Game Day: Please don't sue us
Ooooh look, he's on the phone!!! Who do you think he's Pritch slapping? Isn't it exciting?
Yes folks, it's time once again to play one of our least favorite teams in the league, the Portland Trail Blazers. From Randy Foye + $1,000,000 of Paul Allen's money to a coin flip for Greg Oden to an abnormal and creepy fan-based man love for team GM Kevin Pritchard to the unprofessional (if not illegal) leaking of confidential medical information of a player to the press to bad mouthing former players to opposing GMs to their own fans booing Darius Miles because his comeback from a medical disaster messed up their cap space...well, let's just say that the Lakers are the only other team I enjoy less, and I have to admit that Kobe is growing on me.
Despite of all of that, the Blazers sport one of the best team-based basketball blogs in all of blogdom and it should be a daily read if you follow the NBA. Even though I hate the product, I understand that they do a fantastic job and they are a wonderful example of what good blogging can do to enhance the coverage of a professional basketball team. They are one of the models for this site and we are greatly indebted to them for that.
Since we here in Wolves-land have seen the loss of nearly 75 game minutes from expected major contributors (Al Jefferson, Corey Brewer, and Rashad McCants) you know what the keys-to-the-game drill is: quick ball movement, a low number of 3s from Bassy, continued rebounding dominance from Kevin Love, Love continuing to improve his finishing around the rim, Mike Miller being more assertive with his shot, and Ryan Gomes continuing to be aggressive with the ball. We don't want to see kick outs to Bassy beyond the arc with less than 5 seconds left on the shot clock. We want to see a packed-in defense that does as much as possible to prohibit penetration and inside proficiency. Make them go over the top. Yes, I get that they shoot and make a lot of threes but penetration, free throws, and their size are much more dangerous than the long ball.
Another thing that we will be looking for is whether or not Kevin McHale will improve on some of his questionable rotations from the past few games. We don't need to remind anyone that their best player (Mr. Love) sat out the 4th quarter in 2 of the last 3 games? Why? We have no clue. Also, this is not a favorable match up for Craig Smith. He should see limited action and very little time alongside Mr. Love.
I would like to take exception to something that Dave wrote over at the excellent Blazer's Edge:
Neither can the ‘Wolves claim a sterling offense. They shoot a lot of shots early in the clock by design, trying to push the tempo. The problem is they miss most of them. They're not good three-point shooters and they don't draw enough fouls given their style of play and the number of shots they attempt. They don't pass the ball or set up good looks. They're the worst team in the league getting their shots blocked, due in part to the quality of attempt and their lack of adeptness at moving the defense but also to their lack of size at multiple positions.
I don't want to say this is completely inaccurate, but it's close. The Wolves do indeed push the tempo but it's not your typical run-and-gun style of fast-paced ball. Between Love and Bassy, the Wovles get the ball into the 1/2 court much quicker than most teams but they still run a lot of motion-based/weave offense with Big Al being out. This is by no means 7SOL or run-and-gun. If anything, we Wolves fans are conditioned to see over-passing and too much ball movement. I encourage Blazers fans to count the number of times Mike Miller, Ryan Gomes or Kevin Love will pass up an open shot in favor of a pass during tonight's game.
The Wolves also have been drawing a surprising number of fouls since Big Al went down. Since the All Star break they have averaged 27.8 FTA/game. In their last 5 contests, they have went for 28, 19, 19, 41, and 29. The majority of these FTAs are set up in one of two ways: offensive rebounding and dribble penetration. While most fans around the league still view Bassy as being the player he was with the Blazers and Celtics, and while he does shoot from outside a little too much, he can and will get in the lane tonight, no matter how far the defense plays off of him.
Despite being down 3 major contributors (granted, one of these was a self-inflicted wound), and despite the team rapidly approaching the dog days of the NBA season, the Wolves are still playing exciting, hard-fought ball in close games. They are developing young players like Love, Foye, and Bassy and they are refining the games of future glue guys like Miller and Gomes. With the possibility of four first round draft picks, a stashed Euro center with promise, future cap space, and three valuable expiring 09/10 contracts, not all is bad in Wolves-dom. Plus, they haven't threatened to sue anybody. That has to count for something.
Go wolves.
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Nice preview
to abnormal and creepy fan-based man love for team GM Kevin Pritchard
I take exception with this, though. There is a segment of the fan base that worships the ground he walks on, but most people over at Blazersedge don’t. Has he done a good job? Yes. Is he perfect? No.
by Cablinasian on Feb 27, 2009 10:05 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
that's a fair statement..
….I agree with it. I should have made clear that it is a particular segment of their fan base. I think it’s a fairly large portion of the group that is on line, but you are right to say that it is a specific group.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also...
…it shouldn’t be listed as man love. There are female Blazers fans as well. I made that change up top.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some Constructive Criticism
You wrote online as two words above.
Oh, and Dave was right about your style of play; over-passing still leads to contested shots.
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by Fund A Mental on Feb 27, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
After all the GMs that get so much crap
and a laundry list of ours that we couldn’t stand, it’s nice to have one that we like. I can’t believe you’re giving us crap for that.
It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.
by einman77 on Feb 27, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no one is giving...
…“you” anything, unless you’ve internalized it all to that extent.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's Man Love
Trust me… However I don’t appreciate the generalization of our fan base. Moreover, how can you say that you HATE the product Portland puts on the floor? It’s full of good guys, playing basketball the right way, even if it was assembled by Man-Genius, I mean, the ‘unlikeable’ Kevin Pritchard. I’m honestly a little surprised to see Wolves fans this discontented with our team because of that email that Larry Miller (NOT Kevin Pritchard) sent out.
by PDynastyX on Feb 27, 2009 11:49 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Think of it this way:
You guys think you have an iPhone. Other people think your favorite team is a Zune.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again, team or GM?
I see the problems with our team, we need a PG. Steve Blake is a backup PG on a championship Caliber team, and we all recognize that. I guess I just don’t understand you putting down the product on the floor when we’re young, good, and fun to watch.
I’m just curious what the reasoning is behind the above statement. Sure, we all think our team is better than it is… but what sports fan doesn’t think that way. WHY is our team not as good as we think it is?
by PDynastyX on Feb 27, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you guys call them the L*akers?
It’s a combo platter for Wolves fans. From having to watch people credit the “genius” of a GM who was handed their best player by Kevin McHale to losing the coin flip for the #1 pick to watching the genius GM pick the wrong guy to all of those picks that were bought to the team not having accomplished anything in the post season yet to the entire Miles nonsense to a team with a core group of players that have the injury bug to an inability to get a good point to a bunch of other things…I get that fans think their home team is the bee’s knees, but, to me (and I’m sure a lot of other Wolves fans), the gap between what we hear from Blazers fans and what we see on the court is greater than it is with other up and coming teams in the league.
I don’t think the core they have will work as well as the core OKC has. I don’t think Roy will make it through an entire season + the playoffs without breaking down. I don’t think Oden will ever live up to the hype. I don’t think that 3s in that system will ever be developed to their full potential.
Now, of course, all of this could change should they pull off a big trade (I think Chris Paul should be their target) but I think they either stand pat and become the new version of the Sacramento Kings to the Lakers’ Lakers or they cash in with someone who won’t quite put them over the top (Vince Carter or Caron Butler).
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
I appreciate the honest analysis, but I have to point out how you still started with your Pritchard-Rage before talking about the dynamic of the team itself. It’s obvious to me that you can’t separate the two.
I think that you make a good point about the 3 in our current system not developing completely. However, I don’t think you can say definitively that one of the 3 youngest teams in the league just isn’t going to get there. You seem pretty determined that A) this team can’t win it all in 3 years… and B) the core group can’t stay healthy. I don’t know if you’ve noticed Roy + Aldridge’s games played the past two years, but they’re up there with any team’s top 2 players in the NBA… meaning, they’re healthier than you think.
What do you think of Batum? I’m very curious. If he can develop into a legitimate defensive stopper that can make 3s, and move the ball well on offense, I think he’s exactly the type of 3 we need to make a championship run; with Martell Webster coming off the bench running and making 3s.
P.S. I like the team you’re starting to assemble a lot. I think a real PG (yes, we all know Telfair isn’t going to cut it long term) to pair with Foye, Miller, Love and Jefferson is a scary starting 5. I wish you the best the rest of the way.
-an image conscious blazers fan.
by PDynastyX on Feb 27, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well..
….I wouldn’t exactly call it “rage”. I also think it’s more complicated than being unable to separate anything. I think you have the wrong GM in mind with that statement. If not for McHale, Wolves fans are sitting here with KG, Granger, and Roy and you guys….well, we don’t dwell on the past much here at Hoopus but I do want you to know that it’s not your GM that is the source of that particular portion of what I dislike about your favorite squad. Don’t get me wrong, I think Prichard is a prick and Portland’s handling of the Miles mess was way below the bar but the composition of that squad owes as much to McHale as it does Pritchard.
Batum is one of the players from your squad I’d love to see on the Wolves. I think he has tremendous length and athleticism and out of all the somewhat “gettable” players on that roster, he and Pryz are the two I’d most like to see the Wolves walk away with.
I’m also not determined to see anything happen with the Blazers. It’s just an opinion. I see some nice players but not nearly as much upper-level talent as Durant + Westbrook and, god-forbid, Griffin.
PS: Thanks for the take on the Wolves. Love + Jefferson could be a tough, tough duo in 2-3 years. They definitely need backcourt help. I think they’d be better off in the long run letting Foye come off the bench and getting a big 2 guard but we’ll just have to wait and see on that front. I think they can win with Bassy at the point. He’s really developing into a nice player and no other player on the squad has as big of an impact in terms of what happens with him on and off the court. Part of that has to do with the fact the team has no other point, but Bassy is really turning into a solid player. I think he could be a really tough guy to guard if they had a big 2 next to him.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
plus for gophers fans...
some of us are still steamed at pryz for walking out mid-season.
(though we’d like to have him back to reinforce al/love!)
by secretarykissinger on Feb 27, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
indeed...
….my Gopherdom does play into that ;)
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No wonder he left
You cant even spell his name right. Przybilla :)
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 27, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pryz is accurate. Przybilla is the full name.
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 27, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To understand the appreciation of Pritchard & Co., you have to look at who the current organization replaced
A trigger-happy GM and president who made amazingly dumb comments about team chemistry, acquired and overpaid for bad to mediocre players with dubious character including a convicted sex offender, and who literally passed on the player you mentioned: Chris Paul, by trading down for Martell Webster and Jarrett Jack. One can make the argument that Portland wouldn’t have had the same draft picks that benefitted us later, but still: Major D’oh!
Sure Pritchard is not perfect, definitely not in my book. He e.g. passed up Marc Gasol to instead take Josh McRoberts and the forgettable Derrick Byars in the 2007 second round, and tends to fall in love with skilled yet skinny players who don’t battle on defense and under the boards (and you would think KD fits that description…). The team could really use a PF backup banger and a veteran wing player with decent perimeter defense to play alongside Roy, which is what many fans hope(d) for either now at the deadline or latest during the next summer. Finding a solution to the never-ending “Oregon’s next top point guard” show of course also wouldn’t hurt. But most moves have paid off so far.
You also have to see how incredibly young this team is: Taking out injured ten year veteran Raef LaFrentz, it’s the youngest team/rotation in the league together with the Grizzlies and Warriors. Aldridge and Roy are in their third season. Three regular starters are NBA rookies (while Fernandez has plenty international experience, he is not used to playing 82 games against major athletes). All things considered, Pritchard’s “reorganization” of the whole franchise to put likable yet successful guys on the floor is clearly ahead of the curve.
Imagine you would replace McHale and whoever is your new GM with say Jeff Van Gundy and Daryl Morey. They are also not perfect, but Wolves fans would feel like they are darn close.
I’m sure guys like Dave or Mortimer could explain that even better to you.
Proud Odensheeple
by Norsktroll on Feb 27, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I get that...
….and I understand it. I just don’t care about it. I respect you and your comments here a lot, I love Dave’s site, but I just don’t like the Blazers. You guys can explain all of this to me until you’re blue in the face but I just don’t like watching Brandon Roy. I don’t like watching Greg Oden. I don’t like hearing “pritch slapped”. It’s stuff like that. Some of it has reasoning; some of it doesn’t.
McHale is…well, complicated. I don’t think he’s stupid (by all accounts he’s very bright) and there has always been a parallel string of bad luck to his bad decisions so I’m more tempered in my view of him than I was at one point. He’s more of a tragic figure at this point. At each post-Starbury step of the way he patched together what he could with increasingly diminishing returns. His basic idea about KG (surround him with 2 upper-level players and role guys) is the model that won in Boston. I don’t fault him for that. He had the right idea; he just really flubbed the execution over the past few years and fell behind the curve on some of the stuff that I will give Pritchard credit for: creativity and in-depth analysis. The guy knows basketball forwards and backwards and I think he relied a bit too much on his faith in his knowledge rather than some counter-intuitive things that may have helped the team out along the way. For instance, he passed on Roy because of knee concerns (which is now ironic with Foye). He admitted they took a different route with Love. A lot of what happened with McHale was because he FUBAR’d some stuff, but there are plenty of things that happened out of his control…starting with Starbury…..which is another subject we’ll deal with here if and when he and KG see the court together again. That will sting more than anything else if they win it all.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can start writing that post. Marbury will wear #8
I feel similar to you about the Spurs. Quality organization that continues to find diamonds in the rough and builds with patience, mostly nice fans, my cousin lives there and has season tickets, I still hate the team.
Proud Odensheeple
by Norsktroll on Feb 27, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Paul a reasonable target?
do tell how anyone will pry him away from NO, at least for the several seasons he still has on his current extension. As a free agent a few years from now, maybe
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by Honka Playboy on Feb 28, 2009 2:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like to stick with facts, not what other people "think we think"
Point of fact. The Blazers are the 2nd youngest team in the league, yet they are 14 game over .500. That is impressive any way you shake it.
If you poll Blazer fans most will say that they believe that this young Blazer team will be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs. That is not over estimating our team as your iPhone vs Zune comparison would suggest.
We are just very passionate about our team, end of story.
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Feb 27, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HEY!
I like my Zune. In fact, I like it so much I gave my iPod to my 5-year old.
And yes, I’ve been a Blazers fan since 1976.
by DonkeyShins on Feb 28, 2009 12:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You just got thumped by a Zune
deal with it
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by Fund A Mental on Feb 28, 2009 1:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"I"
…didn’t get thumped by anything.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 28, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice analysis Stop-n-pop
I see the hate for pritch, and the love for BlazersEdge, but who do you think is gonna win this game?
Blazers are struggling on the road, and the Wolves certainly have their problems right now, so, you know what they say about “any given Sunday” (or Friday, I guess).
Do only Blazer fans comment on your post?
See ya all tonight-
vanillathrillagorillapryzbilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Feb 27, 2009 11:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers should win...
…as they simply have too many horses for the Wolves to run against. The Wovles actually do alright in the minutes that Love fills for Jefferson. They do OK in the minutes that Miller fills for Brewer. It’s the minutes that these guys can’t fill that are the problem. The only way they win from here on out is if someone gets crazy hot or they go nuts as a team from 3. They are still competing at this point but there is simply too much of a talent gap right now with Big Al out and guys they thought would be solid reserves (Brewer and McCants) no longer around because of injury or stupidity.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot a couple of old Blazer chestnuts.
Be sure to mention Jail Blazers and Sam Bowie over MJ, too, and Oden is the next Sam Bowie, next time you want to slam the Blazers. And it rains a lot in Portland. And how could you forget to write that Blazer fans suck?
by MiledAnimal on Feb 27, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
We avoid the Jail Blazer stuff...
…as off-court activities are not something we pay attention to here at Hoopus. Unless a player has his own public website, we keep things to the court.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
mayn people called dem de Jail Blazers sum called dem de Weed Blazers
i wuz part uv de latter mayn! i can only imagine de amoutn of kill chiefed on de way to a game between damon stoudemire, z-bo derck anderson, hell even SABONIS mayn! ah mayn i herd dey got dat KILLLLL up in portland doe mayn i wud burn wun wit Greg Oden den be like MAYN HOL UP how u yunger den me playa?!?!?
MAYN HOL UP!
by MAYNHOLUP on Feb 27, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can somebody please translate
I can’t read this, can anybody translate it for me? That is, if you care…
by PDynastyX on Feb 27, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll try....
“In the past, some people referred to the Portland Trailblazers as ‘Jail Blazers’ though some people preferred ‘Weed Blazers’”
I [Mr. Maynholup] preferred ‘Weed Blazers’. Furthermore, I can only imagine that the quantity of marijuana consumed by Damon Stoudemire, Zach Randolph and Derek Anderson on the way to the arena before a game was a large quantity indeed. I even imagine that Sabonis partook, such was the culture and perception of the Trailblazers at that time. In addition, I understand that the greater Portland area has marijuana of a particular high quality and I would greatly enjoy consuming this marijuana with Greg Oden. While doing so I imagine I would be flabbergasted that Greg Oden, who looks like Bill Russell’s younger brother, is younger than me, and I would tell him that by saying ‘how are you younger than me Greg?’ "
MAYN HOL UP!
by CaliWolf on Feb 27, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
yea!
you smoked that translation like a syrup covered black’n’mild
by secretarykissinger on Feb 27, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
'cept I don't think DA was involved with the ganja in the car.... As I recall. Although the Jail Blazers offenses were many and maybe I forget.
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 27, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, so you really don't like the Blazers
I get your reasons and understand where you are coming from. I would say that I don’t think Miles was boo’d for ruining the capspace— he was boo’d because he’s seen as part of the Jail Blazers era that people want to forget— the likes of Zach Randolph, Rasheed Wallace and Bonzi Wells get boo’d in Portland also. I’m not a big fan of it myself, but people pretty much boo anything associated with that time in Blazer history.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Feb 27, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I loved Portland era Rasheed Wallace. He was fighting a one man battle against ref stupidity and such.
by oblivionspocket on Feb 27, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
Sheed for life
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by Fund A Mental on Feb 27, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Quite a bite of spite...
…so just to be clear, you are now blaming Kevin Pritchard for the Wolves being a complete joke? Wouldn’t it be a bit more constructive to aim your hatred towards the Joe Smith contract debacle? or McHale himself, who in the last 13 years has turned the Wolves from a promising playoff contender into a promising punch line?
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by cic on Feb 27, 2009 6:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
his hatred for the Blazers
is nothing different than our hating the Lakers. That doesn’t make Dave spiteful. It’s just his prejudice. Stop complaining about his Blazer comments on a Wolves blog. Do I agree with him? No, but this is his blog and he has the right to his opinion.
by Cablinasian on Feb 27, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
obviously I agree with the freedom to express oneself and that also has nothing to do with my point. Mr Stop-N-Pop seems to have a serious issue personally with KP, which I simply do not understand at all. Dave hates the Lakers, sure, but that does not mean that he hates Jerry Buss, or Phil Jackson, or Jerry West personally. He does not like the franchise that has ripped out his heart on the court time and time again.
I just find it amusing that one man, who has never suited up to play an NBA game can have so much hatred thrown his way. Sounds to me like jealousy more than anything… which is also understandable. If I were a wolves fan and had lived through the draft picks/trades of the last 10 years, I would be bitter too.
kid: "Hey Jerryd, what's it feel like to dunk on someone?"
Jerryd: "It feels good"
by cic on Feb 27, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you don't have to have a personal issue with someone..
….to think they’re a jerk. Trust me, I get email to that effect all the time….including a whole bunch today.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear ya
and for the record, I always used to think that Kevin McHale was a jerk because the dude could simply not be stopped on the court. No matter what you did to counter his moves, he always seemed to come out on top in any match-up. Come to think of it….maybe this is the same reason some fans do not like Kevin Pritchard….perhaps?
… and for what it’s worth Mr. Pop, I have no personal issues, do not think that you are a jerk and have absolutely no plans to write you an angry email, or to sue you for that matter.
kid: "Hey Jerryd, what's it feel like to dunk on someone?"
Jerryd: "It feels good"
by cic on Feb 27, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's cool...
…i get how the internets work. Ain’t no thang.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can see how the Darius thing also looked bad to the rest of the nation
It wasn’t so much about the comeback. I’ll restate my feelings about why I think the booing was totally appropriate:
I was a half season ticket holder when Darius was on the team. I thought he had a chance of turning the team around, and he was a big part of my decision to get the tickets. I had to struggle to pay for those tickets being pretty fresh out of school, and I had to sit through his train wreck of a career. $100 a night for some good seats to watch a guy who placed strip clubs and his drug habit in front of basketball. He wasn’t anything close to a model player in any regard, locker room, away from the arena, training, anything. He had a ton of talent that he squandered. And now, since he decided to actually work, finally, when his career is in jeopardy, I’m supposed to be happy for the guy? On top of that, he again hurt the team by coming back. I can applaud the effort he finally put out, it was surely a great uphill battle. But it just feels like he was constantly sticking it to the team, consciously or not, intentionally or not, but if I were there I would have given him the boos that he surely deserved for all the pain he has cost myself personally and the franchise for so long.
It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.
by einman77 on Feb 27, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Treatment of Darius was classless... By the team when he was hurt, by the booty-kissing Portland press, by the team when he was coming back...
…………………… by the simpleton fans who blamed the LOUSY contract on Miles, instead of where blame belonged (i.e. the organization). So I’m totally fine with any bile that anyone in America wants to dump on the Blazers over the Miles fiasco, ’cause they have it coming…
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 27, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
We (Portland) looked like a bunch of d*cks.
by DonkeyShins on Feb 28, 2009 12:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just "joined" Canis Hoopus
And it asked me to agree with the site policies, one of which was “don’t be mean”
Now… do I use this post as my baseline or as my epic failure?
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Feb 27, 2009 7:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
Re-read it. Can’t believe it still.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Feb 27, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean,
You’re basically blaming the Blazers for McHale being an idiot.
I mean, I know Timberwolve’s fans are reaching this year for anything, but… man… wow.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Feb 27, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you being serious?
Is that really what you’re getting out of it?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
God, these people are insane.
Guess that’s what happens when your baseball, football, hockey and basketball fans are all wrapped up in one. Good lord people.
by plinytheelder on Feb 27, 2009 7:42 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Green Bay West
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's actually quite close. When I first moved to Oregon, I thought Blazer fans were cultists and that's really sort of true, even though I've joined myself, 20 years later...
The great love of KP is related to this phenomenon, in case you’re seriously interested in trying to understand it… He’s the man that gave the people of Oregon their professional sports back — like if the Cincinnati Bengals were really in Green Bay somebody came in and singlehandedly restored the team………..
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 27, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now I know....
….what my Wisconsin co-workers mean when they talk about Ted Thompson ;)
Thanks for the input.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW: A lot of old school Oregonians came here from Wisconsin... My grandmother and her siblings from Mauston all came out...
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 28, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
..................... and Oregon looks like Wisconsin ('cept not as cold in the winter...).
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 28, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but are there funny accents and sausage?
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 28, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
After reading all this
I sure have a much deeper appreciation for the way Dave handles himself on the Blazers Edge.
"All humans are hypocrites. The dumb humans are the ones that cant recognize this fact."-- Sophia
by bow4meow on Feb 27, 2009 8:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Especially....
…when he axed one of your most recent comments. Sorry to disappoint you, your highness.
Good lord, if you don’t like it, don’t read it.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm unaware of any comment Dave axed
nevertheless, it doesn’t change my opinion of the quality of the product delivered on Blazers Edge vs. that on Canis Hoopis.
Good lord, if you don’t like it, don’t read it.
Tell me, how am I supposed to know if I don’t like it, unless I read it?
"All humans are hypocrites. The dumb humans are the ones that cant recognize this fact."-- Sophia
by bow4meow on Feb 28, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Are you really the type of person...
….who tries a bite of something she doesn’t like and then instead of not trying it again has to tell the entire world (and the chef) about how it is not as good as the things she does like…even though there are plenty of other people sitting around her enjoying the food?

Thanks for coming and don’t worry about a tip.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 28, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I'm not
but if there was a fly in my soup, I’d let the staff know about it.
I’ve read Canis Hoopis material from time to time, and really wasn’t trying to over-generalize an opinion based on one foul morsel. I respect your opinion, even if it seems contrary to my palate. Its not like I’m the Gordon Ramsay of the site.
Try not to act so defensive about it. Oops, my bad. I’m just used to tipping despite bad service.
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by bow4meow on Feb 28, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yea
I asked and Dave said he hasn’t axed any of my comments. Not that I haven’t given him the opportunity or temptation to do so before, but treading the line is different than crossing it. Not sure if you confused me with someone else.
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by bow4meow on Feb 28, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
still talking...
….all the way out the door….
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 28, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Well........
SnP, you’ve rattled some cages in Blazerland.
My boxscore has frozen. What’s happening?
by Auswolf on Feb 27, 2009 9:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
more than a lot
it was fugly.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blazers needed this game bad
Would have been the third loss in a row, cant have that happen when fighting for a playoff spot. They gave the Wolves their full attention.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 27, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they definitely came to play..
…and it was a nice win for you guys. Honestly. I don’t want to give the impression that I have it out for Blazers fans. They needed the win and they played like it. As much as Pryz burned the Gophs, I like seeing a Minny kid do well.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry too much about Blazer fans
I am surprised that they are surprised to not be receiving praise from other team’s blogs. We are division rivals for crying out loud. I visit this site often and find it very well run, keep up the good work.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 27, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Much appreciated...
…and, to be honest, I was a big Sabonis fan when he was in the league. The man had skilz to spare.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 27, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
.............. and that was the tail end of his career. Imagine how crazy-good he must have been at age 27 or 28...
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 28, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the Blazer craze coming down on your site.
I get the attitude with the team. It’s probably the same way I feel towards Jazz fans. I hate Okur, I like the rest of the team, but I hated the old Jazz teams. The pinnacle was the foul call Malone got for Brian Grant hitting his elbow flying backwards with his face. The most ridiculous call I can ever remember.
Jazz fans are my true constant source of hatred. I have never been around such a constant negative group as Jazz fans. Seriously we all want homer ref calls for our team, but WOW they take it to another level. I sit next to seats that some how always end up being different random Jazz fans at Blazer games and it never ceases to fail me the Eor attitude they have all game.
We are definitely the NBA version of Cheese heads, that is the first time I have heard it, but a very accurate description. I do like the Seahawks and Mariners, but it just isn’t the same. Thanks for the tolleration. Good luck to your team in the lottery. I hope OKC get’s screwed on their pick for what they did to Seattle, and no one was happier than me when they turned down the Chandler trade. That was the only thing that made our teams lack of activity at the deadline tollerable.
by Titlein2011 on Feb 27, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I guess I wonder why you would focus that much hate on the Blazers. It seems to me that we are in very similar situations. If you look at the make up of the league, there are some teams on the rise with good young cores with poor records i.e. Wolves, Thunder, Grizzlies, who will get better quickly as the mature and hopefully add talent through the draft. The Blazers and Hawks are also on their way up with solid cores but despite their youth are playoff contenders not looking at the draft board. However we know that it will likely be one and done for us and maybe even a sweep. Essentially we are on the same river you are just floating slightly in front of you. There are other teams who are hitting snags now or will be soon because of age, like the Suns and Spurs or any team in financial trouble. I think your anger is better served at teams like Denver, who has come out of steep decline to renewed strength and the annoyingly good and youthful L*kers.
P.S.
Blazers fans agree with you that we are still missing key pieces and many of these same fans who love K.P. were dissapointed he did not make a move at the trade deadline.
by The Natural ala Mode on Feb 28, 2009 12:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Stop and Pop
you still haven’t answered the main question blazer fans (including myself) are wondering. Do you hate the product the blazers put on the floor (IE Roy, Aldridge, Oden), or is your hate completely focused on the front office (KP)?
by premthegrem on Feb 28, 2009 4:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow, we proved your discribtion of the rabid fanbase erie acurate
sorry, we have little man syndrom, erm, i mean, small market syndrom, you know, only one team and all that
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Feb 28, 2009 7:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
c'mon
there’s a big difference between having small-market syndrome and having a Napolean complex, neither of which I believe apply to Trail Blazer fans. Rabid fan-base, yes.
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by bow4meow on Feb 28, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who is Napolean?
Is he related to Napoleon?
But, yes. We have small-market syndrome. We’re that gang with only a little bit of territory, but we defend the &&%&^ out of it.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Feb 28, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's definitely related to the fact that there is no pro baseball, football, or hockey here...
When you’ve got only one sport, you overcompensate, sorta like the way a deaf-dumb-and-blind kid can sure play a mean pinball…
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 28, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

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