It's Like That, Game Thread #8; Run TMC Time
by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 9:15 PM CST
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Minnesota Timberwolves at Golden State Warriors, Nov 9, 2009 9:30 PM CST
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New Lineup tonight..going small
Al @ Center, Gomes @ PF,Brewer @ SF, Ellington @ SG and Flynn @ PG
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
about time for ellington
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Warriors lost to the Kings sans Kevin Martin
So if we don’t beat them tonight…
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
how is anthony randolph not startin gfor this team?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not only not starting, but getting hardly any minutes
by Ebomb on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes me wanna...
Start a laughably premature “get really-high upside player on trainwreck organization” movement. What’s the most absurdly lowball offer somebody will sincerely think is legitimate? And how can we make it happen? I’d take either of their lanky, potential-filled forwards that get far less playing time than they deserve.
On a more serious note, Mikki Moore is STARTING AT CENTER for the Warriors. More proof that Nellie has gone from mad genius to evil, destructive genius. Neither Nellie or Mikki should even be in the league anymore. Yuck.
by nja700 on Nov 9, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ellington is going to be my favorite player...
…by the end of the year. I can already tell it.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
:)
I think of all the wing players on the team, he has the best chance to settle into a 25-35 mpg 2 way player.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be fantastic for the Wolves if that happened
by Ebomb on Nov 9, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Other stream
http://www.atdhe.net/index.html
also works, kinda, at least for Mac
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Flynn is looking nice!
Moore is setting some nice screens. Now to start watching if they are illegal and not getting called.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why does FSN struggle with instant replay
Great pass by Flynn with a dunk by AL, and we can’t get a replay, but they show Brewer falling on the ground with a rebound. Come on!
by Rumblebee on Nov 9, 2009 9:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Give the ball to Flynn
…on every possession right now. Heat check the hell out of it for 2-3 possessions.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 9:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And I'm Singing..ALLLL BYYYY MYYYYSEEEEELLLLLFFFFF!!!!
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
T-
Are all your comments showing up twice on your screen, or just mine?
by TheH on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Another small backcourt...
…are we going to see Jonny and Ramon?
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Flynn's TOs...
..the total isn’t so bad. However, I am concerned that so many appear to be coming off the dribble – carries, getting picked, losing control. A little concerned – just a little -with his handle right now.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nellie's thinking
Is that he needs to spare Randolph who is both a foul magnet and typically overmatched at center. With Beiderens and Turiaf on the bench, Randolph is the only other player of size on the squad. So, Nellie won’t start him in order to keep him out of foul trouble. Or so he says.
by dropstep on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it was a Kawakami article
That posited that Nellie won’t play Biedrins and Randolph at the same time because neither of them shoot threes, which he almost requires every player on his teams to do. Most teams in the league would love having 3 left-handed near-7-footers with upside on their roster, and it seems like Nellie hates it.
Doesn’t make sense as to why he can’t just put Randolph at his more natural position of power forward. It’s not like Mikki Moore does anything better to the point that he should be playing at all, let alone over one of your possible future cornerstones. Seriously, just clean house except for the players (actually, get rid of S-Jax) like we did. That organization is worse than ours was, and I like the players on that team too much to watch the inexcusable crap the coach and FO are putting the fans through.
by nja700 on Nov 9, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice tidbit...
…Jerry West gave Cardinal his 6/$36M contract! Nice.
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 10:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
there's actually a sweet story behind that
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here you go:
An exceptionally well-connected league insider once told me the story of how Brian Cardinal got his mid-level. Seems Memphis owner Michael Heisley, frustrated by general manager Jerry West’s lack of activity, walked into West’s office one day and asked why he hadn’t signed anyone yet. So an exasperated West picked up his phone, called Cardinal’s agent and offered the mid-level on the spot. Then he turned to Heisley and said something along the lines of “There, you happy now?”
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Seemingly unbelievable, but West can be stubborn. And given the whole Pau, Z-Bo, AI sequence of events, Heisley is nuts. Incredible though.
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
...I got nuthin but time :)
Care to share? halftime?
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the link
http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsider/archives/2007/07/jump_the_gun_an.html
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta give props to Kahn for acquiring Jawai
No one had heard of him anywhere in the league, but look at his upside.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 10:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jawai just has to get into better shape..He's a little overweight.
Has the Potential to be what shaq was in his prime,
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Comment of the Year !!!!!!!
The Contest is over.
by Jose Cordoba on Nov 9, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Trade idea:
Brian Cardinal for Allen Iverson (straight up)
by KGMN on Nov 9, 2009 10:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why..Iverson can't even Make up his mind whether he wants to play or not
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We can start him, which is all he wants.
by KGMN on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you would start Iverson over Flynn?..Are you outta your mind?
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Over Ellington?
You have to remember we are Rebuilding..Iverson isn’t the kinda guy that Likes Rebuilding..he’s a me first type player..that would not work under Rambis..Iverson would have to realize that Big Al is the Main guy on the team..not him..I don’t see it happening
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To his credit
I don’t think he is looking to be the #1 option, he just wants to start. Granted maybe when he gets that he will want more…
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok.
I just thought he could give us some help at SG for one season, possibly teach some of our guards.
by KGMN on Nov 9, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He Might be able to..but if you look at AI's attitude..doesn't seem like the Teaching kinda guy.
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think his attitude is a big problem.
If he starts, he could stop. lol.
by KGMN on Nov 9, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Teach them what?
How to use your ridiculous physical gifts to be a ball-controlling, inefficient 6-foot shooting guard with a poor attitude? That’s the last guy in the world Flynn would need around. Don’t get me wrong, he was amazing, but there’s a reason he never won it all.
Also, he really offers nothing else to our team and likely would be all downside (especially with PT and attitude).
by nja700 on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a slightly bigger contract we could trade to Memphis for use there?
And then just cut Iverson?
by TheH on Nov 9, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kelenna
Would be my ideal pick up. I think the Wolves would be so much better with him or a similar player that can play the 2/3, and is young, cheap and good enough to start, but who wouldn’t block you from upgrading the position and moving him to 6th man. He is only getting better.
by dropstep on Nov 9, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure how much GS would want to give him up though.
by KGMN on Nov 9, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know either,
but they have to struggle to find minutes for Morrow and Magette. RIght now not as much of a problem because with both centers out Jackson plays the 4 and Randolph subs on at the 5. But with everyone healthy they have way too many wings now that Curry and Morrow are playing 30+ at the 1-2.
by dropstep on Nov 9, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Morrow would also be nice..
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
by Xand1 on Nov 10, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Although
This suggestion is also pretty good!!!!
by Jose Cordoba on Nov 9, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Much more fun matchup than last night...
but man, our second unit is not fun to watch, at all. I wish Sessions could do a little more to create some offense out there.
by Andy G on Nov 9, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sessions + flynn..
….for some extended time here
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
About time
I understand why Rambis doesn’t want to play them together, but I think there’s situations where it’s appropriate.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
about 2:40
we got 6 they got 4. Unfortunately I missed it cooking dinner.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My Poster Curse:
A while ago, I got my first poster- one of Wally Szczerbiak for the Timberwolves. Soon he got traded.
Next, after that, I got a Kevin Garnett poster- soon, he got traded.
Later, I got a Marian Gaborik poster, guess what happened. He got traded.
(Not to mention Randy Moss and Daunte Culpepper a long time ago)
by KGMN on Nov 9, 2009 10:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking of that, but I don't want to go through that trouble.
by KGMN on Nov 9, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does a poster of Blount getting dunked on count? I’m guessing that’s all you’d be able to find without making it yourself.
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by Xand1 on Nov 10, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't know. I haven't had any poster with someone getting dunked on.
I’m currently hiding my Joe Mauer poster, for obvious reasons.
by KGMN on Nov 10, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow..
…that was a downright fugly sequence.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If by sequence you mean
the second quarter.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bump. set. and spike.
;)
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boy could Kahn Not have F'ed Up the Richardson deal more..
only getting Blount in return?..Really..you couldn’t get Daquean Cook as well?
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We need to attack the rim more
It’s a foolproof way to beat the Warriors, because they have no way to defend the paint. They either give up layups or rack up fouls.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 10:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brewer is playing really well now..
…Jackson is going right at him and he’s completely holding his own.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is the first time..
…I can remember him not getting physically killed by a guy that size on defense.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson was too busy dishing ridiculous assists to worry about killing Brewer :)
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by Xand1 on Nov 10, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So when loves comes back..Who's Minutes get reduced?
Hollins or Jawai?
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jawai, I hope.
Hollins provides much-needed length and hops.
by Andy G on Nov 9, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Pecherov
Also, Hollins is athletic and I really like watching him but the dude has zero basketball sense. He plays like a track star. Granted, there’s a place for that but until he starts getting it I think his minutes take a hit.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Realistically...
Hollins and Pech about 18 each, Jawai about 9, Gomes 30. Love is going to get 30. So probably most of Jawai’s, a half of Hollins and Pech and a few from Gomes.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As CaliWolf says...
all the minutes get cut when Love comes back.
But I like Hollins for 15 energy minutes more than Jawai…
by Andy G on Nov 9, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well.
….if Jawai continues to get eaten up on the offensive boards like he was vs. Randolph, I think you’re right.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Al..
..that is how we need him to be in the post. Participate in the offense, then take your man quick. No more pounding it for 8 seconds to make a triple move through a double team. Play to his strength – one on one in the post.
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Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 10:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Finally..Brewer is showing us something
that makes us feel like we made the right call passing up on Spencer Hawes, Brandon Wright and Joahkim Noah in the 07 draft.
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brewer's been showing us that all year
People just haven’t been paying attention
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably should not post
since I’m not watching the game here. But checked the box score and although it’s only the first half, the Wolves once again are around .400 shooting and the opposing team around .550-.600.
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They definitely...
…aren’t missing much.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, if it weren't for such a good group here
I would have very little interest. Always enjoy the analysis and humor. Canis Hoopus: Spreading Good Cheer like it’s Christmas Every Game Day
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You all should.
Most enlightening, to follow up a trope on our Candide’s garden (com) posting this morning.
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our defense
What is up with our defense? Why is it that every opposing guard seems to have a stellar night against us (Roy being the lone notable exception)? Why does it sound like we just aren’t playing defense much of the time-are guys just not rotating or what? We do we suck so bad on this side of the ball?
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 9, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
.463
little better. But Corey, just stop shooting. 1/4?
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the 07 Draft
How Dumb of a move was it to take Chris Richard #41 overall and pass up on Marc Gasol.
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Or Sessions? Or was that a different year?
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sessions was the same year..
Would still rather of had Marc Gasol
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
and I’m still kicking myself for not buying Apple stock a year ago at 80/share. Soon we’ll all have eyes in the back of our heads. Most useful, I might add.
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
the stock market is probably just a version of fantasy sports.
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
There is actually a site devoted to trading athletes.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, to get somewhat historical here
Wall Street originally was where slaves were traded. So it all makes sense now.
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It seemed like every year
I was rooting for taking a high-upside center with a 2nd round pick like Gasol or Deandre Jordan. What a horrible pick that was. "This team needs another overweight power post player whom at best is 6’8! "
by nja700 on Nov 9, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It occurs to me we're really going to see just how valuable Love is when he comes back
assuming he’s healthy.
by museum on Nov 9, 2009 10:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love how whenever a team plays in Oakland
their TV broadcast shows shots of cable cars in SF. Some golden comedy opportunities being passed up 41 times a year.
by museum on Nov 9, 2009 10:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Turns out Golden State knows how to convert turnovers into fast break buckets.
by Andy G on Nov 9, 2009 10:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Warriors are just all over the place
Getting to every loose ball, grabbing every rebound, jumping all the passing lanes, beating us down the floor every possession…
We can’t even take care of the ball well enough to try and create any offense.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
There's just no talent on this team.
I’m no longer the slightest bit confident we’ll win 20 games.
by LoveTo on Nov 9, 2009 10:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We will be lucky to win 10 at this pace
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
But I’m starting to think this team is significantly worse even than last year’s. There’s nobody who can put the ball in the bucket consistently.
by LoveTo on Nov 9, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or rebound... Or defend... Or run the offense effectively....
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
:)
Yeah, but I feel like we’re just regular bad at those things. The lack of scoring punch on this team is epic, really. A shell-of-his-former-self Jefferson and a streaky rookie Flynn are literally the only players who approach an average ability to score.
by LoveTo on Nov 9, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we lose our pace is...
…indeed 10-72.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta believe Love helps us win some games...
We could really use one more solid NBA starter, right now. I think we’ll get the 25-30 wins most predicted. It’s always easier to win games after the All Star break when the bad teams stop caring about W’s.
by Andy G on Nov 9, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Maybe the beat Memphis and Sac Town, with a win sprinkled about here and there. But no talent will not get you far.
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling we will lose by less than we are losing now
If that’s any comfort…
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 10:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
Last 7:30, Wolves 15 Warriors 34. Ouch
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Will GS go for the gross?
144-??
Would LOVE to be a fly on the wall in the locker room now.
Well, back to work. Enjoy the game C Hoopers.
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
For some reason...
…I don’t think Rambis is the type of couch to be giving these guys the business. Something tells me he’s more nurturing and supportive.
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. That dude's got some mean elbows.
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Although
Didn’t Rambis call them soft during halftime of the Nets game? Guys didn’t like that very much.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 9, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
74 at the half
Are we the Detroit Lions of the NBA?
by bootowl on Nov 9, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The same but in reverse
So it’s looking like Flynn is actually a 6 foot off-guard who is super quick and will get lots of FTAs.
and
Curry is in fact a 6’3" great handling point guard who dishes well, stays in control and can shoot when he needs to.
Um, I’m enjoying Flynn and all, but I think we know how this is going to turn out. The 6 foot off-guard with lightning speed won’t be able to be a starter on a top club, he’ll be the high scoring 6th man microwave type player.
And that 6’3" smooth PG is going to be a starter for a loooong time. All-star eventually.
Still a Kahn-lover, I’m not sending in my membership card yet, but I think he missed on this one or at least did not take the best player available.
by Django Z on Nov 9, 2009 10:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Evidence? We haven’t even seen Flynn play to his strengths (p’n’r), or within an established system with established players. You put Flynn on last year’s Twolves and you would say that we’d finally found a starter for a looooooong time.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 9, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're right
I’m going off of the thin-slice I’ve seen so far.
He just doesn’t look like a pro PG to me, nor are his stats those of a pro PG. And I don’t see the beginnings of that either. Maybe he can learn them, but his strengths seem like SF or SG skills.
by Django Z on Nov 9, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, Ramon was a legit NBA PG last year and his stats are terrible. I think it’s going to take some time before we see those guys start producing.
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by Xand1 on Nov 10, 2009 8:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The positive if you're right...
Is that he’ll fit nicely in behind Rubio in 2 years. Right?
by LoveTo on Nov 9, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to think that learning how to limit one’s turnovers, a problem for many rookies and sophomores, in the case of Flynn is easier than Curry being able to learn to create his own shot.
by Ebomb on Nov 9, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jonny's gotta cut down the turnovers
Because we need his scoring out there, but if every other pass is a turnover, we can’t afford to keep him out there.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 10:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sure would have been nice to have kept Azubuike
Another name on the list of good players McHale passed on.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I think it’s fair to criticize GMs on their top 10 1st round picks, but on second round picks those are hit and miss, you just have to hit a few here and there…not that McHale did. :)
by Django Z on Nov 9, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Still, I don’t think anyone expected Gasol to turn out like he is so far. He still is a liability on defense… worse than Big Al I have heard (if possible).
A lot of second rounders are easy picks though. My short list in the last couple years: Dajuan Blair, DeAndre Jordan, CDR, and Chalmers. To be fair though, these were all pretty high second round picks.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Judging by his brother...
…I expected him to be a lot uglier… Could have picked him up for the neck-beard potential alone.
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Toney Douglas had 21 tonight for NY
Lots of good rookie point guards.
by Andy G on Nov 9, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ugh.
These guys got smacked by the Martin-less Kings last night, and we’re down by 20+ early in the 3rd? Ouch…
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 10:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Has Kahn made any mention of the Team learning a new version of the extremely complicated Triangle DEFense???
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 11:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In their defense
With a new coach, the offense is usually the primary focus. They are also knocking down a lot of shots. That being said, this is truly ugly.
I expect to start seeing some defense in January after Love is back and we are hitting a “groove” on offense.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a thought
Stop throwing 25-foot passes against a set defense and if you’re gonna foul on an inside shot, foul them hard enough that they miss the f*cking layup. They’re hot from 3, but this game shouldn’t be such a blowout.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Nov 9, 2009 11:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, look at it this way:
We may be witnesses to the most pathetic 3-game stretch in NBA history. Happy times!
by LoveTo on Nov 9, 2009 11:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In Flynn's defense
He should have about 4-5 more assists right now.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did he take that with his right hand?
I hope not.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is too easy for Golden State
We can’t play any defense anywhere on the floor. It’s all uncontested drives and missed rotations.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Warriors have missed just 23 shots
and have 11 offensive rebounds. Impossible to win giving that up.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
For those of you playing along at home..
…they have a 44% oreb rate right now.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
COME ON!
Talk out there guys! Gomes should never have been in that position.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We’ve completely and utterly given up. In every sense of the phrase.
by LoveTo on Nov 9, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Time to turn this one off...
hopefully there’s a better effort on Wednesday.
by Andy G on Nov 9, 2009 11:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yep
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Stewie hurt?
Has this come up? Where is Pech?
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 11:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We've only forced Golden State into 12 fouls
When the Kings beat the Warriors last night, they forced GS into 28 fouls for 38 free throws.
C’mon. Stop taking jumpers and ATTACK THE RIM
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Flynn vs. Curry
Flynn 3.1 assists to 3.1 turnovers per game
Curry 5.8 to 2.2
I do enjoy watching Flynn play…but I don’t see how he will ever be a great PG, and at his height what else can he play?
I don’t get why we’re not talking about this more.
by Django Z on Nov 9, 2009 11:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Because Jonny Flynn is the least of this team’s problems.
by LoveTo on Nov 9, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know I’m not thinking about it because we aren’t asking him to dribble around and create like a PG, the triangle is be run at least 50% of the time and team assists haven’t been an issue. His turnovers are definitely problematic, but if we were running 50% PnR offense, sure I’d be worried about such bad assist numbers.
by Ebomb on Nov 9, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a fair point
I suppose the triangle allows a player of his height to play to the strengths he has.
by Django Z on Nov 9, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright...
…we traded the pick to Denver. Denver selected Lawson through Kahn as there wasn’t enough time to close the trade before the pick was due. Do we know who Kahn would have selected?
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 11:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They wanted Johnson...
…and he was the only guy they were looking at with that pick because they had a few offers.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 9, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who wins more games this year?
Vikings or Wolves?
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 11:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sessions deserved the And-1
Maybe we would leave less perimeter players open and be scrambling less to get back into position if we didnt try to double-team EVERYONE who entered the arc.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ya....we're the worst team in the league this year
Which is, surprisingly, worse than I thought we’d be
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We may be the worst team in the leauge through 8 games, but the Thunder started what, like 3-27 or something last year, but I am desperately looking forward to Love’s return.
by Ebomb on Nov 9, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Love helps, but he doesn't solve our two major problems
So how many wins does he really translate into?
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our offense is actually pretty solid
It’s imbalanced, but we can score. We’re on track to score over 100 points tonight even.
We just give up so many points on the other end, and tonight our lack of interior defense and rotation is glaring because of all the open threes the Warriors are getting and all the fouls we’re committing whenever they get into the paint.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Completely wrong
The offense is horrid. It was monumentally bad last year and has not been upgraded at any position except PG (although I expect Love to be improved). There are no efficient scorers on the floor. Flynn might be, but his high turnovers and failure to make his teammates better is a minus.
Yes, the defense is bad, but the Warriors, as bad as they might be at times, are a tough matchup if you don’t have the personnel to match their wings.
by dropstep on Nov 9, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Those seem like two problems
Love can help with
by dropstep on Nov 9, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shooting and defense
We obviously lack scoring punch on the wings, and while Love will help with our rebounding problem, he’s not a shotblocker or much of a help defender, or a guy we can put on a Duncan/Yao/Howard and expect him to limit their scoring.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What a waste ot time
worrying about guarding the most unguardable centers in the league.
by dropstep on Nov 9, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this running game
that Kahn promised. When it works, it really is fantastic to watch. Can the Wolves play this way now?
by dropstep on Nov 9, 2009 11:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not with our current frontcourt
Our wings play at 10x the speed as our bigs, and as a team, that leaves us caught out in no-man’s land.
That’s why Kahn and Rambis keep saying the roster is incomplete.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the wings who are doing the running
The bigs only need to worry about rebounding, or stealing, or staying out of the way. In tonights game, with 41 fast break pts for the Ws, it’s the myriad of guards (or count Kelenna as a SF) who are throwing down on the breaks.
by dropstep on Nov 9, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rambis might have an Aneuryism in the locker room after this game
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 11:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dude doesn't look happy.
That tech on Hollins really pissed him off.
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the short end of ...
…a 66-33 run. Do they really have 106 points with 13+ minutes to go?
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 11:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well..With the first pick of the 2010 NBA Draft..The Minnesota Timberwolves Select....
Either JOHN WALL Point Guard Kentucky..Or COLE ALDRICH Center Kansas
by TonyO on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Please don't let it end...
..147-99. Without Turiaf and Biedrins. I know we don’t have Love, but that would be like a 78 point turnaround from the Celtics game.
I hope the guys at least compete.
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We are still on pace to score 100 points. Not sure offense is even the problem…?
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 11:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow this is pretty damn pathetic
even for this team.
by bheidge on Nov 9, 2009 11:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And you thought
That the Blazers were so good for what they did to us ;-)
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our turnovers are out of control.
We’re throwing the ball right to them
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So on the bright side
Damien Wilkins is adequately replacing Love’s rebounding…. and then some.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think he got most of his rebounds on that one possesion
that him and jawai went back and forth
by bheidge on Nov 9, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are they down over 30?
To the Warriors? Yikes.
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 11:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So how long until Al gets fed up with the losing?
And if he decides he wants out, is it really a bad thing?
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and do we swing a deal midseason to keep him happy?
If we decide to keep him?
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he understands the teams direction
it will be a few years.
by bheidge on Nov 9, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But that doesn't mean he'll be happy
I mean, we’ve been rebuilding for 2 years already, and since McHale dropped the ball, we’re basically back to rebuilding year one.
Using the Blazers as reference, this would be the year we’d be winning 54 games and going to the playoffs. Al’s patience has to be wearing thin.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jefferson forget how to rebound?
6.6 per game?
by bheidge on Nov 9, 2009 11:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
When you cant shoot
you better play D………horrible, terrible defense this game.
by bheidge on Nov 9, 2009 11:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Turnovers might be just as big of as issue
They are shooting very well even if they are open every time.
The rotation is so far off of anything that resembles correct that it’s ridiculous.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Warriors have 16 steals
16!
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Warriors have 4 steals
The Timberwolves have given up 12 gifts.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I meant...
..‘steals’ :)
All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer
by CaliWolf on Nov 9, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can tell our defense is bad by all the And-1s the Warriors are getting
It means we
A) Can’t keep the other team out of the paint, and
B) Aren’t moving feet and rotating
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With the season going this poorly...
when will Sessions get an opportunity to start?
by BlazerTag on Nov 9, 2009 11:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm betting never
Because this season isn’t about wins and losses, and because the team is committed to Jonny as the future of the point guard position, at least until Rubio arrives.
Sessions isn’t even certain to be here all year.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The signing really doesn't make much sense.
by bheidge on Nov 9, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It will when we trade him for something.
by LoveTo on Nov 9, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sessions has absolutely no market value
Teams could have had him without giving up any of their players this past off-season and every team but Minnesota passed. Since then, he’s proved to be completely incapable of producing anything off the bench.
For him to have any value, he needs to produce. To produce, he has to start. I really think they should give him a go.
by BlazerTag on Nov 9, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Made more sense than Andre Miller :)
We got ours for half price. And who else would have played? Bobby Brown and Chucky Atkins?
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At least Bobby Brown would have hit his shots
And Miller’s going to look fantastic in Portland when Roy learns to play off the ball. That fast break offense the Blazers used on us was the first time in years they’ve done that, because Miller is the first point guard McMillan has trusted enough to call plays on his own.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else notice....
…that Sessions whips a lot of his passes off of his right hip? And they are often off-target.
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 11:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He seemed to pass perfectly fine last year
I think he’s struggling to find any shooters that can hit a “J”. Last year Charlie V., Michal Redd, Luke Ridnour, and Charlie Bell could hit outside shots while Sessions did his work in the paint. Not happening with this roster.
by BlazerTag on Nov 9, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Down by 39?
Is that possible or is Yahoo wrong? I mean, even the Lakers firing on all cylinders don’t beat poor teams that badly. My god, it must be horrific.
There are more than turds in the Wolves den.
Night folks.
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No, it’s a legitimate massacre. Even all of the hometown fans have left.
by Boss10 on Nov 9, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kurt Rambis's rotations look god-awful
He doesn’t have much to work with talent-wise, but it compounds things when talentless players don’t know when or if they’ll play.
by BlazerTag on Nov 9, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've actually adopted the TimberWolves as my second favorite team
Because I like this site and your fan base.
by BlazerTag on Nov 9, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's right though
Rambis consistently plays Sessions, Pavlovic, Cardinal and Hollins all at the same time. Who’s going to score out of that rotation?
We obviously lack talent, but when we know our bench can’t score, it makes no sense to play them all at the same time.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My starting 5...
Sessions
Ellington
Brewer
Gomes
Jefferson
That way you only have one player out of his natural position instead of 4.
by BlazerTag on Nov 10, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for coming over...
…at this point it doesn’t matter who they start. Big Al is probably at about 60-70%, Love is hurt, Flynn’s head is spinning, and…well, it’s ugly. I think Rambis is just letting them play and coaching them in practice.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 10, 2009 12:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the plus-side
I really like what I’ve seen from Corey Brewer. He’s been a pleasant surprise.
by BlazerTag on Nov 10, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whats the point of a timeout now?
get this game over as soon as possible.
by bheidge on Nov 9, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
To teach them a lesson
Cuz every last one of them wants to leave. And this way, they can’t.
by Mplax on Nov 9, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
History buffs
What is the Wolves worst loss ever?
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 11:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
usually in trash time
the losing team at least narrows the margin. Down 43?
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We tied it tonight...
FSN feed said they lost by 41 once before in 1996. But we set the record for most points allowed in a game. Sweet.
by Boss10 on Nov 10, 2009 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was also most points scored by a team in regulation this year.
by Boss10 on Nov 10, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is the depths.
I wonder what Kahn is thinking right now.
by bootowl on Nov 9, 2009 11:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bet his son has on the Blazer's jersey!
by uncle rico on Nov 9, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where is that picture when I need it...
…Wyn took it from the sidelines.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
McHale would make a nice scapegoat right about now
by BlazerTag on Nov 9, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
McHale is the scapegoat
Because what we have right now is the fallout from the mess he created. We’re still trying to get back to zero.
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Kahn wishes he could fire him again, though
It would screw up the coaching search, but I’m not sure how much Rambis is learning right now, anyway.
by BlazerTag on Nov 10, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's really more the team than Rambis
Kurt has actually shown the potential to be an incredible coach. The team is just struggling to pick up the offense right now.
Obviously the payoff is huge down the road, but it’s one step back, two steps forward, and we’re still in the step back right now.
by Oceanary on Nov 10, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a lot of faith in Rambis
It just sucks to be him right now, dealing with this horribly unbalanced roster.
by BlazerTag on Nov 10, 2009 12:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed it does
I’m sure a big reason he signed was because Kahn promised him the roster would change. Which it will….it’s just hard to be patient waiting for good trade opportunities when we keep losing.
by Oceanary on Nov 10, 2009 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't see many trade opportunities coming the T'Wolves way
Everyone in the league is watching this team stink it up. I’m not sure anyone wants any of these players.
by BlazerTag on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
expiring deals....
…we’re rooting for expiring deals.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 10, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They'll take the expiring contracts though
We have nearly $20mil in expirings. We just have to see which teams fall short of expectations and decide to firesale their talent at the deadline.
by Oceanary on Nov 10, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if i can get a jersey..
…with “cap space” on the back of it.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 10, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Knicks?
They have the same roster affliction as the T’Wolves, but with SGs and SFs instead of PG and PF.
by BlazerTag on Nov 10, 2009 12:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Larry Hughes or Wilson Chandler would be nice additions
by BlazerTag on Nov 10, 2009 12:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ew. i could not be less excited about adding either of those guys to a team. i’m not sure they’d see many minutes on a wolves team in desperate need at the wings.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Nov 10, 2009 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No thanks to Hughes
He shoots a terrible percentage, and makes way too much money.
Chandler would be nice, but he’s one of only two guys the Knicks are likely to keep.
We’re going to have to wait a couple more months at the least for the good deals to start coming up. Right now, everyone who can approach .500 on paper are still in hope-springs-eternal mode.
The logical trade target right now is Memphis. But the player we’d want most from them is a free agent this summer, and again, there’s probably better deals out there if we wait.
by Oceanary on Nov 10, 2009 12:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The sad part of it is...
Hughes would be an upgrade over any SG on the T’Wolves roster right now.
by BlazerTag on Nov 10, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i’d take ellington or an out of position sessions over hughes.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Nov 10, 2009 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True. Which is sad
But acquiring Hughes would really just be a band aid fix at this point (and it’s questionable how much bleeding he’d actually stop…)
If we could get both Gallinari and Chandler in the deal, I might consider it, but right now I’d prefer to live with what we have and try to find a permanent solution in a few months or in the draft.
by Oceanary on Nov 10, 2009 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda sucks to be a fan right now too.
by Boss10 on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe the Warriors had Monta Ellis in the game...
up by 30+ in the fourth quarter.
by BlazerTag on Nov 9, 2009 11:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, if we had limited our turnovers, we'd be in this...
47 points off turnovers?
by Oceanary on Nov 9, 2009 11:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, that was epically bad
While I don’t miss McHale at all, and quite frankly blame him for the mess we’re in right now, this was worse than anything that happened last year.
So many turnovers. I think Golden State scored something like 47 points off our turnovers…that’s pretty much the difference in the score.
by Oceanary on Nov 10, 2009 12:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why
would anyone ever pay to watch this team play? No wonder they can’t even give away free tickets…
by College Wolf on Nov 10, 2009 12:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
i didn’t like watching my team win like that. the warriors are a tough matchup for the wolves (loaded at the wings, gambling defense that relies on mistakes from opponents), but once we got up like that, just let it end. the pavlovic flagrant was bad, but that never happens if the warriors stop firing up 3s and running with a massive lead.
it’s discouraging for you guys, but like i said, the warriors are a bad matchup and when they get hot, they get really hot. the real test is the next game. how does this young team respond? good luck next time out, and i hope they show up to the court angry and ready to fight, not despondent and ready to roll over.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Nov 10, 2009 12:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Random question, by why is Randolph coming off the bench?
After his unreal summer league showing and all the talent he has, he should be starting at PF….shouldn’t he?
by Oceanary on Nov 10, 2009 12:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he wants to get fired
and is doing all he can to make that happen
by TimAllen on Nov 10, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he was injured for the season opener, and did not look good at all when he came back. He tends to get in foul trouble really fast so I guess he has Mikki Moore in to eat up those fouls.
by Badly Browned on Nov 10, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he was hurt when the season started and hasn’t been playing well in limited minutes. those same bad habits from the start of last year seem to be back. he looks lost too often for a second year guy, and the short leash with him got him on the right track last year. hopefully it works again this year. i expect it to.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Nov 10, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Brandon Wright?
Obviously he’s hurt, but he’s barely played at all in his career…and is hurt. Why pick up his option?
by Oceanary on Nov 10, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
in limited minutes, he’s been good. a young big man with a polished offensive game is too rare to give up on. picking up his option was an easy call. the shoulder will get better and he’ll be back this year (though i’m not sure exactly when).
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Nov 10, 2009 12:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I hope this thing between Nelson and Jackson gets resolved. I’ll be honest, I don’t like either of them, but I like other players the Warriors have (particularly Steph Curry) and I don’t want to see any careers get ruined by management problems, like what’s happening in Memphis.
by Oceanary on Nov 10, 2009 12:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i’m an ardent nellie guy, personally. there aren’t that many of us left, but it’s hardly is fault this team is terrible. he’s got a long history of making subpar teams play over their heads. last year was injury plagued and this year we’ve got the jack situation. i just hope we get that figured out soon. i’ll take any expiring contract or a contract that ends in 2011 with a servicable player attached to it.
that’s not a crazy set of demands and right now, there’s no way you can tell me this team is focused. we’ve played 6 games, showed up to 3 of them and shouldn’t have even put on jerseys in the other 3. they’re young, but not even young teams are that wildly inconsistent. this is a distracted unit; shipping jack out of town would change that.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Nov 10, 2009 12:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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