulation
6 attempts at the rim, 2 FTs, both missed and no makes.
Dude is 6’8" with springs in his shoes. This is unpossible.
Shoot open jumpers and dunks.
Stop forcing it Corey.
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think he will ever be much of a shooter
but I will give him a few weeks. He missed a lot of time last year.
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
with the exception of the blocked jumper, Corey’s shots have been open.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
BUt often off the dribble, so
not really open or a shot he NEEDS to take.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pech has no lift, even when shooting.
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewer misses another layup
half surprised he didn’t blow that dunk
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 11:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Corey Brewer dribbles the ball like a 5 year old – eyes up Corey!
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Finally
7 empty attempts at the rim contested and finally an open court dunk.
Thank you Corey
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey Corey finally made a layup
Maybe the coaches should just try to get him to dunk everything.
Pretty pass by Al there too. I maintain he’s always had the ability, McHale just never asked him to use it.
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Still doesn't come naturally to him...
He’s missed some wide open guys. But it’s an encouraging sign.
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Al, your man jumped at you...
..lean in and get the foul every so often. Don’t spin away every time.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
For all the talk about our offense
being a work in progress, when is our defense going to show up? We could actually win some of these games if we contested even half the open looks other teams are getting against us.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 2, 2009 11:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Am I hallucinating?
Or is a front line of Pecherov, Al, and Gomes actually marginally effective on both ends of the floor right now?
by Jon Marthaler on Nov 2, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Eric Gordon
is a nice player, but I think the Clips’ announcers think he is one of the top 3 SGs in the NBA.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 11:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not when he throws the ball right into Brewers hands when Corey’s two feet in front of him….
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jefferson isn't doing much on the boards tonight
checking in with 3
by bheidge on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice local announcers
“The Wolves are basically Jefferson, Love and a bunch of guys who may not belong in the league, except for Sessions and Flynn”.
by dropstep on Nov 2, 2009 11:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thornton/Brewer
During their rookie years, I thought Thornton was significantly better than Brewer. As much as Brewer struggles, I’m not sure who is better now.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 11:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Watch Thornton for 5 games
You’ll convinced he is the most selfish player ever. He can, however, make the occasional layup.
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They're complete opposites
Corey’s an incredibly smart player who has trouble with body control. Thornton’s got great strength and body control, but he’s just so stupid on the court. It’s like looking at a 240 lbs version of Gerald Green.
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thornton is worse
He’s Zack Randolph, only dumber.
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
by Prevenge on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewer is as close as it gets to camp in the nba..
…he’s so bad he’s good. if john waters has a favorite player, my bet is that brewer is his guy.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Pink flamingo
Corey has the skinny legs to play the part
by uncle rico on Nov 3, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ryan Hollins can float
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Memphis-Sacramento has been awesome. Don’t tell me I’m the only one watching. Gay just hit a clutch 3.
by museum on Nov 2, 2009 11:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
108 all
it’s been a fun game
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
did the iranian player see the court opposite casspi?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know he planned on shaking his hand.
by museum on Nov 2, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good, I have him on my fantasy team - but I'm only watching during the commercials.
by Boss10 on Nov 2, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The more I see of Gay the more I like him.
by museum on Nov 2, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great pass there with 6 secs left
by secretarykissinger on Nov 2, 2009 11:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
although...
..it is a bit jarring to watch the kings feed with a guy with a southern drawl.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i keep thinking...
…“why isn’t he rooting for memphis?”
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fresh in from his ranch in the san joaquin valley
by secretarykissinger on Nov 2, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that is where all the okies ended up after the dust bowl..
…right? ;)
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think so....
back in the gold ol pre-irrigation days!
by secretarykissinger on Nov 2, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This has been a clutchfest all the way.
I have some Tropicalia music going, but it looks like I’ve got the Kings feed.
AI took 5 minutes to go from passive to “I’ll be taking this shot” earlier.
by museum on Nov 2, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinal with the rare...
…save to a guy out of bounds.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He thought Hollins could float...
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by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who knew Hollins had such a sweet midrange jumper?
If he can learn to limit his fouls, he could be a starter someday
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No way. If Hollins can stay on the court for 35 minutes without fouling out, he’s Tyson Chandler
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think hollins is controlled by a puppeteer...
…in the rafters. holy crap can that guy jump.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
it's good to see that the rhino..
…still doesn’t get any calls. at least we know it wasn’t the blue unis that were doing that.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. Back to back charges, and that one on Hollins was totally a foul on Ryan
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hollins > Rhino
different players obviously, but I’d rather have Hollins.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow..
…this game is turning frantic
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Was that a behind-the-back from Brewer....?
Where did those handles come from???
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
stunning brilliance followed immediately by stunning incompetence
such is the corey brewer package
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He did in the first half on the spin-move in the bucket
…and I was like wtf…? But I think I might have diagnosed his struggles with dribbling – the last dribble before going behind his back, it looked like he was dribbling with his palms. He should be using his fingertips more and flicking his wrists, otherwise it’s like dribbling with a closed fist. Anyone else notice this?
by Boss10 on Nov 2, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewer goes behind the back – and I have a heart attack
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 11:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
when was the last time flynn saw the court?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Right when he dribbled into the TO early in the third
Got yanked. Too bad, I thought he was doing great.
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Um, right now
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just going to ask if he got hurt or something
Weird after his strong first half
by Eric in Madison on Nov 2, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where the hell was Al...?
Hello? Defense????
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Clips
I realize Griffin is hurt, but is there a team gets less out of its talent than Clippers? This team has playoff level talent and they absolutely suck.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 11:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
To paraphrase Churchill...
Only Dunlevy could do so little with so much
by SoDakHmr on Nov 2, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, NICE STEAL from Corey
Talk about coming out of nowhere
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
6 assists, 5 steals, and 2 blocks...
…if only he could shoot, dribble, and catch
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brew should lead the league in steals.
And it doesn’t take away from his on-ball defense. The guy is amazing at coming up with the ball.
by Andy G on Nov 2, 2009 11:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he’s turning into the next Gerald Wallace out there. Now he just needs to stop shooting so much.
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by Xand1 on Nov 2, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Except Gerald Wallace could throw down
If Brewer could finish at the rim, he’d be so much more fun to watch.
by aarendsvark on Nov 3, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah, there is that, but from a disruption standpoint he’s all over the place in a way that reminds me of Wallace. Check out that box: 6 assists, 5 steals, 4 boards, 2 blocks.
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by Xand1 on Nov 3, 2009 7:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jonny, Jonny
4 TOs in the 2nd half in about 3 minutes. And it started so well
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That’s why he got benched early. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets benched again now
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
eh, maybe
but if you are going to commit to playing a rookie point guard, your going to get some TOs. It isn’t as if this has been constant in the first 3 games.
by Eric in Madison on Nov 2, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think it's eventually going to be a deeper problem...
….because sessions is getting the offense and can ball on d.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I agree
I think Sessions is a better player right now and should be playing more.
by Eric in Madison on Nov 2, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hollins
Hollilns should watch every game Camby has ever played.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 11:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
turnovers starting to mount a little
something I thought we’d see more of
by Eric in Madison on Nov 2, 2009 11:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brewer completely out of control, but tip-in by Al
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 2, 2009 11:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
btw...
….casspi can play. the kings got a good player.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
He has played very well so far. I was wondering how he slipped past so many teams in the draft.
by Boss10 on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dude...
…is scrappy
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yup, it would seem so. looked like a rudy-like slasher, though maybe i’m just making the stereotypical foreigner comparison.
by museum on Nov 2, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i bet he can kill bats too
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re really coming with the good lines tonight.
by museum on Nov 3, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At least you didn't say
that Casspi was “good with money.”
by PoorDick on Nov 3, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Clips seem determined to lose this game.
Hm, maybe that should be their motto for the season: “The Los Angeles Clippers, we may have more talent than you, but no one works harder at losing!”
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by Xand1 on Nov 2, 2009 11:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We cannont rebound worth anything tonight
We’d be ahead by 10 if we could just keep the Clippers off the offensive glass
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If only..
..we had a tremendous rebounding PF. If only.
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 2, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is definitely a game...
..where not having love hurts in a bad way.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 2, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
…I was more indicting Al for only having 4 boards in 34 minutes…
by Oceanary on Nov 2, 2009 11:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
We got less than nothing across the board from Cardinal, Jawai, Pavs, Ellington, Wilkins in about 46 minutes total. Give 32 of those to Love and I think we are okay.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whatchu think? Double screen for Brewer who airballs a 3??
by Boss10 on Nov 2, 2009 11:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this is going right to al
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone comes up with a contested 2 after being unable to run a play for a 3.
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by Xand1 on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did not see that one happening.
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by Xand1 on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Confirmed:
Hollins can float.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
OMG Ryan Hollins killed somone
That was SICK
by Oceanary on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
how is that not a foul?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
They reshowed it
No excuses for that not being called.
by McCleak on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bad shot at the end
why did we not call a timeout?
by GHACAN BLACKSTAR on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hollins has to submit his resume as a legit NBA player to the refs union. After a careful review and numerous blown calls they might just decide that he deserves fair treatment.
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by Xand1 on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What does it take to get a call?
by GHACAN BLACKSTAR on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a long process. Lots of paperwork and such.
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by Xand1 on Nov 3, 2009 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear that it is harder than
getting US citizenship. There is a questionnaire, pouting lessons, a popularity vote and an arbitrary ruling by some unknown authority. Very cloak and dagger.
by TheEvilProfessor on Nov 3, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow...
…hooray refs! not the guy you want shooting the final shot and i know it’s hard to get a whistle in the final seconds, but holy crap.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
So relieved
We won’t be falling the the draft.
by Boss10 on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Wolves fall after a hideous shot by Brewer
Pretty much the story of the season, I think.
by McCleak on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think they were out
at any rate, Corey Brewer taking 21 shots is not a formula for winning.
by Eric in Madison on Nov 3, 2009 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
timeout...
I think we’re saving it for next game… Rambis I think he should of called the timeout and then rallied the troops… get some shooters out there… Wheres Wayne and Sasha? Even Pecherov…. Okay i didnt just say Pechy… my bad
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for the record
boss10 called the brewer airball minutes ago!
by secretarykissinger on Nov 3, 2009 12:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
that was pretty good
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 3, 2009 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, let me be the first to predict this for next game: Brewer throws up an airball off the dribble, then comes down and makes a sweet steal on the next play to make up for it and then dribbles it off his foot while running the break that he started after receiving a pass from the PG. Oh, and there’s going to be an airball too.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
by Xand1 on Nov 3, 2009 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I need to go to bed.. didn’t notice I repeated myself. Oh well, let’s just say it’ll probably happen twice.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
by Xand1 on Nov 3, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure it’s funnier when you say it twice.
by Boss10 on Nov 3, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see Hollins starting until Love gets back.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 3, 2009 12:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hollins has hops
SNP said it over the summer… THE MOST ATHLETIC BIG we’ve ever had.
by GHACAN BLACKSTAR on Nov 3, 2009 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he had one dunk...
…in one of the morning sessions in camp where he went over the entire defending team. it was unbelievable. he double planted from in the middle of the lane and then BAM he was at the rim. it’s crazy.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 3, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait for Love to get back...
with Al and Hollins. Could be the start of something good.
by SoDakHmr on Nov 3, 2009 12:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
what about the black hole? I’ve only seen old men at the YMCA shoot like Pecherov
by GHACAN BLACKSTAR on Nov 3, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the 45 degree angle comment
…from earlier, in reference to Pecherov’s neck. Just, wow..
by Boss10 on Nov 3, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the most I’ve seen of Ellington…looked a little lead-footed…can he create his own shot?
by TWolvesFanInLA on Nov 3, 2009 12:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Um, kind of
I’ve mostly only seen him in college. He can shoot off the dribble pretty smoothly. In fact, everything he does is pretty smooth. But I wouldn’t make him the focal point of an offense. He does what he does.
by aarendsvark on Nov 3, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Y'know...we could have won this with Hollins starting...
Because what put us down early was Pech getting abused by Kaman
by Oceanary on Nov 3, 2009 12:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ignoring the fact
that Pech outscored him over that time.
by dropstep on Nov 3, 2009 12:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wolves vs Warriors
If there is anyone in the bay area that wants to go to the game next week lets gather a group to go trump the “We Believe” Warriors.
by GHACAN BLACKSTAR on Nov 3, 2009 12:15 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I’m an ex-510’er. Back in the MPLS now though. Go to the In-N-Out across 880 from the Oracle for me.
by museum on Nov 3, 2009 12:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, this was the wrong time of day to bring up In-N-Out while sitting in MN. Oh the pain. Sounds….so…..good.
by museum on Nov 3, 2009 12:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
animal style
i’m gonna head over there right now, thanks for planting the idea…
by secretarykissinger on Nov 3, 2009 12:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You SOB
This summer my girlfriend and I drove from MN to LA to Seattle and back, and because of her anti-fast food stance I only got one In-N-Out experience during that whole three weeks. In St George, UT no less. They had some In-N-Out Utah shirts for sale, thought about buying one, but didn’t. Kind of regret that now.
by museum on Nov 3, 2009 12:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Har!
I think it must be rare to get called an “SOB” these days, that seems like such a 70s, Martin Scorsese type epithet. Love it. Anyway, here’s a little something to bring In-N-Out back to ’sota:
http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/news/prince-apologizes-to-la-fans-t/
by secretarykissinger on Nov 3, 2009 1:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Kurt Rambis' interviews
We lucked out big time getting him to coach us. He’s patient and incredibly intelligent. Not only does he know his stuff, he can teach it, and do it in a way that comes across as a mentor rather than a dictator.
by Oceanary on Nov 3, 2009 12:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
How does Rambis not call a timeout to set up something on the FINAL posession?
They had a chance but geez, the Wolves got jobbed by their own coach on that one.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It didn't make sense.
Watching it in real time you could see the disaster unfolding without a pause to draw up the scheme. But there was some speculation on here earlier that there were no timeouts left to call….
by secretarykissinger on Nov 3, 2009 1:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
They DEFINITELY had a timeout. Just verified it on my DVR.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 3, 2009 2:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rambis said in his post game interview that they simply didn’t have a play to run. All the focus has been on learning the triangle, so those last shot scenarios haven’t been practiced.
by Oceanary on Nov 3, 2009 2:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me?
His excuse was that they haven’t practiced a single play in a scenario where they are down by 3 with the last shot? Becaaauuuse, THAT would never happen?
How about using the timeout to advance the ball? How about using the timeout to get the right personel on the floor? How about at least drawing something up and trusting that your players know what a play looks like on a clipboard? How about using a fricking timeout so we don’t have to watch an entire’s game effort come down to an off balance fade away 3 pointer that falls two feet in front of the rim?
Rambis should be ashamed of himself. That’s barely an excuse. These guys are pro’s and I guarantee you that every one of them has been in that situation before on another team. My Y-Club coach in 5 grade knew how to draw a play on a clip board and trust that we would run something similar on the floor. In fact in 5th grade many of us couldn’t hit the rim with a 3 pointer and the resulting play looked a lot like the one last night.
I enjoy watching the T-Wolves play, but they are certainly a team with a lot of mismatching parts at the moment, which is why they need to be on point with coaching more than ever. It was difficult to watch. I wonder what Phil Jackson thinks of that kind of effort?
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 3, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are forgetting that
the wolves have been rather upfront that this year’s goal was not to win as many games as possible, but to teach the players how to play the new offense and improve their games. Don’t put the wagon in front of the horse here. You don’t teach the fine points before you teach the basics. He is letting them struggle in order to identify weaknesses. The fact that Brewer was the only one trying to make his presence known at the end is pretty telling. But we already knew that the wolves needed some better shooters, didn’t we?
by TheEvilProfessor on Nov 3, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
So you don’t think there was an opportunity to “teach” by calling a timeout and drawing up a play on a clipboard?
I’m sorry but the Wolve’s should be up front about winning ANY game possible. They’ll be in the lottery if that’s the goal, but if they create a culture where nobody WANTS to win then guess what… They’ll have a team full of losers.
There is a big, huge, astronomical difference between being realistic about your chances of competing at the level you want to, and not even TRYING with the game on the line.
Maybe that all sits well with you, and I get that, but it’s still the coaches job to put the team in a position to be successful… Unless successfull means losing as many games as possible… In which case why even show up? Or why even watch? I just don’t don’t buy that logic, and I don’t believe that’s what happened.
And FYI, drawing up a play in that scenario is pretty “basic”, it’s hardly a “fine point” of basketball at all. IMO.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 3, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I will answer your Q with a Q
If you were a head coach who had no pressure to win a certain number of games your first year but will be expected to continue to improve year after year, do you want to win close games your first year? Or do you want a better pick?
I think that Rambis is the latter, but doesn’t want to play poorly just to get the L. There is a difference (however slight) between what Rambis is doing and what the wolves did years ago by having mad dog chuck up 3s. Rambis wants them to play the concept and if they win…they win. He benefits from 1. not showing his preferred last minute plays to his future opposition, 2. improving his draft pick, and 3. not teaching his players how not to play during the game.
by TheEvilProfessor on Nov 3, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Will some people
be upset about this? Sure. But I will say that it is more fun to watch this team lose than last years team win (even if they didn’t do that frequently).
by TheEvilProfessor on Nov 3, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry but...
History has proven this to be a disasterous method of running your franchise.
- - It’s a LOTTERY at the end of the year. Having the worst record does not guarantee the best pick. As a Minnesota fan you should be keenly aware of this fact (look no further than Derrick Rose in a Chicago Bulls uniform in fact). It’s quite simply a dumb business plan to assume your pick will be anything but the worst it could be (ie: LAST in the LOTTERY).
- - If you still think that tanking and cultivating high draft picks is any indication of progress, well, look no further than the Clippers (the team that beat the Wolve’s last night ironically) to prove otherwise. All that team has done is cultivate high draft picks for years, and all THAT has done is CREATE A CULTURE OF LOSING that has mired the franchise as one of the worst of all time. Seriously, the Clippers are often regarded as one of (if not THE) worst professional sports franchises.
Lastly, if you truly believe that Rambis didn’t run a play last night because he doesn’t want future teams to scout his awesome last second plans… I’m not sure if I should laugh or just shut up now.
Oh, one more thing (I lied) “not teaching his players how not to play during the game.” WTF? Are you serious with this?
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 3, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Those were supposed to be...
points one and two. Stupid formatting, you get the idea.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
First
you didn’t answer my question.
secondly, there is a difference between not doing everything to win and playing to lose. If you can’t see that, I am not going to explain it to you.
Thirdly, the Clippers suck for many many reasons. But mostly because the tone at the top sent by the owner. All of his decisions are based off of making the most money…not putting out the best product. If you think Taylor hired Rambis, Theus, Wohl, etc. to be coaches only to make more money this year like the clippers you would be wrong.
Fourthly, I never said “AWESOME” plays. mostly I was just BSing as I am extremely busy at work right now. Rambis is the kind of guy who will write up a play and then explain why it works that way (to get player buy in), you can’t do that during a game, so he didn’t. That’s what I mean by teaching during the game.
Lastly, when most coaches tank, they start calling stupid things. That’s what I meant by him not allowing players to play poorly and develop bad habits in order to lose the game
by TheEvilProfessor on Nov 3, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
woah buddy...
I’m sorry you are so busy at work that your self described BS posting is causing some confusion as to Rambis’ intent, but honestly your excuses are reading like a steaming hot pile of garbage. Just my opinion.
To answer your question though, I think I made it quite clear that if I’m the coach of ANY team I’m going to try and win every game possible. I think Kurt Rambis does too. Therein lies the problem. He’ll learn, but damn it’s been tough to watch so far.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 3, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
it is just your opinion.
by TheEvilProfessor on Nov 4, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Khalid El-Amin
Has an incredible point.
I agree with him but completly disagree with you EvilProfessor because you dont want to lose, just so you can teach mistakes. How about winning games and still teach your players the mistakes that they made (Like every other Professional/Collegiate team does in the nation)? I’d much rather win a lot of games while sucking then lose every game for a hope at getting the first pick in the draft
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Nov 4, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on the egregious "no play designed" incident
First big firerambis.com moment. Not that the play would have necessarily mattered, nor would the win have been a big deal in the long run.
But not having a play?? Not able to create one on the spot?? And then admitting it afterward?? Because you were running the Star Drill in practice or something???
How long would it take to implement a down-by-three inbounds play in practice, anyway? 15 minutes? A half-hour, tops?
by PoorDick on Nov 3, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Watching that final possession, all I could think was “Hey, nobody out there can shoot a 3-pointer.” I mean, Gomes kind of can, and Brewer’s hit a couple before, but that’s it.
Where was Ellington, Sasha, Flynn, Pech? Guys who might hit that shot?
Almost made me think Rambis wanted to lose the game, which is not something I’m looking for out of our head coach. It’s fine if Kahn doesn’t mind losing games, but it seems like Rambis should be trying to win them.
by princelyfrank on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
If the intention was to keep the game within striking distance on the previous two posessions by going for easy twos and making Butler shoot free throws on the other end, then what was the point if you don’t capitalize when you have the chance? They would have been better off just giving up with 50 something seconds left and the game already 3 magical points out of reach.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 3, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought i heard that too..
…but i wasn’t really paying too much attention at that point. it seemed pretty weird.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 3, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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