Summer League Game #5 Open Thread
by wyn on Jul 19, 2009 4:50 PM CDT
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To close out Vegas the Summer Wolves will be taking on Chicago. James Johnson has had a good week running a lot of point forward for the Bulls, he'll be fun to watch. It's time for Corey Brewer to start showing something. He's been very quiet all week and a strong performance would give him a little positive momentum to carry him the rest of the summer and into the regular season. Jonny Flynn and Wayne Ellington have shown what they can do, so we may not see much of them. Then again, the Wolves don't seem terribly interested in finding out who else on the summer squad may be worth keeping around. Paul Harris hasn't seen much burn, contrary to expectations. Devin Green has looked like a guy that would help the Wolves' perimeter but he seen the court much either. Essentially, today's starters look like it's the last day of Summer League. What a coincidence. Ben Woodside / Paul Harris / Corey Brewer / Oleksiy Pecherov / Garrett Siler
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a. will this be on nba.com?
b. rumor is johnson was who we wanted at the 18. not sure I buy it.
c. green is too slow for the pro game. kid has heavy feet. harris just is too small and not effective. 3bills is the only one I imagine we give a look to. bobby brown would need to be bought out. but his size and strength makes a nice center.
which let me ask. could we sign silar and put him in the nbdl without using a roster spot?
by revprodeji on Jul 19, 2009 4:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
a. only if you pay for it (used to be free but not anymore)
I’m not 100% sure but I do think ppl in the NBDL count against the 15-player cap.
We got Rubio!
by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 19, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
adthe.net has a link about half way down.
one skill of brewers that was clear at florida and he still has is that he can get in the paint and dish off to a big guy. if he could get a lil 5ft jumper it could be a nice tool.
by revprodeji on Jul 19, 2009 5:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Brewer crossover and then misses the layup .. same thing I dreaded seeing last year in summer league, don’t miss layups!
We got Rubio!
it got blocked. Brewer is doing alright today
by FutureViking43 on Jul 19, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
It's getting harder and harder...
….to dress up just how bad Brewer looks.
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He's unable to distinguish himself...
…in a group with White Hole, Siler, Woodside and Paul Harris.
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you want to root for the guy...
…but lordy.
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True Hoop...
…has a live blog right now. Here’s an interesting stat from Brewer:
Kevin Arnovitz There’s very little C. Brewer does to help you. The man shot 43% from close range and had 29% of his close attempts blocked in 08-09.
Here’s the link for the stat:
http://www.82games.com/0809/08MIN8.HTM
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Is Siler the best player on the court right now?
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I'd go...
….Flynn, Ellington and Siler in terms of the best players for the Wolves in SL.
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20 athletic finishes for that brewer kid. :)
by revprodeji on Jul 19, 2009 5:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Brewer
His handle when on the perimeter just making a basic catch and swingpass to a teammate makes me gasp every time he is put in this situation. He may not turn it over, but he has to give 100% effort to dribbling and consequently his awareness when doing so is awful.
It reminds me a bit...
…of when Chuck Knoblauch forgot how to throw to first. How can a professional athlete not be able to do something so simple? How do you get to this level and not be able to handle the ball? It has to be confidence.
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Confidence I hope..
How can he have conifdence when he’s 6’8" with a 3-foot vertical but gets 29% of his close shots blocked? How is that even possible?
must be
If you just look at those games; could you guess who was drafted higher between Brewer and Ellington? Ellington was a steal at #28, Brewer would have been just ok … like he’s playing right now.
Really running out of hope because this is the same Brewer I saw last year in SL … we’ll see how the season goes so that’s the last I’m gonna say ’bout it right now
We got Rubio!
by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 19, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah..
…it would be one thing if Brewer played like an average player before he got hurt and that his improvement was from kind of bad to average rather than from horrible suck to kind of bad.
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the jumper has looked okay tough
in the two games I’ve seen so far
We got Rubio!
by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 19, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewer sets a screen to Jonny's left
and Jonny refuses to take his man into it and goes right… hopefully he can develop his left side more before he becomes a key player for us.
it is strange because he can dribble and pass left no problem. I wonder why he does not use it. he needs to quit shooting off the dribble. his spot up is fine but off the dribble he seems short.
by revprodeji on Jul 19, 2009 5:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Just got here...
… what (if anything) have we learned today? Sorry.
Brewer’s shot is going good, he also runs the transition good but his dribble and halfcourt game looks quite awfull to me
Pecherov is doing ok but will be at best a 2nd bench at SF or something like that.
Flynn has a bit of an off day
Ellington continues to shoot nicely and show some other things he can do, though not much time has been given to him today
Siler will be a nice pickup for some other team
Rest of the players won’t be making an NBA team (except perhaps for Kurz, but not on the Wolves)
That must be it ;)
We got Rubio!
by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 19, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
oh and...
Bobby Brown is an injury-reserve but nothing else
We got Rubio!
by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 19, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Go left
Go Left, flynn! Nice layup at the end of the third but boy does he like to go right. That won’t last long in the NBA.
Most Rookies
If flynn is like most rookies, his defense will be dreadful. Hopefully he can display consistent effort and focus on that end.
Unless the feet are moving...
… there is no hope. No length to make up for it.
his energy and attitude
was a great tonic compared to McCants and Foye
his actual NBA basketball performance…never really been very effective
flynn is getting killed on picks but how much of that is his teammates? we need a defensive coach bad.
by revprodeji on Jul 19, 2009 6:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Give Flynn a break already.
It’s summer league, and the coach is frickin’ Jerry Sichting. ’Nuff said.
Very impressive.
All summer league caveats aside, I was not impressed with Flynn’s defense. I don’t think I have anywhere said that I am writing him off. He needs to learn to go left, he needs to learn to play defense. Unfortunately, we are a team in desperate need of perimeter defense given our lack of an intimidating back line, so Flynn’s progress in this regard might have to come sooner rather than later. I’m here to see what we have, to admit what we don’t. We have a funny point guard who is quick as lightning, pretty creative offensively, who doesn’t prevent penetration and unfortunately doesn’t have the length to make up for it. If we are going to point to the bad things with Brewer, seems fair to point at the bad things with the shiny new point guard. If you want, you can wait a few weeks before being critical. But I’m calling it as I see it here.
Summer League
basically shows you what a player’s basic tendencies and instincts are.
What we’ve learned is that Jonny’s defense is not instinctive.
it looks to me
that Flynn will be a good on-ball defender, based on the fact that he keeps low and moves his feet well. This kid has played nothing but zone defense for the past two years, so I’m willing to be a little more patient than those who write him off after 5 summer league games coached by Sichting.
we heard :D
Funny!
Gotta say, all in all not a bad summer campaign, last year we won 4-0 so that shows how little it tells. Saw some nice things, don’t think we’ll be picking anyone up though … or maybe from another team though I don’t think so.
Again, we are blessed with a whole lot of “ok players” at the SF spot, a whole lot of players we could really be good backups: Brewer, Pecherov, Gomes …. but no one that’s a surefire starter there … hope we can fix that somewhere in the future…
We got Rubio!
by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 19, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That made me scream
and I was watching it at my house on the low quality 5 inch screen they have
by FutureViking43 on Jul 19, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
nobody plays defense in summer league.
cut brown sign 3bills
by revprodeji on Jul 19, 2009 6:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
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