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12 days, 2900 miles, 42 different state license plates marked off the bingo list, 2 top-notch burger joints, 1 world-class chicken place, and several friends and family members later, the Stop-n-Pop clan is finally back in Minnesota. 

We started out in Omaha, NE where we visited with old friends and took in a performance of my brother's latest play, Martin McDonagh's The Pillowman (McDonagh is best known in America for his screenplay for the movie In Bruges). Mike (my brother) is part of an Omaha collaborative named the F-Troupe.  He played the part of the sick detective Tupolski and it was his best role to date.  The play was superbly acted with a minimalist production.  Unfortunately, its run ended on Sunday and you will simply have to take my word for it.   Actually, that's not completely true.  The guys ended up in the black and with good reviews from the local press.  In the theater world that is just about as much as one can ask for.  Mike will now return to working as a stage director at the Rose Theater and dating roller girls.  I will make sure to feature the F-Troupe's next production.  Oh, we also got to catch a celebrity basketball game with Dwyane Wade at Omaha North.

After Omaha we made the long trip down to Oklahoma to visit more family and friends.  We drove all over the state and I was introduced to the wonderful world of feral hog hunting.  Ladies and Gents, if you have never seen a feral hog, let me tell you that it is most definitely not something you want to run across on a regular basis.  Apparently, large pigs have been escaping from hog farms and going feral within a matter of weeks.  These non-native feral hogs then proceed to eat everything in site, destroy property, and harass humans.  The solution to this problem is, apparently, to train two bulldogs to have a taste for pig ears and to walk out into the country with said dogs, a hunting rifle, and, perhaps, a beer or two. 

In theory the hunt is supposed to go like this: The dogs will sniff out and lock on to the ears of a feral hog, dragging it to the ground and not letting go.  At this point the hunters (us) will walk up to the scene, blow a whistle to release the dogs, and then shoot the large pig as many times as possible until it stops moving.  In practice, we released the hounds, watched them run off into the brush, yelp a few times, and run back to us followed by a 4-5 foot long, 300lbs black feral hog with a hankering to do some damage to the stunned guys with guns and beers.  Did you know it is possible to climb a tree with your hands full?  Neither did I. 

Other highlights from the trip included a long drive on Route 66 from Yukon to Clinton, OK where we ate an onion-fried hamburger at Sid's and visited the Route 66 Museum; the best chicken dinner of my entire life at Stroud's in Kansas City (seriously, it is the best chicken in the country); a quick stop at the "home" of John Wilkes Booth's killer; a trip to the largest all-black town in American history (Boley); and a visit to a WWII POW camp for German prisoners in El Reno, OK.  Memphis was its usual wonderful self and St. Louis was a tad more run-down than I previously remember.

In terms of food and sight-seeing recommendations, I highly suggest Stroud's, Sid's (go to the one in Yukon, not El Reno; the one in Yukon has better burgers and it is run by an Elvis impersonator), and the Cozy Inn in Salina, KS.  Stroud's was legitimately one of the top 2-3 meals I have had in my lifetime and the Cozy Inn is the home of the slider. The Cozy Inn features a grill that has been in use since the 1920s....and yes, that means it tastes really, really good.  I also suggest a trip to the National Cowboy Hall of Fame in OKC as well as a detour to the Stax Museum of American Soul Music in Memphis.

OK, enough with our vacation.  A lot has happened in Wolves-land since we left.  They signed Ryan Hollins, they hired Kurt Rambis, Ricky Rubio is still in Spain.  The Hollins signing is an interesting transaction that we will go into in more depth in a later post (preview: it's a fantastic move).  I'd also be lying to you if I said that I knew the first thing about Rambis' coaching style or locker room abilities. 

What I do want to say is that David Kahn is juggling a lot of balls right now and we really can't judge how he is doing until some of this stuff plays out.  In many ways he's doing an Obama-esque job.  He came in with a platform of change and he has done some really good things but until we know how some of his more major moves play out (Rubio = health care, cap space = the war in Iraq...you get the picture) we really can't tell if change is change or if it is simply another way of making sure everything stays the same.  I wish I could say it boiled down to something more than "we'll just have to wait and see" but that's it.  Sure, we'll have to sit and watch guys like Jim Souhan play the part of the angry paid mob descending on the health care forums, but there really isn't anything to see here yet. We need to see if Rambis can coach, if the cap space can be spent, and if the draft picks will work out.  Change is possible but it is still dependent on additional moves and a bit of luck. 

Well, that about does it for now.  I should be back in the swing of things in a day or so and we'll then get ready to roll out our season preview, an updated Building a Winner series (hint: Rudy Gay!), and some more Lynx coverage.

Until later.

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Kahn released a letter about Rambis that stated we will be running an up tempo fast breaking offense. We may not be awesome this year but we will be more exciting to watch.

I can not wait for Wolves basketball for the first time in a long time.

by Cobra312004 on Aug 10, 2009 11:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Stop-n-Who?

Oh…Stop-n-Pop. Yeah, I remember you…I think. It’s hazy…

Welcome back.

by Eric in Madison on Aug 10, 2009 11:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I would LOVE Rudy Gay as a Timberwolf.

I’ve thought this for some time now. Him or Andre Iguodala.

Stop-n-Pop, I can’t wait to read an awesome, thoroughly analytical and statistically backed-up blog about what wonders Rudy Gay would do for the Wolves, get all excited about just the thought of it… and then be bummed out when it never happens…

by LoveTo on Aug 11, 2009 12:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I’ll save SnP the trouble of breaking down what Gay would bring: volume scoring, tunnel vision and untold frustration at his lack of effort and ability to be as good as his talent suggests? That’s my call..

Not that he’s without value, but he’s going to command much more than he’s worth, IMO. Unless the Woofs can get him for something in line with his value, like a deal starting around 8 million, call me a homophobe.

Jennings: F*** the Knicks, them n***** is always going to be weak.

by Xand1 on Aug 11, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

so ur building a winner post is going to be gay?

by revprodeji on Aug 11, 2009 2:02 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

? from last thread...

I just posted a question on the previous, but wanted make sure you saw it…RE: your claim that we had a MEM offer on the table…

Could we have had Rudy Gay+ from MEM?

If so, I wish we’d have pulled the trigger. I honestly think Al’s production will be easier to replace than people think…to say nothing of the fact that his style of play is limiting to his teammates. And I know that, THEORETICALLY, a low post presence should produce open perimeter shits…but that really only works if the big man occasionally passes out of the double and triple team.

by DougW on Aug 11, 2009 6:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Permeter shots?

Guessing that’s what you meant.

Gay would be a nice get, but not in a million years for Al. Scoring isn’t everything, but you have to get buckets. Al can get buckets in a major way. A lot of teams would love to have a guy you can dump it into on the block. He’s only 24, and has plenty of room to continue to improve.

If we continue to upgrade our roster, things should get easier for him. I can’t remember many times when a guard got him an easy bucket like Jonny Flynn should be able to. I think the “occasionally passes” is a caricature. He did pass out of doubles, he just took it against doubles/triples at times which had something to do with confidence in the shooters. In that case, you don’t get rid of the bucket-getter with great post moves – upgrade your wings (without moving Al).

by Punisher#8 on Aug 11, 2009 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes, shots :)

Not my best typing effort.

I’ll agree Gay for Al is not a great deal, but Gay and a useful piece or two would be enough for me.

I know that I am in the minority on this one, but I do think that Jefferson’s low post abilities and stats have caused the majority of Wolves fans to overrate his true value. My gut feeling, since about the third month he joined the team, is that he is he is a very limited player…extremely skilled and talented in a few aspects of the game, but ultimately flawed, stats focused and selfish. He can probably put up 23 and 12 for the next 6-7 years, but I have doubts that he can do it on a winning team.

That is why I am not opposed to trading him for slightly less talent or a less “rare” type talent that would be a better fit for the overall roster. I think Gay wold fit that bill.

by DougW on Aug 11, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are vastly vastly overrating Gay and underrating Al if you think Gay could even be a centerpiece in an Al Jefferson deal.

Guys: Rudy Gay is not that good. He COULD be good, but he’s not yet, nor does his current career trajectory suggest that he’s a total stud in the making. To make it even worse, his superficial stats will make it hard to sign him for what he’s actually worth. He scores a lot but does it inefficiently and with tunnel vision.

A guy who runs one of my brother’s fantasty leagues works for the Grizz and sees all of their games and really doesn’t like Gay. Take it for what it’s worth, but he’s thrown good info our way before and seems to really know the team (for example, he liked Conley a lot before he broke out). We need to temper our enthusiasm here and look deeper at his game before getting too excited about the guy.

Jennings: F*** the Knicks, them n***** is always going to be weak.

by Xand1 on Aug 11, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

fine, fine, fine

Call it a ‘Gay’ type. It doesn’t need to be him specifically, just a long athletic 2-3 that can get up and down the floor and give you 18+ a night, while playing good defense. Is that too much to ask for? I think not.

It’s our primary need, and yes I would trade Jefferson to fill it, especially if we can add another piece (back up big?).

by DougW on Aug 11, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha, and I’m with you 100% in a general sense. This team’s going to need a long, athletic defensive 3 in a big way I think. Luckily there seems to be a few of them in next year’s draft.. Paul George would be a great fit, for example. Kind of reminds me of Tayshaun Prince – long, good athleticism, plays D and can hit from outside to boot.

Jennings: F*** the Knicks, them n***** is always going to be weak.

by Xand1 on Aug 11, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll admit my knowledge of Gay is mostly of the box score variety. I mean who here honestly watches a lot of Grizz games.

That may be part of his appeal, he puts up nice numbers, appears to be extremely athletic, with loads of potential….yet somehow seems attainable. If your source is correct, he’s attainable for a reason.

But you get the point.

Now, all that said…I don’t think we can expect to receive a total stud for Jefferson. His lack of defense and passing reluctance appears to be pretty common knowledge around the league, based on what I’ve read. Charlie Rosen compared him to Zach Randolph the other day on Fox Sports…not a new point in these parts, but it is a little disturbing that it seems to be gaining validity as Al enters his 6th season.

It’s entirely possible that a #3 option and a solid bench player might be his trade value.

by DougW on Aug 11, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear you re: Gay, but if you look deeper I think you’ll see what I do. He’s not efficient and, from what I hear, suffers from the one malady that can stop a guy with his skills and toolset from becoming a stud: lack of effort. Not a fan, at least not for what he’s likely going to cost .

As to Big Al: anyone who compares him to Randolph after what he was doing last season is just an idiot. Not much more I can say than that.

He may never be a superstar, but he’s not a shot-happy bonehead who doesn’t even try defensively like Randolph. He’s also 24 and a legit 23/11 big man who can create his own shot pretty much at will and appears capable of continuing to improve.. I really think we have to give him a chance with 1) a real coach and 2) a real team before thinking of giving up on him. If we do, we can get more than Rudy Gay +, but we can worry about that when the time comes. It’s way too early right now.

Jennings: F*** the Knicks, them n***** is always going to be weak.

by Xand1 on Aug 11, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I personally do not like Gay much. SnP is a bigger fan. But Al Jefferson is much more value than Gay alone. Which is why it would not have been Gay alone. OKC had a sweet deal on the table, but I would have hated to be the one that put Jefferson on the same team as Durant.

As fans we underrated or overrate our own players. I fear that we are underrating Jefferson because he is not kg. Jefferson is very rare, young, and on a friendly deal. We should not be looking to move him. For me, I would need a similarly dynamic wing player of the same age. No “package” where the talent is diluted.

by revprodeji on Aug 11, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree entirely. We underrate Al because we’re convincing ourselves he plays zero D and never passes. Realistically he’s OK, with waning effort, defensively and isn’t as bad a passer he’s made out to be. He gets shot-happy from time to time, but he’s also never had competent players around him. Until I get to see him with a legit stud or two around him I think the idea of moving him is ridiculous.

Any details as to what was on the table from OKC? Westbrook + Green? Westbrook + their pick? No Westbrook at all?

Jennings: F*** the Knicks, them n***** is always going to be weak.

by Xand1 on Aug 11, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with this line of thinking.

Would add on the “he’s not KG” portion: there are things KG could do that Al never will (caliber of defense). There are things Al may develop into that KG could never do (clutch scoring).

Let’s let it play out and be opportunistic in adding talent on the wing.

by Punisher#8 on Aug 11, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’d love to be proven wrong on Al’s trade value. Please, please spill the beans on the MEM and OKC offers!!!

by DougW on Aug 11, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't Blame Me

You’re not making any points- I haven’t made before.

by Jose Cordoba on Aug 11, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling the Rudy Gay debate will get intense around these parts.

Just to be clear I’m not planning on protesting outside SNP’s house- yet.

by Jose Cordoba on Aug 11, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaaahhh

Stock markets are slowly moving up again, our escaped prisoners are back in custody, Kim Clijsters is coming back to tennis and SnP is back in town …. all is well again

We got Rubio!

by Wim (Belgium) on Aug 11, 2009 5:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Little Kim's making a comeback!

She has always been a favorite over here after having the good sense to leave Lleyton Hewitt.

Only cowards pray for rain.

by Auswolf on Aug 11, 2009 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tough

What he got in place of her isn’t too shabby either …

Home & Away, the best Australian-export product ever ;)

We got Rubio!

by Wim (Belgium) on Aug 12, 2009 5:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

FERAL hogs? Shooting FERAL ones??

Hmm.

Let me just say, 42 states is pretty inadequate. Not getting Delaware, that I can understand. But eight states short? That’s a lack of effort.

You get yourself a sticker book to keep track, and inside of a couple of weeks you ought to have the Northwest Territory polar bear-shaped plates. I’ve notched those before.

by feral on Aug 11, 2009 6:51 AM CDT reply actions  

The real sad thing...

…is that we did not see a single plate from Ohio. Apparently, all roads out of the state were closed over the past week and a half. We did see a few Mexican plates, 3 Canadian provinces, and 5 Native American nation tags. Best of all, we saw Alaska in St. James, MN. We missed the aforementioned Ohio as well as Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Delaware, West Virginia, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island.

And yes, the feral pigs are a menace ;) Apparently they have been declared a year-round significant threat and it’s pretty much anything-goes when it comes to hunting them. No license is needed and it’s gotten to the point in some areas where you pretty much have to carry a gun with you if you are going out in the field. Apparently, the big problem is that some of these hogs are from hog farms that pride themselves on pumping out ridiculously-sized animals for human consumption. They get loose and go nuts; eating anything and everything while quickly becoming trap-wise and aggressive. Here’s a picture of one in Wisconsin:

Right now, their eradication is dependent on individual landowners and farmers. They don’t seem to be able to keep up with how these things breed. I’ve read that a wild sow can ween 10-12 piglets a year. They’re like big, angry, hungry rats…who will take a run at people if need be.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
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by Stop-n-Pop on Aug 11, 2009 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow..

Those pigs look like Rodents of Unusual Size.

by Krotz the Wall on Aug 11, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Jennings: F*** the Knicks, them n***** is always going to be weak.

by Xand1 on Aug 11, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Local challenge

Holy cow, I had no idea they’d go so hirsute. It’s like Jeff Goldblum was right in Jurassic Park — life will find a way, and the mad scientists who re-produced Archaeotherium are going to get what’s comin’ to them.

Hawaii’s always a pleasure, but my personal favorite car feature isn’t a license plate. It’s the remarkably phallic “Dodge of Burnsville” emblem. Every time I see one of those beauts, I wince and smile at the same time. I even stop to take its portrait once in a while:

by feral on Aug 11, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

glad you made it back

The second you started talking about feral hogs I started to worry about you. Can you imagine going old skool and taking one out with a lance?

by TMiss on Aug 11, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think...

…hog tusk would reach human before lance reached pig. I’d hate to cross one of those suckers without a gun. We laughed about it at the time but it was a genuinely scary experience. It’s gotten so bad with the hogs that we had to set up motion-sensitive cameras in a tree near their watering hole so that we know when we have to take the 4-wheeler out and go get them. Each night the sensor went off 2-3 times.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
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by Stop-n-Pop on Aug 11, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Souhan is an Idiot

Okay, I don’t like the guy at all. But, his non-stop piling on the T-Wolves this summer is ridiculous. I mean, what does he expect? That the Wolves were supposed entice Kobe to opt out and come to Minnesota, and bring Phil Jackson with him? That the Wolves should trade Madsen and Cardinal for Dwyane Wade? I’m not understanding his line of thought. I was skeptical about Kahn when he was hired (who was he?), but he’s enacted change. We’ll see how it turns out, right, but from where I’m sitting, he’s given the hardcores a reason to hope. Perhaps in a couple of years, the casual fans will be back, too. They weren’t coming back the way things had been going, that’s for sure.

Pining for a Troy Hudson/Marko Jaric backcourt.

by SBG on Aug 11, 2009 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Souhan..

…is one of the guys that has really made me rethink my stance on the media. I’ve gone from thinking there is some sort of ideological cabal to believing that laziness, deadlines, and the willingness to go with whoever calls back first drives 95% of the paper’s content. I also think that Kahn really rubs some of these guys the wrong way because he thinks as much about the media (in a legitimately effective/productive way) as they do about their sporting subjects: i.e. he looks down on them with a certain amount of contempt.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com

by Stop-n-Pop on Aug 11, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ay SnP mayn

how wuz chiefin on de kill on dat road trip? hopefully 5-0 didnt sweat yall too hard mayn u betta uv been bumpin dat Rotha

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Aug 11, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Kahn = Obama

Obama is obviously the president and has the Federal Judicial and Legislature branches of power to work with. Kahn as the GM of Timberwolves actually has more authority and decision making with owner Taylor in background. A better correlation may be the lack of experience either had before their current respective positions. Actually, Kahn comes out ahead there too.

by justintime on Aug 11, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

my point

is that Kahn has more authority in his basketball world than the Pres does in his political world!

by justintime on Aug 11, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome back. You missed Jim Pete give a shout out to this site (and you in particular) on KFAN.

by jianfu on Aug 11, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

that's very cool

the guy is a complete class act and that means a lot to me.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com

by Stop-n-Pop on Aug 11, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

do you know what show it was on?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Aug 11, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The PA show; can’t remember what day. They were touching on the WNBA and Jim Pete appreciated your posts about that league.

by jianfu on Aug 11, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

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