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An appropriately efforted game wrap

 

Whenever a team goes down by 29 before the half to an opponent without its two best players there is only one thing to talk about: Korean cooking. 

As all of you surely know, Korean cuisine is the best in the world.  Nothing beats a warm dolsot bibimbap or a sizzling plate of bulgogi served with several bowls of banchan.

Today's recipe is sigumchi namul, or seasoned spinach.  Simply follow the directions provided in the accompanying video or, if you do not have access to fresh spinach, heat up a frozen package of leaf spinach, rinse in cold water, and mix with the following ingredients:

  • 1 clove of minced garlic
  • 2 green onions (white and light green parts only)
  • 1 T sesame seeds
  • 1 1/2 T soy sauce
  • 3/4 T sesame oil

Serve immediately over a warm bowl of rice.  If you are feeling really adventurous, you can add 1/4 cup of store-bought kimchi.  If you are feeling really, really adventurous, you can add the kimchi, some chopped carrots, and strips of a single-egg omelet for a hearty full meal. 

That about does it.  While there is nothing I enjoy more than writing about Korean food, here's hoping that the Wolves don't have too many more Korean cuisine games before the end of the year.  I'll work my way from namuls and panchans to main dishes.  If we get to bulgogi...all hope has been lost. 

Until later.

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Trying to deal with a mixture of

humor and dissapointment… I chuckled, but I didn’t get to see the game so I was hoping for something… Should I take that as a personal victory and be happy that I won’t hear much more about it? It looked pretty ugly.
On a side note, each loss brings Evan Turner slightly closer to a return to action!

by Mplax on Jan 3, 2010 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

The Pacers started...

….Josh McRoberts and Roy Hibbert and these two gents took apart Our Beloved Puppies in the first half. That’s pretty much all you need to take away from the game. The Pacers toyed with the Wolves without Granger and Murphy. The proper way to deal with a loss like this is to make a tasty meal and turn the game off at halftime. ;)

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Hibbert and McRoberts outplayed...

…Love and Jefferson. That’s ick.

Not much you can say when you go down 29 to a Pacers teams missing three starters, including its leading scorer.

by Oceanary on Jan 3, 2010 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

They definitely were out working them out of the gate

But ultimately, it’s hard to put this loss on the front court. Jefferson and Love did out score Hibbert and McRoberts (faint praise to be sure) 39-28. We lost this game, once again on the wings. The fearsome quartet of Dunleavy, Head, Rush, and Jones laid 64 points on the Wolves on 50% shooting. Our starting wings, Wilkins and Brewer combined for 14, and only Ellington managed double figures.

by dropstep on Jan 3, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Very true

Just mentioning it’s sad that the frontcourt contest was even close. Love in particular had a terrible first half which was when the Pacers built that huge lead, and we only came back from it when Hollins subbed in and Love road pine.

It was a lack of defense last night, not offense. We scored 111 points, so the wings’ lack of scoring wasn’t THAT big of a deal. It was the constant inability to stop the ball in the lane, which led to kickouts to wide open shooters.

by Oceanary on Jan 3, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe stopped at the rim

But not in the lanes. There was a lot of drive-and-kick from Indiana last night.

Again, it’s like Steve Nash. He gets into the lane all the time, but most of the time he’s kicking the ball out to open shooters, not going for layups.

Jefferson and Love played very poorly on both ends of the floor last night. There’s really no way to justify it. They were bad. Defense starts in the paint and radiates out from there. You can’t get open shots by just passing the ball around the perimeter. You get them by attacking the paint, drawing an extra defender with you, then finding the guy that’s left open, and that’s what the Pacers did.

by Oceanary on Jan 3, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

let's be honest

it was an all around horrible game for about 1.5 quarters minimum. They have to stop having that one quarter where they just fall asleep. Just painful to watch.

by TheEvilProfessor on Jan 3, 2010 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

If someone is driving to the hoop and a big man takes away the angle to the hoop and the person

driving kicks it out, what should the big man have done? If our big men stopped the Pacers for getting layups [and a I do realize that Hibbert had some nice post moves but that was a small percentage of the scoring] and the Pacers are MOSTLY forced into a perimeter game, what else could are big men do to stop the 3 pointers?

I’ve watch the Celtics, Lakers, Cav’s etc many games also. If the opponent is on fire shooting 3’s, big men can’t help except on some run outs. And I even saw our big men doing that. They had hands up on 3’ s more than wings.

by Kevin Love Jefferson on Jan 3, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

This makes no sense

You can’t blame the interior defender for dribble penetration resulting in a kick out for an open jumper. In that case, defense absolutely does not begin in paint. What is a center supposed to do to prevent Nash, in your example, from driving into the lane and dishing out to an open wing?

This is not to say that Love and Jefferson are great defenders, just that your point is nuts.

by dropstep on Jan 3, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Step up and cut off the driving lane

That’s the whole reason they never make it past San Antonio. Because whenever Nash tries to find a lane to dribble into, he runs into Tim Duncan.

The concept is called drive and kick, and it only works if someone drives. The Pacers weren’t just swinging the ball around the perimeter, and they wouldn’t have gotten open shots that way if they had. Open shooters only happen when the guy with the ball draws more than one defender to him.

If a guard gets by his man and goes into the paint, it’s a big man’s responsibility to rotate on defense and cut that guard off. Basic defense.

I’m not saying it’s all Love and Jefferson’s fault. But they aren’t free of blame either. Everyone talks about how we need to play better team defense…well, this is part of it.

by Oceanary on Jan 3, 2010 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

god I wish there was a virtual chalkboard to go over this

kind of stuff to try to define basic area responsibilities. All this typing just gets sooooo tedious.

by TheEvilProfessor on Jan 3, 2010 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

The ideal defense!

For 4 on 4.
Really though, is he a high school coach or something? He has the concept down, but the fact that he is ignoring the fifth man altogether is a little amateurish. If there was a center guarding the paint, the role of the 3 would change completely. It would involve rotating onto the C when his own center goes to cut the ball off, while simultaneously denying a passing lane to the now open player he just left. This is also when the two defenders still on the perimeter should be watching where the pass is going so they can get to any man that the ball could go to. Not sure about this part, but it’s possible that to avoid a complete lapse of the play, you should have the guy who was beat rotate over to the open perimeter player immediately instead of chasing the guy he just got beat by, then let the guy who went from the perimeter to help take over the guard after the center stops the initial drive. Also, leaving a guy open at the 3pt line works when talking about dots with numbers in them. When you are talking about Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis, Kobe Bryant, etc…. not so much.

by Mplax on Jan 4, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice video

But it proves the point. The primary concern is to deny the basket to the guy penetrating, which the Wolves did just fine. In that first scenario, it’s not really what we’re talking about because the help defender came from the wing. He left the guy at the arc open. That is exactly what kills the Wolves constantly, the open outside shot. It is set up by the poor premiter defense that allows guys into the lane. So, man on defense on the perimeter is a problem, and general awareness is also a problem. As good a defender as Brewer might be, how many times do you see him get burned off a backdoor cut each game? Or he drifts too far from his man for an ill-advised double. Flynn has worse awareness. That backbreaking and1 at the end of the Pacer came from Flynn sleeping and allowing Watson to cut through the lane for the pass and layup. Our backcourt/wings do not do a good job of either guarding against the open jumper or preventing penetration. Once the guy gets into the paint, most times the defense is screwed, as someone is going to be open somewhere. That is why it’s great to have a guy who can defend the rim, but that just removes one option from the driver. The effective way to stop this is to prevent him from getting into the paint in the first place, which is on the wings/PG.

The sad thing is that Flynn getting into the lane pays off for the Wolves at a low rate. He can beat his man, (but the absence of a left hand drive makes it tougher) but has a hard time finishing over big men, has a hard time finding his own bigs, and usually does a good job of kicking it out to the wings who hit the open shots at a poor rate.

by dropstep on Jan 3, 2010 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

No one ever just stays in front of their man every time

It’s proper defense to funnel cutters to where big men should be stepping in to help.

That video perfectly proves my point. When a guard gets into the lane, someone needs to step in to cut him off. Granted that video showed a wing player stepping in, but that was only because there were no players in the post in that scenario. So if that was us, two of those defender dots on the perimeter are Jefferson and Love.

This is basic basketball defense. When ballhandlers get into the lane, someone steps up to cut them off, usually a big man because they’re the closest and most intimidating ball stoppers. Defense 101

by Oceanary on Jan 4, 2010 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

You're correct

And this is what happened in the game. Layups were prevented, kick outs and open jump shots were the result. No breakdown of the interior defense. Handling Hibbert was another thing altogether.

by dropstep on Jan 4, 2010 1:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Right, but the "kick" of drive and kick...

comes when the ballhandler is cut off by a big man. Otherwise they’d just go up for a layup. Right? The fact that they kick it out means they’ve been stopped by a help defender and then pass to that help defender’s now-open man. Not the fault of the help defender that he had to slide over to stop the penetration. Defense 101.

by LoveTo on Jan 4, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

No, I'm saying our bigs were supposed to not let those guards into the lane in the first place

That’s what coaches mean by “stopping the ball”….getting in front of the guy and forcing him to pick up his dribble. It does no good to come over on help defense if the ballhandler can just keep going in a different direction.

I can see what you’re saying now though. I misunderstood a bit. They did prevent layups (kind of…I still saw a lot of those too…) But they weren’t stopping the ball, just sending it in a new direction.

If it were as easy as just stepping into the lane, every team would get blown out by the Pacers or Knicks or Warriors. Every team would have the same problems on defense we did. There’s a reason teams with competent defensive bigs like the Spurs, Celtics and Hawks beat those teams and we don’t, and it starts with stopping the ball.

That’s also, again, why Nash is so hard to defend and why the Suns are an elite team and the Knicks and Warriors aren’t, even though they all use basically the same formula: Nash is a master at keeping his dribble alive even when he gets cut off or trapped.

Again, our wings had a part in the defensive lapses last night. I’m just saying our bigs did too, and explaining why. It’s not at all fair to just put it all on the perimeter players and clear the big men of all blame, especially in a game like the last two where our bigs played undeniably bad.

by Oceanary on Jan 4, 2010 1:31 AM CST up reply actions  

The pacer's player driving the hoop didn't "dribble through" like a Nash,

their penetration was stopped. Thats when they kicked.

The wolves have poor team defense. That is clear. But much of what I hear on many sites, including, at times, this one attributes this poor defense to Jefferson/Love and lack or size and athleticism in the middle.

At times this season, and in past seasons that has been a real problem. I’ve seen jefferson play matador on many occasions, especially in Oct./Nov time frame. [I think part of that was attributable to new coach, confusion about new schemes – offensive and defensive, an recovery from injury.] But I have NOT seen much in the way of “matador defense” in the last few games. A few guys were allowed to the hoop when Jefferson or Love had no angle to cut them off, and there wasn’t a good opportunity to get a block. Our big men, in the last few games played decent team defense. The problem was on the perimeter.

As someone else aptly described earlier, our “little guys” – wings and PG, don’t know when to help. They are not situationally aware. They are caught in “no man’s land”, covering no one much too often. I’ve seen many uncontested 3’s shot. There should be a “run out” to move someone off the 3 point line or a hand in someone’s face every time someone shoots a 3. Far too often that doesn’t happen with the wolves.

I do think all of these things are correctable with proper focus on team defense. Brewer and Flynn especially have the athleticism to play defense well, once they full understand what they should be doing. Learning to play solid team defense is the next stage of the wolves journey.

by Kevin Love Jefferson on Jan 4, 2010 4:51 AM CST up reply actions  

You have to start with bulgogi...

I was stationed in Korea for a year (Yongsan AIN, Seoul, South Korea) and that is one of the best dishes I have ever eaten. Bulgogi is much more interesting than our game last night.

by Wolf21 on Jan 3, 2010 12:49 PM CST reply actions  

I was stationed...

…at Osan with some time at CRC later on. I spent a lot of time up at Yongsan on my time off. We’d bus up there for touristy things.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Prolly not a good idea

to “out” your CIA activities on a moderately-traveled website.

by PoorDick on Jan 3, 2010 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

WWDCD?

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Shoot a dude

in the face with buckshot?

by PoorDick on Jan 3, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

and them make him apologize

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I spent some time at Osan as well...

since I was in the AF but stationed at Yongsan. I lived off base right outside Hannam Village and close to the hill in Itaewon. It was a fun time.

by Wolf21 on Jan 3, 2010 1:34 PM CST reply actions  

my favorite bulgogi joint..

….was right outside the gate at osan. it was samil kalbi house. it had a raised floor with traditional heating and seating.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

The Hill...

…is a dirty place. I’ve lived in Seoul for 7.5yrs.

by Far East on Jan 4, 2010 8:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Seoul...

…is definitely more interesting the further away from the base you get. I took a week off with a buddy and we went on a walking tour of the city. It’s a fantastic place. My favorite places in Korea were Beopjusa in Songisan National Park and the DMZ.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 4, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

where wuz yall stationed at mayn

an wuss de kill like mayn i heard iss nuttin but dirt up in sum laces mayn me i gto dat kill mayn

MAYN HOL UP!

by MAYNHOLUP on Jan 3, 2010 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

crappy kill..

….in korea.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Stationed all over...

I was in Korea for 374 days though. Bulgogi and yaki-mandu (especially from the street vendors while out drinking) are the best. OB Beef and Beer was a great place to eat and drink while out on the town in Seoul. Also, drinking the kettles (soju mixed with all sorts of different things) is a must while walking around from club to club. I have to be honest; I never did develop a taste for kimchi.

by Wolf21 on Jan 3, 2010 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

ammo bowls!!!

koera’s street food isn’t that great, but it’s perfect drunk food.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Wayne Ellington

I’ve never been to Korea, don’t cook, and don’t use “da kill”. I don’t know, call me culturally deprived……

 I do however follow the Timberwolves and despite a putrid first half, there were some signs of life in the second half.

- Wayne Ellington is starting to really come around. I love the fact that he isn’t just a shooter, but a guy willing to play defense and mix it up on the boards a little bit. Let’s hope he keeps this up because he can help fill our biggest functional gap – shooting.

- Kevin Love has a lot more work to do to get into NBA shape. The poor close-outs, missed free throws, and a bit of a fall off in his rebounding of late are all due to tired legs in my opinion. Guys like Bosh, KG, and other elite PFs are freaks when it comes to taking care of their bodies. Love needs to have the same focus in this area.

- We need more from Sessions. A lot of criticism has been directed at Flynn on this site, me included, but I would expect Sessions to be posting much better per minute numbers playing against back-ups. I thought he was a top 15 – 20 PG when we signed him this offseason, but his numbers are off nearly across the board. His TOV%, AST%, STL%, and TS% are all down compared to last year.

by Rascal Flatts on Jan 3, 2010 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

on a related note

does anyone know where to get player stats by quarter? I’m curious about Love’s numbers by quarter, particularly his rebounding numbers.

by littleboxes on Jan 3, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

You could go through the play by play

Last night was a really bad game for Love, particularly in the first half. I think he finished the half with something like 4 points and a single rebound. Indiana went small and Love had a ton or problems with Dahntay Jones, particularly in the second quarter.

Second half he did a lot better, but too little too late.

by Oceanary on Jan 3, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I was hoping

for a way to do this for the entire season that doesn’t involve me going through the play by play for every game. I’m shocked it hasn’t been easy for me to find. I am an idiot so it’s possible I missed it but I checked hoopdata and basketballreference and nothing by quarter of the game.

by littleboxes on Jan 3, 2010 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Korean food is the best food in the world.

Hands down. I never tasted it until I was twenty four years old, but after I had korean bbq, I lost all interest in American-style bbq immediately. Keep preaching the truth, SnP!

by Princely Frank on Jan 3, 2010 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

If you live in the cities...

…you should definitely check out King’s Buffet in Fridley. It’s the best Korean food in town and they have a noraebang (karaoke bar) on the weekends. You won’t get the complete korean noraebang experience (i.e. no vats of soju) but it’s as good as it gets in the cities.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see this game wrap as appropriately efforted

Recipes for Easy Mac or possibly ice would have sufficed.

by nja700 on Jan 3, 2010 5:55 PM CST reply actions  

true

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 4, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

See, I've never been a fan of cooking leafy green vegetables

Something about the texture always throws me off, too chewy and soggy. But I wouldn’t mind giving this a shot, I need to expand my arsenal of healthy stuff. Does boiling spinach like that take any of the nutrients out of it?

Also, I am attracted to the lady in that video.

by museum on Jan 3, 2010 7:20 PM CST reply actions  

you only want...

…to put the spinach in the boiling water for 30 seconds. Just enough for it to wilt. It’s a blanch, not a boil. It really does make for a fantastic quick meal, especially with kimchi.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

what do you think of Korean Pancakes? that was another video of hers, looked good. Jasmine 26 in Mpls, which is kind of like yuppie Vietnamese, has something similar.

by museum on Jan 3, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm not a big fan...

…of pancakes but that’s just a personal thing.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

This site just gets better and better

Intellectually stimulating, trenchant balling analyses, good humor, politics, bonhomie, and now cuisine. Add in an adult beverage thread and I can die peacefully. Serendipity, too, as my wife just returned from an LA Koreatown market with some kimchi. Thanks again, to comrade SnP!

by uncle rico on Jan 3, 2010 9:04 PM CST reply actions  

Much appreciated...

…and I have been planning a beer thread for a while now. I’ll put it up soon.

PS: I’m completely jealous of your vicinity to LAKoreatown. We used to live in the Monterey area and we’d head down to LA or up to San Jose to the big Korean areas and there are no two better Korean communities in all of the US. Mankato….not so much.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, beer...

A man wiser than me once said it’s the source and solution to all of life’s problems. Such alpha and omega simplicity is as beautiful as it is profound.

As to mutual envy, Monterey certainly must have been nice as well. I can’t get Bell’s Two-hearted ale here either. Perhaps an exchange? Some Korean food for a six pack?

by uncle rico on Jan 3, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

let's not forget Summit and Surly

I am a HUGE fan of those. Wish I could get Summit Oatmeal Stout in a bottle….damn tap only product….and it’s almost always sold out. grrrrr.

by TheEvilProfessor on Jan 3, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

A recommendation you probably won't be able to track down or remember

Black Butte. It’s a porter, made by Deschutes Brewery in Southern Oregon. It is the best beer in the United States, and you can only by it in or in states near Oregon. So perfect, so good, so not in Minnesota.

by museum on Jan 3, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Your assumption about my memory is probably correct

but in the case of a good ale (no pun intended), that’s where I’m an elephant (use Ralph Wiggum inflection here). I keep hearing about Deschutes and did spot it, I believe, in Wine House on the westside of LA a few months back. Heard their IPA is good, too. Will add to said porter to my list.

by uncle rico on Jan 3, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, if you’re out west much, they had it in a few places in Oakland when I lived there, so I’d imagine it’s in LA too. One thing about Deschutes, they can be really hit or miss. I was driving back to Mpls from Portland a couple years ago, and before leaving town I stopped in a convenience store that happened to have 8-10 different varieties, so I filled my back seat up. A few of them were terrible, and I’m not one to say that about many beers. I don’t recall where the IPA fell. But when they’re on they’re on, and Black Butte is my favorite beer.

Speaking of bad beers, the lady just picked up some Lagunitas Brown Shugga….ugh. Some beer sites online seem to like it. It’s all we can do to just drink it after spending 10 bucks on a six pack. That’s saying something. And Lagunitas does make some good stuff.

by museum on Jan 4, 2010 2:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the additional 411

I like the Lagunitas IPAs but will stay away from the BS. I know how you feel about the 10 buck six-pack let down. That’s why it would be great if Stop n Pop dedicates a thread to the consumption of fine ales; we can continue to exchange information. Ever tried Republic of California Pliny the Elder (IPA)? Rather floral hops but crisp and quite good.

by uncle rico on Jan 4, 2010 2:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Treated myself to two pints

of Pliny the Elder a couple of weeks ago. Man that is good stuff. Never had a beer so heavy on the hops but so crisp, just as you described. One correction, though. It’s from Russian River Brewing Company.

by dropstep on Jan 4, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Ooops again.

Can I retract my earlier post about being an elephant? I was thinking perhaps of Racer 5, which is the Bear Republic Brewing company (got the name wrong as well). For the false dissemination of brewing information, I hereby banish myself from further postings for three consecutive happy hours.

by uncle rico on Jan 4, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I never would have caught that

had I not consumed straight from the spigot at the Russian River Brewery within the recent past. Racer 5 is the other legendary brew amongs my friends who study the craft enough to dabble in home brewing. And that’s where my memory goes to hell as I will inevitably ask for a Racer X when drinking with those boys.

by dropstep on Jan 4, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you sample other offerings

in the temple of brew? I am most envious! Someday, yes, someday I must make an ale hajj to this sacred place.

by uncle rico on Jan 4, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I stuck with the Pliny

I did make the discovery that the buzzkill factor of the movie The Road was more than equal to two pints of the 8% PtheE. In hindsight I should have had a third round before walking to the cineplex. Two kill off 3 pints might require a rewatch of the Pacers game.

My buddy stuck with the very basic house IPA. They are heavy on the Belgian style there, of which he is often not fond, so he played it safe. I sampled a bit of his, but it couldn’t stand up to the Pliny.

I do recommend a pilgrimage, but you certainly can’t limit it to the Russian River Ale House. The advantage of being in NorCal is the number of good local breweries. You’d need to hit the Lagunitas Tap Room, the Pyramid Alehouse, tour the Anchor Brewery, and drive north for the Sierra Nevada Taproom. Those should be the highlight of the tour. For Lagunitis, I prefer the Censored (Kronic) Ale. At least when just picking up a 6 pack.

by dropstep on Jan 5, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

From LA

I prostrate myself and bow several times to the east in reverential obeisance! All those breweries in NorCal, and that’s before/after touring the wine country! I have not yet seen the Censored Ale by Lanunitis but will add it to my list. Playing it safe by opting out of the Belgium ales brewed in the States sounds wise. Still have not found a decent native brew to match those done by the old world chocolate makers and monks (to paraphrase a former SOD, and pace New Belgium Brewery in Fort Collins). My apologies, too, to SnP for hijacking the Korean cuisine thread.

We all know that art is not the truth, art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.--Picasso

by uncle rico on Jan 5, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

no problem...

…we need to get a beer thread going asap.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 5, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

With or without stats?

[non-snarky grin]

We all know that art is not the truth, art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.--Picasso

by uncle rico on Jan 5, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

With:

http://www.ratebeer.com/

;)

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 6, 2010 7:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Purely fortuitous

or is it? Looking up ye ol’ Pliny the Elder on ratebeer.com, I came across the following information that seems germane to our venerable site here and its many ale consuming netizens:

“Pliny the Elder was a Roman naturalist, scholar, historian, traveler, officer, and writer. Although not considered his most important work, Pliny and his contemporaries created the botanical name for hops, “lupus Salictarius”, meaning wolf among scrubs." Hops at that time grew wild among willows, much like a wolf in the forest. Later the current botanical name, humulus Lupulus, was adopted." If the Pups ever become a championship caliber team perhaps we’ll be referring to them as “lupus Salictrarius.” Source http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/russian-river-pliny-the-elder/8936/

Any home brewers here care to concoct a Humulus Lupulus Hoopus?

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by uncle rico on Jan 6, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this why we drafted Flynn?

Were the wolves obligated to select the player with the best hops at the combine?

by dropstep on Jan 6, 2010 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

extra points..

….for the pun of the day ;)

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 6, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

mmmmm....

…bell’s two hearted. the same brewery has something called third coast ale. it’s almost 11% and needs to be decanted before drinking. it’s insanely good.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 3, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Or Spotted Cow in WI

I have to drive to Hudson, WI to get it by the case. When Blue Moon became a national brand (owned by miller?), the decided to stay a micro brew and only sell in WI. Sigh. Favorite part of visiting WI for work.

by TheEvilProfessor on Jan 3, 2010 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Anything by New Glarus

Is absolutely phenomenal. My best friend had some of their award-winning reserves (Raspberry was tops) as well as all of their other options at his grad party this summer. I only wish it was widely circulated in MN. A brewery tour there is definitely on my docket at some point (as well as Leinenkugels; I was a month away from 21 on a choir tour visit through Chippewa Falls, thereby damning me to free Sprite instead of free samples of Summer Shandy. I still haven’t recovered.)

by nja700 on Jan 3, 2010 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Ma Bells

Oberon is good, too. One amazing thing about Bells is the consistent quality. Seems like I’ve maybe had one sixer that seemed somewhat flat. Probably because some poorly informed minion let said ale warm up before re-cooling it again. Good stuff.

American microbrews are most impressive. Only thing I have not been impressed with is knockoffs of Belgium ales. Could we attribute this weakness to a dearth of monks here?

by uncle rico on Jan 3, 2010 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

"Ah, beer... A man wiser than me once said . . .

. . . it’s the source and solution to all of life’s problems. Such alpha and omega simplicity is as beautiful as it is profound."

The Wisdom of the D’oh!

by PoorDick on Jan 3, 2010 9:38 PM CST reply actions  

I have to disagree....

Not about the end result of the game, but in regards to Korean food. I am an avid reader and until now I have not registered on the site, but this topic urged me to speak up.I lived in Osan, as a civilian, and I could not stand most Korean food. Bulgogi was one of the few dishes that I enjoyed. I know that people normally are very divided about Korean food, its a love or hate type relationship. Food played a big factor in why I decided to return home.

I also must say that one never has cold legs when at an authentic Korean BBQ restaurant.

by tomgreen_84 on Jan 3, 2010 10:11 PM CST reply actions  

I can't each Kimchi

It’s just waaaayyyyy too spicy for me. Most Korean food is actually.

Bulgogi is one of the few foods I like as well.

by Oceanary on Jan 3, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Kimchi...

…is definitely a love/hate sort of food.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 4, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Spice Overload.

That was one big reason I couldn’t eat too much Korean food…

When I was in Korea, an English speaking taxi driver and I were once talking about Kimchi and I told him how it was too spicy for me. He responded by saying that thats why I am short and that it will put hair on your chest. Enjoying the jest, I reminded him that we were the same height and I was much hairier. Good times.

by tomgreen_84 on Jan 3, 2010 10:21 PM CST reply actions  

Heatlhy

The best thing about Korean food is that it is so healthy.

by Far East on Jan 4, 2010 8:10 AM CST reply actions  

I like bibimbap

even more than I would have liked Hibbert as a non-lottery first rounder. Which is a fair amount.

"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."

by feral on Jan 4, 2010 10:23 AM CST reply actions  

Wasn't Bibimbap

with the Mavericks for awhile?

by PoorDick on Jan 4, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

You're thinking of Popeye Jones

Admimttedly, there is a resemblance between Jones and a mixed-up dish topped with a flat egg. However, I think you will agree that the food’s more attractive.


"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."

by feral on Jan 4, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's the mashed up version

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 4, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Oddly,

Popeye Jones seems to almost be more attractive when he’s cut up.

Remember his accidentally sinking a basket by batting the ball out of a jump ball? I believe that was in Dallas, many years ago. Unique moment.

"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."

by feral on Jan 6, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Very risible!

I am so tired of LMAO and ROFL. Are there others to describe my mirth?

by uncle rico on Jan 4, 2010 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

A simple

“haha” would do.
If you really wanted to get fancy, you could make similes and metaphors to describe how hard you are laughing. For example:
I’m laughing as hard as I would if someone just told me Corey Brewer hit two 3s in a row.
If you are really laughing, this might describe it:
I am laughing as hard as I would if someone suggested that Jawai didn’t eat that last piece of cheesecake.

by Mplax on Jan 4, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

So, in short form:

LAHAIWISJTMCBH23IAR

LAHAIWISSTJDNETLPOCC

I’ll try to remember those for next time.

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