It's Like That, Game Thread #8; Run TMC Time
Minnesota Timberwolves at Golden State Warriors, Nov 9, 2009 9:30 PM CST

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New Lineup tonight..going small
Al @ Center, Gomes @ PF,Brewer @ SF, Ellington @ SG and Flynn @ PG
how is anthony randolph not startin gfor this team?
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Makes me wanna...
Start a laughably premature “get really-high upside player on trainwreck organization” movement. What’s the most absurdly lowball offer somebody will sincerely think is legitimate? And how can we make it happen? I’d take either of their lanky, potential-filled forwards that get far less playing time than they deserve.
On a more serious note, Mikki Moore is STARTING AT CENTER for the Warriors. More proof that Nellie has gone from mad genius to evil, destructive genius. Neither Nellie or Mikki should even be in the league anymore. Yuck.
Ellington is going to be my favorite player...
…by the end of the year. I can already tell it.
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:)
I think of all the wing players on the team, he has the best chance to settle into a 25-35 mpg 2 way player.
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Other stream
http://www.atdhe.net/index.html
also works, kinda, at least for Mac
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Flynn is looking nice!
Moore is setting some nice screens. Now to start watching if they are illegal and not getting called.
Why does FSN struggle with instant replay
Great pass by Flynn with a dunk by AL, and we can’t get a replay, but they show Brewer falling on the ground with a rebound. Come on!
Give the ball to Flynn
…on every possession right now. Heat check the hell out of it for 2-3 possessions.
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T-
Are all your comments showing up twice on your screen, or just mine?
Another small backcourt...
…are we going to see Jonny and Ramon?
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Flynn's TOs...
..the total isn’t so bad. However, I am concerned that so many appear to be coming off the dribble – carries, getting picked, losing control. A little concerned – just a little -with his handle right now.
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Nellie's thinking
Is that he needs to spare Randolph who is both a foul magnet and typically overmatched at center. With Beiderens and Turiaf on the bench, Randolph is the only other player of size on the squad. So, Nellie won’t start him in order to keep him out of foul trouble. Or so he says.
I think it was a Kawakami article
That posited that Nellie won’t play Biedrins and Randolph at the same time because neither of them shoot threes, which he almost requires every player on his teams to do. Most teams in the league would love having 3 left-handed near-7-footers with upside on their roster, and it seems like Nellie hates it.
Doesn’t make sense as to why he can’t just put Randolph at his more natural position of power forward. It’s not like Mikki Moore does anything better to the point that he should be playing at all, let alone over one of your possible future cornerstones. Seriously, just clean house except for the players (actually, get rid of S-Jax) like we did. That organization is worse than ours was, and I like the players on that team too much to watch the inexcusable crap the coach and FO are putting the fans through.
Nice tidbit...
…Jerry West gave Cardinal his 6/$36M contract! Nice.
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there's actually a sweet story behind that
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Here you go:
An exceptionally well-connected league insider once told me the story of how Brian Cardinal got his mid-level. Seems Memphis owner Michael Heisley, frustrated by general manager Jerry West’s lack of activity, walked into West’s office one day and asked why he hadn’t signed anyone yet. So an exasperated West picked up his phone, called Cardinal’s agent and offered the mid-level on the spot. Then he turned to Heisley and said something along the lines of “There, you happy now?”
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Wow
Seemingly unbelievable, but West can be stubborn. And given the whole Pau, Z-Bo, AI sequence of events, Heisley is nuts. Incredible though.
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...I got nuthin but time :)
Care to share? halftime?
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Here's the link
http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsider/archives/2007/07/jump_the_gun_an.html
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Gotta give props to Kahn for acquiring Jawai
No one had heard of him anywhere in the league, but look at his upside.
Jawai just has to get into better shape..He's a little overweight.
Has the Potential to be what shaq was in his prime,
Comment of the Year !!!!!!!
The Contest is over.
by Jose Cordoba on Nov 9, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Over Ellington?
You have to remember we are Rebuilding..Iverson isn’t the kinda guy that Likes Rebuilding..he’s a me first type player..that would not work under Rambis..Iverson would have to realize that Big Al is the Main guy on the team..not him..I don’t see it happening
To his credit
I don’t think he is looking to be the #1 option, he just wants to start. Granted maybe when he gets that he will want more…
Ok.
I just thought he could give us some help at SG for one season, possibly teach some of our guards.
Teach them what?
How to use your ridiculous physical gifts to be a ball-controlling, inefficient 6-foot shooting guard with a poor attitude? That’s the last guy in the world Flynn would need around. Don’t get me wrong, he was amazing, but there’s a reason he never won it all.
Also, he really offers nothing else to our team and likely would be all downside (especially with PT and attitude).
Is there a slightly bigger contract we could trade to Memphis for use there?
And then just cut Iverson?
Kelenna
Would be my ideal pick up. I think the Wolves would be so much better with him or a similar player that can play the 2/3, and is young, cheap and good enough to start, but who wouldn’t block you from upgrading the position and moving him to 6th man. He is only getting better.
I don't know either,
but they have to struggle to find minutes for Morrow and Magette. RIght now not as much of a problem because with both centers out Jackson plays the 4 and Randolph subs on at the 5. But with everyone healthy they have way too many wings now that Curry and Morrow are playing 30+ at the 1-2.
Although
This suggestion is also pretty good!!!!
by Jose Cordoba on Nov 9, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Much more fun matchup than last night...
but man, our second unit is not fun to watch, at all. I wish Sessions could do a little more to create some offense out there.
sessions + flynn..
….for some extended time here
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About time
I understand why Rambis doesn’t want to play them together, but I think there’s situations where it’s appropriate.
about 2:40
we got 6 they got 4. Unfortunately I missed it cooking dinner.
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My Poster Curse:
A while ago, I got my first poster- one of Wally Szczerbiak for the Timberwolves. Soon he got traded.
Next, after that, I got a Kevin Garnett poster- soon, he got traded.
Later, I got a Marian Gaborik poster, guess what happened. He got traded.
(Not to mention Randy Moss and Daunte Culpepper a long time ago)
Does a poster of Blount getting dunked on count? I’m guessing that’s all you’d be able to find without making it yourself.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
I really don't know. I haven't had any poster with someone getting dunked on.
I’m currently hiding my Joe Mauer poster, for obvious reasons.
Wow..
…that was a downright fugly sequence.
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Boy could Kahn Not have F'ed Up the Richardson deal more..
only getting Blount in return?..Really..you couldn’t get Daquean Cook as well?
We need to attack the rim more
It’s a foolproof way to beat the Warriors, because they have no way to defend the paint. They either give up layups or rack up fouls.
Brewer is playing really well now..
…Jackson is going right at him and he’s completely holding his own.
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This is the first time..
…I can remember him not getting physically killed by a guy that size on defense.
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So when loves comes back..Who's Minutes get reduced?
Hollins or Jawai?
Don't forget Pecherov
Also, Hollins is athletic and I really like watching him but the dude has zero basketball sense. He plays like a track star. Granted, there’s a place for that but until he starts getting it I think his minutes take a hit.
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Realistically...
Hollins and Pech about 18 each, Jawai about 9, Gomes 30. Love is going to get 30. So probably most of Jawai’s, a half of Hollins and Pech and a few from Gomes.
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As CaliWolf says...
all the minutes get cut when Love comes back.
But I like Hollins for 15 energy minutes more than Jawai…
Well.
….if Jawai continues to get eaten up on the offensive boards like he was vs. Randolph, I think you’re right.
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Nice Al..
..that is how we need him to be in the post. Participate in the offense, then take your man quick. No more pounding it for 8 seconds to make a triple move through a double team. Play to his strength – one on one in the post.
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Finally..Brewer is showing us something
that makes us feel like we made the right call passing up on Spencer Hawes, Brandon Wright and Joahkim Noah in the 07 draft.
Probably should not post
since I’m not watching the game here. But checked the box score and although it’s only the first half, the Wolves once again are around .400 shooting and the opposing team around .550-.600.
They definitely...
…aren’t missing much.
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Actually, if it weren't for such a good group here
I would have very little interest. Always enjoy the analysis and humor. Canis Hoopus: Spreading Good Cheer like it’s Christmas Every Game Day
You all should.
Most enlightening, to follow up a trope on our Candide’s garden (com) posting this morning.
Our defense
What is up with our defense? Why is it that every opposing guard seems to have a stellar night against us (Roy being the lone notable exception)? Why does it sound like we just aren’t playing defense much of the time-are guys just not rotating or what? We do we suck so bad on this side of the ball?
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
Looking at the 07 Draft
How Dumb of a move was it to take Chris Richard #41 overall and pass up on Marc Gasol.
Sessions was the same year..
Would still rather of had Marc Gasol
Yes
and I’m still kicking myself for not buying Apple stock a year ago at 80/share. Soon we’ll all have eyes in the back of our heads. Most useful, I might add.
Indeed
There is actually a site devoted to trading athletes.
Well, to get somewhat historical here
Wall Street originally was where slaves were traded. So it all makes sense now.
It seemed like every year
I was rooting for taking a high-upside center with a 2nd round pick like Gasol or Deandre Jordan. What a horrible pick that was. "This team needs another overweight power post player whom at best is 6’8! "
It occurs to me we're really going to see just how valuable Love is when he comes back
assuming he’s healthy.
I love how whenever a team plays in Oakland
their TV broadcast shows shots of cable cars in SF. Some golden comedy opportunities being passed up 41 times a year.
The Warriors are just all over the place
Getting to every loose ball, grabbing every rebound, jumping all the passing lanes, beating us down the floor every possession…
We can’t even take care of the ball well enough to try and create any offense.
Yup.
But I’m starting to think this team is significantly worse even than last year’s. There’s nobody who can put the ball in the bucket consistently.
:)
Yeah, but I feel like we’re just regular bad at those things. The lack of scoring punch on this team is epic, really. A shell-of-his-former-self Jefferson and a streaky rookie Flynn are literally the only players who approach an average ability to score.
If we lose our pace is...
…indeed 10-72.
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Homer
Gotta believe Love helps us win some games...
We could really use one more solid NBA starter, right now. I think we’ll get the 25-30 wins most predicted. It’s always easier to win games after the All Star break when the bad teams stop caring about W’s.
I agree
Maybe the beat Memphis and Sac Town, with a win sprinkled about here and there. But no talent will not get you far.
I have a feeling we will lose by less than we are losing now
If that’s any comfort…
Ouch
Last 7:30, Wolves 15 Warriors 34. Ouch
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Will GS go for the gross?
144-??
Would LOVE to be a fly on the wall in the locker room now.
Well, back to work. Enjoy the game C Hoopers.
For some reason...
…I don’t think Rambis is the type of couch to be giving these guys the business. Something tells me he’s more nurturing and supportive.
Although
Didn’t Rambis call them soft during halftime of the Nets game? Guys didn’t like that very much.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
74 at the half
Are we the Detroit Lions of the NBA?
The same but in reverse
So it’s looking like Flynn is actually a 6 foot off-guard who is super quick and will get lots of FTAs.
and
Curry is in fact a 6’3" great handling point guard who dishes well, stays in control and can shoot when he needs to.
Um, I’m enjoying Flynn and all, but I think we know how this is going to turn out. The 6 foot off-guard with lightning speed won’t be able to be a starter on a top club, he’ll be the high scoring 6th man microwave type player.
And that 6’3" smooth PG is going to be a starter for a loooong time. All-star eventually.
Still a Kahn-lover, I’m not sending in my membership card yet, but I think he missed on this one or at least did not take the best player available.
Disagree
Evidence? We haven’t even seen Flynn play to his strengths (p’n’r), or within an established system with established players. You put Flynn on last year’s Twolves and you would say that we’d finally found a starter for a looooooong time.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
I hope you're right
I’m going off of the thin-slice I’ve seen so far.
He just doesn’t look like a pro PG to me, nor are his stats those of a pro PG. And I don’t see the beginnings of that either. Maybe he can learn them, but his strengths seem like SF or SG skills.
Jonny's gotta cut down the turnovers
Because we need his scoring out there, but if every other pass is a turnover, we can’t afford to keep him out there.
Sure would have been nice to have kept Azubuike
Another name on the list of good players McHale passed on.
Yeah
I think it’s fair to criticize GMs on their top 10 1st round picks, but on second round picks those are hit and miss, you just have to hit a few here and there…not that McHale did. :)
Heh
Still, I don’t think anyone expected Gasol to turn out like he is so far. He still is a liability on defense… worse than Big Al I have heard (if possible).
A lot of second rounders are easy picks though. My short list in the last couple years: Dajuan Blair, DeAndre Jordan, CDR, and Chalmers. To be fair though, these were all pretty high second round picks.
Judging by his brother...
…I expected him to be a lot uglier… Could have picked him up for the neck-beard potential alone.
Ugh.
These guys got smacked by the Martin-less Kings last night, and we’re down by 20+ early in the 3rd? Ouch…
In their defense
With a new coach, the offense is usually the primary focus. They are also knocking down a lot of shots. That being said, this is truly ugly.
I expect to start seeing some defense in January after Love is back and we are hitting a “groove” on offense.
Here's a thought
Stop throwing 25-foot passes against a set defense and if you’re gonna foul on an inside shot, foul them hard enough that they miss the f*cking layup. They’re hot from 3, but this game shouldn’t be such a blowout.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Nov 9, 2009 11:02 PM CST reply actions
Hey, look at it this way:
We may be witnesses to the most pathetic 3-game stretch in NBA history. Happy times!
In Flynn's defense
He should have about 4-5 more assists right now.
Did he take that with his right hand?
I hope not.
This is too easy for Golden State
We can’t play any defense anywhere on the floor. It’s all uncontested drives and missed rotations.
Warriors have missed just 23 shots
and have 11 offensive rebounds. Impossible to win giving that up.
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For those of you playing along at home..
…they have a 44% oreb rate right now.
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COME ON!
Talk out there guys! Gomes should never have been in that position.
Is Stewie hurt?
Has this come up? Where is Pech?
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We've only forced Golden State into 12 fouls
When the Kings beat the Warriors last night, they forced GS into 28 fouls for 38 free throws.
C’mon. Stop taking jumpers and ATTACK THE RIM
Flynn vs. Curry
Flynn 3.1 assists to 3.1 turnovers per game
Curry 5.8 to 2.2
I do enjoy watching Flynn play…but I don’t see how he will ever be a great PG, and at his height what else can he play?
I don’t get why we’re not talking about this more.
I know I’m not thinking about it because we aren’t asking him to dribble around and create like a PG, the triangle is be run at least 50% of the time and team assists haven’t been an issue. His turnovers are definitely problematic, but if we were running 50% PnR offense, sure I’d be worried about such bad assist numbers.
That's a fair point
I suppose the triangle allows a player of his height to play to the strengths he has.
Alright...
…we traded the pick to Denver. Denver selected Lawson through Kahn as there wasn’t enough time to close the trade before the pick was due. Do we know who Kahn would have selected?
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They wanted Johnson...
…and he was the only guy they were looking at with that pick because they had a few offers.
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Sessions deserved the And-1
Maybe we would leave less perimeter players open and be scrambling less to get back into position if we didnt try to double-team EVERYONE who entered the arc.
Ya....we're the worst team in the league this year
Which is, surprisingly, worse than I thought we’d be
We may be the worst team in the leauge through 8 games, but the Thunder started what, like 3-27 or something last year, but I am desperately looking forward to Love’s return.
I think Love helps, but he doesn't solve our two major problems
So how many wins does he really translate into?
Our offense is actually pretty solid
It’s imbalanced, but we can score. We’re on track to score over 100 points tonight even.
We just give up so many points on the other end, and tonight our lack of interior defense and rotation is glaring because of all the open threes the Warriors are getting and all the fouls we’re committing whenever they get into the paint.
Completely wrong
The offense is horrid. It was monumentally bad last year and has not been upgraded at any position except PG (although I expect Love to be improved). There are no efficient scorers on the floor. Flynn might be, but his high turnovers and failure to make his teammates better is a minus.
Yes, the defense is bad, but the Warriors, as bad as they might be at times, are a tough matchup if you don’t have the personnel to match their wings.
Those seem like two problems
Love can help with
Shooting and defense
We obviously lack scoring punch on the wings, and while Love will help with our rebounding problem, he’s not a shotblocker or much of a help defender, or a guy we can put on a Duncan/Yao/Howard and expect him to limit their scoring.
What a waste ot time
worrying about guarding the most unguardable centers in the league.
I like this running game
that Kahn promised. When it works, it really is fantastic to watch. Can the Wolves play this way now?
Not with our current frontcourt
Our wings play at 10x the speed as our bigs, and as a team, that leaves us caught out in no-man’s land.
That’s why Kahn and Rambis keep saying the roster is incomplete.
It's the wings who are doing the running
The bigs only need to worry about rebounding, or stealing, or staying out of the way. In tonights game, with 41 fast break pts for the Ws, it’s the myriad of guards (or count Kelenna as a SF) who are throwing down on the breaks.
Dude doesn't look happy.
That tech on Hollins really pissed him off.
On the short end of ...
…a 66-33 run. Do they really have 106 points with 13+ minutes to go?
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Well..With the first pick of the 2010 NBA Draft..The Minnesota Timberwolves Select....
Either JOHN WALL Point Guard Kentucky..Or COLE ALDRICH Center Kansas
Please don't let it end...
..147-99. Without Turiaf and Biedrins. I know we don’t have Love, but that would be like a 78 point turnaround from the Celtics game.
I hope the guys at least compete.
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And you thought
That the Blazers were so good for what they did to us ;-)
So on the bright side
Damien Wilkins is adequately replacing Love’s rebounding…. and then some.
So how long until Al gets fed up with the losing?
And if he decides he wants out, is it really a bad thing?
But that doesn't mean he'll be happy
I mean, we’ve been rebuilding for 2 years already, and since McHale dropped the ball, we’re basically back to rebuilding year one.
Using the Blazers as reference, this would be the year we’d be winning 54 games and going to the playoffs. Al’s patience has to be wearing thin.
Turnovers might be just as big of as issue
They are shooting very well even if they are open every time.
The rotation is so far off of anything that resembles correct that it’s ridiculous.
Warriors have 16 steals
16!
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The Warriors have 4 steals
The Timberwolves have given up 12 gifts.
yeah, I meant...
..‘steals’ :)
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You can tell our defense is bad by all the And-1s the Warriors are getting
It means we
A) Can’t keep the other team out of the paint, and
B) Aren’t moving feet and rotating
I'm betting never
Because this season isn’t about wins and losses, and because the team is committed to Jonny as the future of the point guard position, at least until Rubio arrives.
Sessions isn’t even certain to be here all year.
Sessions has absolutely no market value
Teams could have had him without giving up any of their players this past off-season and every team but Minnesota passed. Since then, he’s proved to be completely incapable of producing anything off the bench.
For him to have any value, he needs to produce. To produce, he has to start. I really think they should give him a go.
Made more sense than Andre Miller :)
We got ours for half price. And who else would have played? Bobby Brown and Chucky Atkins?
At least Bobby Brown would have hit his shots
And Miller’s going to look fantastic in Portland when Roy learns to play off the ball. That fast break offense the Blazers used on us was the first time in years they’ve done that, because Miller is the first point guard McMillan has trusted enough to call plays on his own.
Anyone else notice....
…that Sessions whips a lot of his passes off of his right hip? And they are often off-target.
He seemed to pass perfectly fine last year
I think he’s struggling to find any shooters that can hit a “J”. Last year Charlie V., Michal Redd, Luke Ridnour, and Charlie Bell could hit outside shots while Sessions did his work in the paint. Not happening with this roster.
Down by 39?
Is that possible or is Yahoo wrong? I mean, even the Lakers firing on all cylinders don’t beat poor teams that badly. My god, it must be horrific.
There are more than turds in the Wolves den.
Night folks.
Kurt Rambis's rotations look god-awful
He doesn’t have much to work with talent-wise, but it compounds things when talentless players don’t know when or if they’ll play.
I've actually adopted the TimberWolves as my second favorite team
Because I like this site and your fan base.
He's right though
Rambis consistently plays Sessions, Pavlovic, Cardinal and Hollins all at the same time. Who’s going to score out of that rotation?
We obviously lack talent, but when we know our bench can’t score, it makes no sense to play them all at the same time.
My starting 5...
Sessions
Ellington
Brewer
Gomes
Jefferson
That way you only have one player out of his natural position instead of 4.
Thanks for coming over...
…at this point it doesn’t matter who they start. Big Al is probably at about 60-70%, Love is hurt, Flynn’s head is spinning, and…well, it’s ugly. I think Rambis is just letting them play and coaching them in practice.
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To teach them a lesson
Cuz every last one of them wants to leave. And this way, they can’t.
We tied it tonight...
FSN feed said they lost by 41 once before in 1996. But we set the record for most points allowed in a game. Sweet.
this is the depths.
I wonder what Kahn is thinking right now.
Where is that picture when I need it...
…Wyn took it from the sidelines.
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McHale is the scapegoat
Because what we have right now is the fallout from the mess he created. We’re still trying to get back to zero.
I bet Kahn wishes he could fire him again, though
It would screw up the coaching search, but I’m not sure how much Rambis is learning right now, anyway.
It's really more the team than Rambis
Kurt has actually shown the potential to be an incredible coach. The team is just struggling to pick up the offense right now.
Obviously the payoff is huge down the road, but it’s one step back, two steps forward, and we’re still in the step back right now.
I have a lot of faith in Rambis
It just sucks to be him right now, dealing with this horribly unbalanced roster.
Indeed it does
I’m sure a big reason he signed was because Kahn promised him the roster would change. Which it will….it’s just hard to be patient waiting for good trade opportunities when we keep losing.
I just don't see many trade opportunities coming the T'Wolves way
Everyone in the league is watching this team stink it up. I’m not sure anyone wants any of these players.
expiring deals....
…we’re rooting for expiring deals.
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They'll take the expiring contracts though
We have nearly $20mil in expirings. We just have to see which teams fall short of expectations and decide to firesale their talent at the deadline.
I wonder if i can get a jersey..
…with “cap space” on the back of it.
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
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Maybe the Knicks?
They have the same roster affliction as the T’Wolves, but with SGs and SFs instead of PG and PF.
No thanks to Hughes
He shoots a terrible percentage, and makes way too much money.
Chandler would be nice, but he’s one of only two guys the Knicks are likely to keep.
We’re going to have to wait a couple more months at the least for the good deals to start coming up. Right now, everyone who can approach .500 on paper are still in hope-springs-eternal mode.
The logical trade target right now is Memphis. But the player we’d want most from them is a free agent this summer, and again, there’s probably better deals out there if we wait.
True. Which is sad
But acquiring Hughes would really just be a band aid fix at this point (and it’s questionable how much bleeding he’d actually stop…)
If we could get both Gallinari and Chandler in the deal, I might consider it, but right now I’d prefer to live with what we have and try to find a permanent solution in a few months or in the draft.

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