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Midseason draft report, pt ii: the bigs

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OK, this is part ii in our three part mid-season draft board series.  This time around we're dealing with college bigs.  For part i (guards) of the series click here.  With no further delay, here's how we rank the college bigs:

  1. Blake Griffin (26.822)
  2. Tyler Hansbrough (23.625)
  3. DeJuan Blair (23.405)
  4. Hasheem Thabeet (21.633)
  5. Jordan Hill (19.638)
  6. Greg Monroe (17.88)
  7. Jerome Jordan (17.766)
  8. B.J. Mullens (11.655)

First of all, if the Wolves are in a position to select Blake Griffin, they do so and ask questions later.  You worry a bit about the knee brace/issues, but if you are already willing to give Craig Smith 25 mpg, then there should be no worries or second guesses about what you could do with Griffin should you decide to keep him on the squad.  He's the BPA and the Wolves should count their lucky stars if they land the #1 pick. 

Following Griffin, college stat hounds Tyler Hansbrough and DeJuan Blair are putting up solid, solid numbers.  In fact, the top 4 bigs on this list all posted higher Hoopus scores than our top 3 guards.  Hansbrough and Blair offer Wolves fans an interesting choice.  Both are essentially Rhino upgrades.  Blair in particular is a monster on the offensive glass with amazing strength.  Hansbrough probably won't be as effective in the NBA because he relies so much on free throw shooting to score, but it's hard to ignore his drive and college stat sheet.  In other words, he's a Rhino upgrade as well. 

As for Thabeet...well, I want to say that I'd be happy if the Wolves could land a player with that high of a score in the 7-10 range but something about Thabeet just doesn't sit right with me.  I don't know what it is, but I just don't think he'll pan out in the NBA.  Like my take on Jeff Teague, I wish I had more to back this up but something is just off about Thabeet's game.  That being said, he puts up solid numbers.

Jordan Hill is an interesting player as well.  Let's imagine that the top point guards and Thabeet are off the board when the Wolves pick at 9 or 10.  Let's imagine that Hill is still sitting there.  The guy is a clear, clear upgrade over Smith.  However, is he that big of an upgrade over a guy like Jordan, who could be had with the Heat pick?

If there is one player I'm fairly certain I do not want the Wolves to take with their top pick it is B.J. Mullens.  Do. Not. Want.  A guy that big and supposedly talented should not be putting up numbers that bad.  I don't care where or how much he plays.  I suppose he could be worth a Deandre Jordan-esque flier with a later pick, but he should not be touched with the top choice at the moment. Let's take a look at some of the key stats for these 8 players:

Griffin Hansbrough Blair Thabeet Hill Monroe Jordan Mullens
ORtg 115.4 115 130.4 121.3 108.8 110.2 115 104.1
%Poss 31.9 27.8 26.8 19.3 28.6 24.2 27.1 24.2
eFG 63.8 53.2 59.7 65.1 55.2 55.2 58.1 62.8
ARate 17.8 4.1 9.2 2.5 9.2 20.7 10.1 3.9
TORate 18.0 11.9 8.9 16.5 17.6 20.4 17.9 20.2
FTRate 74.9 70.4 37.9 73.3 41.6 66.1 54.3 46.0
2% .636 .529 .597 .651 .552 .554 .589 .628
OReb% 12.4 11.7 26.2 13.6 15.6 9.4 11.3 10.6

A few things to note:

  • DeJuan Blair is a beast on the offensive boards.  He doesn't turn the ball over. He is a super Rhino.
  • Thabeet can't pass.
  • Jordan and Hill are the sleepers of this group.  Hill may be a tough guy to pass up depending on where the Wolves draft. 
  • Griffin is absurd.

Finally, I have purposely left Bloomington Jefferson grad and current Kansas star Cole Aldrich off this list.  There has been no indication that he is going to leave school so I thought I'd keep this to guys who are on Draft Express' 2009 Mock Draft board.  In case you are wondering, Aldrich is putting up fantastic numbers, 21.319.  As the season goes along and we learn more about who is and isn't coming out of college, we can add and subtract names as we need to.  That being said, if Aldrich comes out, he will deserve serious consideration from a squad that needs another solid 30 mpg at the 4/5.

What say you about the college bigs?  Are we missing anyone?  What do we have right/wrong? Stay tuned for part iii of our mid-season draft board extravaganza, the swingmen.

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Thanks for the thoughtful posts Stop-n-Pop. I’ve been enjoying your stuff for a while since hopping over from Britt’s site.

I’m curious, why don’t you like Thabeet? I’ve admittedly only seen him play a couple of times, but the last time I saw him (against Louisville) I thought he looked like he’d be a great fit for us. Having a shot-blocking presence like that to throw into our 4/5 mix with Love and Jefferson would be great in my opinion. He really makes the opponent think twice before throwing anything up in the lane. Wolves opponents have had nothing to worry about in the lane all year (really since KG left).

by wannayeti on Feb 12, 2009 4:25 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by.....

….I’m not 100% sure what it is but I think it has something to do with the amount of time he spends in the middle of a college zone. He also has a poorly refined game and I worry that none of what makes him good in college would transfer to the pros. That being said, he puts up fantastic numbers and I’m not really sure why I don’t like him as much as I should.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 12, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally agree Stop N Pop...

Every time I watch Thabeet, it makes me pray we don’t get him. Given that he has practically NO value on offense, he needs to be dominant on D, and he just isn’t despite the impressive shot block and rebounding numbers.

When someone drives the lane, he often retreats under the basket instead of holding his position. And most of his rebounds are Amare Stoudemire rebounds…no block out, no hitting the glass strong…the ball falls into his hands.

He can get away with these things in college…don’t like his chances in the pros.

"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"

by mutleyil on Feb 13, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The only guy

on this list I’d consider with our top pick is Thabeet. I don’t get the hype with Monroe by the draft sites. Ooooohhhhh, he can pass the ball. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a multi-talented frosh that deserves to be pretty high up on some mocks, but top 2 or 3? I don’t think so.

I can definitely see the intrigue with Mullens. To me it’s all a matter of work ethic. If the background checks come out solid in this regard, he should definitely be Top 10 (although I’d still take Thabeet over him). In watching him play, I see a player that hustles, is active, and stays involved with his teammates. Yeah, he still has some fundamental things to work on, but the athleticism is definitely there and I’ve seen a pretty decent offensive repertoire out of him too; it’s not just dunks and put backs. Defensively he seems to give good effort, but just lacks some fundamentals around positioning. My point is just because he is raw as a freshman doesn’t mean that there isn’t tremendous upside. That’s why his work ethic and attitude are the key factors. If he gets an A on those factors, than he definitely should be able to tap into that upside of his.

by Rascal Flatts on Feb 12, 2009 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

I think the only reason Monroe gets the hype is because there’s no one else to hype. I’ve seen him only one game, with that in mind, I’d never pegged him for a top 3 pick.

Beater of the early Thabeet drum

by Wim (Belgium) on Feb 13, 2009 6:10 AM CST up reply actions  

People remember Chris Webber..

….when his game is “on”.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 13, 2009 7:13 AM CST up reply actions  

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