GM Decision Closer or Further Than it Was Last Week?
Various published and unpublished sources, including Glen Taylor himself, set the expectation that the Wolves would name a new GM this week. Since no announcement's been made yet, all we have to sharpen the speculation (sounds like an oxymoron, right?) are pieces from here and there.
Jerry Zgoda over at the Star Tribune has been doing a fantastic job following the story, keeping everyone abreast of what he's hearing.
UPDATE: As pagingstanleyroberts mentions in the comments below, Zgoda's new name is Randy Pfund.
In the comments of his post yesterday, Jerry had this to say in relation to apparent front-runner Dennis Lindsey's candidacy:
Sure doesn’t look like the GM hiring is going to be this week now. I’d think what’s going on are negotiations. The question is whether Glen Taylor is willing to give a guy like Lindsey the kind of autonomy and (financial) resources he’d want to make the move. That includes, I’d think, the freedom to hire who he wants as coach, the assistant coaches and front-office guys he wants to keep, or doesn’t want to. I’d bet Taylor wants to keep people under contract for next season and beyond to save the money, but if you’re going to make a bold new move you’ve got be willing to give the new guy power and leeway to build his organization. That’s the BIG question now, I’m sure. I think Taylor liked this by-committee approach they’ve used the last couple seasons because it’s how he runs his other businesses. He listens to his top people’s opinions and then he makes the final decision. That’s NOT how it works with functional sports teams.
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If they end up with a David Kahn or Fred [Hoiberg] as the new GM eventually, I’d say that means they went to alternate plans because Taylor wasn’t willing to give Lindsey what he feels he needs to do the job right.
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That could be one of the rubs, whether Taylor is willing to let Lindsey hire who he wants [as head coach] or how much of a say Taylor wants in the decision. Making the new guy keep McHale seems long gone, but that doesn’t mean the owner doesn’t want a voice. There’s so many “ifs” in that question, depending on if Taylor is willing to spend what it takes to get an accomplished coach. If you’re looking for connections, Lindsey spent 10 years in Houston, a good bit of them when Jeff Van Gundy was the head coach and Tom Thibodeau was an assistant. That’d be two possibilities. The Spurs’ top assistant, Mike Budenholzer, might be another, but it seems like he’s being groomed to replace Popovich when Pop decides to step away. If Taylor needs a comfort level with the next coach, well, how ’bout Sam Mitchell? I think this team needs a veteran head coach to get it to grow. The other guy out there is Avery Johnson.
There's a lot to digest here, which makes me think that it's not just rumination on Jerry's part, but that some of what you just read is coming from the inside.
The big takeaway is that Taylor's really struggling with handing his team over to someone he doesn't know very well, and the associated risk of none of Taylor's people being left when the dust settles.
I don't think you can fault the man for that. Completely changing the guard after 13 years with his good buddy Kevin McHale at the helm on a handshake agreement should cause some discomfort. But as Zgoda implies, if you're going to change, then change all the way.
Firing Randy Wittman and changing McHale's job title seem obvious indications of Taylor's recognition that change is needed.
Jerry had another post today saying a new name is being batted around. Despite his reluctance to name names, a commenter jokingly threw out the names Terry Porter, Charles Barkley, Chad Hartman and Terry Ryan. Zgoda responded with "All I’ll say is one of ‘em is right…," but at this point I really can't tell if he's joking or not. Any of them would be a huge surprise, no doubt, but couldn't a part of you actually imagine something insane like that happening?
One name that hasn't crossed Zgoda's lips recently (or e-lips, or e-words, or whatever) is Sam Hinkie, Houston's VP of Basketball Operations. He popped up on the radar a few weeks ago, so perhaps he's not the left-field candidate, but I've heard through the grapevine that Hinkie might be under new consideration at this stage.
Whoever the new name is, Stop-n-Pop hit the nail on the head in our chat earlier today:
[a new name] means they're keeping their options open or lindsey is out of play
Exactly. All signs have pointed to Lindsey or David Kahn thus far, and Lindsey seems to have emerged as the top choice (at least from us rumoristas), but if a new name is coming up now, then Taylor's almost surely nervous about something (e.g. cost, personnel, "power") associated with hiring Lindsey.
If Lindsey wants to come in and re-create San Antonio's basketball operations structure, Taylor should lock him up and give him run of the mill immediately. Let's see, San Antonio's been to the playoffs the last 12 years in a row and won four championships in that span. Three students of the Popovich/Buford school of NBA Management are Kevin Pritchard of Portland, Sam Presti of Oklahoma City and Danny Ferry of Cleveland.
NEWSFLASH: All four of those franchises are in better immediate and long-term positions than the Timberwolves.
Sometimes a leap of faith is the only thing that can move you forward. We probably won't know if Taylor's willing to take that leap or not until next week, but I can tell you that my faith is resting on it.
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Could Chris Mullin be a candidate?
I’d be interested in bringing him in. He seems available and was doing a good job in GS before losing out in an internal political struggle.
by Shogun on May 1, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The fact that such a horrible internal political struggle went on in GS worries me. Mullin can’t be completely blameless.
by Pants_ on May 1, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I hear...
Don Nelson and the team president basically forced him out because Nelson didn’t want to have to answer to someone else and the president took his side. Still, the guy did draft Mike Dunleavy 3rd overall and sign him, Jason Richardson, and Troy Murphy to long-term deals. They also signed Speedy Claxton and Derek Fisher to MLEs, traded Antawn Jamison for Nick Van Exel. I think the whole playoff run was the perfect storm — they got B-Davis because they had expiring deals to give the Hornets, they got Captain Jack because the Pacers were sick of him, and they were able to play the Mavs in the first round, which was probably the best possible matchup for them.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the choice is Kahn or Hoiberg because Taylor wouldn’t pony up for Lindsey it is going to be devastating.
by Pants_ on May 1, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree more.
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by wyn on May 1, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's partially encouraging...
That the name is someone not mentioned before, because that rules more unappealing than appealing candidates out (at least from a fan’s perspective).
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've finally come to the point...
… where I’m pretty sure Lindsey’s out of the running. It is nice to hear new names (I’d probably laugh for a day if Sir Charles wasn’t a joke). Kahn has been a universal do-not-want from the get go… and it seems Taylor isn’t sold on him.
Even though the wait is killing me… I’m fine with it as long as we get a good GM in the end.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on May 1, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure Mullin is the perfect candidate...
…but my excitement for him is relative to a baseline expectation of Kahn, which is a very low baseline indeed. I’d be pleasantly surprised if we made a run at Mullin. Those moves for Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson (he also drafted Monta Ellis in the second round, right?) showed that he had an idea about how to put complementary talent together in a way that could succeed. That’s an underrated skill.
by Shogun on May 1, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The new name is Randy Pfund...
The Heat GM and former Lakers coach in the early 90s.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
He intrigues me because Miami’s always been competitive, and he was the one to pick Dwyane Wade when that was definitely not the popular opinion choice. It’s tough to know how much of their team was him and how much was Riley.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would guess that Riley never lost many battles to Pfund.
by Shogun on May 1, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Similarly, though...
Dennis Lindsey probably didn’t win many against Popovich or R.C. Buford. And the Spurs never had to deal with losing their star player in his prime like Miami did with Zo.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That might be a good thing...
If it was Riley who made the deal for Davis and Blount.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points...
The difference I see (and I might be wrong) is that Lindsey is a young up-and-comer and Pfund isn’t. Both have advantages and disadvantages, but for a team in our situation I’d rather go the Lindsey route, as he looks more like Morey type (a guy who combintes stats and scouting, etc). I’m just not confident in Pfund.
by Shogun on May 1, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knee jerk reaction:
WTF?!
As was mentioned above, if they lose out on someone from the Spurs because of money or losing Hoiberg, I’m pissed.
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by Stop-n-Pop on May 1, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
True. True.
I think the other noteworthy statement was about Papa Glen running all the rest of his businesses committee style. Can you really blame a billionaire if he’s reluctant to part with a management style that’s made him, well, a billionaire? If Glen Taylor actually goes out there and hires a Lindsay or Hinkie type GM, I think he deserves serious props because it means that he’s stepping way out of his comfort zone, and that he’s basically owning up to the last 4-5 years as a result of poor-judgment on his part in keeping McHale around. Anything short of that, however, isn’t enough for this franchise. And that would suck big time.
by biggity2bit on May 1, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW:
Pekovic is playing:
http://atdhe.net/6676/watch-olympiacos-vs-panathinaikos
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by Stop-n-Pop on May 1, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the NBA..
….immediately needs to switch to the wrap-around electronic ad boards that are all over the place in the EL.
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by Stop-n-Pop on May 1, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+childress is playing too
Beater of the early Thabeet drum
by Wim (Belgium) on May 1, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also:
Wyn said it perfectly: You pay for SAS’s management structure. You pay lots for it and you throw everyone you have overboard to get it.
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by Stop-n-Pop on May 1, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A few updates in the comments...
From Z:
I think Riley relied pretty heavily on Pfund for personnel matters when Riley was coaching. I hear Pfund resigned last fall because Riley’s move back into the front office left him with less of a voice than he had before. The guy’s been in the league a long time, been a part of championship programs. His resume to me looks more accomplished than Lindsey’s. How can you be a mess and still win the title?
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Pfund’s name emerging in talk around the league at this late date leads me to believe he’s in the discussion, which at this point has to be a very short list. I’ve waiting for more than a week for Dennis Lindsey to be named, but here’s a second option. Sounding to me like one of the two.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Could it be
A negotiating leverage ploy?
Either way it sucks for us. Glen and his partners have lost plenty of money on the Wolves in recent seasons, all ultimately due to hiring shoddy management. Investing money in management might actually return you back to profitability. What’s the hold-up? Has Papa Glen already signed a bunch of staffers to “secret” contracts for the next few years, and that’s why he’s hesitating?
by biggity2bit on May 1, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's sinister...
To me, it’s also not a huge deal if he takes another few days to a week. If this were happening a month from now, then it would be a problem.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get it...
But they’re not competing with anyone for either of these guys because no other teams are looking to hire a GM/VP right now. They should have a coach and GM by the lottery, but that’s 2 1/2 weeks away.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true
I’m just impatient to get all this going. I’m so ready (and excited—potentially) for this organization to turn over a new leaf that I just get nervous that the longer it takes, the worse the results are going to be.
by biggity2bit on May 1, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's justifiable...
I’m thinking similarly. This new info at least indicates that they’re close. If there was no news from last week, I’d be more worried.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I smell some more “gm search” posts coming up (a). Still want Lindsey though. Just get the guy man! Do whatever
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by Wim (Belgium) on May 1, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's a question--
If it came down to Lindsey or Hinkie—who would you want, and why?
by biggity2bit on May 1, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just worried that they'd..
….draft a guy who has been out of it for a year and isn’t up to speed on the draft or available free agents.
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by Stop-n-Pop on May 1, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whoops..
…hire a guy.
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by Stop-n-Pop on May 1, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a legitimate concern...
that would probably affect how many of the current staff stay on. My guess is they wouldn’t be replacing all of the scouts or all the underlings no matter who is hired.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read:
Hoiberg. If not getting the Spurs’ infrastructure comes to pass because of a hold up on a current coach or front office personnel, it’s the wrong decision. I like Fred and all (a fellow Amesian and DFLer) but not that much.
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by Stop-n-Pop on May 1, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t know anything about Hinkie. But from what I’ve read in the gm search .. Lindsey seems like the best possible, don’t know how anyone could be better…
http://www.canishoopus.com/2008/12/31/702079/executive-search-dennis-li
It’s on the right on the bottom of the bar here.
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by Wim (Belgium) on May 1, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pfund has had an interesting history there...
The Heat had the Rice/Mourning trade, Kevin Willis for Tim Hardaway, Kurt Thomas for Jamal Mashburn, Mashburn and P.J. Brown for Eddie Jones and Anthony Mason, signed P.J. Brown, Juwan Howard (deal was nullified), Brian Grant, Dan Majerle, and Lamar Odom, and did the Shaq trade and the 4 team deal where they dealt Jones/D. Jones/Rasual Butler for ’Toine/Jason Williams/James Posey. The Heat also turned starters out of second-round talents like Voshon Lenard, Ike Austin, Bruce Bowen, Anthony Carter, Eddie House, Malik Allen, Mike James, Rasual Butler, Udonis Haslem, Rafer Alston, and Jason Kapono. They only picked in the lottery three times and ended up with Caron Butler (lucky because he slipped), Wade, and Beasley.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 1, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't get your hopes up
Seriously. It’s not our money being spent here. The idea that the same guy who gave McHale way too much time and power is all of the sudden going to go with a stat geek GM whom he doesn’t really know, who wants (and deserves) sweeping authority to clean out the front office, and who wants (and deserves) carte blanche to pay market rates for available free agents?
I’d love it to be true. But I don’t see any evidence that it will come to fruition.
by PoorDick on May 1, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pfund
1. The Draft Track Record looks pretty solid. Their also seems to be a pretty nice eye for evaluating role players.
2. He’s clearly someone Pat Riley and his 5 NBA Championships holds in high regard.
We shall see.
by Jose Cordoba on May 1, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Zgoda...
…has a quote that from what I have heard, sums it up very nicely:
Jerry Zgoda says:
May 1st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
That ESPN thing is what I’ve been hearing today as well. Thought it might come over the weekend. Basically heard it was over "control" issues and Lindsey doubted whether they’d be willing, in essence, to put their money with their mouth is in terms of building a winning organization.
…it remains to be seen what control means, but if it has to do with Hoiberg, McHale, or coaching decisions, then this is another slap in the face to fans.
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by Stop-n-Pop on May 1, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's my response (posted as "Patrick" over there)
How much evidence does Taylor need that relinquishing control to a guy like Lindsey is what needs to be done? Do we have to go 0-82 and have attendance figures of 0? Because that’s where we’re headed. This should be truly disturbing to fans who believed that real change might come this off-season. Let’s prepare for a protracted period of mediocrity. Oh well, at least Portland and OKC are on League Pass every night.
by Shogun on May 1, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
This off-season is the last stand for this franchise. If this was because they just had to keep around some part of the blueprint, existing front office, or the status quo, OKC, here I come. I want to know everything about why Lindsey dropped his name. If he was their #1 target, why did he walk away? That’s the biggest question that needs to be answered and Taylor better have a good answer.
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by Stop-n-Pop on May 1, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
Hiring Lindsey (or someone with a similar philosophy and pedigree) would’ve been a nice signal to fans and symbolic gesture that things were going to change at 600 First Avenue. As it is, there’s little evidence of anything more than a disorganized, desperate group without much of a blueprint at all.
by Shogun on May 1, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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