Portland Trail Blazers center Greg Oden injured his left knee Saturday night and was carried off the Rose Garden floor on a stretcher.
Oden injured his knee while attempting to defend a layup attempt by Houston Rockets guard Aaron Brooks. Oden immediately fell to the ground after colliding with Brooks, grabbed his knee, and began writhing in pain.
Oden's injury came with 7 minutes, 45 seconds left in the first quarter, and he stayed on the floor for eight minutes. A stretcher was then wheeled out and Oden was carried off the court.
Oden was the No. 1 overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft. He missed his first year due to microfracture surgery on his right knee, and struggled with injuries during an inconsistent rookie season.
Update: Oden has left the main Rose Garden area and will undergo an MRI on his left knee, according to two sources.
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Should have picked Durant
I have always and will always believe that Kevin Durant should have been the #1 pick in that draft
by Oceanary on Dec 5, 2009 10:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Because that has anything to do with the injury? If Durant had the injuries you could say he was a bust. Neither had an injury history and he simply has bad luck.
by revprodeji on Dec 5, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oden had all sorts of red flags the indicated he’d suffer chronic leg injuries heading into the draft.
Although I also believe that Durant is just the flat out better player too.
by Oceanary on Dec 5, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Link?
I don’t remember there being any red flags regarding Oden’s legs back in ’07 either. I call B.S.
by John Doe on Dec 6, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t remember if there were any legit, documented red flags, but there was definitely a lot of speculation. It was part of the Oden/Durant public debate that went on for a couple months. There may well have been specific medical information spurring that on, but I don’t recall. Hardly feels right talking about how they should’ve taken Durant at the moment though.
by museum on Dec 6, 2009 12:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do feel bad for Oden
And I do hope he recovers from this and can resume his career.
I merely feel that it should be pointed out that there were several serious reasons to think this was inevitable with Oden that Portland overlooked.
And admittedly maybe a little bias because I feel Durant gets disrespected because of this.
by Oceanary on Dec 6, 2009 12:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Etc etc etc
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2007/09/13/i-still-wouldve-taken-greg-oden/
Even when I hear all those NBA executives murmuring about red flags throughout Oden’s medical charts in the pre-draft camp…
http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=681329
I seem to recall Oden had some red flags even before the draft.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-redflags091307&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Just this week on the telephone, there was an Eastern Conference executive studying Greg Oden’s pre-draft physical in his office. Even now, this report still didn’t look like the body of a 19-year old prospect, but that of an older, worn veteran.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/3891/grieving-with-greg-oden
From our (trainers and doctors), there were red flags everywhere,’ he said. The executive started listing the troubled spots – the bulging disc in the back, wrists, the ankles, the hands, a right leg that was an inch longer than the left, and yes, the knees. He wasn’t alone. Several pulled files this week with news of impending knee surgery, and kept wondering if maybe the breakdown of his body was just a matter of time.
by Oceanary on Dec 6, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NP
It’s quite honestly something that got swept under the rug early and wasn’t ever covered much. ESPN and the networks are hype machines obviously. Oden is the next Hakeem and all that.
I only heard it myself through a friend who was a big fan of the Sonics when they were in Seattle and were waiting to see who the Blazers would leave them with.
by Oceanary on Dec 6, 2009 1:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There were
I remember them too. KP decided that he would take the risk because true legit centers are harder to find and they already had Roy. This is not BS.
by TheEvilProfessor on Dec 7, 2009 7:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oden did have an injury history in his one year of college
He had surgery on his wrist in high school, which affected his start at OSU, and he had a thumb problem with the Buckeyes too. Maybe none of the injuries are connected, but Oden’s been fragile.
It’s so sad. I find it very hard not to like the kid, and he seems accursed somehow. We’re with you, Blazer fans. Watching Al Jefferson’s ACL last year was awful.
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by feral on Dec 6, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Update: Fractured left patella
Almost certainly done for the season.
Via Blazers Radio Sideline
by Oceanary on Dec 5, 2009 10:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Upsetting news
Always been a big Oden fan, was good to see him on the court and getting some burn. This could really set him back, given how low his confidence got in his “rookie” season
by easeus on Dec 5, 2009 10:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Would have liked to see him develop
I remember in the Love/6 for Oden trade debate. I really liked Oden- but his health terrified me to death. I’m sorry it came true.
by Jose Cordoba on Dec 5, 2009 10:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Terrible to hear about this happening to an apparently nice guy. Just when he was putting it together, too.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
by Xand1 on Dec 6, 2009 12:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did his leg even get hit?
I just watched a youtube clip, and it wasn’t clear that there was any contact between him and Brooks. Kneecaps don’t just spontaneously combust, do they?
by John Doe on Dec 6, 2009 12:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If they do, then so much the worse for Oden
Shaun Livingston broke his kneecap and tore both is ACL and PCL landing from a wide open routine layups…
by Oceanary on Dec 6, 2009 12:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Livingston was an extreme, extreme case
Patellar injuries are of varying severity. Livingston basically tore his entire knee, front and back, and the sesamoid bone had nothing to hold it in place. That’s the worst I’ve ever seen.
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by feral on Dec 6, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that seemed to be the really weird part...
…and here’s hoping for his speedy recovery. i remember how much it sucked when big al went down and i imagine this is pretty much the same thing.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 6, 2009 12:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, I think this is worse
Portland fans are saying local radio and news papers say Oden might be done permanently…
by Oceanary on Dec 6, 2009 12:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From Basketball Prospectus
I’ve got an e-mail in to Prospectus injury expert Will Carroll for more, but I found one other NBA player who suffered a fractured patella-then-Washington Wizards forward Jarvis Hayes, who was injured in late December 2005. Hayes did not apparently initially undergo surgery, but then had the procedure in mid-February 2006 when the patella failed to respond to non-surgical treatment. He missed the remainder of the season, but returned to play 163 out of a possible 164 games the following two seasons.
by museum on Dec 6, 2009 12:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps, but...
This is the second time he has injured his left knee (bone chip last year), and he already had microfracture on the right one the year before. You gotta think this will slow him down considerably, but I guess he’s still seven feet tall at the end of the day.
The only thing offensive on our team is the coaching.
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 6, 2009 2:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was reported that
he had gotten hit earlier in the year and was having issues but the Portland front office didn’t think it was that bad and didnt want to defer his development with surgery again.
Also, kneecaps do spontaneously combust. The muscles on both sides of your knee and above and below are all used when jumping and sometimes they all decide not to work together. My friend had a teammate who went up for a layup somewhere around 10th grade and all his muscles pulled different ways at once and his knee cap shattered completely. And I’m sure with his body and being in that career and with the injury history, his knees were under constant pressure and could have had a stress fracture from just about anything (like Foye had a couple years ago) and then that would have made this all the easier.
by Mplax on Dec 7, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oden did have the microfracture thing Foye went through
on the other knee.
The guy is accursed.
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by feral on Dec 8, 2009 9:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
@Brian T. Smith: #Blazers GM Pritchard said Oden’s injury was “non impact” and occurred when he was jumping, not when he hit #Rockets’ Brooks. #NBA 13 minutes ago.
by museum on Dec 6, 2009 12:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brutal
So it is like Livingston’s injury.
Well good news is Shaun is playing again, albeit sparingly. It’s not impossible to rehab from something like this, though I’m sure Oden will need a lot of encouragement, since he’s already had to do this once before.
It’s too bad…the guy was really coming together this year.
by Oceanary on Dec 6, 2009 12:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again,
Shaun Livingston tore the anterior and posterior ligaments. We’re not hearing that here. Livingston didn’t break the actual patella, which is happening here.
They’re both knee injuries, but I wouldn’t take one as the gauge of the other.
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by feral on Dec 6, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Livingston
dislocated his knee cap and tore his ligaments. Oden looks like he just had it break apart in a few different spots. They really aren’t the same and I doubt the rehad process is anywhere similar (dislocation would be constant light work on your knee muscles whereas Oden is going to need some serious rest).
by Mplax on Dec 7, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/12/5/1187654/recovery-time-from-a-fractured
a good, detailed post about the injury and what it does to a player’s career. doesn’t seem as bad as one might’ve thought.
by museum on Dec 6, 2009 1:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm worried there's more
Looking at the video, he was trying to move his leg and it wasn’t responding at all….no tension between his thigh and calf to swing his feet around. That usually means torn ligaments or nerve damage.
Oden unfortunately just has a body that’s prone to injury. I hope the Blazers keep him, Outlaw and Batum together as they rehab….Jefferson and Brewer both said the worst part of it was the isolation.
by Oceanary on Dec 6, 2009 1:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh, interesting about the leg movement. I have no idea. I’m sure we’ll hear more in the next day or two.
by museum on Dec 6, 2009 1:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad about the injury...
because Oden seems like a really good kid. Wow, what is it with Portland and a big man curse? Walton, Bowie; even Mychael Thompson broke his leg after his rookie season! Very strange!
by SoDakHmr on Dec 6, 2009 2:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
College Wolf, John Doe, Museum: you guys make me smile
by SF on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Trade With Portland?
I know Oden is apparently massively injury prone, but do we try trading for him? If he get can get a stay healthy, he is exactly the center we need next to KLove. Huge risk though, I know. This could either pan out nicely down the road, or be an epic fail.
What about something like Jefferson for Oden and Rudy Fernandez? I’d do that. Rudy and Rubio would make sweet music in two years assuming Rubio comes over. I think getting Rudy would really help with that. Jefferson is “injury prone” himself, but clearly more healthy than Oden at the moment. I also think Al fits in nicely next to the Vanilla Gorilla and Aldridge.
Would Portland do it? Would you guys?
by College Wolf on Dec 7, 2009 12:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
They need to make a deal...
…almost by decree of having only 9 active players right now and they can’t add anyone because their 15 man roster is full. My guess is that Outlaw and Miller are who they are shopping first. I don’t know if they’d give up anyone else. I think the most obvious trade bait on the Wolves’ side of things would be Sessions.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 7, 2009 6:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good points.
And I’d take Outlaw if we couldn’t get Rudy from them. Not sure they would want Sessions, but he might fit in better than Miller has so far.
by College Wolf on Dec 7, 2009 8:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
their big problem...
…Is that miller sucks and outlaw is hurt with a foot injury. I’d ask for batum before I would outlaw. Gomes would be a good fit for them too.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 7, 2009 8:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be interested...
to follow Greg Oden’s contract negotiations, next year. How can Portland commit a big salary to Greg with these injuries? And how can Greg settle for a small contract, when (provided he recovers from this latest bout) he can command something larger on the market? Seems like Pritchard is going to be faced with a tough decision on this one.
by Andy G on Dec 7, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how Portland can give him a huge extension...
Too risky given their situation. Oden could be had relatively cheap (all things considered) on the open market?
They should have drafted Durant, then again, he wouldn’t have gotten as much minutes as he has and who knows where he would be now.
by College Wolf on Dec 7, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or traded down
and taken Horford and Marvin Williams.
by Mplax on Dec 7, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed...
…This is where we’ll find out if he’s a really good gm.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Dec 7, 2009 10:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Whom has Pritchard traded, or traded for, within a season?
I read somewhere that Pritch hasn’t dealt during seasons. In that sense he’d be somewhat like Kahn seems to be: plenty of activity in the offseason, but you work through things once you start playing.
Counting on a panic sell-low trade from Portland wouldn’t be high-percentage, anyway, if that’s what we think we’re after.
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by feral on Dec 8, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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