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College year-end draft board pt ii, the wingmen

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OK folks, let's get to it.  You can read about the Hoopus Score in pt i of our end-of-the-college year extravaganza here.  Basically, what we're about to give you is a two-pronged score that measures quality (efficiency/poss-based stats) and quantity (net number of positive events/game) of this, that, or the other college player.  It is a formula that has its limitations but also a fairly decent upside.  Last year an early version helped us identify our top 10 picks and it has since been adjusted to account for a shortcoming in being able to give enough value to guards (see Westbrook, Russell) and to properly weigh the value of wings (see Alexander, Joe).  We still got a lot right, with Kevin Love and Brook Lopez clearly identified as the BPAs with the Wolves on the clock with their top pick and Mario Chalmers as the BPA available with their top 2nd rounder.  Here are a few of last year's rankings with updated scores:

Guards:

  1. Derrick Rose: 32.725/7.875 (40.625) 
  2. O.J. Mayo: 28.375/8.538 (35.632)
  3. Russell Westbrook: 29.2/5.730 (34.93)
  4. Mario Chalmers: 26.375/8.538 (34.913)

And bigs:

  1. Kevin Love: 41.525/15.589 (57.114)
  2. Michael Beasley: 37.875/13.742 (51.617)
  3. Brook Lopez: 34.85/11.092 (45.942)

Please keep in mind that these scores are only useful within a specific year and player type.  The purpose of the Hoopus Score is to help you rate players in the current draft.  Eventually we'll be able to have a unified theory that goes year-to-year....but not now. Anywho...

We think we've worked out a few of the kinks this time around and with no further delay, here are the wings/big guards:

  1. Evan Turner: 36.5/10.359 (47.009)
  2. Demar Derozan: 31.3/13.879 (45.179)
  3. Al Farouq Aminu: 35.475/8.758 (44.233)
  4. Kyle Singler: 31.525/9.666 (41.191)
  5. Ty Smith: 32.8/7.867 (40.667)
  6. Chase Budinger: 29.575/10.953 (40.528)
  7. Damion James: 31.05/9.3 (40.35)
  8. DeJuan Summers: 33.625/5.370 (38.62)
  9. Sam Young: 29.8/8.196 (37.996)
  10. Terrence Williams: 26.775/11.06 (37.835)
  11. Earl Clark: 28.75/8.867 (37.617)
  12. Austin Daye: 28.725/7.838 (36.588)
  13. Danny Green: 25.325/8.921 (34.246)

Let's take a look at the top 5 on the efficiency side of things:

  1. Evan Turner (36.5)
  2. Al Farouq Aminu: (35.475)
  3. DeJuan Summers: (33.625)
  4. Ty Smith (32.8)
  5. Kyle Singler (31.525)

Here is the net production side:

  1. Demar Derozan (13.879)
  2. Terrence Williams (11.06)
  3. Chase Budinger (10.953)
  4. Evan Turner (10.359)
  5. Kyle Singler (9.666)

OK, before I go on to briefly sing the praises of Evan Turner, let me write a bit about Mr. Derozan.  Not too long ago I jokingly compared him to former Wolf Gerald "Cupcake" Green.  While I was for the most part joking, the point of the statement was that Derozan is more athletic potential than anything else at this point.  After looking at his stat sheet, I could not have been more wrong with that comparison. 

Derozan is shooting 56.1% from 2.  While he can't seem to hit the broad side of a barn from beyond the arc (18.2%), his shooting from inside is 5-6% higher than everyone in the top 5 on both sides of this equation except for Aminu (who shoots 57% from inside the arc).  Derozan has the 2nd highest number of OReb adjusted for pace and 40 minutes of play.  He has an Oreb% that would place him in the upper levels of what would be expected from the 2 guard spot.  He doesn't turn the ball over a lot.  His handle isn't developed, yet he still carries a very respectable 40% FT rate.  Despite his lack of a 3 point shot, he doesn't take a boatload of shots to score his points.  To give you an idea of how nice of a thing this was to see in an athletic freshman wing with an NBA body, no outside shot, and a developing handle, Derozan scored 485 points on 367 shots (1.321/shot) while Texas guard A.J. Abrams needed 484 shots to get 580 points (1.198/shot).  Best of all, Derozan forced nothing this year at USC.  He seems to be a team player with miles and miles of upside.

This has nothing to do with his tourney play: Derozan is the 2nd best wing on the board and he hasn't even begun to tap into his potential. 

The best wing on the board is Evan Turner.  I've gone on and on about him all year so I won't rehash it all here. Size, rebounding, passing, defense, solid character...it's all there.  I don't think he has the upper-level upside of someone like Derozan, but he'll be as close to Brandon Roy as the Wolves are going to get at this point. 

Beyond Turner and Derozan, I think Aminu is the obvious 3rd choice.  He has fantastic quality numbers and the quantity side's relative lack of strength may run into the same issue that probably plagued Jeff Teague: there simply wasn't enough pie to go around on Wake Forrest. 

After Aminu, it's pretty much a crap shoot.  I will say that I really like Terrance Williams.  He is a stat sheet stuffer and while his quality score was simply ok, his quantity score was the 2nd best amongst the wings.  He's big and athletic and he looks to be the type of player that could defend at the next level.  I'm not sure that makes him a starter, but as a big fan of Trevor Ariza, this is the type of player I think a team could reasonably expect  down the line with  the Louisville wing.

As an interesting side note, one of the big casualties of the new and improved Hoopus Score was Danny Green.  Why? The biggest reason on the quality side is that he simply doesn't get to the line.  The biggest reason on the quantity side is that he's just sort of there.  I don't know of any better way to put it.  

The most disappointing players on the wing list are Earl Clark, and Austin Daye.  Both of these guys look like they were put on this earth to play basketball.  They are long and athletic, they can both show bursts of awesome quickness for their size, they have streaks of play where you really just have to shake your head and wonder how they can be stopped.  They also are equally (and relatively) inefficient; Clark doesn't get to the line well and isn't that good of a shooter, while Daye doesn't get to the line and carries a 5.2 OReb% on a 6'11" frame.  Sorry, that sucks.  Young is...disappointing isn't the right word.  He is what he is, just like the rest of the middle of the wing pack: Budinger, Smith, James, and Summers.  I think teams will get servicable 10th men in all 5 of these players.  I think teams will get starters with Turner, Derozan, and Aminu.  They will get an excellent 6th or 7th man with Williams.  Derozan and Aminu are still raw enough to be considered scary lotto picks, and they may not start for a year or two, but I think they will eventually work out, especially Derozan. 

That about does it for the wings.  I'll put up the bigs post in a day or two. 

Until later.

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I just can’t seem to get excited for this years wing class. Haven’t seen Derozan play though I did see Evan Turner (and am going to watch him more on recordings) but I’d really hate having to spend our top pick on either of them.

I Have virtually no interest in the rest of those guys. We already got Miller, Brewer and Carney. Carney was a nr 16 pick in an equal or better 2006 draft and Brewer was nr 7 in a better 2007 class. Miller was a nr 6 pick (right?). My point being … can we really expect to get someone better than those 3 with someone’s who’s projected to go 8-12 in a very weak draft? I just don’t think that’s realistic.

If we do get a “starter” wing we really need to get him from through FA en trade; these 2 guys are just out of our range; not good enough for the top pick and too good for our nr18 pick. I already said it, if we don’t get into the top 3 we’ll end up picking someone like DeRozan with that top pick and I fear we’re getting another 6th man but no superstar guy. Either start winning games and give the pick or trade up in the top 3…

Great work again, can’t wait to see how Thabeet is gonna fare with the new formula :D

Beater of the early Thabeet drum

by Wim (Belgium) on Mar 25, 2009 5:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Derozan

I think if the Wolves are picking 3rd-9th, and Rubio and Griffin are off the board, we need to pick Derozan. He’s the only player out there with real superstar potential, and for a team that is starved of athleticism it’s a risk we need to take. No one else has the upside that he has with that early pick, and if we just get another starter, then we aren’t going anywhere anyways. The top 5 for the Wolves should go like this…

1. Griffin
2. Rubio
3. Derozan
4/5. Aldrich/Harden…I’m not sure who I’d want yet.

by Blakeley on Mar 25, 2009 6:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty much going to be...

…a big part of the last post. I have one major addition. The big question the Wolves have is this: Bassy or Foye to the bench? If they want to keep Foye, I think they have to consider Tyreke Evans. They need a back court player in this draft. Even if they choose Bassy, they can pick Derozan and work him in with Foye. If Aldrich is available, they have to consider him. Harden is another possibility if he measures out well. Evans is interesting. He’s 6’6" with a 6’11" wingspan. That’s amazing at the point. There would definitely be some growing pains involved but I think he’s just as interesting of a prospect as is Derozan. Plus, he can run the pick and roll like gangbusters. It’s not that hard for a point to get the ball to Big Al, but with Love, they could have a pretty interesting 2 man game. Plus, he could guard the big 2s in the league while Foye deals with the points. Evans changes a lot of things for this club.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 25, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Point Guard Depth

While I agree with what you see in Evans, one of the reasons I’m sold on DeRozan as the pick is the depth at point guard in the draft. You’re right in saying that in terms of wings…There’s a top two and then a huge drop off. Point guard not so much. I’d love to see the Wolves come away with DeRozan with our first pick, and then hope that Evans/Jennings/Curry/Maynor/Lawson/Flynn/Warren/Holliday falls to the Miami pick (not included: Jeff Teague…gross). If we take Evans with our first pick, then who are we hoping drops down to us? Terrence Williams or Jerome Jordan maybe? I’m not sure.

The counter argument to what I just said is that the Wolves are one star player away from really making the jump. If you think Evans is that star, then we have to take him with our top pick and you don’t even consider the depth at other positions.

by Blakeley on Mar 25, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's one of the big questions....

….they’ll have to deal with. Do they take the big guard or do they take someone like Curry, Patty Mills, or Maynor, all of whom really wouldn’t be able to do anything about guarding big 2s?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 25, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

There is bound to be a good value at the PG position that slips to the Miami pick. Obviously we take Rubio with our first pick if we can, but otherwise, it’s tough to justify any other PG with that first slot. But someone from that cadre of names you mentioned is bound to be there at #18.

On Evans, I’m not convinced he can play PG in our system. Remember the Memphis system is predicated on dribble drive motion. That’s perfect for him. He can dominate the ball, look for the dribble drive or pull-up jumper, and if nothing is there he simply swings it on the perimeter to another player. I love him defensively though, but I’m just not convinced he can orchestrate a low-post oriented offense.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 25, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few thoughts

1. Turner kind of reminds me in some ways of Josh Childress (Who I’m of the mindset should be FA target number 1). Turner probably has a more natural shooting stroke. A Turner/Calathes combo would seem a decent replacment for Rubio/Childress dream combo.

2. I think the best player to think of for upside with Derozan is Vince Carter. He’s not there yet but this projects as his upside. This is a better comparsion it would seem than Brandon Roy/Dwayne Wade as he doesn’t have the PG skills that make these guys so unique.

by Jose Cordoba on Mar 25, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rubio/Childress...

…would not be a bad thing at all if the reports about Rubio are correct.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 25, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

James Johnson?

Did you evaluate him in this group? He put up some guady numbers as the season went on. He was also the only guy who got off the team bus against Cleveland State.

by Pants_ on Mar 25, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I should have...

….as I included Damion James. I have him in the bigs grouping. He is a similar player to James and in hindsight I should have placed him here. Here are his scores:

29.375/10.770 (40.145)

Now, depending on what group you want to put him in, he comes out as a mid-range wing or a lower-level big. It all depends on how well he can play from the perimeter in the NBA. He may be a guy where it would be nice to see some level of progression within his score. Next year I’ll run the score at 3 times during the season.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 25, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now, depending on what group you want to put him in, he comes out as a mid-range wing or a lower-level big. It all depends on how well he can play from the perimeter in the NBA.

To get a good big guard/wing you have to find the guy who makes the transition from athletic SF/PG college player into shooter. Rarely is this type of thing easy to spot.

The best example being Paul Pierce.

by Pants_ on Mar 25, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kyle Singler?

with one of these very late first rounders? Big, solid athleticism, good character, high basketball IQ, good spot-up shooter. We could do worse. Not a star, but he seems like a solid role player in the league. Feels like the kind of guy Phil Jackson would draft somehow.

by princelyfrank on Mar 25, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh for our team

Great, another unathletic “skilled” player. Don’t we have enough of these already? I like him too, but not with our current mix of player personnel. I want guys that are big, long, strong, and fast up and down our draft board. Give me a guy like Sam Young with one of those later picks. He has a real NBA body and can defend.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 25, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he also grew up playing against Kevin Love...

….not that this would come into a realistic player evaluation, but I think I remember seeing something about them being tight. I could be wrong. I think Terrence Williams is the steal of the mid level or mid-to-late round guys. Chase Budinger might be worth a peak with the Utah or Celtics pick. All that being said, they could do a lot worse in the 20s.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 25, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few thoughts on this....

First, this definitely tracks more to reality than the PG one where I think Curry and Calathes are overrated due to there being no subjective overview of the results that considers defensive potential and athleticism. If I were doing a mock of big guards/wings, this is pretty much how I’d rank ’em. Great stuff.

But….Where the hell is Gerald Henderson!? He has to be in the mix here somewhere.

On the PG vs. SG debate and whether Foye or Telfair hits the bench, I think we just let the chips fall where they may on this. We need to take the BPA with our pick and then let that person compete for the starting role with whoever the incumbent is now. I’d say DeRozan won’t be ready to take on the starting 2 role next season. He still has some pretty big holes in his game. He is an upside pick. I also think most of the PGs in this draft aren’t ready to start either. In other words, with the exception of may be Harden, Turner, and Rubio, I don’t think there is anyone in this draft that could displace Telfair/Foye on day 1.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 25, 2009 11:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just to be clear...

…about the first post, it’s for guards in general. We debated back and forth on whether or not to go with a separate point guard post and ultimately decided against it because assists are a bulls$%t stat. In the end, we used assists but weighted it in a way that wouldn’t account for a full assist…among a few other things.

Also, this is just a tool to help in player evaluation. In the bigs post I’ll give an example of how the stat needs to be complimented (hint: it has to do with Hasheem Thabeet). You are 100% right that defensive potential and athleticism have to be taken into account. In the last post of this series, this is why I will advocate for Tyreke Evans as being one of the top 5 (hopefully) available players. The guy is 6’6" with a 6’11.5" wingspan and I think I read somewhere that he grew a 1/2 inch over the course of the season. In many ways, his strengths and weaknesses are the opposite of Mayo. He’s big and can get into the lane and get fouled, but he doesn’t have a good outside shot. Mayo is a tad short and can’t get to the line but he has a pretty good outside shot. Both could probably play the point if given the chance and a few years.

Also, while this draft may be somewhat deep at the point, the true points are all short (Maynor, Lawson, Mills) and they really offer the Wolves no significant defensive upgrade over what they already have. The same pressures that face a Bassy/Foye duo will face a Lawson/Foye one or a Mills/Foye one. Are Maynor and Lawson an upgrade over Bassy on offense? Scoring wise, I think they are, but is it enough to make up for the problems that still exist on defense? I think they’re going to have to take a long hard look at Evans no matter what. And, in this sense, the Hoopus Score is just a secondary tool for determining player worth. The Wolves have needs that the BPA Hoopus Score player(s) cannot fill.

That being said, I do think the Hoopus Score works fairly well with identifying the players who have the best chance at being solid pros. Out of our top 10 last year we batted 7/10 with misses on Alexander and CDR and the jury being out on DJ White (who missed most of the season with jaw surgery). As far as taking into account individual team needs, it is admittedly and purposefully lacking. That’s where scouting has to take over and where we get to argue about what we see in player x, y, or z. We’d be happy as a clam if we could create a draft board where 7 or 8 out of our top 10 picks turned into solid pros. That’s the driving motivation with the score.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 25, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the clarification

It’s a very enjoyable read and I love the whole draft process and the speculation and debates that go around it.

On the point guards, if you end up with a guy like Maynor – who can score too – than why can’t he get some burn with Brewer at the 2 and Gomes/Miller at the 3 (if Miller is still around)? I’d throw Johnny Flynn into that category as well…..Not saying these guys would pan out as scorer/playmakers, but don’t sleep on Brewer as a strong defensive 2 if surrounded by a 1 and 3 that can shoot and score. Brewer is the one young guy we had that showed some nice steps of improvement under Wittman’s reign prior to going down to injury. I’m still hopeful this guy can produce.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 25, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that is a very viable alternative....

….especially with Maynor. Maynor is a solid, solid player. I guess I’d want to see how he measures out. I’m pretty sure Flynn is a midget so I’d want to avoid that. I just think they need to have something different than Bassy in the other point guard spot…and by “different” I mean either a very good scorer with passable size or a (relative) giant like Evans or Calathes. I think Maynor could qualify on the scoring front. If they feel they could get Maynor with the Heat pick (or by moving up with the Heat pick), then I think they can be a bit more aggressive with their top pick (i.e. Aldrich, Derozan, Aminu…guys like that).

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by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 25, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bassy...

I’m still not sold on Bassy being part of a point guard combo for the Wolves. As someone that loves efficiency stats, they really don’t work in Bassy’s favor at all. They actually tend to make the case that he’s potentially the worst player starting for a team in the whole league. I know he’s improved and all, but I still don’t see it.

I’d say that most of the point guards expected to be drafted in the first round have better long term potential than Bassy.

by Blakeley on Mar 25, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team has rarely started Al Jeff and Love together. That means there is another big man starter on this team that is BETTER than Telfair? Craig Smith? Collins?

For that matter…. Randy Foye?

by Pants_ on Mar 25, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me re-phrase it...

You could make the case that Bassy is the worst player in the league averaging over 25 minutes a game. Other players in contention for that title would be…

1. Mike James
2. Yi Jianlian
3. Earl Watson

And that’s it.

by Blakeley on Mar 25, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewer

I might be in the minority on this one- I would love to see Brewer if healthy start at the 3 next year. Brewer on D could then guard the opposing team’s best perimeter player. His length would possibly make the Love-Jefferson trio on D look a lot better if you prevented the other team from attacking the basket at will. I question his shooting and lack of handle at the 2. This could be off-set by the skills of a 3 like Mike Miller I suppose. Although he showed signs of becoming a capable NBA shooter in November. A player like Brewer could make the whole Defensive look more capable.

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by Jose Cordoba on Mar 25, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewer

was a difference maker for us in the games he did play for us this year. He had an outstanding net +/- rating of +7 per 100 possessions and a +/- of +.5 while he was on the court. Our eFG% against while on the court? 48.2. While off the court? 51.7. It isn’t a huge sample of games, so perhaps it was the competition or just random luck, but in watching him over the years in college and his rookie season, he really is a high-motor defender that is pretty relentless. We have no one that can really touch him in terms of the pure tenacity he brings to the table defensively.

That being said, I do not consider Brewer to be a “long” 3 by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, his standing reach is a pretty mediocre 8’7. He just looks long because he is so darn skinny. He is long by 2-guard standards though and I think defensively that’s where I see the most potential for him. So yeah, throw him out there with another bigger wing like Gomes or Miller. Now if we end up with a combo forward like Earl Clark or Aminu (not saying they are on my must have list, but if we fall far enough in the lottery, you have to think about them in the 7-9 range), you could be looking at a serious lockdown situation on the wings, with one of those guys playing the 3 and Brewer at the 2. Of course your outside shooting goes to hell, but hey, you can’t have everything. And unlike Brewer, these two guys can offer some weakside shotblocking to go along with their on the ball D.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 25, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CDR...

has had a couple of good games lately. Maybe you didn’t miss on him? We shall see.

by littleboxes on Mar 25, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet Stuff!

I’ve been on the Aminu bandwagon for a while, now. Even though he might be more of a 4-3 than a 3-4 hybrid (think Josh Smith/Brenden Wright upside more than Luol Deng). But if his reach/span is as good as advertised (comprable to a 7 footer), then he could be the answer to neutralizing the perimeter bigs that just kill the Wolves. He’d also be a good fit for the running game they try to run when Al takes a breather.

Derozan’s real interesting, as I too considered him a tease initially, and I just haven’t paid much attention to him since then. And with multiple picks, maybe they try to gamble a bit on someone with some upside, like Derozan or Evans or Aminu.

Great stuff. From a Wolves’ perspective, it’s good to see the prospects may be a bit better than commonly thought. And it’s good to see some guys—like Turner and Williams—currently projected mid-round. A take-it-to-the-house draft would involve landing Griffen/Rubio/Aminu first and then having an Evans/Turner/Derozan/Williams slide to the point where they could trade up to get them.

by jianfu on Mar 25, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

draft express has aminu...

…with a 7’4" wingspan. that’s absurd.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 25, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes...

Yeah, with that sort of reach, he could be that athletic, defensive big we’re all looking for, even though he’s only 6’8" or 6’9". I think his downside is Tyrus Thomas, minus the boneheaded plays, except Aminu’s a much better/efficient offensive threat than Thomas was at LSU, and you’d think he could carry that forward and have a shot at becoming something really nice.

If the Wolves don’t move up and are at around 5 or 6, I think Aminu would be a very solid pick. He could essentially consolidate the roles of Gomes and Smith into one roster spot, but with much more length, athleticism, and upside. Even if all he becomes is a Ty Thomas type, that’s certainly something they could use. And longer term, I think you could try to groom as either a big in the Josh Smith/Brenden Wright/Thad Young mold or a 3 in the Gerald Wallace mold.

by jianfu on Mar 25, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s interesting; hadn’t given Aminu any consideration because of his size but if we do happen to stay out of the Griffin/Rubio/Harden range … Well, let’s take a look at least.

Beater of the early Thabeet drum

by Wim (Belgium) on Mar 26, 2009 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a very interesting player

one where you would really like to see another season in college so you could get a better handle, but very nice.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 26, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

He was supposed to be a wing coming into Wake, but Wake ended up needing him a lot in the post. So what is he? How would he play with Jeff Teague gone, and the likely increased usage rate that would give him?

DeJaun Blair is another shorter front post guy with an enormous wing span to allow him to play much bigger. Although I’m not sure Blair could operate/defend in space outside any better than Love. That aspect of Aminu’s game really intrigues me. (DAMN YOU MEHMET OKUR!!! ) That, and Aminu’s versatility and upside.

by jianfu on Mar 26, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Demar Derozan

He turned it on at the end of the season, and he is able to hustle a lot of offensive rebounds and put backs just off of offensive rebounds alone. He is significantly better than he was at the start of the season, and much of it was simply getting the confidence to attack and shoot when the ball was put in his hands. Also, with regards to three point shooting concerns, Derozan was at one point 0-22 and has since gone 6-14. Its not that he doesn’t have the range, his jumper is pretty fantastic after all and he shot 54% from beyond te arc his senior year of hS, its just that it took him some time to get used. He has developed a long ways since he first arrived at SC, and I have to change my earlier stance tat he wasn’t worth spending a lottery pick on.

by Laughing Stock on Mar 25, 2009 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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Game Recap: Houston please don't laugh at our problem.
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