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Game Thread: Raptor style

Minnesota Timberwolves at Toronto Raptors, Feb 24, 2009 6:00 PM CST


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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

Minnesota Timberwolves – Toronto Raptors

LIVE

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by iddaliyim on Feb 24, 2009 6:22 PM CST reply actions  

ok...

check that, Bassy with the and-1 of the year.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 6:26 PM CST reply actions  

bosh is a bitch

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

if you're a super star...

.you pat cardinal on the butt and tell your teammates during the next whistle that you’ll pay the fine for whatever happens. He should have been tossed on that shove in the back.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

neva liked

de boy bosh mayn. he juss seems like sum1 dat aint gon EVA win a championchip mayn nah mean? now if he signs wit dantoni an lebron den dass a diff story…

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Feb 24, 2009 6:46 PM CST reply actions  

please take craig smith out of the game

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 6:51 PM CST reply actions  

Bobby Brown Comes in the Game

and looks no better than Rashad McCants just chuckin up shots.

by Tony_O on Feb 24, 2009 6:52 PM CST reply actions  

Although

McCants would sprinkle in a turnover and foul for good measure.

by Rascal Flatts on Feb 24, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Patrick O'Bryant..

…on the bench.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 6:54 PM CST reply actions  

why is craig smith still in this game?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions  

he can do one thing...

…that’s it.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions  

Starbury on the loose...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3931801

…the KG trade will be even harder to swallow if he wins with Steph.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 7:01 PM CST reply actions  

I can't stand that call...

If a shooter jumps IN to a defender, the foul should be on the shooter. I seriously hope the NBA has a major revision of it’s refs and rules sometime soon.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 7:03 PM CST reply actions  

it is garbage

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

definitely my least favorite play

my opinion is that the defender has a right to the airspace above his feet if he is standing straight up with his hands straight up or if he jumps straight up. Offensive players should only get to shoot free throws if the defense initiates the contact. Limiting shooting fouls is good for the game. No one wants to watch free throws for twenty minutes. Free throws ruin the flow of the game. Plus, every time a foul is required, the possibility for error increases because refs have to make judgment calls. Reducing the situations in which a foul is needed would therefore increase the validity of the final outcome.

by oblivionspocket on Feb 24, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Does Charlie...

simply not have eyebrows, or does he shave them? I’m convinced if he just had eyebrows he wouldn’t look like a crazed, brain-eating zombie.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Why is Chris Bosh considered...

one of the prizes of the 2010 FA market? Every time I see him play, he is underwhelming.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 7:07 PM CST reply actions  

He just reeks of...

Shareef Abdur-Rahim or something. Playing on bad teams make him look better than he is…

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

he did dominate for team usa last summer, that was a pretty good team

by pmac. on Feb 24, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply actions  

Didn't see any of those Team USA games...

When I have seen him lately, maybe he is just “VInce Cartering” it since he’s trying to get out of Toronto.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

it was with his defense too

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you think Coach Mac is wishing...

GM Mac had drafted anyone that could play some D? I think he’s starting to figure it out. No interior D and no perimeter D = OH CRAP!!!

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 7:31 PM CST reply actions  

this raptors announcer...

…has been dick vitale-ized. it’s terrible.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

If you have DirecTV...

Hanny & J-Pete on Channel 668.

If you don’t have DirecTV…my apologies.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

K-Love looks like he has hit "The Wall"

The extra minutes and all the games look like they have definitely taken their toll.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 7:44 PM CST reply actions  

He has no help

Love-Gomes is no way to staff an NBA C/PF frontline.

by Rascal Flatts on Feb 24, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

yep..

…he’s all on his own in the front court.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more...

I know Collins and Williams suck, but we have to get 15-20 mins at Center out of them. Playing Love there the whole time is killing him.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Love still gets position for rebounding at center, it just doesnt compensate for the height difference. His weakness on D is the same thing, his height. Otherwise he’s had a good game I thought with 15 pts 2 ast

by pmac. on Feb 24, 2009 7:50 PM CST reply actions  

Wow

just catching up on the thread and I’m amazed there’s no pimping for the Hoopus suite in April.

by TMiss on Feb 24, 2009 7:52 PM CST reply actions  

that's right...

….everyone get their tickets. it’s a suite. good times.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

$25 for a luxury suite...

….and we’ll probably hit a pub before hand.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

you mean

one of those places where they serve alcoholic beverages?

by TMiss on Feb 24, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

some of these continuation calls are ridiculous

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

NBA ref-ing strikes again...

I literally stopped watching the NBA for years because of the refs, but finally got the League Pass again this year. I don’t even blame the refs, I blame the NBA for making it too complicated, and too easy to favor STAR players.

Initiating play-altering contact with someone is a foul…anything else is not. We could get the actors, floppers, and poseurs out of the game if we made it that simple…too bad it’ll never be that simple.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I think they over reacted to the Pistons-Lakers series

They were so upset five players who weren’t superstars could play as a cohesive unit in order to defeat four beloved stars who sort of dogged their way through the finals. After that, the balance of the game was tweaked to favor stars playing on the perimeter giving us the terrible dallas-miami series.

It was as if Dwayne Wade’s father was a zillionaire who bought his son a championship for his birthday, but wanted his son to believe the experience was genuine. So, we were all forced to play along as Dwayne shot three throws for two hours.

I personally like to see a physical game without many stoppages.

by oblivionspocket on Feb 24, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Cardinal with the crossover

…not something I thought I’d see when I woke up this morning.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

bad foul from ollie..

…kind of cheap.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 8:04 PM CST reply actions  

OK guys...

…I’m out. Time to go watch the prez.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions  

If Mike Miller turns down 1 more open 3...

I will drive to Minneapolis and beat him my self…

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

Beat him up I should say...

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

No Love again @ the end of the game...

What is MAC doing?

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 8:19 PM CST reply actions  

And we give an O-rebound...

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I know he's trying to limit his minutes...

but it’s all the wrong minutes.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

...

Randy Wittman is shocked that this 4th quarter line-up for the Wolves blew the game. Ryan Gomes at Center vs Bosh…how could we go wrong?

by Blakeley on Feb 24, 2009 8:29 PM CST reply actions  

I know we've got a built in excuse to lose now...

With Big Al out… But there are some very disturbing things happening with our favorite team:

Our coach plays our best player way too many minutes when it doesn’t matter, and won’t play him at all when it does.
Our coach won’t even put anything close to a Center on the floor.
Mike Miller will absolutely NOT try to score more.

Maybe we’re already looking at lottery balls, but I wish we’d show a little more effort. The Wolves front office, of all people, should know how pointless lottery balls are.

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by mutleyil on Feb 24, 2009 8:29 PM CST reply actions  

At this point, and after games like this, it almost looks like our Organization is tanking for the lottery. I mean, how else can you explain some of this stuff? Playing Ollie so many minutes? Playing Gomes at center? Not playing Love? Playing lineups consisting of Smith, Ollie, Carney, Cardinal, Bobby Brown… I mean, seriously, wtf? This game was just complete crap and is hardly worth the time for any of us to get upset about. If our FO doesn’t care, then why should we?

With that said, Gomes has been playing GREAT lately. Shame on all of you for ripping him. At times, he’s clearly been our best all-around player and it’s not even close. He’s really stepped up his point production lately too.

How sad is it that Mike Miller almost gets triple doubles every few games, yet the thing holding him back is scoring TEN POINTS! My goodness, what a joke. What is he doing out there? How many times does he drive the lane and pass it. He’s shot less than a dozen mid range jumpers by my count this season. It’s either a lay-up or a three pointer. He could seriously be scoring 20 much needed points per game, but he flat-out REFUSES to shoot the ball. He had 10 shots in 38 minutes tonight, when he should have shot about 20 times. Good lord Miller, we didn’t bring you here to play PG! How easy is it for other teams to defend him? All the coach has to say is don’t let him shoot wide open threes, and otherwise just play off him so he doesn’t drive the lane. That would render him useless. I hope we trade him this summer or next trade deadline at the latest.

P.S. I guess its kinda on McHale to MAKE him shoot. I mean, he’s the coach! Why is he letting Miller play like this? Is it their gameplan for him? Does the staff tell him to do these things? If so, that’s beyond baffling.

Rough game for Love, but only 23 minutes? Man, he gets absolutely BRUTALIZED downlow, as does our entire team. We have no capable big men at all, and any team with even average big men should have little problems with us. We need a capable center ASAP. If for no reason but so that Love’s confidence is not completely destroyed going against bigger, stronger players that just own him.

Looks like Foye is back to playing no defense whatsoever. 1 assist and 2 rebounds makes an otherwise stellar offensive game only average at best. Oh wait, Miller was doing all those things for some odd reason.

Telfair was not great but not horrible. 4 steals helps his cause.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, our bench flat out sucks. None of those guys would be playing regular minutes on most of the other teams in the entire league. I did enjoy Cardinal tonight though. His antics against Bosh brought smiles to my face. I appreciate that yeoman work he was doing. I just wish we didn’t have to rely on someone like him to come in and play consistent minutes to win games. That is a recipe for failure going into the future.

Bobby Brown reminds me soooo much of McCants, it’s making me cringe. Same number, the headband, the arm sleeve, the stature, the playing style. Ugh. Definitely NOT what College Wolf wanted to see tonight.

Where was Sheldon Williams? WHAT DOES IT HURT to play him? I mean look at our other “bigs!”

Bargnani has been brilliant this year. Maybe he won’t be a bust after all. He owned us so bad it wasn’t even funny. Very versatile and I am liking what he brings to the table. Maybe it was just because no one on our team could guard him, who knows.

Bosh showed flashes of brilliance, as well as flashes of being a “second banana.” If you put him and LeBron together on any team in the league, that would equal multiple titles. Can you imagine Bosh, LeBron, and Nash on the Knicks in 2010? Sick.

Gomes did great against Marion. What an idiot he was to force himself out of Phoenix. Just ridiculous. He’ll never come anywhere near those types of numbers again… or the paychecks.

Calderon didn’t seem like he was really doing much, yet still dropped 15 points, 13 assists and 5 boards. Nice game.

It was a travesty what Anthony Parker did against us tonight. Good lord, how embarrassing.

by College Wolf on Feb 25, 2009 2:28 AM CST reply actions  

Just a small remark if I may.

On one side there’s the criticizm of playing people who can’t play so much that it looks like tanking.
On the other there’s the criticizm of not playing Shelden Williams, someone who according to the reports might be out of shape and thus might not be ready to play yet. Let alone the fact that putting him in there might disrupt the offence completely because he’s playing a position that usually gets a lot of plays called for and he probably doesn’t know any of them yet while Gomes does know ‘m, even though he’s too small to play there.

Don’t get me wrong, if we trade for Williams we should at least play him and I’d rather not have Gomes matching up with Bosh.
Fact is that in the recent past (or the recent draft if you will) they have done their best to making is stronger at the frontcourt: the Love trade and picking Pekovic. If you think about it, what else, in the reasonable realm of reality, could they have done in that short term of rebuilding.
I’m getting more and more convinced the plan was to just continue with the current front court and suck it up until Peko gets here. I don’t like those plans because peko doesn’t seem to fit any “synergies” as was said so accuratly before here. But my guess is that is the plan.

Beater of the early Thabeet drum

by Wim (Belgium) on Feb 25, 2009 6:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Good point

I guess I could see that as being a viable guess as to what they are doing…

by College Wolf on Feb 25, 2009 8:31 AM CST reply actions  

Ooops

I meant to have that comment be a response to Wim above.

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