Draft Blogging the 2nd Round
by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 25, 2009 9:32 PM CDT
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Seriously, you can't trade him after that picture. How on earth is DeJuan Blair still available?
- 9:32- Jeff Pendergraph is the 1st pick in the 2nd round and he is headed to Portland in a trade
- 9:37- Jermaine Taylor is off to DC. Not sure what they are doing there with all of the shooting guards but hey, who am I to complain when rooting for a team with 10 power forwards and 4 points.
- 9:39- Griz and Knicks work out a trade with Darko going to New York. New York is going to be sneaky good next year if Galinari is healthy.
- 9:40- Blazers take Dante Cunningham from 'Nova.
- 9:45- Lakers trade rights to Toney Douglas to the Knicks for a future 2nd round pick.
- 9:46- Sergio Llull to the Nuggs. Denver made out like bandits tonight. Denver is having the best draft of the night. They may have picked up 2 better point guards than the Wolves.
- 9:47- Pistons get DeJuan Summers. This pick has Wolves connections. The Pistons got the pick from the Wolves for Ronald Dupree.
- 9:50- Griz take Sam Young. David Kahn is doing a presser now. You can watch it here. They're keeping the picks. Few other interesting notes: Kahn said that OKC was on radio silence today. I will post a link to the archived conference as soon as it becomes available. "Destination not an issue" with Rubio.
- 9:51- Spurs have DeJuan Blair fall into their laps. Amazing. Sometimes winning requires luck. If the Spurs can sign Sheed, they're going to make a serious run.
- 9:54- Ty Lawson deal officially announced. John Brockman goes to the Blazers.
- 10:00- Jonas Jerebko to the Pistons. Chase Budinger still available. So is Calathes, Thrornton, and Paul Harris. There are still good players on the board. All three players were on our draft board.
- 10:01- Washington sends Jermaine Taylor to the Rockets for cash. Dork Elvis on the prowl.
- 10:02- Derrick Brown to the Cats. Chris Wallace on the tube explaining the Thabeet pick. Demare Carroll and Sam Young to round things out. "There's a buzz in town about the Griz," says Wallace.
- 10:03- DX reports that the Wolves have traded Ellington to the Nuggs.
- 10:10- Bucks take Jodie Meeks, Lakers take Patrick Beverly, Heat take Marcus Thronton, and Pistons take Chase Budinger. Denver also trades rights to Sergio Llull to Houston. Dork Elvis strikes again. Llull is going to be a player. Wolves on the clock.
- 10:18- Wolves kill the 45th pick with Nick Calathes. This is an amazing pick. Unbelievable pick. We have often referred to Calathes as the American Rubio. The Wolves could start both guys. The Wolves have now taken 4 point guards. I'm still working on confirming the Ellington rumors.
- 10:20- Cavs get Danny Green. Excellent pick. Wolves are back on the clock. Are there any more point guards to take? Nando de Colo? I'm really rooting for Paul Harris here.
- 10:28- Wolves take Henk Norel, Rubio's teammate from Spain.
- 10:39- Suns continue their habit of taking lesser brothers (see Lopez, Robin) with their selection of Taylor Griffin. Seth Curry will be a Sun in 3 years.
- 10:35- Goran Suton to the Jazz.
- 10:36- Jack McClinton to the Spurs. Hello corner threes!!!
- 10:40- Indy takes A.J. Price
- 10:42- Spurs get Nando de Colo. They are cleaning up in the 2nd round. Blair, McClinton, and De Colo. All of these guys were on our draft board. All of them are solid players.
- 10:44- RealGM says that Yahoo is reporting that the Wolves traded Calathes to the Mavs.
- 10:45- Robert Vaden to the Cats.
- 10:46- Patrick Mills off the board.
- 10:47- Dork Elvis strikes again. Gets Chase Budinger from the Pistons for future 1sts.
- 10:48- David Kahn (former point guard Jewish Community Center) talks to Stu about the picks. Rubio is "transformational", Flynn is "special". Both guys can be on the court at the same time. Jonny is a "scoring point" and Rubio is an "orchestra leader", an "unbelievable conductor". Kahn makes a joke about Dick Vitale being a prominent former NBA coach on the panel...instead of JVG. Kahn thinks this will make the coaching search go a bit better.
- 10:50- From Yahoo Sports: "Minnesota is expected to trade the rights of Florida's Pat Calathes to Dallas for future considerations, a league executive said."
- 10:51- It sounds like Ellington will stay in Minny. More to come as it becomes available.
- 10:52- Dallas takes Ahmad Nivins and the Suns take Emir Preldzic.
- 10:59- Lester Hudson to the Celts.
- 11:00- The Lakers have traded the draft rights to Patrick Beverley to the Heat for a future pick and cash.
- 11:01- Robert Vaden to the Thunder for cash. Lakers take Chinemelu Elonu.
- 11:06- Mr. Irrelevant is Robert Dozier. Winners: Mark Jackson says Clippers and Magic. JVG goes with Spurs (I agree). Bilas says the Wolves.
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Is trading him the complete problem?
Does he want to leave Spain for here? I understand he’ll make more here even with the buyout, but it doesn’t seem like he’s too excited to be a Wolf.
I think we'll just have to wait and see what happens
I don’t think we can read into any of what is being thrown around right now.
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fair enough
It probably is all blatant speculation anyhow
I agree.
I think things might change if Kahn gets face to face with Rubio. That man is rather gifted at the talking aspect of things.
Though I still do expect us to move Rubio before Flynn. :-/
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
They have to hold firm in my opinion
On Rubio. I wonder if he isn’t irritated that they took Flynn.
At any rate, you got the best guy, keep the best guy.
I am still completely flummoxed. I mean, it was right there for you . 2 of the 3 prizes, and they were right freaking there. and they blew it.
I can’t imagine what Kahn is thinking if he’s serious about them playing together. That is not going to work. It just isn’t. I think he just outsmarted himself. He thinks he has this vision for the backcourt that will work, and he’s confident in his intellect, so he’s sure it’s going to work. But he’s wrong. It’s not going to work.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions
We should package our 2 second round picks and move up
Getting Chase Budinger a legit small forward who can shoot well would be a steal and would make me feel a little better that we didnt get curry…. a little better….
I'm getting very worried that Kahn has not yet come to face the media
Frankly, I’ve convinced myself that they are trading Rubio in some nightmare deal that will result in another power forward or something.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions
Hahahahahaha.
Kahn won me over if only for his comments about destination not being an issue. He mentioned Oklahoma City, said “No offense to Oklahoma City but…” and then left it at that. I nearly died.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Just gotta have faith....
that Kahn isn’t a complete idiot.
You don’t trade Ricky Rubio when he falls in your lap at #5.
No clue why we still have Johnny Flynn—maybe we have a 2-guard trade in the mix after the BYC period ends, and the other team likes Flynn. Hard to say.
Wolves presser is here
http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/fans/draft_central_2009.html
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Can someone recap?
I can’t get the presser for some reason.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
A few things after a few minutes to think about it (and a few scotches)
It is impossible to state just how bad the Wolves’ back court was last year. As good as Foye was in January, he was just as awful the rest of the season. Shaddy was on his way to an epically bad year. Kevin Ollie and Bobby Brown were just as bad. Bassy is a nice backup. These guys are going to put up at least what was put up last season. The team immediately becomes more athletic and it has better ball handling. Remember all those times that Miller took the ball up court when Bassy was out of the game? Those days are over. This isn’t as bad as I thought at first. Of course, I’m 3 sheep dips into the action ;)
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I think alcohol is a necessity for a Wolves draft night....
so no apologies necessary.
But, I still wonder what’s going on with Rubio-Flynn with 5 & 6. Seems like we should’ve taken Curry and traded him down for a wing, if we were set with Rubio. It’s fishy to me.
no kidding...
…they lucked into that one. i bet the blazers were hoping like hell he’d fall one more spot.
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When Silver said Minnesota Timberwolves trade...
I just took a deep breath and felt thankful that McHale is up north fishing somewhere
Sorry, I was out
anything happen tonight?
Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009
Nothing at all.
Really boring draft. No surprises.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, thanks
I’ll hit the sack and check back around Opening Day.
Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009
Good idea.
This offseason is going to be pretty dull.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You’ll be alright here, Ricky. You and Kevin Love were born to play together. And after games you guys can watch classic NBA.
Flynn was a horrible choice. I guess we can speculate his game might be better suited for the NBA, but who knows? Hollinger had him 9th, I guess. I think they maybe drafted the next Marcus Banks; hope I’m wrong.
Wolves traded Ellington?
Reported by DX
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What about...
shipping Rubio to Boston for Rondo?
BetterLaettner
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
You'd have to ask why
Boston seem to be trying to shift Rondo, wouldn’t you?
Guy won a ring 12 months ago and now he has been part of three or four rumours.
Keep both PG's
Wolves should keep both PG’s for a year or three. Let them battle to see who is best fit and trade the other in a couple years. Expecting two good starters at 5&6 in a weak draft is not realistic. Kahn is hedging his bets and trying his best to make sure the Wolves get one top PG out of this draft. If someone said Monday that the Wolves would trade Miller & #6 to Memphis to pick Rubio people would have been ecstatic. Now on top of that they traded Foye for Flynn!
Look at it this way , in 2006 if the Wolves had drafted THEIR preferred choice at 5(Foye) and then traded a couple soon to be gone players for another SG named Roy, everyone would have been complaining during the draft. However, nobody would be complaining today. This is the same thing the Cowboys did twenty years ago drafting Aikman #1 then giving up a #1 the next year to take Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. They kept the best, traded the other and won a couple Super Bowls.
Not saying the Wolves just drafted a Hall of Famer, but they leave this draft knowing that in two years they are set at PG and PF. They have massive assets over the next year to fill other positions. They have expiring contracts, Pekovic, and could have three top 20 picks next year, including their own that will be a top 5 if they don’t make a short term trade to improve next season.
well put...
…let’s see how this plays out.
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Possible 2011 roster
PG – Rubio/Flynn
SG – ?/Gomes
SF – ?/Brewer
PF – Jefferson/Love
C – Cole Aldrich/Pekovich
Lot of potential, still have Cap Space as well!
But if you are drafting Flynn to be a backup
why on earth did you move 2 of your best trade assets to Washington?
That doesn;t work for me. If you thought this draft was so weak, why trade for another pick?
And another point with Calethes
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Potential???
We need guys that can shoot the ball
by KenEJohnson on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Look
I’m all for drafting the rights to Rubio. He may play a few years in Spain, he’s only 18, continuing to develop, and if comes over next year, he gets #5 pick money for the 2010 draft class and may have a cheaper buyout, we have his rights another year longer, and he is a year older. Plus, that way Flynn and Rubio’s free agent years won’t be the same offseason. That’s a good long term value trade essentially trading Foye and Miller for a potential of Greatness.
Taking Flynn that early seems like a bad personnel choice and a reach at the same time, and as much as I want to like him, i just can’t believe he was the #1 player on the board, and question our scouting department for that.
Dickie V. is hammering the Wolves 2 PG vision, saying he likes both but they won’t be able to play together. Says they should have took Curry. Hmmm….
Vitale right for the first time in history
and the world stops spinning
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that we should’ve taken Curry….but only to trade him down for DeRozan or Clark. I don’t know what is going on with Flynn.
Yeah
The must have actually thought he was BPA. If so, well, I guess we should draft assets. But is he going to be better than Lawson? I mean aren’t we better with Rubio, Lawson, and whatever we can get for 6? Instead of Rubio, Flynn and pick in the teens next year?
And we just got Calathes. I would like to point out that I said we should draft Lawson at 18 and Calathes ar 28 about 3 hours ago after we took Flynn. I thought it was a joke 5 pgs and 10pfs. Gag.
Vitale hating it
is the one thing that makes me think maybe Rubio/Flynn can work.
by princelyfrank on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saw the Lakers took PG Douglas
Earlier tonight, I suggested the Lakers will be needing a PG, maybe they’d want Flynn — but that Flynn was too short for Phil. So they took Douglas (6’1") instead. Opportunity lost.
Why?
Y didn’t the wolves trade their 2 2nd round picks up to get Jodie Meeks or Daunte Cunningham or one of the Pitt boys? at least someone that will get a chance to play
we had him listed...
…right behind lawson as one of the best guards in the draft.
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I Have a Feeling Telfair will not be on this Roster..
Easy Guys..Calathes won’t be around for 2 years..
BTW liked the Ellington pick...
are we trading him? He’d be capable of stepping in and helping right away.
Seriously
Rubio is a gift. Flynn a reach. Lawson a waste. Ellington a great pick given away. Didn’t anybody tell Kahn about Chalmers? Third verse same as the first. The huge grin I had 3 hours ago after Rubio has slowly gone away. If we trade Rubio we better get a King’s ransom.
his shot is much smoother than mccants
mccants might be able to get to the bucket better
Ellington's not a knucklehead.
That’s a pretty big difference. Ellington’s a bit bigger, too.
by princelyfrank on Jun 25, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Is the current roster...
..even capable of scoring outside of 15 feet? Seriously. If Ellington is gone we cannot shoot. At all.
The more things change...
… the more they stay the same.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Kahn must be salivating
This draft must be playing out better than Kahn could have ever hoped. If McHale was still GM OKC would have taken Rubio, Denver would have never called to hand the Wolves a potential lottery pick, and Calathes would have gone 5 picks earlier. Or he would have passed on Rubio, turned down Denver, and not known Calathes could still be picked.
Maybe Taylor secretly plans to enter the Euro
The Wolves have the (NBA) rights to the best PG and the best Center over there.
…he’s my EuroStash guard…
Hey, they took
Rubio’s teammate. I wonder if there are any politics in that.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
Euro...
is a teammate of Ricky Rubio…interesting.
If those were his best highlights
yikes. He can’t play in the NBA. 3 plays would go by before he got down court.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
it felt like he was running to Chariots of Fire.
good luck dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta love RealGM's summary
Norel has really good skill and length, but is soft and mediocre athletically.
And a power forward.
For the love of bacon. Obviously we’re trading about 8 guys currently on the roster, but aren’t we devaluing our assets? Everybody knows we have no choice but to trade 5 PFs and 2 PGs, so why offer what they are worth (which isn’t much in the first place?
Calathes to Mavs...???
Dan Wetzel says Calathes is being traded to the Mavs
by San Diego Viking on Jun 25, 2009 10:31 PM CDT reply actions
he doesn’t say what for, but what else is left?
by San Diego Viking on Jun 25, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
RealGM draft ticker.....
http://www.realgm.com/src_draftnight_2009.php?1245987593405
Ellington hasn’t come up on it, so must be rubbish.
You must be kidding.
Why give him away right now? For nothing of value, presumably. What if he rocks in Greece?
At least the Henk pick got Chad Ford to say something nice
about the Wolves
Chad Ford’s Analysis: Norel is the first player drafted that I didn’t have in my top 60. He’s an energy guy who isn’t especially skilled. I wasn’t wowed by him at the Reebok Eurocamp. But I defer to Pete Philo, the Wolves’ excellent international scout — he runs the camp and knows his stuff.
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Yeah....
….that will go right in line with all of the past Euro steals the Wolves have made….
silence
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Well, in all fairness..
..he’s also slower and less skilled. With a worse haircut. Is it legal to have Rubio and Norel on the same team? Even in Europe that has to be comical
Lemme guess . . .
Calathes to the Mavs for a vaginal bulb syringe and cash.
I always knew..
….we would have a picture of a vaginal bulb syringe on the site but I just didn’t know how it would play out.
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This has probably already been posted, but from Zgoda....
Two point guards?
What’s up with that?
Trade?
Nope, a Wolves spokesman rushed from upstairs right after the Flynn pick was made to tell us, promise us, swear they’re NOT trading either one.
Kahn is in the war room telling agents calling in wondering what the… that they intend to play those two together like the Pistons did Dumars and Isiah or the Celtics did Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge.
Kevin Love just tweeted, "These guys are going to love my outlets."
Yeah, and...
..Love is going to average 9 offensive rebounds a game from all the bricks they’ll be throwing up.
Seriously, I am thrilled with Rubio, but Flynn? I really hope they are right.
Love: "These guys are going to love my outlets."
You mean, like this?
Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009
Saw this on the strib board
http://www.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idUSTRE55P0LC20090626
NEW YORK (Reuters) – Flashy Spanish point guard Ricky Rubio, selected fifth overall in Thursday’s NBA Draft by the Minnesota Timberwolves, said he was thrilled to play in the NBA even though he faces chilly winter nights in the Midwestern state.
"It’s cold there," Rubio told reporters moments after his name was called at the draft. "Yeah, my mom hates cold places."
Minnesota is a less cosmopolitan location than other places seen as possible destinations for the dazzling playmaker, such as New York, but Rubio said marketing was not an issue for him.
"I’m not thinking about the marketing right now," Rubio said. "I’m thinking about to play minutes. That’s my love. I want to play basketball, and if they give me minutes, I’m going to come."
Asked if he was excited to play for Minnesota, the 18-year-old said: "I’m excited to come to the NBA."
Rubio, whose trickery and slick ball-handling, as well as his mussed brown hair, have led to comparisons with former American sensation Pete Maravich, was projected by some experts as the second-best prospect in this year’s draft.
But unlike his fellow prospects, Rubio’s draft status may have been complicated by his 4.75 million euro ($6.6 million) buyout he must pay in order to be set free by his current team, Spain’s DKV Joventut.
"Now I know where I’m going to go, so I have to talk with the team, what exactly they want about me, and if necessary, I’m going to pay the buyout," Rubio said. "We are closer to an agreement with the team, so we are going to see."
The 6-foot-4 Rubio, who turned professional at age 14, has drawn raves for his slick passing and basketball smarts, though critics question his shooting ability.
Rubio said he was a player "who loves to pass and run and who loves to do defense, too."
A turning point for Rubio came during the 2008 Beijing Olympics, where as a member of the Spanish national team that won silver he drew notice when he held his own in competing in the championship game against U.S. point guard stars Chris Paul, Deron Williams and Jason Kidd.
"It’s helped me a lot because I played against the best players in the NBA, so that means that I can play here," Rubio said.
"I realized in the Olympic Games that I’m feeling good in the game, so that moment, I realize that I can play here, and that helps me a lot."
After Rubio’s selection, Minnesota picked another point guard, Jonny Flynn from Syracuse.
"That’s a big surprise for me they took another point guard," Rubio said. "But we are going to see what they want.
For his part, Flynn said of Rubio: "I can’t wait to go play with him."
"It’s good to have two facilitators that can make plays on the court," he added. "I think we can boost each other’s level of play."
While it does sound like he's making the best of a bad situation...
… it does give me some hope.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Hope you guys love Rubio & Flynn
But, I can’t say I’m bitter. (Oh wait, yes I am. Do I hate Geoff Petrie right now? Yes.)
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Just caught the end with Stuart Scott giving Kahn some love for his word choice.
To make a reference: Kahn uses his tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but even he couldn't put lipstick on this pig
called Flynn more of a “scoring point.” Well, fine. But HE"S AN ON THE BALL GUY. He doesn’t play off the ball.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't see that part.
As I said, I just caught the end. Even if he’s spouting bullshit (which that definitely is), you have to admire his delivery.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
but why not take Curry then? Knicks wanted him, so we extract value. They probably would have done Chandler and their pick right? And we get another top 10. Instead we have a Bassy clone who can jump real high and a good guy.
To Be Honest Guys...You have to be Happy about this Draft
We got Rubio…I’m Happy about this Draft after The Garbage Drafts we’ve had the past 3 years..with Foye-Roy, McCants over Granger and Love Mayo…This is a Much better Draft.
Well...
..wouldn’t we be happier with Rubio, Curry/Derozan, Chandler, Lawson, Ellington, and Calathes? Instead of Rubio, Flynn, Ellington a teens pick next year, and a bag of rocks?
nah
we had to ditch at least one of the 1st rounders. You just can’t have 4 rookie guarantees.. And Lawson was best for that. But i agree on the Curry/Derozan
Yeah, I guess..
.. I was thinking in terms of assets. The pick at 6 is not the value it should have been, esp. w/Curry waiting to extract value form the KNicks, and Lawson and Calathes were great value given away for next to nothing (or nothing better – what are the chances we get a better asset with the Charlotte pick than Alwson?)..
Better? Maybe not
but definitely “Bigger.”
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Sorry, but the Lawson trade is a great trade...
How likely is it that Charlotte has a pick 18 or lower next year? If the draft is better next year, this is a no-brainer. The 14th pick in next year’s draft is probably more valuable than Lawson, especially since they wouldn’t have taken him to keep him on the team.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Jun 25, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he just said that
Because Vitale ripped him that playing Rubio and Flynn will get a coach fired earlier in the broadcast.
I was concerned about the idea of playing Rubio and Flynn together
until I heard that Vitale was against it.
Now I’m willing to give it a chance.
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Houston accumulating draft rights here....
just bought the rights to Chase Budinger from Detroit for cash and future 2nd rounder.
Dork Elvis went nuts
Jermaine Taylor, Sergio Llull, and Chase Budinger in the 2nd.
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Pretty sure no one knows.
Near as I can tell, the only source is a throwaway line on Draft Express.
by Jon Marthaler on Jun 25, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it is a typo -
I think they meant to say Lawson not Ellington.
“It looks like Denver traded for another first rounder from Minnesota, and they decided to take Wayne Ellington. "
Right?
Right...
….I haven’t received confirmation but it appears to be a typo.
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Ellington for the Charlotte pick..
..I am happy. Lawson? Uh, not so much. We got 3 tremendous value picks in Rubio, Lawson, and Calathes, and we’ve given 2 away for the pu-pu platter. So far.
Okay, I'm wracking my brain here
assuming the worst, that Rubio was just picked for another team’s needs. But I can’t even figure out which team has a young, quality 2 or 3 (or 2 and a 3) and/or a shot-blocker/rimrocker, and needs a teenaged phenom at point guard. And didn’t already pass on Rubio with the first four picks. Who fits the bill?
Atlanta? New Jersey? New York? Help me out here, people
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Can you believe San Antonio?
Those second rounders are as good as late first-round picks. This is bullshizz.
Trade???
The New York Knicks are working hard to cut a deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves to acquire guard Ricky Rubio, a Western Conference said.
One league GM said a deal "isn’t 100 percent," but likely.
It came up way earlier tonight from Woj's bit on Yahoo.
Nothing has come of it since. Kahn has come out multiple times saying they’re not trading either, including after this rumor.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
So Far Kahn hasn't Smokescreened us yet either..
Said he was trying to acquire additional picks..Did that…said he wasn’t going to trade #5 and #6 to get #10…and we didn’t do that.
Crazy
I wonder how different the mood would be if we’d traded 5 and 6 for Rubio. We’d absolutely love Rubio + Flynn instead.
but nobody wanted to do that
Nobody wanted to trade 5 and 6 for 2. We didn’t, we got lucky and then gagged. If Flynn is not a MUCH better player than Curry we completely choked. Or if what we get for Flynn isn’t MUCH better than Curry we choked. We could have had either Curry or 2 pieces from the Knicks. We didn’t.
Look, I hope Flynn is an All-star, but doesn’t it look like a terrible pick given what we could have done with it after grabbing Rubio?
that was from earlier in the evening
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Wolves have 15 players, not including Carney
Must be planning on trading one or two bad, expiring contracts at PF for another team’s bad, expiring contracts at SG/SF.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they also trade Craig Smith, seems like a good contract but he no longer has a role on the team.
Don't think anything will play out...
until after July 1. I think Kahn feels he can get a free agent 2 or 3 to provide veteran leadership.
BYW – How long do we have to wait before we can dump the ex-Wizard pu-pu platter?ccccccxccc
You know
I can’t really figure out the reasoning behind that rule—OK on their own but not in combination.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
If you do decide to start...
..I suggest sheep dip. Good stuff.
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Okay, let's assume we're not getting Kahned
on playing Rubio and Flynn together (I’ll be shocked if that’s how it works out, but, whatevs).
What coach is going to sign up for that situation?
Strike that. What coach whom anyone would want is going to sign up for that situation?
Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009
And when it comes to developing
unathletic power forwards, we’ve got plenty of raw material.
I wonder if Laimbeer has any holdovers from his days with the Pistons who could work with the point guards? He would have to have some coaching expereince, though. Suicidal tendencies would be a nice touch.
Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009
I bet Jackson is the choice
which I’m not so up for, but there you go. I still can’t figure out what they did here.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
scares me.
I’ve heard too many asinine comments from him.
Of course, the Wolves have J.B. Bickerstaff on staff, so I guess consistently making yourself look foolish on air doesn’t disqualify you from being a coach for the Wolves.
To be fair...
… that’s actually a smarter move on his part. Most ex-coaches who want to get back into coaching (or former players who want to coach) talk using asinine or general statements as to not harm their future job options.
I don’t like it, but it’s generally what happens.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 25, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
god i hate the Flynn and also trading Calthes
WTF Kahn i thought you were going to be different? you better make a trade soon or something and it better not involve Rubio who i love.
Vikings have signed Brett Favre!!
T-Wolves lets trade up to get Rubio
You'll be happy to know
that the Vikings have signed Favre, but they traded him to Detroit.
Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009
for Matthew Stafford?
lol no probably Culpepper back
Vikings have signed Brett Favre!!
T-Wolves lets trade up to get Rubio
lol so who's our starting SG Ellington? i hope we go after Ben Gordon
Vikings have signed Brett Favre!!
T-Wolves lets trade up to get Rubio
As what?
I can’t fathom expecting Brewer to be able to fill a starting role. Of course, this team is going to be bad, so maybe so, but I don’t understand the confidence in Brewer. He’s more likely to be 10th man quality than starting quality.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
so this group then?
C-Jefferson/Thomas/Collins
PF-Love/Cardinal/Pecherov
SF-Gomes/Songalia/Smith
SG-Brewer/Ellington
PG-Rubio/(ugh)Flynn/Telfair
Vikings have signed Brett Favre!!
T-Wolves lets trade up to get Rubio
Much is still left to change on that list.
Smith won’t be a Wolf this fall, that’s pretty much guaranteed.
And Cardinal's gotta go
to take advantage of his expiring salary. Maybe MadDog too.
Bobby Brown can cash in his option for $750K — or look for a place he can actually play.
And Collins? Well, as far as I know, he’s a free agent. The Wolves have to hold a little over $9 million in cap space for him — until they renounce him. Would you pay $9M for him based on what you saw last year?
And to complete this Wacky Scheme for World Domination, all the Wolves need to do now is turn their pick, the Utah pick, and Charlotte pick into Cole Aldrich, Al Farouq Aminu, and Evan Turner in next year’s draft. Voila!
Voila!
They still won’t be able to make a Three!!!
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Songailia's a power forward. So's Smith.
We’re awfully thin at SG and SF.
by princelyfrank on Jun 25, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
By default, I think that the starting "2" job is his
until he loses it. But it’s really a coaching decision.
I’m just saying don’t count him out, because he’s not.
you know i think that they may use Flynn like the Bulls use their old PG
Damn i forget his name, he was the one who got into it with Rondo in the playoffs
Vikings have signed Brett Favre!!
T-Wolves lets trade up to get Rubio
what a weird night.
Hopefully Jonny Flynn can learn how to shoot. any word on what the wolves got for Calathes besides future considerations? Perhaps the rights to Nowitski’s bastard child?
I hope we trade Flynn for DeRozan or something
Vikings have signed Brett Favre!!
T-Wolves lets trade up to get Rubio
Now there's a gene combo to get excited about
German AND Crazy.
(wait, where have I seen those qualities before?)
Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009
Spurs grab Nando De Colo
Looks like a nice combo of Manu/Rubio.
If you’re going to have a combo guard, make him 6’5", pass well, shoot well.
Those guys always know more about the Euros. I bet he turns out great.
He’s gotta be better for the Wolves than, umm, Henk.
Man you guys are so jaded...
I just read the thread and almost everyone is negative… are you kidding me? This is the best wolves draft by far since KG. It could end up being better than KG!
If before the draft started I told you we’d get Rubio, Flynn, Ellington, a 2010 first rounder higher than 18, and Calathes…without giving up anything… everyone would have been ecstatic.
Flynn reminds me of allen iverson. Whether he will work out with Rubio is another question. But what if Rubio doesn’t come over until 2010?
Couple of thoughts
1. It’s not a good thing if Rubio doesn’t come over. They need to get him in uniform and on the court this year.
2. If Flynn is a hedge…what a waste.
3. If Flynn is a backup…why the hell did you trade your two best tradeable peices to get another pick in the draft if you thought the best you were going to do was a backup?
4. They cannot play together. I am excited about Rubio, don’t see what’s so great about Flynn, but they obviously CANNOT play together.
5. It’s so bad that I would trade Flynn to the Knicks for Jordan Hill. And I have no interest in Hill.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 25, 2009 11:48 PM CDT reply actions
Wrong, BPA always take BPA
Aside from curry, flynn was definitely the best player available at 6. I see him as an allen iverson type. Wolves can trade him if they want and get solid assets in return if they choose. Eric I’ve got absolutely no problem with what the wolves did there. Keeping both players in the long run may prove problematic, but either one will have more value than any other player taken later (with the exception of NY curry man-crush).
He's not even vaguely like Iverson
except that he’s short. Iverson was a scoring savant in college. He was also much quicker than Flynn ever dreamed of being.
Ultimately, I think he’s a lot more similar to Bassy Telfair than he is Iverson.
Curry may be more like Hubert Davis than he is Mike Bibby too, but I’d rather have the Hubert Davis clone making 3s for me instead of a redundant point guard.
I also hope having drafted Flynn doesn’t throw a wrench into Rubio coming over.
by Eric in Madison on Jun 26, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Welcome to the Kevin McKahn era...
…snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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