Perhaps a cheap way to add a top pick...
by twolvesgm on Jun 12, 2009 7:12 PM CDT
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PrintFirst off, I had a friend show me this blog and I love posting possible trades for the Timberwolves so here's one I think would be worth considering:
Timberwolves trade Brian Cardinal and the 28th, 45th and 47th selections in the 2009 NBA Draft to the New York Knicks for Jared Jefferies, cash considerations and the 8th selection in the 2009 NBA Draft.
Why the Timberwolves do this trade: While Jefferies does have two years remaining on his contract, this trade is all about obtaining another piece of the rebuilding project. The extra year of Jefferies' contract is around $6.5 million but wouldn't completely hinder the Wolves opportunity to add a player in next year's free agent pool. The Knicks could add between $2-$3 million to the trade which is essentially a sale of a couple of mid-second round picks as well. The Wolves would do this trade with the hopes of drafting two of the following players: James Harden, Tyreke Evans, Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn or DeMar DeRozan. My dream choices for these picks would be James Harden at 6 and Stephen Curry at 8.
Why the Knicks do this trade: Two words: LeBron James. This trade is the final piece of the cap restructuring for the Knicks and clearing Jefferies' contract would allow for a LeBron, Chris Bosh and Steve Nash 2010 off-season. Is the cost high? Yes. However, it makes the dream so much closer of a free agent bonanza. It also allows the Knicks to add European players in the late first round and second round who could be over in time to team with LeBron.
So what do you think? Love this trade, hate this trade? Who do you think the Wolves should take if they got the 8th from the Knicks?
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I like the idea here !!!
My only concern is if we don’t know who we want at 6- do we really need another pick 2 spots later. I’m not opposed but pointing out this needs to be considered.
I also wonder since the Knicks barely have any money committed to 2010-2011 (Do they really need to clear Jeffries salary?). Although resigning Lee and Nate Robinson could make this more likely.
Do you suppose Jeffires could have on-court value for us?
Or is he straight-up dead money?
Jeffries
Can occassionally be an effective on-court defender because of his length but on the Offensive end of the court- he’s a track wreck. He’d be at the bottom of any rotation (9th-10th man) or sitting on the bench.
If only...
Harden and Curry… that would be awesome but I can’t see it happening. Even still, Sota should pursue this trade even for a Curry/Flynn Curry/Evans combo. I’m just not sure whether NY would do this trade because I think they would see Curry as part of the reason why LBJ would join them.
Nash > Curry...
If the Knicks were able to move Jefferies’ contract for an expiring one like Cardinal’s they would then be able to offer max money to two superstars and have enough to make a run at Steve Nash to run the team. That’s the lure of this deal…clearing out just enough cap space to really make a big free agent run for the Knicks. Or if they made this deal they could easily re-sign Nate Robinson to have him run the point for the long-term without really hurting their LeBron chances.
I don’t think Jefferies would be more than a deep bench guy, however I do think he’d probably be energized by being traded somewhere where he could play more. He was a pretty good role player for Washington but isn’t a fit for the run and gun style for the Knicks.
Also, I think any worries the Knicks would have about not getting Curry could probably be solved by getting a good guard prospect at #28. It seems to me a guy like Patrick Mills might be a pretty good fit.
I don't think the Knicks would consider this
unless the Wolves took Eddy Curry instead of Jeffries, and/or the 18th pick was involved. They also won’t do it unless they can’t use the 8th pick to get Curry somehow (via a trade).
As the Wolves…I don’t know. What are you actually going to get out of the 8th pick? Say you get the guy everyone wants—Curry, at 6. Who do you get at 8 that’s worth giving up your flexibility for? Demar Derozan? James Johnson?
I might do the deal you suggested with Jeffries, and I might even throw in the 18th pick, because it still leaves the Wolves with a lot of expiring salary to use. But I wouldn’t do it if it involves E. Curry.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 13, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions
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If this idea of mine came to fruition, I’d want James Harden and Stephen Curry which I believe would be the perfect young backcourt for this team. So the Timberwolves would have to weigh the cost benefits of adding a top young player through the draft as opposed to overpaying for one on the free agent market.
This type of deal really shows how terrified I am about the prospect of us signing a big contract free agent. I would much rather get a rookie with upside who has a very managable salary structure instead of spending a ton of money on say…Ben Gordon. I like Gordon, but he’s not the type of guy you should break the bank for. That’s another topic for another time.
As for the Knicks, based on espn’s trade machine, Eddy Curry’s contract is up after next season making him irrelevant for any trade with the Timberwolves. Unless that information is incorrect, I think Jefferies will be the target to move. If the Knicks are able to move Jefferies, they will have an almost perfect cap situation for the 2010 free agent bonanza. Simply put, I don’t think there’s going to be many teams at all that will be willing to take on Jefferies contract and be able to give up some picks in the late first and second round to help the Knicks stash European talent for a year or two.
I really doubt the Knicks would demand the 18th pick because of the money and cap space the Timberwolves would be taking on in 2010. For instance, the Suns traded Kurt Thomas and two first round picks to Seattle for cap space. It’s a valuable commodity and almost no one will be willing to do that type of deal this off-season.
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ESPN is mostly wrong. Curry has a player option for 2010-2011 for over $11 million. He isn’t going to turn that option down.
Yeah, I want Harden too, but he isn’t going to last to the 6th pick. It’s possible neither Curry nor Harden are there at 6. You aren’t winding up with that backcourt with the 6th and 8th picks.
As for the Suns…yeah, those weren’t top ten picks, though. Even in a rather weak draft, those have more value.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 13, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It is a good idea..
however I just don’t think the players we would want (Harden/Curry/Evans/?) would be on the board. In fact two of the three could be off the board.
Could well be a couple of Euros worth stashing with 45 and 47 also…..
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