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Let's start this thing off with a continuation of something I wrote after the Raptors game: this team is filled with replacement-level or lower players.  In the grand scheme of things, the Wolves have Al Jefferson and Kevin Love as solid, no-bones-about-it starting-level players.  Moving down the roster, Randy Foye has the potential to be an above average starter but his success is seems to be dependent on having a big guard next to him that can deal with anyone over 6'4".  I won't pretend that I can give you a non-partisan take on Sebastian Telfair.  He's my favorite player on the squad and he's the only legit point they have.  I still believe that he can be the starting point guard on a winning team.   Mike Miller and Ryan Gomes...we'll save that topic for later on in the post.

Anywho, the point here is that the Wolves don't exactly have a lot of starting-level talent.  They have some very, very nice players that would make for fantastic 6th, 7th, and 8th men on an upper-level team, but they are still in need of players that can upgrade their weak areas at the beginnings and ends of games. 

Last night's tilt against the Jazz started out much like the game against the Raptors.  The Wolves blazed out to an early lead with some fantastic ball movement and inspiring team play before promptly handing the game back to the Jazz once the bench (previously the end of the bench) came into the game. 

Over at Britt's place, he rightly labels this as "not enough horses".  That's spot on.  Regardless of one's thoughts about Rashad McCants, Our Beloved Zombies are down 3 major contributors and nearly 75 mpg this year when you factor in the losses of Big Al (35 mpg), Corey Brewer (20-25 mpg), and Shaddy (15-20 mpg). There's no way to dress this up other than to say it hurts.  Even if you throw Shaddy aside, the team is down over 50 mpg with Brewer and Big Al.  Those minutes are hard to replace.  Even when you can replace them with solid production (see Love,  Kevin) or close to even production (see Carney, Rodney) the problem then becomes the minutes that those guys are giving up to the end-of-the-benchers of the world.  This team still has a massive lack of talent.  They have some very nice pieces, but they need to be played correctly, and alongside starting-level upgrades. 

Getting around to the title of this post, today's game wrap is the last time this year that I will mention the talent gap.  We all know it is there.  We all know that this team is in need of either a big 2 to play along Bassy and let Foye come off the bench or a starting point with size (either way, they need a second point), an honest-to-Pete starting 3 that will allow Gomes to come off the bench, and a defensive-minded big that can rotate with Love and Big Al in problematic match ups.  With these needs in mind, and considering the team's significant but nonetheless limited resources, the big goals for the remainder of this season are as follows:

  1. Develop Kevin Love as much as humanly possible.
  2. Develop Sebastian Telfair as much as humanly possible.
  3. Figure out if you have a working solution at the 3 with a Gomes/Miller split.

In yesterday's game wrap, long-time Gomes aficionado College Wolf (from T-Wolves Blog) mentioned that I was perhaps being a bit unfair to Mr. Gomes by failing to mention that he has been playing like gangbusters of late.  For the past few months, Mike Miller (and Z-Ro) enthusiast MAYNHOLUP! has been singing the praises of the SoDak assassin.  Admittedly, Miller has grown on me.  While his refusal to shoot the damn rock has been a bit annoying (especially when he kicks it out to Bassy with less than 5 on the shot clock instead of this pass happening the other way around), he has really turned into the type of all-around veteran player that you'd like to have on your team. His PER is steadily increasing, his win shares are in the top 3 on the squad, he still can shoot the lights out, and he rebounds and passes well.  Granted, in this economy his expiring 09/10 deal is a huge chunk of gold, but he is one of the best 3 players on the squad this year along with Love and Big Al. 

Gomes, on the other hand, has regressed since last season.  His efficiency numbers are down and his turnover rate is up (among several other things).  Until Big Al's injury, he simply wasn't the player we saw last season.  I'm not exactly sure why this is; perhaps it is the fact that he's moved from power to small back to power forward again.  Perhaps it's the fact that he's tried to blend in too much.  I don't know.  Whatever it was, Gomes simply wasn't producing anywhere near the level he was last year until Al went down. 

Since that time, he has been, as CW mentioned, fantastic.  Granted, it's just a 5-6 game sample, but he has been playing lights out of late.  Whatever this is, and however he is doing it, we'll continue to monitor it and his progress (and whether or not he can maintain it) is one of the big things to watch for during the remainder of the season.  If he and Miller can continue to play like they are, this year's off-season becomes considerably less complicated.  If Miller/Gomes can make it work at the 3, they do what they can to draft James Harden or Evan Turner with the top pick, Nick Calathes (if he comes out) with the Heat pick, and then go get Samuel Dalembert to round out the 4/5....provided they don't land the #1 pick and then all bets are off.  Lineups please:

  1. Bassy/Calathes/Foye
  2. (Harden/Turner)/Foye/Brewer
  3. Miller/Gomes/Brewer
  4. Love/Dalembert/Gomes
  5. Jefferson/Dalembert/Love

Of course, the big elephant here is that Miller (and his awesomely expiring contract) will be prime assets next year before the trading deadline and this should give the team enough time to figure out if Brewer can really play at the 2/3 and if their draft pick has the juice to run at the 2.  Let's wrap this thing up with some bullet points:

  • If Love is going to improve his finishing around the rim, he needs to be the one to initiate contact.  Too often he tries to rush his layup and guide the ball to the bucket with his hands and wrists while on his way up rather than powering himself through the defender at the rim.  He is big and strong enough and with enough body control where he can jump into people and still find a way to get the ball where it needs to go.  No more cutesy-bunny shots for Kevin. 
  • It will be interesting to see just how many opportunities Love gets to operate in the post with his back to the basket.  I think we all expect his mid-range and finishing games to improve, but if he can operate with his back to the basket, he will become even tougher to guard down the line, especially when you consider how well he passes.
  • Ryan Gomes = aggressiveness in the past 5-6 games. It's very nice to see and I hope he continues it throughout the remainder of the season (and into next). 

Remember, Hoopus Night at Target Center is April 11th.  Details are here. Come sit in a suite, talk hoops, and enjoy one of the last games of the year. 

BTW: For a Jazz perspective on last night's game, check out our sister site SLC Dunk.

Until later.

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Just a couple of other observations:

1. Pretty remarkable how effective Craig Smith can be when use him the right way and in the right spots (i.e., short bursts when the other team doesn’t have a great shot blocker in). Pretty remarkable how invisible he is if you don’t get him in those spots.
2. Carney is a WORSE (by a wide margin) ball handler than Brewer. For all of his crazy drives to the rim and his too-fast play, Brewer has at least shown the ability at times to be a threat off the dribble (mostly with the pass). Whenever Carney puts the ball on the floor, BAD things happen.
3. Bassy is playing great for stretches (his 3rd quarter last night was a thing of beauty) but he should NOT be shooting 3s at crunchtime. That’s what the other team wants us to do. We have to figure out a way to not play into other teams’ hands.
4. I agree with your point about Love’s namby-pamby forays to the hoop (he should watch how the Jazz attack the rim), but it’s hard to argue with his FG% the last couple of games. I’d like to see a few more plays run for him, and a LOT more pick-and-roll with Foye. That almost always seems to get Foye a good shot, get him fouled, or put Love in a prime position for an offensive rebound.
5. As great as Gomes has played, he lacks that killer instinct. He misses an inordinate amount of shots in the late 4th that he makes at other times in the game. His blown layup/blown tip in last night was a killer. I like him, but if he’s your 2nd or 3rd option in crunchtime, you do not have a very good team.
6. Foye and Miller seem to always take a few plays off on both the offensive and defensive ends. Foye could clearly be worn down — he’s played so many more minutes than he has in previous years. It may be that every player does this (i’m sure of it), but it’s obvious when these guys do because it results in their man getting wide open on the defensive end or it results in terrible passes on the offensive end.
7. The wolves aren’t going to beat any good teams until they figure out how they can at least marginally slow the other team. I don’t have the time, but the FG% allowed since AL went down has got to be ridiculous. To your point, it isn’t that Al is a great player — the fact that we’ve gone smallball, picked up the pace, and now find ourselves giving big minutes to Collins and the rest of the end of the bench has resulted in teams having a field day FG%-wise.
8. Oh, and based on the sample size I have (2 games) i’ve seen more than enough of Bobby brown. Give me 12 minutes of Ollie and the other 36 to Bassy. I’d like to see some sheldon williams.

by Sterno on Feb 26, 2009 10:07 AM CST reply actions  

RE: Ryan Gomes
“Ryan Gomes has regressed since last season.”

Is this really true?

Even if you don’t take the last 5 or 6 games into account, it’s not as simple as that. Obviously his role on the team is altogether different since Al has been out, (and he’s thriving so far) but even before Al’s injury, Gomes’ role was very different.

We’ve seen him, with Brewer out, defend the other teams’ best player several times. He’s not as quick as Corey, but has stayed with and defended a lot of “stars” well this season. I can’t get enough of this clip, which is probably the best I’ve ever seen Kobe defended: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd3WIp6j—Q

In 57 games so far, he’s already taken 18 more 3PA’s (and actually made 18 more) than in all 82 games last year. His 3P% as a result has risen to almost .400 (.391 this season).

While his overall shooting % has fallen, his eFG is at a career high .500.

The only measure I see that he’s regressed in is PER. Any ideas why that might be?

by callmeishmael on Feb 26, 2009 10:25 AM CST reply actions  

It's more than PER...

….if you compare his on/off numbers at 82Games his performance within the team setting hasn’t changed much on the court but it hasn’t improved along with the team’s numbers and the off numbers have taken a turn for the worse. Whereas last year he had a +5.4 point differential on ORtg, this year’s on/off difference is -2.0. While he had on/off positives in FTA, FTM, and TOs last year, this year he’s in the negative.

Individually, his pts/poss, TS%, fta/fga, ast/fga, ast/to, ppr, rebr, and pts/poss are all down. He’s doing all of this with more court time, so it further depresses his efficiency. More court time + less efficiency = regression. That being said, if he continues to be aggressive and put up numbers like he has since the injury, I think he can turn things around. However, to this point, he hasn’t done as well this year and it’s even hurt the team at times.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

note to self:
s-n-p has a stat to back everything up; refrain from challenging something he writes in the future.

by callmeishmael on Feb 26, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

no, no....

…please don’t do that. Stats don’t tell everything and to tell you the truth, I wouldn’t have paid any mind to Gomes’ recent play were it not brought to my attention. We greatly value input. Keep it coming.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

all in good fun

Probably should have included a smiley or something….

You couldn’t keep me away; this stuff is good.

by callmeishmael on Feb 26, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

danke

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Dalembert

How do the Wolves “go get Samuel Dalembert”?

by highpockets on Feb 26, 2009 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

from the sounds of things...

…Philly was trying to give him away at the deadline. Expirings and a late pick? Expirings and Pekovic? They have plenty of resources to get it done.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

snp-

What has the one they call “Sammy goaltend” shown you that makes you think he’s more valuable than Pekovic?

His effort seems a bit too Jerome-James-esque for my liking.

by callmeishmael on Feb 26, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

if Pekovic can defend and provide some size...

….for unfavorable match ups, then I’m all for him. I have seen him play only a few times on EuroLeague Pass. I don’t know much about him and I’m hoping that the team has scouted him well.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Anderson Varejao ???

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If cap space could be cleared would seem an ideal fit at the 4-5 as a third alongside Jefferson and Love. It looks to be a possibility he’ll use his Player Option to opt out especially considering his past dealings in Cleveland. The problem looks to be this should be a guy that teams like OKC, Det, and Memphis target.

Wouldn’t his hustle and defensive presence be ideal for 25 minutes a night?

Another player that seems to have a lot of appeal would be Josh Childress as a starting 2 with size. Childress is a really good NBA player who would with in playing with Brewer would tremendoulsy improve the Wing Defense making the interior D look much better.

by Jose Cordoba on Feb 26, 2009 11:27 AM CST reply actions  

thanks for the input...

…both of those players would be solid additions to the team. I like Childress a lot. I don’t know if Varejao is the type of player they need at the 4/5. Admittedly, I don’t know enough about his game to comment.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Varejao

A) he would be much cheaper than Dalembert and provide the same (if not better) defense and rebounding – he’s scheduled to make $6.3 mil next year (if he exercises his player option) compared to $12 mil for Sammy. I wonder what Verajao would be looking for in terms of a salary number?

B) the Wolves could save the expiring contracts + Pekovic + picks for another deal to upgrade the backcourt

I think OKC would be the big competitor for his services. And I do hope the Cavs organization has really burned it’s bridges with the guy.

by highpockets on Feb 26, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

ah mayn

nice to see sum luv for MIKE MILLER mayn! i luv dat kid mayn PAUSE!

on Gomes: i cuddint agree mo wit u sNp mayn. i dont know wut it as, but he def wuzzint de steady hand he wuz lass year when al wuz playin. either way iss nice to see him step up recently juss so de game is fun to watch for de firss 3 quarters.

despite de agravating 4th quarters, ss really nice to see such inspired ball frum de big al-less wolves mayn! i neva realized how much i fuckin LOVE big al till he went down. i NEED to see dat turn around jump hook mayn iss sooo pretty!! ah mayn doe de logic is de yung guys gon develop an den Al gon cum back an we gon be thowed.

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Feb 26, 2009 11:35 AM CST reply actions  

love should be really fun to watch in

2-3 years

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Varejao

Here is Hollinger’s Scouting Report- I cut a few of the choice paragraphs.

It is what leads me to believe that he would be a perfect fit for what they need:

" Varejao had what was the most dominant defensive stretch I saw all year at the end of close a game in Memphis. Three straight times he was caught against a smaller player on a switch, and he stuffed all three. First he took a charge in 1-on-1 defense against Rudy Gay, then he made a hard switch on a screen-and-roll to force a Mike Conley turnover, and then finally he picked up Conley on a switch and blocked his 3-point attempt, clinching a Cleveland win. "

"He only appeared in 48 games and his offensive numbers were way down from a year earlier, but that stretch showed how Varejao can impact a game. He was fifth among power forwards in rebound rate and, thanks to his legendary flopping skills, fifth in the NBA in offensive fouls drawn per 40 minutes. The Cavs allowed 4.9 fewer points per 48 minutes with him on the court, and if he’d been in the lineup all season he would have been a strong All-Defense candidate. "

"Although he doesn’t have a post game, he handles the ball well for his size and excels at moving without the ball. He gets most of his points off dishes or offensive boards, and given how active he is, should be capable of scoring more than he did a year ago. "

"Defensively, his unusually quick feet for his size make him one of the best. Varejao is strong against the pick-and-roll, takes charges by the bushel, and hustles like crazy, plus he’s big enough to bang with post players and ranked seventh among power forwards in defensive rebound rate. "

" While he’ll never be an offensive force, he should have better scoring years than last season, and he’s likely to snag some All-Defense votes for his work on the other end of the floor. "

by Jose Cordoba on Feb 26, 2009 12:34 PM CST reply actions  

solid...

….thanks for the info. I wonder what Cleveland will do with him.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Front line depth chart
4. Love/Dalembert/Gomes
5. Jefferson/Dalembert/Love

Why would Dalembert play PF with Jefferson at C when they play together? Isn’t he taller/longer etc.

by Pants_ on Feb 26, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions  

you could swap the minutes...

….in any number of ways. They would all split time at the 4/5 depending on match ups.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Calathes & Turner...

As I’ve mentioned before, I wouldn’t draft Calethes unless it is in round 2. Just don’t think he has what it takes. And I have been watching Turner a lot lately and I’m somewhat down on him. The things that are showing to me on him are that his shot release is kind of slow, the ball often stagnates in his hands, which affects the flow of the offense, and he is just not a quick twitch kind of player as much as I originally thought. He has to gather to get off the floor, doesn’t really move that quickly laterally on defense. I know he has a lot of moxie and I may be wrong on him, but right now I’m a little down on him. I think I’d rather have Curry and Terrence Williams instead of Calathes and Turner. Williams at the 2 gives you legitimate size and awesome athletic ability. And playing with Curry, he wouldn’t be forced to score as much since Curry will no doubt be taking care of that statistical area. I just think that combo would be outstanding together.

by wolfen on Feb 26, 2009 2:38 PM CST reply actions  

Well..

You seem disappointed that they have been losing so much.

I just see more ping pong balls (or imaginary ping pong balls as the case may be).

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by FishingMN on Feb 26, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

On one side it’s an honor thing, on the other it’s the fact that installing the mind-set that losing is a good thing is very dangerous and especially disrespectful to fans. Then there’s also the case of karma. But I think everyone understands the logic of what you’re saying ;)

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by Wim (Belgium) on Feb 27, 2009 2:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Much Better

I can live with this in regards to Gomes :-)

And I agree with you about Sam Dambert. I’ve been talking about us getting him over on the TWB forums whenever rumors or whatever pop up. He would be a great addition at center, especially whenever Al or Love is in at PF. That’s exactly the defensive minded young center that we need. With that said, it makes too much sense for it to ever happen. Admittedly his salary is pretty high, but still, no one else is coming here anyways.

by College Wolf on Feb 26, 2009 5:27 PM CST reply actions  

Birdman

This dude is an unrestricted free agent next season….anyone see the type of boardwork and block numbers he’s put up in Denver off the bench? He could be a much cheaper option at the 4/5 off the bench and still be a massive upgrade over Smith.

by Rascal Flatts on Feb 26, 2009 9:01 PM CST reply actions  

Don't know....

…here are a few of his stat pages:

http://www.82games.com/0809/08DEN13.HTM

http://basketballprospectus.com/card.php?id=anderch01

He would definitely be interesting.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 26, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Like the people mentioned here .. Varejao, Dalembert. All nice solid 25mpg defensive rotation guys; exactly what we need to complete our championship front-court. I would be thrilled with any of those.

Still hoping Brew can take that starting 3 role. If we wanna have enough debth so we’d have no problems with both a starting big AND a starting SF are down we’d have to keep Miller and only use Carney as an end of bench guy, since Gomes can only be the insurance of either of those two… Not sure Carney would like to be in that situation but if he does, i’d glady give him 1-2 mil for it. Gives us great debt.

I have to admit, Harden has talent. If Rubio doesn’t declare I’m growing more and more convinced that you’re right on him after all, we should go after him. I watched him against UCLA and well, I still think he’s more of a tweener than a combo (a tweener being one that doesn’t have the “configuration” to play either the 1 nor the 2 and a combo being one that has the “configuration” to play both) but well, his skill might make up for it.

With McCants officially outta here the idea of having Foye as a 6th man off the bench with Telfair in there to kick start the offence, it does sound very good.

Telfair(28)/Harden(10)/Foye(10)
Harden(20)/Foye(20)/Brewer(8)
Brewer(28)/Gomes(20)
Love(28)/Jefferson(20)
Jefferson(23)/Love(10)/Dalembert of Varejao(15)

DNP-CD: Carney

When we get an injury it can be fixed by sliding gomes over to a bigger pos and letting Carney get in the middle OR by inserting Carney in directly if it’s a back-court injury. Seems like a team I’d love.

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by Wim (Belgium) on Feb 27, 2009 2:10 AM CST reply actions  

Let me redo that frontcourt, …

Love(38)/Jefferson(10)
Jefferson(28)/Dalembert or Varejao(20)

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by Wim (Belgium) on Feb 27, 2009 2:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Harden too..

….and the more and more I think about it, I think this team can get away with a backup point with the 2nd pick and a 2 with size with the 1st. The guy who may be a wild card is Tyreke Evans. He has legit size and can be on the ball. That being said, it kind of worries me that he needs the ball in his hands that much to be effective. He can certainly get his shot. He’s a legit 6’5" and with long arms. That’s exactly the type of guy they need in the backcourt with Bassy and Foye.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

More Roster Thoughts

1. Appreciate the thoughts on the Birdman- I do wonder about his age for a guy whose game is predicated on hops. Granted his legs should be fresh due to his layoff.

2. I think if Jefferson and Love is going to be your primary frontcourt- you a guy with Brewer’s skill set playing the 3 or primary defensive stopper to keep people out of the lane at will. This along with controlling the glass seem like the only hope for the Wolves going forward.

3. This question is in regards to Mike Miller- “Can he provide minutes going forward at the 1.” I realize this year- there are roster limitations that prevent this from happening. I do wonder about next year if you could play Foye and him together in the backcourt with Miller intiating the Offense and Foye bringing up the ball. This would seem to give more options going forward on D also.

4. As far as Calathes- I know David Thorpe is big on his game. The comments I keep hearing in regards to Calathes are in regards to decision-making being outstanding in regards to passing and shooting. While Steve Nash seems a stretch in comparsion. The ability to make good decisions goes along ways. He probably does lack the quickness to be a real effective defender at the next level. In a weak draft- a player with his skill set is probably worth a look in the late teens.

by Jose Cordoba on Feb 27, 2009 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

I think Calathes is going to be a steal..

….when he goes late teens/early 20s (if he comes out). He is a fantastic on the ball player.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

The weird thing is I remember him being a late 20’s pick even last year .. and now people are saying he’s a 2nd rounder is this draft? C’mon. He’s got steal written all over him.

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by Wim (Belgium) on Feb 27, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

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