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As long time readers of this site well know, we love us some stats. We also love us some GM searching. Today, in the New York Times, these two hobbies converged in a single article about Shane Battier, Daryl Morey, and the rising importance of statistical analysis in basketball. Someone email this to Papa Glen immediately.
I would like to point out a few key passages in the article and how they should play in terms applicable to Our Beloved Zombies:
The games are games of odds. Like professional card counters, the modern thinkers want to play the odds as efficiently as they can; but of course to play the odds efficiently they must first know the odds. Hence the new statistics, and the quest to acquire new data, and the intense interest in measuring the impact of every little thing a player does on his team’s chances of winning. In its spirit of inquiry, this subculture inside professional basketball is no different from the subculture inside baseball or football or darts. The difference in basketball is that it happens to be the sport that is most like life.
One of the things we talk about frequently here on Hoopus is the importance of favorably ended possessions and playing to the strengths (and away from weaknesses) of individual players. At its heart, this way of looking at the game is based on focusing on the factors that increase the likelihood of individual parts being able to affect the team in a positive manner. Strewn out over a series of 100 possessions, what does Player X do, as a percentage of the whole, to help his team put the ball in the bucket? What does he do to hurt his team putting the orb in the hoop? With metrics like offensive rebounds, points, eFG, free throws, and turnovers, this sort of measurement is fairly easy to grasp (even a blog can do it), but what about the cliched intangibles?
Battier’s game is a weird combination of obvious weaknesses and nearly invisible strengths. When he is on the court, his teammates get better, often a lot better, and his opponents get worse — often a lot worse. He may not grab huge numbers of rebounds, but he has an uncanny ability to improve his teammates’ rebounding. He doesn’t shoot much, but when he does, he takes only the most efficient shots. He also has a knack for getting the ball to teammates who are in a position to do the same, and he commits few turnovers. On defense, although he routinely guards the N.B.A.’s most prolific scorers, he significantly reduces their shooting percentages. At the same time he somehow improves the defensive efficiency of his teammates — probably, Morey surmises, by helping them out in all sorts of subtle ways.
This is the part where we hope that the Wolves have their own set of internal statistics that are used to grade players, help coaches, and create contractual incentives. Do they measure things like contested rebounds, the percentage of opposing leading rebounders held below their per 100 possession average, the percentage of rebounds collected in a player's zone, the percentage of times a defender will force his opponent into a less-than-optimal shot, the percentage of times an offensive player will take a less-than-optimal shot, and so on and so forth.
It turns out there is no statistic that a basketball player accumulates that cannot be amassed selfishly. “We think about this deeply whenever we’re talking about contractual incentives,” he says. “We don’t want to incent a guy to do things that hurt the team” — and the amazing thing about basketball is how easy this is to do. “They all maximize what they think they’re being paid for,” he says. He laughs. “It’s a tough environment for a player now because you have a lot of teams starting to think differently. They’ve got to rethink how they’re getting paid.”
Do you think Sebastian Telfair has an incentive in his contract to shoot less than 20 three pointers during a season? Do you think he should? Do you think that a poor shooting point guard would find greater incentive to perform if he was measured in terms of adjusted +/- than he would in net points and shooting percentage? Read this next passage and try not to think of Kevin Love:
He pointed out how, instead of grabbing uncertainly for a rebound, for instance, Battier would tip the ball more certainly to a teammate. Guarding a lesser rebounder, Battier would, when the ball was in the air, leave his own man and block out the other team’s best rebounder. “Watch him,” a Houston front-office analyst told me before the game. “When the shot goes up, he’ll go sit on Gasol’s knee.” (Pau Gasol often plays center for the Lakers.) On defense, it was as if Battier had set out to maximize the misery Bryant experiences shooting a basketball, without having his presence recorded in any box score. He blocked the ball when Bryant was taking it from his waist to his chin, for instance, rather than when it was far higher and Bryant was in the act of shooting.
The bottom line here is that guys like Daryl Morey are thinking of ways in which to measure (and thus utilize) the ways in which individual players increase the odds of their team ending possessions in a favorable manner. It works the other way around as well. You can't stop guys like Kobe Bryant from putting the ball in the bucket but you can force him to be more inefficient in doing so.
Each and every time Bassy jacks up a three pointer, it is free money for the other team. Each and every time Al Jefferson takes a jump shot from the right wing it is free money for the other team. Yeah, Bassy and Big Al may make a few of these shots every now and then but they are playing a losing hand against long odds. Big Al has a .375 eFG on his jumpers. He shoots .606 from in close. Somehow, 51% of his shots come off of jumpers. Bassy is a .321 three point shooter. His only modestly effective shot is from mid range, yet 21% of his shots are from beyond the arc. Free money for the opposition.
Do you think the Wolves have internal metrics to measure how effectively Big Al passes out of jump shooting situations? Do you think they have internal metrics to measure how effectively Bassy avoids situations where he has the ball in his hands beyond the arc with less than 5 seconds remaining on the shot clock? I'm not holding my breath.
The Wolves currently sport a -4 point differential for every 100 possessions. They can't afford to give away free money. While the cat is sort of out of the bag with Big Al being done for the season, this club is in a position to narrow this margin with a solid off season and internal quality control.
For your take home assignment, here's something to ponder: Just how effective has Mike Miller been this season? While it is, on the surface, quite frustrating to see a shooter like Miller not shoot the ball, is he or is he not playing the odds in a positive manner to help his team win ball games? I encourage you to head on over to Dave Berri's Wages of Wins blog for his latest on the Wolves:
To see this, let’s start with how many minutes they can now give to Love. Prior to the injury, Love was averaging about 23 minutes a game. Even in these limited minutes, Love led all rookies (and all sophomores) in Wins Produced. With Jefferson gone, Love’s minutes and Wins Produced will increase. But there is a limit to how many more minutes Love can take. In the one game without Jefferson, Love was on the court for 38 minutes. If this continues, then 465 of Jefferson’s missing minutes will go to Love (15 minutes * 31 games). If compare Love’s performance to Jefferson’s, this shift is worth about 0.4 additional wins for Minnesota across the last 31 games. In other words, not much difference.
When we turn to the other 675 minutes, though, we do see a difference. Looking back at Table One we see the population of above average performers currently available to the T-Wolves includes the following players: Kevin Love and Mike Miller.
Everyone else is below average. The problem with Big Al's injury is all of the minutes Love can not fill...all 20+ per game.
Please take the time to read the NY Times article. It is an absolute must read.
Until later.
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You didn't post the best part from WoW:
“Kevin McHale – the much maligned architect of this roster – made a bold move last summer. In exchange for O.J. Mayo, McHale got both Love and Miller. Both players are much more productive than Mayo, so this move was quite good.”
p.s. I hope you already took care of the V-Day rituals before you spent all this time putting together the post.
by PoorDick on Feb 15, 2009 12:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks to the kiddies....
…being at a friend’s b-day party, a romantic dinner the night before, wifeypoo being at work, and my drywall project being finished, I had all of my bases covered.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 15, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree
That hopefully there is someone on staff that is an advanced stat guru. And more importantly, hopefully that person has influence with the key decision makers. In McHale’s case, he’s smitten with big men that have any semblance of skills, whether it’s Jefferson’s low-post footwork or Love’s all-around basketball IQ. I doubt any stat guru influenced him on the Mayo for Love/Miller move. It just so happened that in this case, his gut was right, or at least according to Dave Berri. Of course we’ve seen the darkside of McHale’s reliance on his gut – Foye for Roy.
Ultimately, I think a mixture of heavy stat research plus gut feeling of people steeped in the real world of basketball is what’s required. The one problem with these advanced stats is that it’s tough to account for every variable that may influence performance. Let’s take Mayo for example. Unlike Love, Mayo was asked to shoulder a disproportionate burden for his Memphis squad right off the bat. I wonder what his efficiency numbers would look like if he had the same luxury as Love, coming off the bench and playing 20-25 minutes per game primarily against the opposing team’s second unit? Now that Love is starting and IS being asked to shoulder a disproportionate load for a rookie, I guess we’ll be able to make a better comparison.
By the way, it’s interesting how Gomes has fallen off in Wins Produced (and Roland Rating) versus last season. A lot of us who follow Britt know that he believes Gomes has that Battier-like influence on a squad, doing a lot of the little smart things that’s supposed to make the whole greater than the sum of the parts. Yet this season it just isn’t happening. I wonder why.
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 15, 2009 7:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Gomes quesion..
…is an interesting one. Last year he was a productive player. This year, not so much. That’s a good subject for a future post.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 15, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well....
I just looked at the Wolves FO, and unless a guy like Hoiberg or Sichting has a passion for stats that nobody has ever heard about before, there are only two guys that are potential candidates for being statheads:
—Zarko Durisec, Director of Player Personel. Studied computer science at Wichita State, and (I think) heads up a lot of their overseas scouting. Studying computer science at least suggests the ability to understand how to create and sort and derive relevant meaning from statistical metrics. (Not that I’m saying that he does do this, just that he could).
—Dean Cooper, Assistant Coach. From his bio on the team’s website, “Dean Cooper enters his first season on the Wolves coaching staff after spending the previous nine years with the Houston Rockets, most recently as Vice President of Player Personnel.” I would have not cared prior to the NYTimes article, but who knows?
by biggity2bit on Feb 15, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh heh
Right—it could be “after spending the previous nine years with the Houston Rockets (who fired him because they didn’t think he had the ability to make metrics-based personnel decisions).”
Here’s hoping he can add some Moreyism to McHale’s gut.
by PoorDick on Feb 15, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd really be surprised if....
…McHale, a guy who seems to value appearance uber alles, had a big stats push in the front office. Some of the stuff is so obvious that it can be picked up by folks with blogs and limited stat resources:

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 15, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
McHale might get that graphic
if you convert it into an image of Mille Lacs, with the optimal shot zones indicated by the number of fish:

by PoorDick on Feb 15, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
very nice
:)
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 15, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Next Draft
What I’m really really curious about is who actually is running the Wolves’ front office. After reading their bios, it doesn’t sound like they have any credible figures there. A couple failed GMs and an as yet unknown quantity in Fred Hoiberg. Granted, it seems like in the NBA a GM is considered brilliant for the drafting of one player for 4-5 years (see: McHale and Garnett), but then if the team doesn’t win (or win enough) they become a goat (see: McHale and 05’ Garnett to now). If Kevin Love turns out to be a 15-10 guy who makes everyone around him better, and Foye becomes a reliable 16 ppg guy for 3-4 years, perhaps McHale’s GM tenure will look different 5-10 years from now.
I was looking at a bunch of previous drafts, going back through ‘98, and I was impressed by two things: 1) How much not having first rounders due to Joe Smith really hurt us. There were some good players available when we would have drafted, and while we can’t ever know who we might have picked, I think it’s unmistakeable how we are still feeling the effects of losing that much young talent competing with vets to make the team. Maybe Brewer will work out, maybe not (same goes for Shaddy), but those guys are still young enough and have enough raw ability to perhaps fetch something in a trade. The Joe Smith debacle robbed us of even that value for 4 year (Ebi was… nevermind. Not even worth it.)
2) The really good teams (Lakers, Utah, Spurs, Phoenix) all seemed to hit on their second rounders more often than not. This is where we have been killed for such a long time. With the exception of Rhino, I can’t think of another second round Wolves pick who’s played any meaningful time for us in the last ten years. (And it also makes me wince just that much more whenever I hear the name “Chalmers.”) The Spurs are the Spurs because even picking last in the first round they can get a guy like Tony Parker, and in the second round unearth guys like Ginobili.
So with the trading deadline coming up, and with this recent article from the NYTimes, I’m just really curious to see who’s actually in charge of the Wolves FO, and what their strategy/ability is? I’m hopeful it’s Hoiberg, but quite frankly I don’t know why we should trust in his ability to judge talent and make good deals. I loved watching him as a player, but just like the Lions—do we really want a protege of McHale’s as our GM? Our FO is stacked with guys who came here, went to become other team’s GMs, failed and came back. Perhaps the biggest FA signing we could make is hiring a real GM with at least a more than passing interest in stats. Having said that, I have no idea who would fit that bill. Any thoughts?
by biggity2bit on Feb 15, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Some of McHale's recent comments..
….have made me wonder even more who is in charge over there. The guy should be making zero personnel decisions and statements, period. This team is improving under his coaching but he FUBAR’d the personnel stuff so badly that there should literally be a big wall erected between him and any part of the personnel making process.
I don’t see them bringing anyone new in. Not with McHale as the coach and especially not while he’s still making personnel-related statements in the press. They desperately need a new pair of outside eyes to work with this roster and its assets.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 15, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great article
After blabbing in an earlier post on this thread, I actually took the time to read the article. Michael Lewis is such a great writer. I’ve only read two of his books – Liar’s Poker and Moneyball – but both are brilliant. I also recently read an article from him that lends perspective to the economic meltdown, which was also excellent.
Are there other players out there that have such a paradox in traditional stats and actual game impact? More importantly, are there guys in college like this? I have yet to find a site that tracks college player +/- stats. That would certainly be helpful in combination with advanced stats to find the true hidden gems out there.
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 15, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
…if there are too many other Shane Battiers. He’s the one Dukie I won’t crack on. I think Love has the potential to be a Battier + type of player. I thought Turiaf could have been this type of player if he had stayed with the Lakers. I don’t know if Nene qualifies but I think he’s a plus impact type of guy. From what I’ve seen so far, I think Nic Batum could evolve into a guy who starts because of intangibles. Actually, Jeff Foster is the best example I can think of.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 15, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a Wages of Wins
post via DraftExpress (scroll down, but along the way stop at some of the Wolves’ discussions) of the 2008 NBA Draft class, and a very early projection of the 2009 draft class.
by PoorDick on Feb 15, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As I fill out this thread on my own . . .
My nominee for one of the ninety-four 2nd round picks in this year’s draft: 7’8" nearly-400 pounds Kenny George.
by PoorDick on Feb 15, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly he wont play baskteball anymore
He got one of his feet partially amputated
Clear its radiance shine...
by ATarHeel on Feb 15, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's terrible...
..i heard there was an issue with his leg but I didn’t know it was that serious.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 15, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a link:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/kennygeorge2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://graneyandthepig.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/countrys-largest-basketball-player-has-part-of-foot-amputated/&h=355&w=600&sz=63&tbnid=vpPYYGm3xbuKM::&tbnh=80&tbnw=135&prev=/images3Fq3Dkenny%2Bgeorge&usg=zFNsd4pyrItYm-5k2M7LsurgtZA=&ei=LK2YSeT9LKCeNanAtYIM&sa=X&oi=imageresult&resnum=6&ct=image&cd=1
Staph infection following a big man camp in Vegas. Aside from this terrible thing, he was probably too big to ever be healthy. He had something like 3 knee surgeries already. This is my favorite highlight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WctBazFZAMc
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 15, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
But wtf. Draft him anyway. There have been bigger wasted 2nd round picks made in the past.
by PoorDick on Feb 15, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rick Rickert
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 15, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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