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Stop thinking of Flynn trades.

Why is everybody making trades with Flynn involved. Flynn is the best point guard we got. I might be pessimistic here but I don't think Rubio is ever gonna play for us, and he's definitely not playing this year. Flynn just became the second most exciting player on the team, and he has the best personality. Why would everyone want to ship him with the ceiling of Chris Paul and the floor of a 6th man (optimistic now). Obviously I'm not being serious about the trade posts because that's what this site is kinda for, but c'mon can we try and be a little more excited for hopefully our point guard of the future.  Thoughts?

(Ed Note: I'm bumping this to the front because I think it makes a solid point.   Is Flynn the best point on this team without having played a minute?  Does he have a high ceiling?  Will he be better than Bassy in his first year?  What say you?)

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Agree, although I'm more optimistic about Rubio

but I tend to think we give them both a go. I don’t accept the recieved wisdom that they can’t coexist on the same squad in the short term, even if having them on court together may prove problematic.

by Auswolf on Jul 5, 2009 12:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree..

….that conventional wisdom is a bit overblown with the idea that Flynn and Rubio are a disaster waiting to happen. I would take issue with the idea that Flynn’s ceiling is anything close to Chris Paul or that he will be the team’s best PG this year. Until we see how he can finish in the lane and how well he takes care of the rock (not to mention his man defense…which is the big reason why Kahn said he took him over Curry) I think we’re still talking about someone on the level of DJ Augustin more than anything else. That being said, I do want to see him play in a Wolves uniform. They need to see what they have.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 5, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there needs to be more..

….than a comparison of points, assists, fg% and physical measurables.

http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Wake%20Forest&y=2005

http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Syracuse

Paul rebounded much better, got to the line at a much higher rate and was more opportunistic with steals. Flynn has his positives and he does some things better than Paul did in college but there needs to be more than just basic pts/ast/fg% to make the comparison. What about team style, pace and so on and so forth? They are close in some key areas (ast-r, to-r) but they are quite different in several others (mostly with Paul ending up on the winning side of things).

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 5, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea i guess

but I kind of look more at the players specifically because when you look that deep, you can keep going on anything. The talent of their team, the talent of the teams they played against, the conferences, the state of college basketball as a whole in a four year difference. So yea I guess you have to look at that stuff but when you go so far with certain stats the less and less comparisons there is until there isn’t any at all.

by Cudder on Jul 5, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true...

…but there are lots of players who have similar ppg, apg and size numbers. There’s a line to cross and that’s no where near it.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 5, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flynn/Paul

I’ve heard this comparsion before. I believe the basis was primarily their ability to get to the rim through traffic. While I’d be surprised to say the least if Flynn’s matches Paul stats-wise in the NBA. I think Rascal made a excellent point in that many of Flynn’s skills will shine in NBA Iso Situations as opposed to facing College Zone Defenses.

by Jose Cordoba on Jul 5, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RUBIOO

his potential has no ceiling

hes been playing pro since he was 14!

with his experience talent and vision

i really think it would be amazingly brainless for an organization like our twolves

to give up such a player

flynn is by far not the best pg we have

its rubio

by andrew33 on Jul 5, 2009 12:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and

even if he does stay in spain for 2 years

hes only going to be 20 when he comes to the nba

i really hope we dont let go of this guy

by andrew33 on Jul 5, 2009 12:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Part of it for me

is that I don’t see much in Flynn. I noticed SnP referenced Augustin—I think that’s pretty good, as Flynn’s close to best case. I’d take the under on flynn having the better career than Augustin.

So I want to cash him in now, though I’ve said elsewhere that I doubt the market for him is that good. I just don’t see it getting a lot better in the next year or 2. I’ve been wrong plenty of times before.

Also, I would like to see Kahn start to balance the roster. It isn’t entirely urgent, but the expiring contracts he has are only really useful until the trade deadline, and I hope he doesn’t wait that long, because in-season trades can be hard to do.

Finally, regardless of whether Rubio is here or not, if Bassy is on the team, it’s reasonably likely that he’ll be the best point guard. If Rubio and Flynn ARE here, I hope they trade Bassy.

by Eric in Madison on Jul 5, 2009 9:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh--

yes, the Augustin comparisons for “upside” are spot on. Although, Augustin shot 44%(!) from the 3 last year, and Flynn was only 31% for his last year in college. But I could see Flynn diligently improving his outside jumper enough to get a little closer to that level of accuracy. Flynn could be a better defender and get to the rim a little more often—we’ll see. In the meantime, I’ll accept him as the second coming of Earl Watson.

Regardless of how likable he is, I think we need to get our expectations down to a reasonable level. Assuming he starts at the point on opening day (I think he’ll still be the back-up if Bassy’s on the roster and Rubio’s not), he will be playing for a new coach, with rookie/below-replacement-level players at the 2 and 3, a solid 4, and a 5 who is recovering from injury. If he comes off the bench, his surrounding cast will be even worse. Expect frustrating turnovers, poor shooting percentages, and not getting calls when he tries to penetrate—then you’ll be pleasantly surprised if it turns out any different.

That said, as much as we might wish that the Wolves had picked another player (Curry/DeRozan) or been able to trade down a few steps and still end up with Flynn, he was the perfect person to pick in that situation. His likely career is that of a very good backup, or an average starter. He provides insurance against Rubio not coming over right away, and against Bassy not taking the player option next year. I doubt that someone will offer anything to the Wolves for him that would pique their interest, at least until Rubio is actually in uniform, but if they offered a solid young starter in return, I’d gladly take it.

Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009

by PoorDick on Jul 5, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Earl Watson is a good one

I was thinking before SnP mentioned Augustin that his best case upside was something like Charlotte’s other point guard. But I doubt Flynn ever becomes the passer Felton is.

by Eric in Madison on Jul 5, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flynn vs. Augustin

Yes, Augustin is the better outside shooter, but one huge difference between these two is their 2pt%, with Flynn shooting 52.9% and 52.1% in his freshman and sophomore year. Augustin never shot better than 44.9% for 2’s while at Texas. And from a physical profile perspective, Flynn is the (slightly) longer and more explosive athlete. Because of this, I think he has a shot at being a much better finisher than Augustin or Telfair for that matter. And that’s really the critical success factor for Jonny Flynn: When he finds the seam in the defense – and he will find the seam with his speed and handles – can he knock down the short jumpers, floaters, layups, and get to the free throw line? This is something Telfair or Augustin or Felton can’t do efficiently.

by Rascal Flatts on Jul 5, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't mind...

…folks looking for trading options for Flynn. It means that a) Rubio will be here and b) that Jonny is too good to be backup. That presumes that Ricky actually lives up to the hype but Rubio’s potential to put many of our butts back into the Target Center pretty much ensures that he is given the starting job over Flynn.

As far as I’m concerned, if Rubio doesn’t come (this year, next, or ever) then having Jonny is a good, perhaps great, thing.

In terms of straight basketball, I hold the opinion that Flynn might actually turn out to be the better overall player than Ricky in the long run. And I think he may be a better “leader” of NBA players than a precocious pretty boy from Spain. Jonny’s size is his only limiting factor.

Whether Flynn in his rookie year will be better than the more experienced, but self-limiting Telfair is a crapshoot. In my opinion, both of them will be hampered by the lack of an experienced, steady “2” guard. And the selection of a coach will weigh in here as well. By the end of Flynn’s second year, I hope that we don’t need to wonder.

As Eric points out, Flynn doesn’t have much market demand right now. I do believe that Jonny has the potential to increase his value a great deal, but it will be very dependent on situational factors (Rubio, coach, injury, etc) which he has little control over.

by levi_mn on Jul 5, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think

being the best PG on our team is such a strong point.

If you think at it in terms of the #1 and #3 caliber player on a championship team (jeff being 2 and Love being 4) … Is he that #3? Is Rubio that #1 .. I don’t know.

Beater of the early Thabeet drum ... but not so much of the late one

by Wim (Belgium) on Jul 5, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm against a Flynn trade...

At this point, but mainly because there’s not a great market for him. With so many PGs drafted in the first round, almost every team needing a point guard got one. His value wouldn’t be at a starter’s level. But if he played for two years and some of the other guys (Holiday, Jennings, Lawson, Teague) end up as busts, then his value goes up. But I agree with those who say that his defense and ability to draw fouls will be under the most scrutiny because those seem to be the main reasons he was chosen over Curry.

by pagingstanleyroberts on Jul 5, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The frustrating thing about Flynn...

… is that there’s little reason to believe that he will be that much better (or any better) than the point guards who were drafted much later (Jennings, Holiday, Lawson, Maynor, even Calathes). I would’ve preferred drafting Curry or DeRozen at 6 and then drafting and keeping Lawson and Calathes. Flynn seems to have been labeled the “best player available” on the strength of a single workout and a good interview with Kahn, and I’m dubious that he’ll end up as the smartest decision that could’ve been made at #6. But now that we’ve traded away Lawson AND Calathes (I still can’t understand the logic behind trading both), it looks like we have to keep him.

by Shogun on Jul 5, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree, but I think this is a good example of the difference between front offices and scouts versus your fan base. We don’t take as much time to study these guys, and we don’t get the benefit of live workouts, shortly before the draft. On the one hand, they have more information to go off of, and that should help pick the best players first. On the other, they probably take themselves and their job too seriously, and become very convinced that one player (Flynn, in this case) is better than another player (Lawson/Jennings/Holiday, in this case) even though, if you take a step or two back, you can see that it’s likely that the reverse could almost as easily be true.

Let’s hope that Kahn/Hoiberg/etc have a better feel for these types of close calls than the previous regime, and that they were smart to reach for Flynn and pass on more traditional logic that the Average Joe seemed to think was taking one point guard and one shooting guard.

by Andy G on Jul 5, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I’m unsure about Flynn, but he was definitely a workhorse at Syracuse (he averaged over 39 mpg as a frosh in addition to his performance in last year’s Big East tourney), and his physical measurables are favorable for a guy his size. I doubt Kahn was the only one who created the tiers on their board, and the rest of the staff has been working on this for the whole year.

by pagingstanleyroberts on Jul 5, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate drafting a guy because he interviews well.

I bet Ted Bundy interviewed well. Sociopaths are often charming. I’m not saying Johnny Flynn is a sociopath, (he most likely is not) but rather that, when hiring, one shouldn’t be taken in by charm unless the specific job you want the candidate to perform is to “be charming.”

by princelyfrank on Jul 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Mark Madsen is charismatic (in a goofy way)...

… but he isn’t a good basketball player. My quacked-out psychoanalysis of Kahn is that because he himself is charismatic, he overvalues the charisma of a guy like Flynn. I’m not saying this is the only reason we drafted him, but I think taking him on the basis of a workout and interview was not smart given what the rest of the draft looked like.

by Shogun on Jul 5, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, hopefully he's accurately valueing Flynn

and Flynn kicks ass this year. That’d be good.

by princelyfrank on Jul 5, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flynn Random Thoughts

1. Flynn’s showed a unique ability to get to the rim against Top Competition. 8.8 Times a game which along with his Free Throw Rate shows some pretty unique skills for a player his size (Allen Iverson/Nate Robinson). I use these guys as examples since they’re similar builds and play have been effective NBA players playing off the ball. I see no such similar skill-set in Point Guards drafted behind Flynn. Although as Shogun pointed out it’s right to question the value considering who was on the board?

2. There is no point in trading him unless you really like the offer. Kahn clearly holds him in high regard to the point that he’s not going to trade him for anything other than a desired package.

3. Rubio’s going to be over hear eventually. This is going to get worked out. He’s fine with the Market Size (He was willing to play in Sacramento or Oklahoma City), the Weather here is not that much worse than NYC. Where the Media says he wants to go. Take this in line with comments by his dad- there is very little doubt in my mind he suits up for the Wolves.

4. At first when they picked him I was upset. I figured a player like Curry that can really shot and move well without the ball was an ideal fit. Although the more I thought about it- the more open I am to the 2 Guard backcourt working long-term.

On Defense- Rubio’s long enough to guard 2’-When looking at the strengths of his Defense (Disrupting Passing Lanes, Off-Ball Defense) this could be the more ideal type of match ups for him at the Next Level. Where as Flynn can guard the quick penetrators.

On Offense- Flynn’s ability to get to the hoop gives him the ability to play off the ball as a I mentioned before inspite of his height. If he develops his jumper at all- he’s quick to be a dangerous Offensive player because of his speed and handles. He’s also going to be quite tough to defend off-the ball because of his speed. Where as Rubio’s skills need no explaination.

by Jose Cordoba on Jul 5, 2009 1:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You guys still don't think Flynn's our best Pg

Right now I’m gonna only compare him to Telfair because the other guys don’t have much of a chance.

I’ve been a Flynn fan since dropped 40+ in his very first ‘Cuse game and scoring at will, albeit against a crap team but isn’t that the way it’s supposed to be. So with that being said I’ve seen a lot of his college games.

It seems like a lot of people are worried about his defense as most of you know he played in a 2-3, but in some games they would switch to man-to-man at the end of tight games. Boeheim reasoning, Flynn’s man-to-man D specifically. One was in the championship game in a pre-season tournament last year where Flynn shut the other guard down at the end and they won.

His ability to finish seems like another one. He played in the Big-East with bodies like Thabeet, Adrian, Blair, Samuels ,not saying he finished on all those guys, but you get the idea he can absorb hits and follow through.

Also Flynn took Syracuse to the Sweet-16 with a line-up of Arinze Onuaku, Rick Jackson, Paul Harris, Eric Devendorf and Andy Rautins. Those are all mediocre college players and with the exception of maybe Rautins (because of his shooting ability) will never see much NBA action if at all.

Telfair on the other hand has accomplished nothing except for high-school. Yea he skipped college but so what. He has nothing to claim as why he should be a starting PG in the NBA. Telfair shot 38% from the field last year not from the 3 from the entire FIELD. He averaged 9 pts. and 3 assts. as our starter. All of that as his 4th year in the league and second year with the Wolves. As much as I hate to say it there is’nt much upside left with him.

As far as Rubio goes Flynn being the best point guard is because he most likely isn’t going to be here. But with that said I think the hype around Rubio is only that, hype. I mean the guy has no shot, he’s said to be able to finish but against soft Euro guys thats not really that great. Plus some scouts have given his “Softness” as one of his downsides, so is he really gonna be able to go to the hoop make contact with any NBA forward and finish the play? And I don’t think he’s quick enough to beat most starting point guards to the rim anyway. But everyone loves his passing, but when thats all you got it isn’t going to work as well. Passing lanes don’t open the same for a guy who’s not a scoring threat. But I’m not an idiot there’s a reason so many people had him as the number 2 prospect so there has to be something.

by Cudder on Jul 5, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good post

and better follow ups (follows up?). I hope you’re right, and my belief is that we’re going to have at least a year of Flynn at PG to review before Rubio gets on the court for the Wolves.

Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009

by PoorDick on Jul 5, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And from a basketball rather than instant gratification standpoint

that’s a great thing for a lot of reasons. I think we only trade Jonny if 1 Rubio makes it clear that he could come over now, but would only do so if Flynn isn’t there AND 2 we can get good value for Flynn.

It would probably be better to trade Flynn (if we were going to) in a year or two after he’s shown he can play well in the league, which I feel he’s going to do. I love his game. That’s the beauty of Rubio staying home for a year or two – Flynn gets a chance to develop and we and the rest of the league gets a chance to see what he can do. We can try him off the ball with Bassy at PG to see how he handles that, but without the same pressure that would exist if he were doing it with Rubio. If we decide we can’t live without him running the point, we get to trade the most wanted foreign prospect on the planet. If we decide he’s not the PG we need or that he can play off the ball just fine, we get Ricky Rubio. The odds of our coming out on top are very good.

by museum on Jul 5, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't disagree that Flynn could eventually..

…end up being the best point on the team but it’s more than just points and shooting percentages. For some strange reason Bassy lasted late into the season as the only Wolf with a positive +/-. When he was out there, the offense was better than when he was not (so was the defense compared to Foye if I remember correctly). It’s going to take time for him to adjust and Bassy, despite his poor shooting, is pretty good at running an offense at this point in his career. Probably not a starter, but a very good backup and someone who is more than capable of running things for long stretches. Does Flynn have the tools to become better than Bassy? Absolutely, but probably not out of the gate.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 5, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hmmph

BLATANT attempt to avoid a devaluation of the Bassy jerseys you bought for your kids. I TOLD you that you should just get ones with a erasable whiteboard where the numbers go, and in place of the name put “Undersized Point Guard.”;)

Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009

by PoorDick on Jul 5, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someday...

…they’ll be worth something ;)

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 5, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, a great marketing idea from PoorDick

You gotta put these on EBay…

Could be done in many team jerseys.

by timmuggs on Jul 5, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right?

And then for well-travelled journeymen, the last name would always be the same, but the team name would be easily eraseable.

Also, you should feed the mayo directly to the tuna fish! (Call Starkist).

Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009

by PoorDick on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More Flynn

Contrary to what The LMANICAS over at Blazers Edge tend to think- Free Throw Rate is a huge part of how effective an Offensive Player one can be. So I actually think Flynn’s 57%- TS% is actually quite solid for a PG in the Big East. He also had a very solid AST/TO Ration especially as Cudder points out in regard to not have elite Big-East surronding talent. I think part of Flynn’s appear as opposed to a Demar Derozan playing off Rubio is a vastly better ability to create for those around him. I must admit the more in depth stats- I see from Flynn’s game the more hopeful I become.

by Jose Cordoba on Jul 5, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outatanding Point S-n-P

Bassy is once again fighting for his NBA career. His shot improved over the course of the season as well. I don’t get how folks think Bassy is just gonna roll over and give away his minutes to these rooks.

It also amazes me how none of the beat writers have thought that it might be interesting to see how a young, former prodigy, incumbent starting PG with some talent in his own right is responding to all this.

by SFJ on Jul 5, 2009 6:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The dude's an afterthought here

I give him more credit than the average NBA observer, but Flynn should be better. Maybe not right away, and with no Ricky, Bassy should grace us with his presence quite a bit still. But I’d be disappointed if by the All Star break, Flynn wasn’t giving us a little more than Bassy, or at least showing signs of it. Bassy can run an offense better than most believe, but he shouldn’t be starting for anyone. Flynn should be able to elevate himself above that fairly quickly (I hope).

by museum on Jul 5, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't sleep on Bassy

forever. He has definitely improved over the last three years, at the position which I believe it takes the longest to “get it.” The kid had nothing but AAU and some HS experience (both of which were likely detrimental to his long-term PG skills) before hitting the pros, and then there’s no time to teach—just get it or get out.

He’ll never be an All Star, but I believe he’ll be a quality starter for a decent team by the time his career is up.

Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009

by PoorDick on Jul 5, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's also..

…still 23. I’m not saying he’s a core guy, but he’s better than what he gets credit for. He’s a capable backup point with the ability to fill in for starting minutes every now and then.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 5, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Point taken

He is only 23 and could get better, and I agree that PG is the toughest position to learn. I’d be interested to see some sort of analysis about which position has had the most late bloomers (I’m thinking Nash, Billups, plus a lot of lesser talent). But I’m still holding to my proposition that Flynn will be a bit better than Bassy this year, maybe for no other reason than blind optimism, but I really do like his game. Should be an interesting race for the All Rookie Team PG slots this year.

by museum on Jul 5, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of birthdays

if this upcoming season is reduced to Waiting for Rubio, you may want to pad your posts with profiles of Wolves players, coaches, and employees on their respective birthdays. See if they’ll answer a few questions in an interview, likes/dislikes, turn-ons/turn-offs (especially Wolves Dance Team [and I don’t mean Madsen]), etc . . .

Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009

by PoorDick on Jul 5, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you saying we start referring to MadDog..

….as an honorary member of the dance team? ;)

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jul 5, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some one with Photoshop skills

could easily recreate the frightening sight that your suggestion caused me to envision.

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by PoorDick on Jul 5, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you think...

Bassy’s trade value is? He’s a serviceable NBA PG who is 24, can still conceivably get better and on a very cap-friendly contract. Right now, it looks like he’s on a Brevin Knight trajectory, but I think he could very realistically become Rafer Alston, Chris Duhon or TJ Ford.

I say Kahn should be looking for a high first-round pick since most teams consider it a win when they grab a rotation-level player late in the first round.

If Ricky comes over, Bassy becomes a very expensive end-of-the-bench player. It would be necessary to move him, and motivated sellers don’t get fair market value. For that reason alone, it almost becomes worth moving him with or without Ricky here. Maybe you go Flynn/Brown/Woodside.

by SFJ on Jul 5, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Telfair

has improved in terms of orchestrating an offense, but otherwise, he really hasn’t improved much in terms of his individual production. And at some point, that lack of outside shooting, finishing, and ball-hawking severely constrains his impact to a team. He’s like a veteran backup QB option that won’t throw a ton of interceptions and is good in the huddle, but can never really carry a team on his shoulders. Flynn has the potential to be Telfair on steroids. Telfair should be our starter to begin the season (assuming Rubio doesn’t come over), but gradually Flynn should hopefully overtake him. Either way, he’ll see plenty of minutes.

by Rascal Flatts on Jul 5, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too true

but I’ll cut Bassy some slack for the McHale-Wittman-McHale coaching debacle, the Randy Foye at PG Experiment, fellow perimter players who were either well below par or Mike “Meh” Miller. Plus, previous to our own rebuilding, he was fortunate enough to be a part of both Portland and Boston’s rebuilding phases (so apparently trading Bassy is the first step to becoming a contender?).

Oh, and he turned 24 about a month ago.

Rooting for a Rubio Revolucion since roughly 10:20 a.m. on June 24th, 2009

by PoorDick on Jul 5, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have a little patience

I want to keep Flynn at least a year to see what he can do. It is imperative the Wolves end up with at least one top 15 PG from this PG heavy draft. The hardest spot to fill on a team (other than the big centers who are almost a thing of the past) is PG.
The Wolves spent most of the Garnett era trying to find a long term solution at PG, let’s not make the same mistake for the next decade. They have two candidates, let them battle it out on the court rather than in the front office. If the Wolves trade Flynn and Rubio is a bust the team will be ruined for another decade and probably sold and moved.
If they keep the assets they currently have (plus cap space), they will easily find a premiere SG either at the trade deadline in 2010 or next off season.
One step at a time, believe in the vision/plan!

by Rumblebee on Jul 5, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope FSNorth...

Shows some of Flynn’s college games this summer. Watching the ones they showed of Love last summer gave me a better idea of what to expect out of him last season.

by pagingstanleyroberts on Jul 5, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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