Wolves sign Pavlovic to 1 year deal (Yahoo!)
by littleboxes on Sep 15, 2009 7:30 PM CDT
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PrintAfter completing a buyout with the Phoenix Suns on Tuesday, guard Sasha Pavlovic has agreed in principle on a one-year, $1.5 million contract with the Minnesota Timberwolves, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Pavlovic’s role with the Cavaliers diminished last season. The Timberwolves’ new coach, Kurt Rambis, was a big proponent of signing Pavlovic, a source said.
Thoughts? Reactions? Much of this already in the "significant move" thread, but thought I'd give it the Ol' Fan Post.
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Well...
I guess we’ve added some size and shooting on the wing. Pavs has a pretty poor PER if I’m not mistaken.
I wouldn’t have called it “significant” but it does balance out the roster a little more.
Who is going to see minutes on the wing? I hope Sessions and Flynn play ALL the PG minutes available. Pavs, Ellington, Brewer, Gomes, Wilkins. Who starts?
I still think his "significant" might have been something else
And then this just kinda came along. We still have Chucky Atkins which I think will be huge for us… well, as huge as 2-3M can be.
Also
I mentioned this in the other thread, but I would be willing to take a look at Morris Almond. He would be cheap and did extremely well in DLeague. He is a great outside shooter and would really help us with that as well as filling 15mpg or so at the 2.
Almond
The roster is at 15 right now. Blount could get cut, or Atkins, but I think we’re nearing the end.
Sessions is going to see some time at the 2 and now with Pavlovic and Ellington (as well as guys like Daniels and Wilkins), we’ve got enough to cover the minutes. Brewer can play there as well.
Almond has some potential, but at this point I’d put all of the developmental minutes into Ellington. I’m a little worried at this point that he’s already going to be pushed back to far in the rotation.
I can definitely see that
I was just throwing the name out there as someone who would fit in our long-term plans if he panned out. Throw him a 1yr minimum offer (probably gets beat, but just in case!) and see what happens. Blount and Atkins are both likely to get cut so there is definitely some space. Then we could move Pavlovic and Brewer over to the three permanently unless the situation calls for them. Just an idea, I don’t know if I am sold on it and I dont know much about Almond except he broke his own DLeague scoring record and has a nice shot. About Ellington again though, the rookie wall is gonna catch up with him and Flynn quick if we are an up-tempo team especially.
I like the signing
Pavlovic is servicably off the bench..although he might start….good defensively
by TonyO on Sep 15, 2009 8:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Pavlovic looks just bad enough that if he plays lots of minutes he shouldn’t jeopardize a high lottery pick. Not expecting anything “significant” but to label this “significant” seems like a stretch. If he can shoot the at a 40% clip I suppose he can help space the floor and play the role of shooter in our version of the Magic/Kareem lakers fast break-halfcourt hybrid offense.
Significant
With only 15 roster spots, is any signing significant?
I suppose we can likely count on Pavlovic to play a “significant” amount of minutes seeing as how Rambis apparently was pining for him and he’ll be playing for his next contract and likely went to the place where he could play the most minutes.
I guess with the all the Cavs games on TV the past couple years, whenever I saw Pavlovic with the ball I always thought “If only the Cavs had someone better than Pavlovic on the wing opposite LeBron.”
If we could get him into that
Bowen/Battier type mold where he just plays above average defense and hits the shot when called upon, he will be a valuable asset.
get him
If for no other reason that his 4-letter player page says “Birthplace: Bar”. Born in a bar – he must be one tough dude.
Seriously, he will do well in an uptempo offense, be the Wolves best outside shooter (not saying much), and provide good defense and rebound a bit from the wing.
The only problem is I see him as slightly redundant to Ryan Gomes. Pavlovich is a better shooter, but Gomes’ all-around game is better.
The Wolves desperately need shooters, though.
I say Get Him.
LOL!
I noticed the bar thing and laughed out loud.
I see Pavlovic as a 2/3 and Gomes more as a 3/4.
by callmeishmael on Sep 15, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Not best outside shooter
Put me on the record right now for saying that Ellington will prove to be our best outside shooter this year. Sasha’s role is to be a serviceable veteran who can play defense when Ellington is either overwhelmed or because of the matchup. No one is going to ask Pavolic to jack up 4 or 5 three’s a night, they’re going to ask him to play good defense on opposing 2’s and 3’s for 15-20 minutes a night. Ellington is more likely to be greenlighted on 4-5 three’s a night while learning how to play the game in 15-20 minutes a night.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Sep 15, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
But can't Wilkins fill the role of veteran wing defender?
I don’t get this signing….Kahn seemed to have overthought this one a little bit. Why not just stay pat (unless some great offer comes along) and do some of the housecleaning he said he was going to do. I’d hardly call this “significant”.
by Rascal Flatts on Sep 15, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He probably shouldn't have called this significant
Wilkins is awful- where as Pavlovic is a decent backup wing. Sasha’s better on both ends of the court.
by Jose Cordoba on Sep 15, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking at their numbers,
they are equally underwhelming. I don’t see $1.5M worth of value out of Sasha, sorry. This was a totally unnecessary signing in my opinion.
by Rascal Flatts on Sep 16, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a plus-defender who can be a capable three-point shooter.
The singing might be unneccessary- at the same time- his skill set fits with the teams the team’s three biggest needs: Perimeter Depth, Perimeter Defense, and Outside Shooting.
by Jose Cordoba on Sep 16, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Consistency
I’d hardly book Pavs as a reliable outside shooter. Sure, he hit a decent rate last year, but look at the year before. 29%!? And that’s with an even better sample size. He’s up and down, inconsistent, and hardly someone that is going to add much value this year. Do I think Kahn has done permanent damage on the franchise? Of course not, but this feels like over-engineering. Let Brew, Wilkins, Ellington, and Gomes hold down the fort for a year. We know the wing is a huge concern overall, but Sasha really does nothing to solve this problem in the long run.
by Rascal Flatts on Sep 16, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
He's been over 36%
4 out of the last 5 years. He’s also been over 40% 2 of the last 3. The one year he shot 29%- he had a foot injury. If he doesn’t pan out? Fine- no big loss. If he does develop- he’s got the type of skills that could play a role 2-3 years down the line. He’s got more value than Carney or Wilkins.
by Jose Cordoba on Sep 17, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not significant
But it helps. I think the number of open shots created through drive-and-kick and postups will be significantly higher than last year, and it helps to have another guy who can make those shots.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Sep 15, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions
Best part of the article:
The New York Knicks were also interested in signing Pavlovic.
LOL!
I can smell DaJoka from here…
Ticks all the boxes
Outside shot, cheap deal, one year.
Now ditch Chucky and Blount and start training.
Judd: "...I've since watched some Steven Seagal movies and I realise that pressure points are no laughing matter.".
by Auswolf on Sep 15, 2009 10:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Gotta love Britt Robson
Britt was 2-for-2 on move predictions in his blog article about Sessions. The last paragraph mentioned Daniels and Pavlovic as possibilities to round out the roster.
PG: Sessions/Flynn/Daniels
SG: Pavlovic/Ellington/Wilkins
SF: Brewer/Gomes
PF: Love/ Pecherov
C: Jefferson/ Hollins
I really like how Kahn spent the entire summer destroying the team, ripping it down to just a core, while creating flexibility for the future.
And then, once the Rubio matter was settled, he has significantly improved the product on the floor this season (not enough to come anywhere close to contending, obviously, but enough to be as good as last year) without sacrificing any of said flexibility.
seriously
Sessions easily replaces and exceeds Foye (except for the 3 point shot). No one really replaces Mike Miller but…don’t get me started. Jefferson is back and hopefully healthy, Love should be better, Gomes is still here. I think they actually have a decent shot to be a bit better than last year. We shall see…
by littleboxes on Sep 15, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Daniels will do a decent job of replacing
Miller’s disregard for his body. Washington fans really enjoyed having him on their team while he was there so thats something nice to hear. And obviously he isnt the shooter that Miller is, then again, neither was Miller.
If everyone stays healthy
not only do it think they will be as good as last year (not too hard to do) but I think they will be a lot more enjoyable to watch. Kahn knows changes needed to be made and his hasn’t let us down there.
by Funkle Jesse on Sep 16, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
starting lineup
what do you think the starting lineup will be this year? i think
sessions
brewer/ellington/pavs
gomes
love
jefferson
tell me what ya think?
Something like that, yes.
I would like to see a Flynn/Sessions starting backcourt, only out of curiosity, and because I want to see Flynn play starter’s minutes (for selfish reasons, I’ll admit — I think he’s going to be a lot of fun to watch).
agreed
i agree completly, flynn is gonna be great to watch, personally i am really excited for hollins i know hes only a 10 to 15 mpg player but i think he is gonna be a real up tempo guy that will give us some boost
giddens
anybody heard anything about getting jr giddens? i heard that we could trade atkins and wilkins for him… I WANT BILL WALKER!
The celtics are nit handing over Bill Walker
for any of the flotsam and jetsam we are trying to move.
And Scalabrine….. Errgh.
Judd: "...I've since watched some Steven Seagal movies and I realise that pressure points are no laughing matter.".
by Auswolf on Sep 16, 2009 1:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He's terrible
Not excited. But he’s a warm body who fills a need. That need being someone who can jack up shots, hopefully not too often in his case, and collect a paycheck. Someone off the bench has to do it.
I think the significant thing just ment that it was gonna be something that brought us a player that’s gonna play for us … instead of a trade that ’s made just for the salary side of things (which, to the “regular” fan is unsignificant/uninteresting).
I like this signing. It nicely fills out the roster and I think it gives some nice friendly competition to keep Brewer on top of his game. Both are 2-3’s, both are mostly defensive players and need to find some consistency in their offensive game (though their offensive games are very different) and both are playing for their contract next year (assuming they don’t pick up Brew’s option).
1,5mil @ 1 year looks like a nice deal.
We got Rubio!
brighten up....
I don’t get this….yes Sasha was a throw away from CLE but he "was" a nice player before he tried to get his first pay day a little early. He can stretch the floor with the J and also put the ball on the floor…considering we all saw Wally do the first well and the last horrible, MAYN HOL UP! He plays D and while he doesn’t have Brewer’s stringy length, he is not as skinny and grabs rebounds in traffic. He also ran the floor well when Lebron and Gibson ran….he can help bring up the ball without provoking the edge of your seat drama that Corey does. I am by all means not ready to give up on Brew but the underwhelming response of "at least he will play on the team and doesn’t save money" and I don’t drink Kahn aid is funny to me. McHale probably makes one trade and FA move a decade and we have someone who actually makes sense and adds a cheap person that we needed…
Sasha was a good player and doubt he has regressed to the level of what some are mentioning…he is young and athletic3/tall 2 – for 1.5 mill. Of course he will not score 20 and shut everyone down, but he is a much needed win/win for the team and player.
Sasha just asked from money at the wrong time…
It's really about perspective
Just because he was inconsistent for a 66-win team doesn’t mean he can’t contribute to a team who will likely win 1/3 to 1/2 as many. Would he be the guy to sign to put a championship contender over the top? No, but he can make Flynn and Sessions more effective on the dribble-drive and Jefferson more effective in the post as well as play decent D.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Sep 16, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Flip him later
Kahn isn’t averse to trading his players (obviously) and Pavlovic could look pretty good to a contender looking to add depth at the deadline. His salary would matchup with someone with a 1st round draft pick rookie contract on a contender who is buried and unlikely to get playing time in the near future.
Why Rambis likes Sasha
is beyond me, but I think it will really help Sasha to have a coach that is pulling for him.
Maybe he will blossom. His shooting ability is not suspect. His defense needs some fine tuning, but is also one of his assets. Putting it all together with a winner’s attitude seems to be what’s missing.
I won’t propose any Kool-Aid toasts, but at least I think I see a glimmer of hope.
On the other hand, I’d have been far, far, happier bringing on Garret Stiles. On the right team that is willing to take the time to develop him and get his weight to a competitive level, Stiles can become a solid “5” in a couple of years. Solid, contributing big men are rare. Guys like Pavlovic are abundant.
Siler signed already with Atlanta after the summer league, and frankly, has a lot more chance at getting minutes with the Smith Brothers and Horford as his competition. The Wolves will play Love, Jefferson, Hollins, and Gomes ahead of him at the 4 this season if he chose to sign here instead. Yes he was on the Wolves summer league team, but I think he looked at the opportunity in Atlanta and jumped on the offer.
Either way, he isn’t available to bring on at this point, so Pavlovic’s signing has nothing to do with Siler.
When you said Stiles
I couldn’t get Teen Wolf out of my head. I’ve now just wasted fifteen minutes watching clips on the net. Well done.
Good points, but taken a bit too far
His ball-handling and rebounding can only be considered weaknesses at this point. Other than that though, you nailed it.
Out with the old, in with TONS of new
In a contract type year, I believe he might be full of suprises and really carve a spot in the permanent roster for years to come.
But if it's only cuz its a contract year
Then I don’t think I would want him for years to come, unless it was all one years or non-guaranteed.
Sasha vs. Brewer
This is an unnecessary signing that takes valuable minutes away from Brewer and Ellington, two guys I’d like to see get some nice burn this year. I’m sure both will be in the rotation, but I just don’t see the value-add of Pavs taking some of their minutes. What does he offer that the two of those guys collectively don’t offer? By the way, here are the comps on Pavs vs. Brewer. It’s a small sample size for Brewer, but still…
this is why
competition for a spot on the 2010 roster and beyond
Because, as nice as it sounds, we can’t afford to let all our extra-young players play 36 minutes a game this year. We wouldn’t win 15 games, and it may even be harmful to those players’ development.
It’s why we signed Sessions, “taking minutes away” from Flynn. The youngsters will benefit more from playing reasonable minutes on a somewhat competitive team than from playing the entire game and being the worst team in the league by a solid margin.
Sessions, Daniels, Pavlovic, they’re all brought in to create competition for minutes, which will help the team win more games. I see it as a good thing that these rookies and Brewer won’t be handed unlimited minutes.
Disagree
Sessions is a bad example because he is a top 15 PG with upside to boot and we know that Kahn plans on playing him and Flynn together for stretches. In terms of the minutes, I don’t think Flynn, Ellington, or Brew needed to play 36 minutes per game without the presence of Sasha:
PG – Sessions 20, Flynn 28
SG – Brewer 16, Sessions 16, Ellington 16
SF – Gomes 32, Brewer 12, Wilkins 4 (mostly spot minutes)
This is not an unreasonable distribution for a team looking to rebuild and develop players. Gomes and Sessions are the only ones getting more than 30 minutes per game.
by Rascal Flatts on Sep 16, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The EvilProfessor put up a fanpost on minutes
Your minutes aren’t unreasonable, but Gomes 32 at SF is tough to swallow – lots of minutes and he gets no burn at the 4.
Also, on some nights the rookies are going to completely stink. And somebody will have to eat 10-15 minutes. And I’m fine with Wilkins never seeing the floor.
So Pav can get couple from Sessions and Brew, 4 from Flynn, Ell, and Wilkins, and free up 8 for Gomes to play the 4. So, he fits and is much needed depth – we don’t need to play Wilkins or stretch Flynn or Ellington, and Gomes can get some time at the 4.
Again, not unreasonable (what you propose) but pretty constrained. Hopefully be the end of the season it will look like that (minus Wilkins).
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Gomes
Although playing him 32 mins at the SF might be tough to swallow, what option do we have? OK, let’s give Pavs some of those minutes, but as TEP’s chart points out, he has a worse net PER than even Gomes does! So what difference does it make if we spread the mediocrity around an additional player?
In terms of Gomes at the 4, I frankly never want to see him play there again. Our defense always suffers when he’s at the 4 compared to the 3. If Gomes is going to find a niche in this league, he’s going to have to follow the lead of James Posey, Shane Battier, and Bruce Bowen – offensively limited players that became defensive subject matter experts and very solid 3-pt shooters. If he can slim down a bit and learn how to lock down opposing wings, he could be a big time help to a team in the playoff mix.
by Rascal Flatts on Sep 16, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
The option is to...
…sign a competent player with a defined set of NBA skills (like defense and outside shooting) for a year at $1.5M. And at least he is young enough that if he does fit the system and prosper he can be re-signed.
I am not arguing that we’re winning the West in 2012 with Pav being our 6th man or SF starter, or that Gomes can log heavy minutes at the 4. But the minutes you assign are a little heavy and thin – Ellington and Flynn will have nights where they can’t do anything right. Do we really want Wilkins out there? And at the 4-5 once you get past Al and Love who gets the other 30 minutes? Hollins is unlikely to get near 20. So you want Blount to play? Or Pech to get 12? Ouch. Cardinal? Ouch. Gomes can play limited minutes at the 4, especially with an uptempo team.
I get your point entirely, and at the end of the season I hope Ellington can excel in 16 minutes every night – every night – and that Flynn can hit 28 productive minutes – every night and that Hollins can play 20 -every night. Until that happens, and optimist though I am, it aint gonna happen, we can use a cheap player who has been a productive role player on winning teams and has the 2 skills we need – wing D and hitting the 3. Again, I get your point, but once you get down to where the minutes go it gets harder to say ‘throw the rookies out there and play Brewer for 30, and forget Gomes at the 4.’ It really does.
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Gotcha
Yeah, I’ll begrudgingly admit he gives us some cushion with the rooks, but still….
And on Cardinal, I know the PER differential sucks, but damn, we played some of our best ball when he was in the game last year: http://www.82games.com/0809/08MIN9.HTM#onoff
And you know what? Go back and look at past years. In nearly every single season, Cardinal has a positive net +/-. He’s sort of a poor man’s Shane Battier: Good things happen when he’s on the floor, production metrics like PER be damned. I’d have him be Love’s primary backup at the 4 in a heartbeat.
PF – Love 32, Cardinal 12, Big Al 4
C – Big Al 30, Hollins 18
by Rascal Flatts on Sep 16, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I like what Cardinal did last year
But it seems like another question hasn’t been asked: if Gomes is a part of this team’s future, what positions will he be playing? I’d argue that he’d be a 3 and 4 because he can do some damage offensively in small lineups and because he’s going to have trouble guarding quicker players. In that sense, Pavlovic is necessary because it puts Gomes in a more realistic position. Maybe Cardinal as the backup wins them more games next year, but Pavlovic sliding Gomes to play those minutes instead gives the staff an idea of whether that works for them going forward. Going back to the Posey example, Boston had success with him at the 4 in small lineups and faced problems last season because there was no one to replace him in that role.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Sep 16, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Already seen that movie
Gomes has been sliding between the 3 and 4 for the past two years in Minnesota with mediocre results, so I’m not sure what else there is to learn. Generally speaking, he is worse defensively as a 4 and we’re sometimes better off offensively with him as a 4. I’m not sure what else there is to learn or show other teams. To me, Gomes should focus on slimming down a bit and carve out a niche as a complimentary 3 that can defend other 3’s and hit the open 3 pointer. I think he’s close. He has the strength to defend the Paul Pierce and LeBrons of the world and has shown flashes of lateral foot speed to take on some of the quicker wings. Granted, that doesn’t fit our long-term vision of a 3 that can slash, run, and jump. But to me it’s a value proposition that other teams would be willing to trade for.
by Rascal Flatts on Sep 17, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Two different staffs
Fans have seen what Gomes did as a 4 under Wittman (not as much under McHale). It’s yet to be seen whether he fits as a 4 in Rambis’ system. Some things won’t change, but that’s different than saying nothing will change because new systems lead to differences in how guys play. Not only that, but any good role player has to be ready to play multiple positions. Gomes isn’t a star, so limiting himself to one position doesn’t enhance his value to the team or potentially enhance the team’s future.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Sep 17, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinal’s underrated because he’s always injured. When healthy he’s quite a useful backup, and if he hadn’t signed that absurd contract I could totally see him as valuable roleplayer on a really good team. I like watching him play, even if it’s pointless. I also think he’d be a blast to play pickup ball with.
Jennings: F*** the Knicks, them n***** is always going to be weak.
Someone should make a list
of the NBA players who would be the most fun to play pickup with. I’d love it.
I guarantee...
… that when that list is made, Kevin Love is on it. Others?
Nash
That dude is just sick with the ball in his hands.
I did play with Kobe once his rookie year when the Lakers came to Boston. He was really reserved and unremarkable (and probably most concerned with avoiding injury). I blocked him once, so he dunked on me =)
Pavlovic vs Brewer 2
The difference between Brewer and Pavlovic on defense simply comes down to size. Pav’s is over 30 lbs heavier…and it isn’t all fat. We all hope brewer gains some friggin weight so he doesn’t get pushed around. I would like to see him add 15-20, but you never know if he will. As it stands right now, Brewer weight limits his ability to guard bigger 3’s. Pav’s can guard them right now. As I have said before, this just tells me that Kahn and Rambis don’t necessarily want Gomes playing a whole bunch of starter minutes at the 3. I firmly believe that Kahn/Rambis will try to showcase how versatile Gomes is during this year against backups to add to his trade value at the deadline.
Bottom line…the wolves play Pavs at the 3 far more than the 2. Hell, if Pavs is playing with Flynn and Sessions on the floor, all they need him to do is hit 3’s to space the floor for Love and Al.
I am fine with the signing. I don’t think that Wilkins will be with the team for long next season. If he is…he isn’t getting alot of PT.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions
Agree on Brewer
being better guarding 2’s vs. 3’s and the opposite with Pavs. But unlike you, I think they give Gomes a shot to start as a 3. And the same can be said about Gomes playing with Flynn and Sessions and hitting 3’s. Both Gomes and Pavs are 36% career shooters from beyond the arc.
by Rascal Flatts on Sep 16, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
My opinion
of having gomes be a bench player has more to do with my opinion that Kahn is going to try to put him in the best possible light statistically by showing other teams how good he is at being a backup for teams that both need depth for a playoff push and need some salary cap relief in the next year (NG contract). I don’t think Pavs is better than gomes. But your starters aren’t always the best players on your team. Think Ben Gordon with the Bulls.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 17, 2009 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Gomes gone?
I wonder if this move just could mean Gomes is gone. If Pav is a 3/2 (along with Brewer, and Wilkens)…how many minutes does that leave for Gomes. Same thing at the 4, where Gomes is behind Love, Jefferson and Hollins on the depth chart.
Could the “big move” be Gomes (one of the only non-expiring, non-core players with any trade value) plus one to two of the expirings for something significant?
Other than potential Gomes implications, I think this Pav signing is kind of a snoozer. He is ok, but basically a one year rental. Looks to me like Kahn is consciously beefing up the periphery so that the team is at least on par with last year’s talentwise…taking away the hater’s last line of defense in their criticism of the offseason.
Good point on defense
Although I’m not a fan of this move, his addition + Sessions + a healthy Brewer = an upgraded perimeter defense next season. If Hollins can cash in on his length and energy off the bench for 15+ minutes per night, then almost without question we’re a better defensive squad…..still in the bottom half of the league, but may be the 35th percentile instead of the 15th percentile!
by Rascal Flatts on Sep 16, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeff and Love will benefit from this.
My guess is that we won’t notice perimeter strength so much as we’ll notice interior problems less. The rotational problems (which I hope improve under new direction) will hopefully be less glaring because our perimeter gang will be getting roasted less.
I would gladly take
some more solid D at the 2/3 at the expense of solid consistent offense. I think between the Flynn/Love and Sessions/Love pnr plus big Al offense should be enough for the most part.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 17, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, enough lame roster tweaking.
I’m getting sick of analyzing and talking to death moves like adding Sasha Pavlovic and Antonio Daniels. Let’s get the season going. I want to see this almost entirely new team in action.
Agreed
Spending more than 5 minutes talking about Sasha Pavlovic is depressing to me. Hope Kahn just makes his last “significant” move and the season starts so we can stop analyzing all these individual players and see how they do as a team.
by Funkle Jesse on Sep 16, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
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