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University of Florida standout point guard Nick Calathes is going pro. But not to the NBA. Calathes, the state's two-time "Mr. Basketball" from Lake Howell , agreed to terms Friday to play for powerful Panathinaikos , the reigning Euroleague Basketball champion club based in Greece, according to sources close to the former Gators playmaker.

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Dang. I considered Calathes a real attractive option at the Heat pick.

by jianfu on May 23, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Man; how many more of our potential picks are going to pull out.
We got lots of assets but no-one to pick … ok I’m exagerrating but you get the picture.

Beater of the early Thabeet drum ... but not so much of the late one

by Wim (Belgium) on May 24, 2009 1:57 AM CDT reply actions  

???

Is he just getting the impression no one is interested in the US and time is ticking on getting a Euro contract?

by Auswolf on May 24, 2009 6:06 AM CDT reply actions  

He and his agent figured he can make more in Greece even as a bench player

He has dual citizenship US-Greece, too.

The deal, sources said, will pay Calathes around $1.1 million per year, in addition to providing him with a home, car and tax credits, making for a total package commensurate to what the NBA rookie salary scale provides a late-lottery selection

by Norsktroll on May 24, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

His brother Pat also plays in Greece (although Pat was undrafted).

by jianfu on May 24, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perfect

We can draft his rights with one of our crappy second round picks, and just store him over there for a little while.

by Blakeley on May 24, 2009 6:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't think he'll be there

by the time we pick in the 2nd round. I agree on the premise though; he would be the PERFECT second rounder. Let him go develop his game in Europe with plenty of PT, then come over to the U.S. in a year or two ready to contribute right away. I’m still not against taking him with our Boston pick if he’s available, assuming his whole goal is to play in Greece for a year then come over to the NBA on a rookie first round contract. In fact, that would help meter the influx of young talent on our squad. We could use this season to digest #6 and #18 (or #5 and #6!), knowing we have young assets like Calathes and Pekovic developing overseas that can come over in subsequent years.

by Rascal Flatts on May 24, 2009 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Portland and their approximately 87 2nd-round picks would seem to make a lot of sense.

I thought Calathes would’ve been a good compliment if they decided to go the Tyreke Evans/Demar DeRozan route with their first pick: grab a tall, highly skilled guard to pair with the raw, athletic marvel. Taking him with the Boston pick is still an intriguing idea. No idea what they’ll do, though, obviously.

I just hope guys stop pulling out. Given how thin and uncertain the draft is, I anticipated more guys would opt to go in.

by jianfu on May 24, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why is it

That so many players are opting out of this draft? Is there that much of a pay difference between being a lottery pick and being a late first rounder?

It used to be that everyone and his brother wanted to be in the draft, and that’s why they eventually (among other things) changed the rules to having to stay in college for a year. Now it seems as though all those college players are staying in school, trying to become a top three pick instead of just getting drafted. I suppose in the long run in benefits the NBA, but in don’t they realize that if they all stay in school (can’t believe I just said that like it was a bad thing) that the competition between them will only get fiercer?

"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."

by biggity2bit on May 24, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why players can't see that this draft gives them good chances to go high. But the rookie scale is having an influence on decisions

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9301

Say as a #15 pick Calathes would make more than on this reported contract in his first years (ca. $1.4, 1.5, 1.6 million). But if he would drop to #25 which would have been very possible he would make less ($900k, 960k, 1 million).

by Norsktroll on May 24, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a little unsure of the rules here

does a team that drafts him retain his rights like they would a European player a la Pekovic? I thought there was a different rule for U.S. college players who are drafted but don’t sign.

by Eric in Madison on May 24, 2009 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

There are a series of questions here

1. Is he even eligible to be drafted this year if he signs with the Greek team prior to the NBA draft?
          a. If not, when would he be eligible to be drafted?
          b. If he is eligible to be drafted, how long would his NBA team hold his rights?

The rule with European players (as I understand it) is that they are eligible when either a) they declare themselves eligible, or b) at a certain age they are automatically eligible. After which the team that drafts them controls their draft rights in perpetuity, or until they trade those rights, but the rights don’t expire as far as I know.

I’m not sure the same thing is true of U.S. players.

Here’s another, related question. For U.S. players who are eligible, but don’t get drafted, they are free agents and can sign with anyone for as much as they can get. Would the same thing be true of Calethes if nobody drafts him? I think that’s unlikey IF he’s eligible, but it might create an interesting situation down the road. The way he might go undrafted is IF the drafting team doesn’t retain his rights past one year, BUT he’s still eligible for the draft. I doubt both of those things are true, because it creates a loophole, but this is not a situation I would assume the NBA has thought about much.

by Eric in Madison on May 24, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, the team that drafts him keeps his rights

according to the Orlando Sentinel article:

NBA teams still may select Calathes in the June 25 draft and would retain his future rights.

by PoorDick on May 24, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I’ll assume that’s accurate. He’ll certainly get taken, then.

If they can get him with the 28th pick, it makes sense. Defer the pick and see what happens.

by Eric in Madison on May 24, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

He may still stay in the draft

from what the piece at RealGM says:

The deal also reportedly has a buyout option should Calathes remain in the upcoming NBA Draft and decide to join that team down the road.

by PoorDick on May 24, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Great decision by Calathes

he’s not good enough to play in the NBA

by roundhouse on May 24, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

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