Lotto Open Thread: Zombie Bear Edition
by Stop-n-Pop on May 19, 2009 7:00 PM CDT
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Mr. Hoiberg couldn't bring home the number one spot with a teddy bear from a sick kid, so this time around we're going all-out zombie in hopes that our favorite ball team can, for once, land the passion bucket filled #1 pick in the NBA Draft.
Pray, hope, meditate, light something on fire, eat a bunch of chocolate, feast on the flesh of the living...do whatever you feel is necessary to help the Wolves land the top spot.
Remember, karma is on the wrong side of Our Beloved Puppies Zombies and whatever you do must be done with that basic fact in mind. I myself will attempt to appease Lady Karma by preparing a tasty dish; perhaps some Spanish tapas or Oklahoma barbeque.
Whatever you do, think happy thoughts and put as much stock into this event as you can muster. We want the outcome to be as emotionally constructive/devastating as possible. Remember the advice of the great Axl Rose: If it's not worth over-doing, it's not worth doing. All in plus the baby.
Until later.
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I Think this is our year to either win the Lottery or get #2
I just have that Feeling in my Gut….Please atleast 2 or 3…I Want Rubio or Thabeet!
i'm checking in and out...
….between lawn work.
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Lottery Time!!!!!!!
Come on K Love…I’m Wearing your Jersey right now for a reason!…Bring us Back that #1 Pick!!!!!!
I forgot how much I don't like Jay Bilas...
….has he said “upside”, “length”, or does he have a new word this year?
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chad ford is saying on the radio...
….that if they get the #1 pick he thinks love gets moved. kind of weird….he asked love about it and he said it was kind of weird being there. btw…all three big men (big al, love, and griffin) have the same agent.
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whoops..
…forgot to fuck the clips
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clippers, okc and memphis in top 3
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the coin flip cost them again
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yep
…it’s payback for the highway robbery
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If Thunder are #1...
the fix is truly in!!!
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mayn.....hol up.
anotha year anotha blown lottery mayn. 20 years an runnin mayn. ima git THOWED now off dis bud light an dat patronnn!
MAYN HOL UP!
how many times have the clips been here...
…and they still screw it up…they should be permanently banned from the lotto.
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GET CHRIS WALLACE ON THE PHONE NOW!!!!
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STALK HIM....he's already taken 2 guards in the last 2 drafts.
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Yeah
too bad the Wolves don’t have anything they would want.
by Eric in Madison on May 19, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
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the header will be changed quickly
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Gotta feel for Washington and Sactown though.
Thinking Griffin or Rubio and getting Jordan HIll or Thabeet. Ouch. At least we are still in the same cloud of players at 4-8.
sactown takes it the hardest...
…worse than the wolves.
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"Great day for clipper fans"
is the quote. good lord.
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Well now it's a Test for the Front office...
Package those 3 first rounders we have to get Rubio or Thabeet…If not…Well Looks like we are looking at DeMar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings or Stephen Curry @ #6… If thats the Case better take BJ Mullens @ # 18..
curry or derozan
still a good thing…not optimal, but still good. plus, the rubio slot is with a team with a ridiculous gm and both the clips and griz have numerous trade opportunities because griffin doesn’t really fit at la and rubio doesn’t really fit with the griz.
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it's really not as bad as i thought it first was...
….okc getting in the top 2 would have been bad.
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Didn't one of you guys
write something about us being the only team without someone in the room when they did the actual random generation?
yeah...
…the clips didn’t have a rep either.
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Blake Griffin is Lying his ass off right now
Deep Down he’s saying…Do i really have to go play for that Hell Hole Shitty ass Clippers Team?….Really? All my spotlight in that town is going to be taken away by Kobe Bryant..Because i have to play for the Fucking Clippers..God Damnit.
First Mock
1. Lac- Griffin
2. Memp- Rubio (Conley trade possibility)
3. OKC- Thabeet (I’m just guessing he fits better than Harden)
4. Sac- Evans (They really want a PG)
5. Was- Harden
6. MN- Derozan
don't forget...
….that griffin opens up kaman, camby, or jordan. hell, baron davis could be on the block with rubio. the griz is who the wolves should target.
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Lots of opportunity for Trades
Both the Grizzlies and Thunder are set at point guard, could be a good chance to trade up and grab Rubio
it will take a lot more than that....
….my guess is that the wolves couldn’t do it without love.
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yep
I wondered about that….not sure I can envision a deal that works, but it would have to include Love.
by Eric in Madison on May 19, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL !!!
28 has negative value. We would have to reassume Marko’s and Buckner for any sort of deal.
by Jose Cordoba on May 19, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
is Conley worth the number 6 pick?
I don’t think so- 18 and Filler- Yes
portland is probably already on the phone with wallace
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Yup. Outlaw, Blake/Sergio, cash, any picks, maybe Bayless for Rubio or Conley
My worst fear is this though: Dunleavy and Wallace are horrible GMs
They could screw that up in any number of ways.
Trading with each other so Griffin goes to Memphis (they need a PF) and Rubio to the Clippers
Then trading Bdizzle to the Warriors for Maggette (was already rumored)
Then OKC takes Thabeet
4 teams improve. We are screwed.
Conley would be enough
My fear as said is just that they trade with each other because Clippers have no real need for Z-Bo and Camby if they take Griffin, but Memphis could use Griffin or one of those guys since they have 0 depth on that position.
I would ask as someone who doesn't watch the Blazers as Close
Do you really need a traditional PG with Roy as ball-dominant? Doesn’t a Shooter like Bayless make sense in this role long-term?
by Jose Cordoba on May 19, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Long-term yes, short term he isn't ready and the question if he really can lead he team and not just score is unanswered
A guy like Andre Miller or Kirk Hinrich could work as a stop-gap until then, able to lead the team in the next three years or so. But a once and for all solution with a young PG would also work very well. We will see what they want to do. Maybe they just target DeJuan Blair as the backup PF, but this order opens options unless Wallace and Dunleavy do something really smart/really dumb.
between dunleavy and wallace....
….you figure something has to give.
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Don't forget
that the Wolves are marching dangerously close to Glen looking around and saying, "Hmm. . . I need a temporary GM . . . who has some experience . . . and is already on the payroll . . . "
i know...
….if they moved up to the third pick it would have been even more amazing….the top three picks controlled by the 3 worst gms in the nba.
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So glad OKC didn't win...
Should’ve rigged it for Memphis when the top three came up – best situation of a Bulls-esque rise (will all positions filled with Griffin).
okc in the top 2 would have been terrible...
…they would be loaded in 2-3 years.
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as if they're already not shaping up that way
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I don't think they are shaping up well
Westbrook played a lot of minutes, and can play defense, but he shot poorly while shooting too much.
Jeff Green is a small forward who shouldn’t be playing the 4.
Until they fix PF and C, Krstic is nice, but not an answer, they will be lost.
I like our chances in 2 years bringing Al and Love against Kristic and Jeff Green.
by Jose Cordoba on May 19, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like it will be Al and Love against Thabeet and Green
But with Blair’s success against Thabeet by using his body and banging him, Thabeet has extremely long legs and a high sense of gravity making it easier to be pushed around. Al and Love I think will attack him with physyicality and get blocked on occasion but draw fouls and get open looks as Thabeet is knocked off balance.
#6
Sure as hell not what I wanted, but not as bad as we think. It’s probable that Curry and DeRozen will be there at #6. Plus, there’s always the unintentional comedian known as Chris Wallace and the train wreck Clippers ahead of us – I can smell the wrong decisions from here! I also think there’s gonna be some trades in the works – too many of the teams in the lotto were banking on the #1 or #2. The teams that didn’t will now be looking to move players. Hopefully, we get a GM in place and working the phones in a hurry!
If only we knew...
who would be having those conversations? It’s really irresponsible of Glem to not have this GM shit sorted by now. The second after the lottery, the work begins. It is is totally incompetent to not have a guy in place by now!!!
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This is one year where I really was indifferent as to whether they moved up or not. I would’ve preferred to, but it’s not a gut punch. Hell, there’s barely a consensus #2 player (and he can even opt out, should he decide he doesn’t want to play in Memphis). At #6, they should be comfortably in Curry/Derozan territory, or Ty Lawson (my preference). And hopefully they’re Thabeet-proof at #6.
OTOH, the last time the Wolves had the #6 pick is the draft we’ve been comparing this one to all along: the infamous 2006 draft.
I'm not sure Portland needs Rubio since Roy is so Ball-Dominant.
I the logic in drafting a guy like Jeryd Bayless to play at the 1 with Roy. If I’m Portland I go after Conley who’s shown more as a shooter/ with less value.
My Mock
1. Clips- Griffin.
2. Memphis- Thabeet…They do need the Size up front.
3. OKC- Jordan Hill
4. Sac- Rubio
5. Wizards – Harden
6. Wolves – Stephen Curry
18. Wolves- BJ Mullens
28 Wolves- DaJuan Summers.
not surprisingly...
DraftExpress and nbadraft.net are taking a long time to load. DraftExpress’ mock hasn’t been updated yet.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 19, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions
it can only go downhill..
…with a bad trade. one of those three will be available. that’s all they could have asked for at the start of the night. the big worry would be to drop back.
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Thunder fans
seem to be assuming that they will take Thabeet #3. Makes some sense for them.
Griffin
Rubio
Thabeet
Hill(?)
Harden
by Eric in Madison on May 19, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
Considering their interest in Chandler...
that makes a lot of sense.
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me too..
….he doesn’t make it past the knicks and i still think portland goes for him if they can’t trade with memphis.
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Portland Doesn't Need Lawson..They Have Bayless. Fernandez..Rodriguez to play the PG
Not to Mention Roy plays the SG and can have one of those guys spell him
i'll stick with it...
…he’s perfect for their system and he’s better than any point on their roster.
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Seriously. I don’t think it’s out of bounds to take him at #6. Performance-wise, the guy’s simply impeccable. And as for his size, there’s plenty of 6 foot PGs out there: CP3, Jameer Nelson, TJ Ford, Aaron Brooks, Raymond Felton…
About the only statistical knock on Lawson is his pedestrian usage rate. And even there, since he’s not likely to be asked to be option 1A at the next level, what’s the harm?
Lawson in 2009: He’s like Bassy, but he can shoot and finish!
But seriously. 18th? No way. I think DraftExpress finally has him in their top 10 last I checked.
1. Clips – Griffin
2. Grizz – Rubio (Conley is traded)
3. Thunder – Harden
4. Kings – DeRozan
5. Wizards – Thabeet
6. Wolves – damnit, they can’t take Jordan Hill!
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 19, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
I do think that’s how the top 5 will end up and the Wolves will have to figure out whether to trade down or take Curry or Evans.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 19, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The wild card is
What the heck does Sacramento do at #4 if
1. Griffin
2. Rubio
3. Thabeet
They need PG and SF and those positions, don’t know where the value will be for them. Tough to know what the Wolves will do with that wildcard.
I don’t think they’d take Thabeet because of Spencer Hawes.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
they got screwed
i think that’s derozan’s best shot at going really high.
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Question
. Would Sac-Town or Washingston take Curry? Flip has always valued PG’s that can shoot. Sac-Town’s biggest need by far is PG (They thought Bobby Brown was thier best one)
I'd take Eric Maynor...
over Evans. We don’t need a PG who can’t shoot. Last time I checked, we’ve already got one (sorry, Bassy!).
wizards
i think there was talk earlier of them selling the pick do you think now that they dropped this low they could still sell it?
If it doesn’t involve us giving up ours that would be great. Two out of the Harden, Curry, DeRozan pool would be great.
Beater of the early Thabeet drum ... but not so much of the late one
by Wim (Belgium) on May 20, 2009 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions
SacTown @#4
If Thabeet. Rubio and Griffin are the top 3 which they should be…I think Sacramento goes with DeRozan or Harden @ #4…Washington will take Jordan Hill @ #5 because they need a big man too..Leaving the Wolves with Curry, the Loser of the DeRozan/Harden Pick or Jennings.
This would be suicide...
Harden is 6’ 4"…6’ 5" max… And no way is he athletic enough to guard Kobe 5 times a year.
My Harden love is well known here, but he needs the right situation. He is a facilitator, and a complementary player. The Wiz….with Arenas and Flip…would be perfect for him.
Us or the Kings…not so much.
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Tyreke Evans is
a Shooting Guard.
Chad Ford calls him Jerry Stackhouse reborn. I tend to agree. He’ll be a solid defensive two that has good size, can drive to the hoop and make an acrobatic finish or a decent pass, but has an average outside shot.
If Brewer can develop a shot, that’s a heckuva a 2/3 defensive presence with Brewer and Evans with Brewer as a shooter and Evans as a slasher.
Brewer as a shooter?
That’s more pie in the sky than all this Rubio talk. I like the idea of taking Curry because if he can hold his own at the point we could start Brewer at the 2 without relying on him to take too many outside shots. Plus this bumps Foye to 6th man where he probably fits best right now.
by SuperVillian on May 19, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
prepare yourself while you can..
….you know curry will happen ;) this is just like love last year. you know it’s coming.
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I know.
You are sooooo right.
egads :-(
by College Wolf on May 20, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
HoopsHype's mock...
Jennings/Maynor/Thornton. That can’t be up to date.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions
that’s who they have the Wolves taking
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Sacramento is in a terrible spot and really got hosed
I have a hard time envisioning who they would pick at 4—maybe DeRozan if he impresses? ANd they really can’t trade the pick—who would want it?
by Eric in Madison on May 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions
I think a Team Like the Wolves Would take it
If they are really Sold on a guy like DeMar DeRozan and they think Washington washington will take him @5
OK, but what would you give if you are the Wolves?
by Eric in Madison on May 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I would give them #18 + Miller in return for a Nocioni + #4
Taking on Nocioni’s contract would be questionable they are desperately cutting costs.
Gotta believe that our #18 is gonna be worth something...
packaged with Miller, Smith, Gomes, Foye or a combination of players. Come on, PG! Houston’s out of the playoffs and Sam Hinkie is waitin by the phone!
Glen's going this alone:
Glen Screw it! I’ll save some money and do it myself. Freddy! Get me George Mikan’s agent. And what’s the status of Mark Olberding’s contract?
Draft express
now has us getting Harden at 6 (Jennings at 4 to Sac), Jrue Holliday at 18. I could actually live with that result.
by Eric in Madison on May 19, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
Very Interesting
Jennings is the hardest prospect to evaluate. Euro League, they made him play the 2 at times, limited minutes. but he does have the most potential after Rubio at the point.
2 more combo guards...
when we already have Foye. No way does this happen..at least it better not.
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Did somebody change the position of Shooting Guard to Combo Guard
Is Brandon Roy a combo guard? Is Kobe Bryant a combo Guard? What is Dwayne Wade?
A combo guard...
is someone that is incapable of running the point full-time, or being a dominant scorer/shooter full time. They are big for the PG position, and small for the SG position.
This is the definition of Foye, Harden, and Holiday.
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Not really
Harden is an off guard. Holliday is a point guard really, though he had to play off the ball with Collison there.
by Eric in Madison on May 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
To Me
Combo Guard was for a player that didn’t have the length or strength to be a prototypical 2 guard, but not enough passing skills to handle the ball full time. That to me is Foye.
Harden is 6-4 but with a huge wingspan and a lot more strength and girth. I think he is a clear 2 guard.
And Foye really isn't a Combo guard
Yeah He can play the Point But he’s god awful At it..He’s Better Of in his Natural 2 guard spot.
Why Can't the NBA Just do what MLB, NHL, NFL and all other sports leagues that have drafts do
Just go by Worst Records and Coin Flips?
I think they can’t because the impact of a single stud player in basketball is so huge that the tanking would be out of control whenever there was a Lebron waiting in the wings. It’s not a perfect system, but it’s not terrible.
I’m kind of with Bill Simmons on this, though: Have ALL the lotto teams have an equal shot. You’d eliminate the tank incentive, and I don’t mind when a sort-of crappy team lands an impact player and catapults towards a promising future (i.e., the Bulls and Derrick Rose). Otherwise, if you’re a mediocre 30-35 win team—too good for a realistic shot at the big draft prize but not good enough to contend—you’re just stuck in neutral.
They could rank the draft
by whichever team has the most wins, after that team was officially eliminated from the playoffs. The bad teams would get lots of opportunities to accumulate wins (if they tried), while the better teams would have an incentive to gun for the 8th seed for awhile, and then play up to potential for the rest of the season.
How about this:
The first pick is always given to the worst team in the league. The 2nd pick is an open lotto. The third pick is done on a 30 year alphabetical rotation. If the same team happens to fill one or more slots, they take the highest one. The rest of the draft is slotted by position.
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Just got back from Target Center...
they had a party for season ticket holders who had perfect attendance. Anyway, Hoiberg spoke and took a lot of good questions about the roster and draft. I tried my best to read between the lines, and here’s what I gathered…
First (and most importantly) he emphasized that Taylor has offered GM candidates full control for personnel and coaching staff decisions. He wanted fans (and specifically, the blogosphere) to know that Taylor isn’t insisting anything related to he or McHale. How much truth there is to that, I haven’t any idea.
With respect to the roster, he made clear that he knows they are small and unathletic. Everything that he said involved getting a shotblocker and getting a guy to break down the defense. The two names that he mentioned, without solicitation from a fan question, were Thabeet and DeRozan. When a fan specifically asked about Curry, he raved about how great of a shooter he was and how tough his dad (Curry’s dad) was to guard. However, everything Fred talked about was athleticism and the need for a perimeter slasher. Given his ties to Tim Floyd, I think that could easily mean DeRozan (if he falls to 6).
He said it’s a very weak draft for centers and mentioned that, outside of Thabeet, Mullens is really the only guy. He talked about Mullens upside. I got the feeling that Fred probably understood the need for that type of a player, since he kept repeating the point that we need a “rim protector.” When asked what happens to Love, he talked about a 3-big rotation, since they can’t play 48 minutes each.
Fred spent some time talking about Pekovic. He said he’s the best center in Europe and we expect him no later than 2010.
Also, he mentioned that Rubio has a $7 Million buyout, this year and that it’s far from certain that he’ll be in the NBA, next year. This contradicts Chad Ford’s reports, but Fred sounded pretty serious about this. Given that Memphis has the 2-spot, it might be a real issue heading forward to the draft.
Anyway, it was a pretty good event. It was fun to hear Hoiberg talk somewhat candidly and extensively about this coming off-season.
Lovely.
Thanks for the inside scoop.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on May 19, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the update
Not sure if I’d agree with Hoiberg’s assessment of Derozan as a guy who can break down the defense, though. He has some promise, but he hasn’t exactly been a slasher in the half court at USC.
Great info...thanks
I agree we could use a slasher, but DeRozan is not the answer to that question…especially at #6 He is a great defender and rebounder as a swingman, but his offensive game is very immature. His mid-range jump shot came a long way in the 2nd half of the season, but he showed almost no skills in putting the ball on the floor and getting to the basket.
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awesome...
…thanks. i’m going to bump that into a fanshot.
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DraftExpress has the Wolves taking Harden, who’s been an infinitely better slasher than Derozan.
If Harden slips to the Wolves because of an unorthodox style and lack of elite athleticism, then this IS a repeat of 2006. (Of course, I guess the Wolves would then be fated to trade Harden for Jeff Teague and $1 million bucks.)
Ha. Please god, no. I know you’re kidding, but that’s just too similar.
Harden would be great, though. Love his game.
I'm a big Harden fan...
… and I’d be overjoyed if he fell to us at six. I don’t see it happening though. Harden/Holiday is my ideal 6/18 duo. Jennings/Mullens would be my second choice. I’m not as high on DeRozen or Curry as most people here.
Harden to 11
Sporting Nerws today has him going @ 11. They have the wolves taking Curry.
Sometimes the obvious is hidden.
by frankenhoops on May 20, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
My point being...
Another 6’ 4" guy that doesn’t do anything exceptionally well would be madness. No more of that shit please. Is Stephen Curry a bit of a crapshoot? Sure, but at #6 I’ll take a chance at greatness rather than cover my ass with potential mediocrity. Think about how rare and dominant Curry’s specific skills are:
Good ball-handler – can probably run the point better than anyone we have right now
Great spot up shooter – Since Mike Miller won’t shoot, who is our perimeter threat? I rest my case. Our pathetic outside shooting immediately gets better
Great pick and roll guy – Steph running the pick and roll with Al and Kevin Me Badd
Our immediate need is a 1 and a 5. Between Foye, Miller, Gomes, Brewer, Smith, Love, and Big Al we have the 2-4 positions covered. We need an engine, ladies and gentleman…
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My gut reaction
is that at 6 Curry’s gonna be the man. He’s a world class, world class shooter. Lebron loves him. He is not afraid to shoot and he shoots a high percentage, two attributes that are not to be found together in any one current Wolves player.
by princelyfrank on May 19, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It really depends on how fixated they become about particular weaknesses
If they are really super concerned about a penetrator like Fred talked about, then it won’t be Curry (could be Evans, or the guy I think will rise in the coming weeks—Flynn). But of course they have a lot of weaknesses, including shooting as you point out.
I doubt they take Curry, though.
by Eric in Madison on May 19, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I think your logic is spot on...
And you have our team pegged. Unfortunately, I feel no NBA team will be susceptible to slashers until you prove you can beat them over the top first, and we have NO ONE (since MIller won’t shoot) that does that.
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BTW:
I can’t get over the fact that Mike Dunleavy and Chris Wallace control the top 2 picks in the draft.
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Bill Simmons two favorite guys...
We need to hire him right now as the GM. If anyone could abuse them even worse, it would be the Sports Guy. He could get #1 and #2 for Gomes, draft picks, and a few expirings.
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Makes you want to pueke don't it?
Those two surely know how to run a franchise…INTO THE GROUND!!!!!!!!..and Worse than McHale or Taylor Ever could.
Chad Ford wants to have heard that the Grizzlies are really high on Thabeet
An NBA source told me today that Memphis was the one team that might take Thabeet instead of Griffin if it were to get the No. 1 pick
Hellooooo, you have Marc Gasol on your team. And so it starts…
it's going to be crazy
plus, with rubio’s buyout you never know how memphis will go
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That would make it official for Wallace
He’s on a mission to destroy the Grizzlies come hell or high water. Thabeet is officially going to be the biggest bust at center since Kwame.
by nikolokolus on May 19, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Not only that...
But Ford has the Kings taking Holiday at 4.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 19, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s …. I’m not believing anything writtin by Ford as of now … Holiday at 4; the nerve.
Beater of the early Thabeet drum ... but not so much of the late one
by Wim (Belgium) on May 20, 2009 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Just remember...
you would’ve said the same about Westbrook, last year. People were kind of shocked when he went 4, on draft night, let alone right after the lottery.
true, I did say the same about him.
Though I haven’t seen Westbrook play, not in the NCAA not in the NBA.
Holiday I have seen and I was utterly utterly unimpressed.
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by Wim (Belgium) on May 20, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I stand corrected...
Ford has him at Milwaukee with #10. He said the Kings would consider it.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 20, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Bummer for Griffin...
That sucks for him that he’s gotta go play with Zach Randolph. If he, Gordon, and Jordan can stay away from those influences and keep improving, the Clips have a nice young core. Just don’t bet on it.
I also don’t like Al Thornton with that group. I think he’s a bad team player and they won’t want him disrupting what could be some good team chemistry.
don't worry..
…dunleavy will draft tyler hansborough.
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by the way
that was really good news for the Wolves when they announced OKC and then Memphis, before LAC. The last thing we needed was Mayo-Gay or Westbrook-Durant to add Griffin…
yep..
….griffin would have rounded out both of those teams’ young cores.
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I wanna know...
Why in the Blue Fuck doesn’t the NBA Pull the Lottery Balls LIVE ON TELEVISION and Not Behind Closed doors?
Now that I've had a chance to reflect...
This year’s draft could be the most exciting ever. We have two confirmed dumbasses at the top of the draft. We have a bunch of teams where the needs don’t exactly fit the current draft projections. I see a lot of room for movement…
Now if our “Scarecrow” organization could only find a brain to be the GM…
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agreed...
….the dumbass factor at the top of the draft can’t possibly be overlooked….neither can the wizards in no-man’s land and the knicks trying to come down. it will be a free for all. there will be teams that like specific players and that’s it and they will move what they can to be in a spot to draft them while others will think there is nothing at the spot they are in.
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Few More Thoughts
1. I would love a Front-Court of Thabeet and the Water Buffalo- it seems like a very bizzare pairing.
2. If Rubio goes to Memphis- fine- he can make spectacular passes so Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo can miss 19 foot jumpers.
3. How did the Clippers get that mess of a roster? Blake Griffin doesn’t worry me at all going there.
4. I would lean Curry over Derozan- although it doesn’t share like the Wolves according to Andy G. share my sentiments.
One last thing...
Does anyone know how statistically incredible it is that we have NEVER moved up in the draft? I know from a purely random standpoint, it’s not that weird each year. But achieving the same result for 20+ consecutive years is amazing. Especially considering that we draft in the TOP 10 almost every year, where the chances are about equal to move up, stay the same, or move down.
It’s like flipping a coin and coming up heads 20 times in a row…
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It is incredible...
I don’t know how different things would be, but there would’ve been at least some improvement in the team’s fortunes. Just thinking about how much mileage the team got out of getting one superstar makes me think some things would’ve been different. Statistically, these things will turn, like the heads example: usually, that means a run of tails is coming in the near future.
by pagingstanleyroberts on May 19, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
if you look at it...
…in aggregate, it’s something of a shocker, but if you look at each individual year by itself, not so much. it’s still against the odds to win the thing each year.
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