Draft Bits: 5/11/09
by wyn on May 11, 2009 9:50 AM CDT
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PrintOf course the draft talk has only barely begun to heat up, and speculation at this point doesn't have a lot of value beyond media and fan chatter. But a couple items caught my eye this morning:
- The Knicks are believed to have given Stephen Curry a promise that he won't fall past them at #8. (NBADraft.net) That would mean taking him at #5 or trading down with Memphis or Golden State to beat New York to the punch if Minny wanted him. After hearing that his growth plates haven't closed, Curry's size concerns don't seem as big (har-har) to me.
- The Wolves have reportedly inquired with LSU guard Marcus Thornton's agent whether he'd be interested in a workout, as have 22 other teams. (NOLA.com)
UPDATE: And just like that, water on the Stephen Curry/Knicks fire.
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Draft promises already?
Oh well. Gotta do something when you’re part of the league’s mundane tier, outside of envy at the good teams.
Thank God!
Please let the Knicks have him! Just say NO to Curry! Especially NOT in the Top 5. Woohoo! Great news!
RUBIO OR BUST!
Let's hope
some other teams picks Thorton before 18(probably too much to hope for) or 28. He’s player 13 of the third tier on the Hoopus board. It’d be better to get Calathes or Sam Young at 28.
by oblivionspocket on May 11, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions
It might be early, but I can see why they like him so much. He’d be a perfect fit in D’antoni’s system. I can see him coming in and throwing up 18-20ppg no problem on that team. He’s the perfect example of the type of player who gets panned because of issues that can be overcome with an abundance of skill and smarts, both of which he has.
I can definitely see him making some teams that gambled on in favor of projects look foolish a few years down the road. In fact, I can already see what it will be like among fans of whoever passes on Curry for whichever of the project players doesn’t pan out. When Curry’s putting up 22/8 on ridiculous %‘s like 48/40/90 the forums will be rife with posts lamenting the drafting of guy who couldn’t dribble (DeRozan)/shoot (Jennings/Evans)/“insert skill Curry has here.” Sure, he may never defend anyone, but neither did Nash :) Not necessarily making a case for Curry with our pick (I’m not a scout, and I do like the other guys as well), but I just can’t shake this feeling that he’s going to be very good.
It's true what Xand says
Curry can be an efficient 20ppg scorer for D’antoni while he would be a mediocre at best player on almost every other team in the league.
if he's allowed to be on the ball...
…he’ll tear it up. he’ll be a pick and roll monster.
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We'll see...
What would really be awesome is if the Knicks won the top pick in the lottery and then used it on Curry, as promised! HAHAHAHAHA! Imagine the fan riots!
by College Wolf on May 11, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Tear it up indeed...
He has crazy range, is smart, has handle, and seems to be quick enough to play point in this league. WAY rather have him or Lawson over Rubio.
by SuperVillian on May 12, 2009 12:08 AM CDT reply actions
i want Curry bad mayn
mo den blake i dont buy de hwole blake griffin thang, he not DAT thowed
MAYN HOL UP!
I love Curry's shooting ability...
but I’m terrified of his defense. For that reason, I shy away from him. This team needs to improve on the defensive side of the ball more than the offensive side. That’s why I vote DeRozan here, but Curry would still be my second choice given the circumstances above.
Couple Points
1. The Wolves were 24th in Offensive Rating while at the same time 25th in Defensive Rating. It’s not like they were so strong on Offense that they can just disregard it. At the same time- their are internal ways the Defense can be improved (Brewer, Re-Sign Shelden). Even having Al back should help the D a bit just on the boards as opposed to a Gomes/Love Front-Line.
2. Rev. makes a good point in that Derozan’s Defensive Insticts probably aren’t quite good enough at this time to be counted on a lot of immediate improvement in this area. He certainly is a good enough athlete with a good enough motor to make an impact in this area down the line. Although being a Freakish Athlete doesn’t equate to being a Defensive stopper (Gerald Green, Rodney Carney).
Dude.
Are you advocating spending $4.3 mill/year on Shelden Williams, making him the fourth-highest player on the team? If so, I may have to re-consider blindly following along in agreement with every one of your posts.
Another reason why I despise HoopsHype's salary pages...
… actually they’re all the same reason: the data’s wrong. I might be able to find Wolves salary data somewhere… hmmm…. oh! here: http://www.canishoopus.com/pages/contract-info
And, FWIW, this specific bit of incorrect info is that Shelden’s team option was not picked up by Sacramento, before being traded to Minny. He’s a free agent this summer.
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I need to find a way to self-promote without being a dick...
… not sure if it’s possible.
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Yeah, right
It’s YOUR fault that I LEFT THIS SITE to go look for less-reliable information.
I’ll try to do better next time.
My Bad
I knew that also as far as Shelden’s contract- I just blanked. I think if you could get Shelden for 2-3 years at half the amount- it’s worth considering. A 4-5 that can provide solid defense and rebounding off the bench that’s still fairly young is worth that. I’m also thinking their might not be a huge market for him.
Wyn- Keep up the Good Work.
by Jose Cordoba on May 12, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that Shelden would be a good pick-up on the cheap
Not sure he’d cost as much as Telfair or Smith did, but that ballpark and contract length make sense to me.
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and he's the best interior defender on the team
if they can get him on a cheapo smith contract (which I still don’t understand for the rhino) then they should do it.
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Craig smith flat-out does not fit. With Big baby doing so well maybe we can find a trade partner? Kid has skill but just does not fit.
Good point on
Davis. I have a suspicion that Smith’s numbers and contract will either fool some GM into lusting after him (when combined with, say, Mike Miller), or be enough that the GM believes he can look good to the fans for “stealilng” Smith from the Wolves.
Good points.
You’re right. Defense is about effort, but you need the athletic ability too, and I agree that it wouldn’t hurt to have some outside shooting.
Shelden
I would never advocate picking up the option. I would decline it then hope to resign him at a cheaper rate like Bassy last year. For 2 years at a reasonable rate- he would be a nice option as a defensive big off the bench.
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