GameThread #36: vs. Golden State
by wyn on Jan 6, 2010 6:45 PM CST
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PrintGolden State Warriors at Minnesota Timberwolves, Jan 6, 2010 7:00 PM CST
Remember that whole "worst loss in franchise history" thing from earlier this season? That was against the Golden State Nellies and tonight is the Wolves' chance at revenge.
The good news for Minnesota is that neither team is the same as they were then. Gone from the Warriors' roster are Stephen Jackson, Mikki Moore and Acie Law, while Kelenna Azubuike (who dropped 31 points is the aforementioned loss) is out for the rest of the season. Last night Golden State was up by 1 on Denver when JR Smith was fouled from 3-point land with 0.4 seconds left on the clock. Smith sank the first
The Wolves, of course, now have Kevin Love on their side. After 17 games Love leads the team in rebounding, free throw attempts and 3-pt %, is 2nd in minutes, points and steals, 3rd in assists. Whether he and Al Jefferson are eventually pitted in a Hoopus Death Match or not, Love has been a huge contributor since his return (2nd on the team with 2.1 Win Shares, behind Jefferson's 2.2).
As a parting shot, guess who had the best night of his season in the 41-point drubbing Nellie leveled on the Wolves? Sasha. Pavlovic.
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Warriors are bigger now though
Biedrins and Turiaf are both playing again, and Randolph has been finally moved into the starting 5.
Wolves.com says Alando Tucker has been activated tonight, so maybe we’ll see him for a few minutes.
About Time!!!!!!
MNTimberwolves Kurt Rambis has activated Alando Tucker in place of Ryan Hollins (out w/ upper respiratory infection).
I'm going to need Brewer
to prove he is a defensive star. I don’t know if he’s going to match up against Maggette or Ellis, but both those guys are on fire recently, and both do their damage with the ball in their hands. If he is on Maggette he’s going to have to stay in front of him and not let him get a head of steam going to the basket. He can give him the jumper, but he’s been so efficient by getting to the line on his drives. Last night against Denver he was 12-16 from the field and 11-12 from the line. If it’s Ellis, he’s way to quick for him, but he’s got to use his length. We don’t have much chance to stop the wings the Brewer isn’t guarding, so he’s got to keep his man down. Last time he mostly guarded Jackson. He’ll have it tougher this time out.
By position, he'll match up with Steph Curry
But knowing Don Nelson, he’s probably going to see 4 or 5 guys if he stays on the court that long….Curry, Maggette, Ellis, Anthony Morrow, maybe Radmonavic, maybe Randolph….
Might not be enough time on any one player to really see anything one way or the other. Warriors are nuts with their rotations.
How's that?
Curry’s the point. It looks like he’s guarding Ellis. Wilkins has no chance against Maggette he absolutely left him with that spin to the basket. Wolves got lucky he overthought the layup.
Just going off how the lineups get penciled in
Ellis has been, on paper at least, the point guard this year.
Although he and Curry are interchangable in that system I guess.
I would think
That if you look at it like your last sentence, then Monta would be the obvious cover as the tougher player to guard.
Most definitely
Not arguing that. Just that Monta has been lining up against the other team’s point guards most of the year.
No
Monta is typically put on the top scoring wing. He’s actually considered their wing stopper. Deserved or not.
He actually makes little impact defensively
The Warriors’ offense though is actually a lot better without him. And I mean a LOT.
The turnovers are a killer for him and the team.
How would you know?
He has more min/game than anyone in the league. He’s never off the court.
That's OFFENSE
Defense is about a point different. THe problem is sample size, as I mentioned he often plays 48 minutes.
I can't even begin
to know what you’re talking about. The point is, you’re wrong about the defensive impact. And regardless of any plus/minus, Nellie likes to play Ellis against the top scoring wing. Much like Brewer is considered the best Wolves defender even though the team gives up more points when he’s on the floor.
I’m not the guy arguing stats with you, but sample size is always going to be a consideration.
111 points with him
110 without him.
Opponents score an average of 25 points/48 minutes against him, so he’s not exactly locking anyone down. And Golden State isn’t a great defensive team anyway (or even an average one).
And Brewer's assignment scores 26
You know that stat makes assumptions about who the player is guarding. As I said Ellis get’s moved around to guard where needed. Can you just trust me that Nellie thinks of Ellis as his wing stopper, feels his defense is greatly improved from last year, and then we can drop this? Living in the Bay Area I hear a lot of Warrior talk.
I agree the Warriors think of him that way
Just pointing out he’s not at all a good defender in reality
I doubt you've watched enough of him this year
to say that, but fine. I think the fact that you’ve already pointed out that the Warriors are not a good defensive team suggests that he could easily be their stopper. I don’t think there is a statistical way to support or refute his defensive abilities.
The difference being that
Monta has been scoring 30 a game. Brewer is only in the league because of his defense. It should show up somewhere.
In my opinion.
yeah...
….brewer’s bread is supposedly buttered on the defensive side and there really isn’t much there, there at the moment. it should definitely show up somewhere…at least more than it should with a potential defensive stopper .
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I don't know if you can rate a player defensively...
…based on point differential alone.
That’s like saying Bowen was a bad defender because he wasn’t scoring 30ppg when he was guarding Kobe.
Sometimes, Oceanary
Your logic just escapes me
Well what are you saying?
That Monta is a good defender because he scores more than he gives up? That’s not good criteria for rating a player defensively.
and cut...
..i think we’ve exhausted this little meme.
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I've not seen that anywhere
Curry is recognized as the starting PG. Certainly that’s how the Warriors put it on paper. The ESPN preview has Curry at PG.
stream?
Whenever the games are on FSN, I get the rainbow no signal screen on atdhe. Is there another stream somewhere?
atdhe's up and running right now
I hope. Actually I’m watching that stupid NBA idiot cab driver commercial again.
You would think players at this level
could know where a line is.
by Bad News Wolves on Jan 6, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
He and Van Gundy both
They should have a “sweatily trudge around in a sweater and sportcoat looking like you’re gonna pass out” contest.
Can you imagine him in a wax museum?
He’s look the same as he does now. Maybe even better in wax.
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And Tucker gets no playing time yet...
and Pecherov does? hmmmm
Isn't this supposed to be the month we start winning a few game?
We laid a huge egg against a decimated Indiana squad and now we get off to just a horrid start against a Warriors squad that is playing back-to-backs on the road.
Hey look at the bright side,
at least were better than the Nets…
by Bad News Wolves on Jan 6, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
This game isn't going as planned
I thought the idea was to get a small lead in the first quarter, be tied at half time, and then get destroyed in the 3rd and 4th quarter. That’s what I’ve seen from my Wolves and that’s what I’m used to – no, no, no – this just won’t do
by Son of Gerald Green on Jan 6, 2010 7:39 PM CST reply actions
That's November's Wolves
December’s Wolves either keep it close the whole game or get blown out in the first 15 minutes
and the bar gets set even lower
at least were better than the Nets…
by Son of Gerald Green on Jan 6, 2010 7:41 PM CST reply actions
Very Discouraging
to see other laughable franchises like the Knicks, Grizzlies, and Kings improve while we give serious minutes to Pecherov and Pavlovic (otherwise known as “2 Wild & Crazy Guys”)
by Son of Gerald Green on Jan 6, 2010 7:48 PM CST reply actions
What a turd performance so far...
We’re playing Golden State, who has one strength…ONE…outside shooting. Yet we’re still playing the “Give them wide open jumpers” D.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
In the opening segment, it was said GS isn't a good outside shooting team.
They win (occasionally) by pushing the ball and getting to the rim. But I’m sure there will be plenty of open opportunities both inside and outside.
Not sure where they rank...
But they’re offense is fast breaking and outside shooting. Our defense in both of these areas sucked to begin with, and it’s regressing…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Their consistent scorers are slashers
Ellis and Maggette. But they do have outside shooters. Morrow off the bench, and more and more Curry (hit like 5 or 6 of 6 3pt last night).
Curry
Looks like a vastly superior basketball player to Jonny Flynn. And a vastly superior PG. Sorry, but that was a huge swing and miss by Kahn at #6. Oh, but he did interview well.
Curry Sucks, is even more out of position than Jonny Flynn, and has done nothing to show he’s not JJ Redick
Where do you get that?
The guy really knows how to play
We already have a guy like that on this team in Kevin Love, 2 of them on the court at the same time would create athletic deficiencies that could not be overcome.
Athletic deficiencies?
Do you see him have any trouble with Flynn’s athleticism?
Were any of those fouls
called for being out physicaled? Gomes has 3 fouls, is he a bad athlete?
I beg to differ
Redick can’t and doesn’t play PG, Curry does. And Curry is already shooting the ball better as a rookie. That’s the old saw we heard about Curry in college (he’ll be another Redick). That’s just not true.
by Rascal Flatts on Jan 6, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
ahhhhh!!!
bomb throwing!!! ;)
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You know how tennis has "Unforced Errors"
Does anyone track unforced turnovers in the NBA? FFS, about 90% of our TO’s tonight are own fault.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
gotta love it...
…when guys just dribble it off their foot for no reason.
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And any other 4 guys you can grab out of the crowd...
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
good lord
golden state is shooting 56%. our defense is insanely bad. it is one of many achilles heels.
No kidding...
There is no excuse to give Pav minutes in front of him. “Knowing the Triangle” hasn’t meant shit for Sasha…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Wilkins has the ball in his hands way more than he should
Is that the triangle? On most normal teams, he’d be stashed away somewhere on most offensive sets. I can’t wait to see his position’s jersey say “Turner” or “Childress” or “R. Brewer” or “Gay” next season.
Very true...
But you still have to ake the pass. That turnover wasn’t exactly a good end to the possession.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
i saw another guy in the audience...
….wearing a packers jersey with a yankees hat .
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I would definitely punch him...
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Al is just ridiculously incapable of passing out of a double team...
It is painful…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
the man deserves some props:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/nelsodo01c.html
but seems to have some issues with management/ownership.
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He's a good coach but not a great one.
The fact that he’s never won a tittle and he’s been around for as long as he has says something.
by Bad News Wolves on Jan 6, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
he's like the Aerosmith of coaches
by davechisholm on Jan 6, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i can't imagine the way..
….in which vikes fans hearts will be torn out this year.
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I'm guessing we somehow manage to get to the superbowl
only to lose 49 to 3.
by Bad News Wolves on Jan 6, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
i'm thinking a conference finals loss to the packers...
….on a favre pick 6 with very little time remaining. either that or an adrian peterson fumble.
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you know it's coming
;)
i’d argue that if you don’t, you can’t really be a vikings fan. as someone who last watched a full game with 41-0, i do know a little bit about the psychological underpinnings of the chicago cubs of the nfl.
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that's true...
…they’re the buffalo bills then, right?
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How about the Gophers
of the NFL. Vikings and Gophers spent 25 years each playing in the Dome and neither team could win their conference!
i remember swearing off...
…the vikes after 41-0. too much of an emotional investment to even think of watching that team.
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Fortunately that weekend
I followed my wife on a business trip to Beverly Hills to escape the tundra. Stayed out late the night before and the hangover combined with being on Pacific Time made the game a semi-blur, except for the idiot Giants fan I had to watch the game with who kept telling us all how sorry he felt for us. Luckily he left at the half and didn’t come back, a dozen angry, hung over Vikings fans is not something to mess with.
So if the Vikings are futility personified . . .
. . . then what are the Wolves?
Quite frankly, after the past few seasons and tonight’s game, I’ll settle for a few division titles and Western Conference championships. Any predictions on whether our children will live long enough to see one?
He can't be any worse.
Is it bad that I want Hart back….
by Bad News Wolves on Jan 6, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
What an appropriate ending to Flynn's half
That right there is a microcosm of everything wrong with Jonny Flynn. Unreal.
Perfect ending to the half...
If Golden State wasn’t missing open jumpers in the 2nd, we would be down 30 right now.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
or finger guns..
…..that, to me, is the kicker about arenas. i said it in another thread, but imagine if there was a team formerly known as “the gropers” and they had to change their name because the town they played in had too many cases of sexual harassment. not imagine that the team formerly known as the gropers had a $100 million dollar player who was accused of sexual harassment and treated the matter as a joke, even going as far as to mimic a pole dance in a pre-game warmup. now flip the script to read “bullets” and the crime to be “illegal possession of a firearm” and you have gil.
i personally think stern should suspend the entire team for 5 games for laughing at the pregame warmup. look at randy foye in the picture of the “joke”. it’s clear that the entire team of millionaires sees nothing wrong with a little gunplay after what…some high stakes gambling…which gets around to the biggest problem of all: this “joke” happened after some millionaire players were caught gambling. who here amongst us honestly thinks that some of these clowns haven’t bet on a game?
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How many priests would be on this team?
Sadly, Arenas will be punished more than most of the priests.
it's about not putting up with idiocy
i have no stomach for this sort of thing. someone needs to be the grown up in that locker room and not let that sort of nonsense happen. if they need to sort it out the old fashioned way, so be it, but guns and gambling in the locker room is not a winning combo. idiocy needs to be punished harshly here.
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Definitely agree
As I read your comment the priest issue came to mind specifically because the Catholic bureaucracy failed to crack down on the bad guys.
gotchya....
….here’s hoping stern has more balls than the pope.
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I think Arenas would have gotten away with a
5-20 game suspension, but the lack of contrition combined with the stupid jokes is going to force Stern to throw the book at him. In fact, I think Arenas will be not just punished, but made an example of, a la Michael Vick. This is the excuse management needed to crack down on the thuggery, and will probably also be used as a primary example of why the league wants shorter contracts in the next CBA.
No prisoners...
We all have our whipping boys, but you can’t blame that half on any ONE. Total crap effort by all.
As bad as Flynn was…Al’s offense killing possessions, Love’s sloppy turnovers, Pech’s and Pav’s pure suckitude, and the anonymousness of everyone else is all to blame.
I am as hardcore as they come, but I’m telling you…this shit is getting unwatchable. There was a little progress when Love got healthy, but that seems long gone now. I know this year is all about accumulating assets, and positioning ourselves for the future, but when guys like me are thinking of bailing this early in the season…well…that’s trouble. I’m OK with bad when there is effort, and I’m just not seeing it. If the players aren’t going to try yhis year, then why should I?
Sorry for the diatribe…just wanted to make it clear that Kahn and Rambis better make it clear to the players that what we’ve seen recently is not acceptable.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
agreed...
….it’s across the board awful right now. although i do think that flynn is going through an especially poor stretch of (hopefully) rookie play.
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ok...
..this team clearly is uninterested in playing tonight. they didn’t even bother answering the 2nd bell.
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only with a good ale
We all know that art is not the truth, art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.--Picasso
OH god...
Pav getting burn in the 1st four minutes? I think our staff has lost the plot…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Does that include turnovers?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
And we could call Pech...
Major Crap.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
College ball
Holy smokes, Cornell is giving Kansas a run for their money tonight!
Funny thing about this game...
As bad as we’ve been, GS will definitely let us back in if take it…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I would love for Brewer
to voluntarily donate some of his current shooting confidence to Love
Why are NBA refs calling travelling...
On every ball fake this year? Especially after they clarified the “2 steps” thing?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
He's +13 tonight so far...
In what might be the most hilarious stat I’ve ever seen…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
not only that..
….but love went out at the same time. i don’t get that one.
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Yeah...
Kurt’s rotations the last few games have been a bit odd. And it seems he’s going with the backups longer, regardless of what’s happening in the game…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I remember he did that a several weeks back..
..when Sessions was playing great and he kept scuttling the flow by replacing him with Jonny Stop.
Thank goodness Pech is out
If he whiffed on any more passes or loose balls I was going to lose it.
Does he pass?
Ever? He’s out there like pass me ball pass me ball pass me ball pass me OMG I HAVE BALL MUST SHOOT MUST SHOOT MUST SHOOT
he had a game last week..
….with 3 assists and 2 shots. i think the earth started to rotate backwards at that point.
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More college....
Ryan Wittman leading Cornell as they try to squeak past Kansas at Phog Allen!
Evan Turner started for OSU tonight against Indiana!
Hope he's not wearing loafers.
It would be both so Ivy League and Wittmanesque (father like son premise here).
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There is no way
Brewer could repeat that shot. Just crazy
Our total inability to get defensive stops...
Makes me a little less than hopeful here…
At least I’m seeing some effort…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
yeah..
….it was ugly at the start of the 3rd.
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I haven't seen many games this year
but yikes, the D does look atrocious. Worse than the Vikes secondary.
We all know that art is not the truth, art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.--Picasso
If only the Wolves know how to play D
it would be competitive
If only the Knicks didn't have Eddie Curry and Jared Jeffries
they could sign someone to play with a superstar next year, but they do have them so they won’t get LeBron. Have fun over paying Joe Johnson.
Due to his scoring
or the complete lack of ball movement? Both look like 2008 to me
And how does he have only 22?
I would have sworn it was more before checking the box score. I guess it’s the lack of FT
I think when he shoots this well....
…and the wings shoot so poorly, that’s something we should live with.
It's still makes me laugh, I swear
one time he was boxed in by four guys and wouldn’t get rid of the ball. Of course nobody really came to his rescue either (perhaps because they figure he won’t pass it anyway). Just made me laugh is all.
I think bad habits should not be practiced
If he’s taking time to do the calculation of his shooting percentage and the shooting percentage of each player on the court during his possession (which I grant you he has more than enough time to do in most of those low block stand stills) than he is not learning to react to the defense with reflexes that should become automatic. I just think he should be practicing good basketball, and looking for players with open looks until it’s second nature.
Not sure it will ever be automatic for him
Especially with McHale spending the better part of two years telling him the exact opposite.
He does need to get better at it though. And the team needs to get better at giving him passing angles.
I’m just saying let’s not fault him too much in a game like this where he shot so well.
I have never seen someone...
Cock up an open dunk quite like Maggette just did…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
0-8 tonight...
Just sad…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I can see why GS loses so much...
Look at the horrible decision making so far in this quarter. Put a guy like Nash in charge of this team, and they win 50 this year…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Brewer
has been more efficient, because he’s giving up on taking a lot of poor shot. He’s starting to learn how he can use his skills to be an NBA player.
5 pt game
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Jefferson never gets that call
I’ve noticed he’s made more of an effort this year to take charges and he seems to never get the call.
What's with the "Jonny rubbing his nipples" thing?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
That play right there...
Is the perfect example of why Charging/Blocking is total BS in the NBA…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Who initiated the contact?
Maggette!!! What is Love supposed to do? Just let him go for an uncontested dunk?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
If Love is seriously hurt
I’ll see you all next year.
Looks bad...
Eerily similar to Big Al last year…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
But it was Love that committed the foul...
I’m so f’in pissed at that play and call. Hard to blame the refs when the rule is such BS…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Maggette..
took the title for Least Favorite Player in the League tonight. Got three awful calls, and tried to hurt Love.
yep
didn’t look like the knee buckled, but maybe a patella injury?
I can't watch the Wolves game
But the last 10 seconds of BOS-MIA were been incredible. Wade hits 2 FT’s with 6 seconds left to tie, then just takes it away from Allen at halfcourt and takes it in for the dunk and the lead at .6 seconds. Then BOS does an inbounds lob play to Rondo to send it to OT.
Not commenting on whatever happened to Love, because he’ll be fine. For real. A’ite?
Thank Jeebus...
The way they were carrying him off looked terrible…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Sweep the leg Kevin!!!
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
We all have our favorites...
But we can all agree that Flynn has sucked donkey tonight…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
i'll remove the "may"...
…from your statement. this was brutal. he looked like a high schooler out there.
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I'll let the box score do the talking....
by Rascal Flatts on Jan 6, 2010 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
We agree
He’s one of the reasons I record sucks.
by Rascal Flatts on Jan 6, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Dude, we're talking about tonight...
He was worse than bad. No one is saying he’s hopeless. Just admit he stunk tonight, and we’ll move on…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
trying too hard
cause of curry comparison?
by ChicagoViking on Jan 6, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
That's one of his key issues
He gets all jacked up over some of these matchups and it totally flubs up his decision making.
by Rascal Flatts on Jan 6, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously..
If you can’t agree Flynn has been bad tonight, then there’s no point in talking to you.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
If you can't agree the Wolves are bad,
then there is no point in talking. I agree.
What does this even mean?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
And "You're boy" is a part of that...
More than you apparently know…especially tonight.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
And you...
Didn’t capitalize “excuses” and then used a period…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Not all Flynn's
fault but league is catching up with him and spacing him on perimeter, not giving up drive, making him shoot. His D is beyond brutal no excuse for that. That is also Rambis’ fault. I haven’t seen ANY commitment to team D yet.
Jennings, Evans, Collison, Lawson...
…Paul, Williams
He has had a habit of of coming out too fast in those matchups
he'll get past this
he talked a lot about not minding playing with rubio, now not minding talk of drafting wall. he’s human. of course, he thinks about the comparisons. but, he’s playing good and could be great. not worried about a bad game here and there.
by ChicagoViking on Jan 6, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
These last two offensive boards
The Monta put-back and this one, were killers.
He looks okay.
I don’t think it’s anything to bad but he probably shouldn’t be out there right now.
by Bad News Wolves on Jan 6, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Just worried it's something serious...
…and he’s making it worse being out there. Admire the guts, but….
That's Flynn's
biggest drawback, his D. Ellis just housed him on box. Ellis is small and he kicked his butt. Not good!!!!
it's really bad...
…and when he makes bad passes on offense he doesn’t hustle back. it happened twice today and 2 times in the last game.
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makes you understand long sessions of sessions
flynn is better than sessions, but he’s got to control his emotions so he doesn’t completely make him tank a game
by ChicagoViking on Jan 6, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
flynn has bad game on court tonight
I’m 1 for 4 on grammar
by ChicagoViking on Jan 6, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Not hustling back after bad passes is
the thing that is really irritating. No excuse for that, when you screw up you should be motivated to correct your mistake, or at least stop it from escalating.
Well...gotta take the dog outside...
So she can make a heaping pile of “The Way We Played in the 1st Half.”
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against this team every shot should have been pounded inside - Jefferson, Love or someone drving the hoop
They couldn’t defend inside and everyone would have fouled out.
by Kevin Love Jefferson on Jan 6, 2010 9:52 PM CST reply actions
Too many turnovers
I think in general we had some success inside based on Love and Jefferson’s numbers, but there were just too many turnovers and not enough defense to start the game. Like the Indiana game, we handily “won” the second half, but got crushed in the first half and it was too big of a hole to climb out of.
by Rascal Flatts on Jan 6, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Once again a game over within minutes.
I don’t know how else to say this. I came in from jogging outside and the Wolves were ahead 8-2. Within just a minute or two, the game was over. I watched until the half, then checked back in intermittently. I did see Love go down and then return. But this team was toast right away. Very, very disappointing.
Looked like Love got nailed
in the nervy area where the knee reflexes after the doctor hits below the knee cap. Probably hurt for a few days but be OK.
Few Thoughts
1. SNP’s comment that when Jonny Flynn doesn’t score, he doesn’t contribute is 100 percent true. Simply Awful in all phases tonight.
2. Ellington needs more run, the White Hole needs no run.
3. I’m still regretting not picking Stephen Curry. His Off-Ball Movement and three point shooting could have made a really intresting fit with Love, Jefferson, and Rubio. This team wouldn’t have defended all that well- but they could have sure scored.
Does Curry need the defense caveat?
Regardless of what David Kahn would have you believe, Flynn’s defense has been nondescript at its best and a glaring liability at its worst. If we’re going to compare the team with Flynn versus Curry, defense needn’t enter the conversation.
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