FIBA Light (Wolves/Thunder Game Thread)
by Oceanary on Nov 22, 2010 7:12 PM CST
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Tonight, you get 3 members of this summer's 2010 Gold Medal FIBA team (Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, and Russell Westbrook) and another guy (Michael Beasley) that sure looks like he'll be on the next FIBA iteration.
Rest assured, all players will be wearing proper footwear.
KD and Jeff Green return to action tonight after missing two games....both Thunder wins....so buckle up. And check out our sister blog Welcome to Loud City. As always, be excellent to each other.
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Dont start that s-n-p stuff
The haters will get mad
Completely busy for a few days
Do you want to take the game wrap?
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Wes Johnson almost didn't hesitate on his first 3
If we can dump the “almost” he’ll start hitting them.
That's Deron WIlliam's move
that never gets called.
This is a freaking track meet
Westbrook with the Iceman layup, Wes with the power dunk less than 4 seconds later
Fun to watch, but this pace heavily favors the Thunder. We need to slow down and execute
Kobe ain't good enough to copy Brewer's shot.
Brew would win in ‘Horse’ w. horse puckey like that.
Wolves, it's time to "switch the flip".
the zone in was the clearest for me
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Was it super jumpy?
I doubt it is my machine….
zonein
is perfectly smooth but blurry. the channelsurfing.net was smooth also but extremely pixelly
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
if u want
channelsurfing.net
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
He's better than Darko
by a pretty wide margin…
Beas shut down KD that possession
You could see the “click” happen when he saw who he was guarding. Instant engagement
He can definitely learn to guard the 3.
He has the tools. Just want to see him get amped.
wut yall thank about jeff green
ta me it looks like his game in college and in de pros is night and day mayn now he juss jack up threes but i guess dass cuz he did ball handlin pause in gtown an now he play wit westbrook an kd
MAYN HOL UP!
He is the thunders glue guy
nothing more nothing less
Very solid all-around player
But at some point, the Thunder will need to accept he can’t be a power forward on a championship team
He's a team killer
at least at the four. And I suspect at the three he’s going to develop an Al Harrington type game (which is also team killing)
They were very very smart to not extend him.
If they can get him to accept a sixth man role, he's great for them
But he can start for other teams as a Tayshaun Prince type of player
And a lot of people made that argument
about Al Harrington a decade ago.
Certain people’s games just don’t help teams win (at all). Green is a defensive liability at the four or three is neither a prolific or efficient scorer and doesn’t rebound for anything at either position.
smh at de inception music in every commercial
i liked dat movie but dayum be original mayn
MAYN HOL UP!
nice pass
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Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:41 PM CST reply actions
Glad Thunder wasted all that energy in the Blitzkrieg. And we're still with 'em.
Wolves, it's time to "switch the flip".
I thought Oklahoma had
Big Country Bryant Reeves…no?
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 7:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Until at least February is sounds like
Heat are probably going to do what they should have done from the start now: sign Erick Dampier
Thank you
Why didnt they sign him in the 1st place
No idea
I like Joel Anthony, but when you’ve got a softie in Bosh at the 4 and are staring down the Celtics and Lakers for a title, you have to be big and tough in the paint
hate to admit but Chuckd summed up the Heat
when he said, “WTF is a Joel Anthony?”
I was really excited about the possibility of drafting him
But of course, Presti wouldn’t be stupid enough to miss him
we need somebody like him
Athletic runs the floor. Kahn be like buffet
Wow. Dark Lord.
He’s got the repost move down!
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 7:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
THE DARK ONE!
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:46 PM CST reply actions
Last year was
Hurt love and deal with the trash year
Beasley
2 assists so far
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:48 PM CST reply actions
And a sweet block on KD.
After his sick block on Kobe on transition the other night, he’s really starting to show something on D.
Commercial break discussion topic
Blake Griffin vs NY. DIscuss.
ya
I liked him a lot last year and in Summer League. But since we actually have some talent on this team I would much rather seem him ride the bench.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
Westbrook...
…singlehandedly destroys my theory that college shooting guards shouldn’t be NBA point guards
Timberwolves defense.
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Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
He's always played some point
He was a late bloomer and was only 5’10 until late in high school which was one big reason he had almost no big school offers until Howland brought him to UCLA. There he was the back up PG, but moving to SG to play alongside Collison was kind of a theme for guys who would be seen (incorrectly) as combo guards (see Jrue Holiday).
Wow.
What is the record for alley-oops in one game? I think OKC is gunning for it.
umm
lol… sorry.
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
fkin transition d!
all you have to do is run. for the love of jehosephat!
Rondo
He’s an absolute terror defensively.
Well I like Paul more than him
but out of those three I take Rondo.
But...
…would Rondo be as good as he is, numbers-wise at least, if he didn’t play on a team full of Hall-of-Famers? Westbrook deserves a lot of credit for improving a bad team as much as he has.
Rondo
That guy just gets it. You could not call a play all night and he’ll still direct a flawless offense
Yeah.
So could a lot of guys playing with KG, Pierce, and Jesus Shuttlesworth under Doc’s tutelage.
He was already showing signs of being excellent as a rookie
Before the arrival of KG or Allen and when it looked like Doc might not make it to the summer.
Showing signs...
…is different than being better than Derek Rose and Russell Westbrook.
Well he was better as a rookie
than either of them were as rookies …..
Yep and NBA awards are determined almost solely by PPG
Winning in the NBA, however, isn’t.
Is that a fact?
Do you vote for NBA awards?
Rondo dominated the BOS/CHI series when KG was out and PP and Allen both played terribly
He’s beyond the point of just coattailing the big three
Just because they played terribly...
…doesn’t mean they weren’t accounted for defensively. Games plans are still centered around stopping the Big Three. Whereas defenses game plan with Rose as the # 1 option every night.
Rose is number 1
Westbrook and Rodo are 2nd and 3th options I take rose
It is very team dependent.
In any case, Chris Paul is the best point guard in basketball. And Deron WIlliams is second, in my opinion.
Rose is a fantastic, fantastic player
But at the end of the day, he’s an undersized athletic 2 and I think that ends up hurting him. I want D-Will or Rondo.
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Yeah...
…I think Chris Paul to the NBA and the post season is like Tim Tebow to college football and the NFL. I see monkeywolf put down Nash. That was my pick when he was at his peak. Best shooter I’ve ever seen. I’m not a big fan of point guards being the best players on the team and I think D-Will walks right up to that line without blowing by it like Paul.
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Tim Tebow ???
That is nonsense WTF are you talking about. Chris Paul is that deal I would rather have Chris because he is quicker then D-will
The Tebow comparison...
…is a bit of a stretch but I understand the point being made. Again, so much depends upon what the given team needs.
i think you're missing something here
i’m saying he’s good like tebow was at a certain level but he is missing something to take the step to the next level.
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Rondo cant shoot to save his life
Chris Paul D-will and then rose
please
Who cares if he’s ancient. Nash is still in the conversation. Nash + anybody = playoffs. Don’t ask me how. He just makes it happen.
True that
That is my favorite player. I just wish he did not have that cheapskate of an owner they might have one a chip
Sarver?
You are blaming the Suns lack of a championship on Robert Sarver?How about D’antoni’s no-defense approach?
they were an average defensive team
adjusted for pace. sarver cost them joe johnson, rondo, and a few other picks.
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But...
…he was responsible for them getting Nash in the first place. The Suns had their chances, against the Spurs (Horry with the infamous hip-check which resulting in STAT and Diaw getting suspended) and last year against the Lakers. They just aren’t, and weren’t, built for playoff basketball.
No he was not it was thier GM
He is the GM for the Raptors now. If he did not have a cheapskate owner they would have one. The give up Rondo and Deng because their owner was cheap.
The "conversation" is a long one...
…and yes, I agree Nash is included. But his defense has never been any good. Jason Kidd should be included in the conversation as well.
Rondo
"I’d rather be losing to Orlando by 32, than be Indiana losing to the 76ers by 26 at halftime." -dropstep
come on beas.
he’s gotten schooled under the basket at least 4 times tonite.
Corey needs to take some close out lessons from Wes
Run an inside arc, not just straight into the guy
make up foul
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:03 PM CST reply actions
True, but usually he gets to the line
Points and the foul. Without the whistle he’s much much less effective on O.
so you saying with out the refs
Love is useless on O
No, just not much use in the paint
He finishes occasionally, but more often draws the contact. He’s still good from mid range and long range.
Brew needs to stop
He is on some bullshit tonight
Brew is an offensive train wreck
This has been a “known known” for four seasons. There is simply no accountability with him on either end of the court.
We just need to get a stop or two and finish the half strong
Darko in the second with heavy mins and Beasley turning it on should be enough. Thunder not doing much more than getting easy buckets on transition and blow D assignments
Athleticism shows up "in the stats"
or you can keep building straw men
Some good awareness by Beasley
Love’s pick knocked Westbrook off him and he immediately gunned to the hoop against the slower Green
Teams don't miss
against us ever
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:09 PM CST reply actions
I think...
…our defense could be a factor.
what was up with the two security guards?
Protecting the refs from those meddlesome complaining players?!
I hate Wes'...
…free throw shooting.
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:12 PM CST reply actions
It is funny to hear the OKC announcers complain about that call
They are the far, far more physical team and have been called for less fouls and have a 4 FT advantage (counting the two Johnson are about to shoot).
Considering our lack of deep D tonight, we are fortunate to be close as we are.
Wolves, it's time to "switch the flip".
Wes has earned a big ole WTF
He’s played like crap the last three games, rookie or not. CRAP. Decent defense, but CRAP.
Hitting the proverbial "rookie wall"...
…perhaps?
Not that good
and that was likely known from his college production is just as likely.
NBA is rigged
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:13 PM CST reply actions
Wow, that's about the definition of a block
sliding backwards, not stationary ….
Yeah this one's getting away
We don’t win when we give up more than 110. We need Darko for the entire second half.
Indiana leads Miami
66-56 3rd
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
Definitely need guys to know who & where's behind them on the way to the
iron. They’re getting caught looking down-court, while they guy behind them is
launching to the hoop.
Wolves, it's time to "switch the flip".
SNP
Any chance of a rally recipe? A grilled cheese sandwich could be all that’s standing in our way of a W.
get some head country bbq
rub it on everything. eat. enjoy.
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You mean the Rick
that said he disowned the Wolves this past summer?
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
also less all smoke wun for de firing uv brad childress
i know football mayn. Chilldress iz de biggess c*** i eva seen. nuff sed
MAYN HOL UP!
appreciate it mayn...
…and although I don’t always understand what you are saying, when I do, it is enlightening.
Darko is the only one that plays D
Love and Beas are bad at D
WHY DONT THEY MISS!
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:34 PM CST reply actions
I wonder if any team in the league
besides the Wolves would so consistently dedicate offensive possessions to players as bad as Darko and Brewer.
not many, but
Darko’s be alright for 3 1/2 games now
No reason to suggest his recent streak of hot play
is who he is as a player rather than the entirety of this season or the entirety of his career before this season. There is no hot hand.
That's not what he said.
But everybody gets your point.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 8:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
When Darko's dunking and passing as much as going to his hook shot
keep feeding him, but if it’s hook hook hook stop.
My only consolation is that the 'Superteam' w. Super Stars keeps getting stomped.
Wolves, it's time to "switch the flip".
I love Durant
but he gets away with absolute murder on both ends.
No.
They just get foul calls on shit that has zero contact. if they take a jumper with no player within 3 feet and it misses. a whistle gets called.
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Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
It's not that bad
But it is pretty egregious. They are getting touch fouls on offense and absolutely killing the Wolves on defense.
It is close to impossible for Love and Beasley to combine for this many minutes 22 FGAs and TOs and only take one FT.
fantastic players
We Are the Washington Generals
by Eric in Madison on Nov 22, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
Durant uses those elbows all the time to create space. They finally call him.
Wolves, it's time to "switch the flip".
hell yes Darko
you are faster than other big men
Darko alters the shot and causes the TO
I like it.
Is the color guy Rick Barry? Sounds like him. He likes Darko's new 'tude.
Wolves, it's time to "switch the flip".
First time I’ve ever heard an announcer mention a political party during the game.
Wasn’t really in a bad way, kinda tho.
No biggie, just odd to hear.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 8:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
so was the dude behind her
shades of Pulp Fiction
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
wolves can get back into games really fast
i dont remember other wolves teams that could turn it around so fast.
Doesn't show up in the box score
but damn it, it matters.
Jim Pete...
…discussing Rambis’ player development: the best asset of his coaching.
We’ve got nobody that can guard Westbrook
You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.
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by J_R_W on Nov 22, 2010 8:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'd put Gaines in
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Our PGs are all bad defensively
Add that to Westbrook being a load to handle already and he’s killing us. I’d go Gaines. and hope for a break.
I'm not certain Darko is the answer
but I can barely watch when neither he or Tolliver are on the floor
Grant Long
reminds me of the Grandfather from the Boondocks.
Tolliver d’ing up During pretty well
You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.
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by J_R_W on Nov 22, 2010 8:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
- Durant
You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.
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by J_R_W on Nov 22, 2010 8:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He can play man.
He only seems to hurt us when he comes off his man to early or late on help D down low.
Nice defensive stop
there and a ridnour three helps.
He's been trying all year
and the best part is that was actually a charge not the typical case where 80% of charges called in the NBA are actually blocks.
Would much rather have seen Love just shoot that 3 at the end of that 3rd.
He was open, but hesitated, and that’s why he had to put it on the floor.
I'm pretty sure he wanted the easy two there on Collison
No idea why a foul wasn’t called.
As hard as OKC has played, we are right there. Heal, Webster.
Wolves, it's time to "switch the flip".
6!!!
Darko-Tolliver_Love here.
Interesting.
Ya I like this lineup
Esp. when Beasley I strugglin
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Darko with the right hook!
Player of the game for MN
Hahahahahah
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:06 PM CST reply actions
"Hey, are Wes Johnson and Corey Brewer going to be participating in the ball-handling clinic?"
- comment from my fiance
I am playing against K-Love in fantasy right now.
He is killing me.
I started with K-Love and Darko at the beginning of the season
(I always do crap like that, so I never win fantasy)…. I am rueing the day I dropped Darko (when his hdeous offense was killing me).
Darko had like 65 fan points against the Lakers.
Craziness. I don’t blame you for dropping him considering his start though. I dropped Tolliver after drafting him.
THE DARK ONE!
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:06 PM CST reply actions
manna from heaven!
You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.
twitter.com/JayAreW
by J_R_W on Nov 22, 2010 9:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
A Nene-Love comparison
I’m starting to love the Grant Long era
Keep it going
Darko and Tolliver D it up
Love board and hit the open shots
Luke distribute
Darko on mother-effing fire
He has drawn a double or triple team every time he has touched the ball.
His decision making is not half bad and will get better…
Nice to see other players stepping up
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
THE LEAD!
"This town, this night, this crowd
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:09 PM CST reply actions
manna from heaven
on that pass
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MANNNA!
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:11 PM CST reply actions
OMG DARKO!
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:12 PM CST reply actions
He’s doing what a big is supposed to do
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by J_R_W on Nov 22, 2010 9:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Mother-effer!!!
Darko is hitting the side of a fish big time!!
this is better than his LA game
whatever the stats
Like I said earlier
Darko leaves we are up by two 7 mins later down 11
He is huge on both ends when he’s got his head out of his ass
It's great to see Beasley and Darko
revive their play, no?
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
We maybe better than Oklahoma in the half court
Crazy thought. They are rocking us in transition.
Is that Darko out there...
or Chris Webber?!?!?!?!
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:15 PM CST reply actions
We need to lock Dark Lord up for like 4 years
Oh, wait.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
It's gonna cost like 40-50MM tho
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
OKC's weak spot: big man
keep feeding Darko, please.
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
Ridnour was ~ +26 last time I checked.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm assuming he starts next game ....
or soon at least
We're playing
Ridnour_Beasley-Tolliver_Love-Darko
Who said Rambis was inflexible?
wtf luke
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:20 PM CST reply actions
We punched...
They’ve countered…let’s go Alpha Wolf, time to step up
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:20 PM CST reply actions
How do we not run the offense thru Darko there?
Unbelievable
Looked like Flynn from last year...
Too much dribbling
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't you know..
…Darko is the Alpha Wolf not Beasley.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
GREAT!
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:22 PM CST reply actions
yes but it would be nice to see them pull away for once
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
I think it's way, way easier to swallow....
After a gutty comeback against this Thunder team, rather than after a sloppy, uneven game against Charlotte.
Three Man Weave
Great Play call Kurt! It is like taking 11 seconds of the shot clock and lighting it on fire.
Why did we stop feeding Darko?
You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.
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by J_R_W on Nov 22, 2010 9:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
how has darko not touched the ball in the last 3 minutes
rambis, coach!
They stopped feeding Darko
He’s been brilliant. Not sure I understand going to the weak side the last few possessions.
Just need to slow down...
The crowd is rattling us right now…slow down and work the hi low with Beasley/Darko…
Darko needs to keep reposting so he can get the ball on the block instead of getting stuck on the baseline…
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:24 PM CST reply actions
Simmons twitter
feed darko!!!
wes/beas on the wing. they are overcompensating for darko in the hole. the three will be open
Yeah, that's a sure sign of sports fan desperation
or a herald of the apocalypse
Regardless of what happens...
…this has been a weird ass season. The Wolves were off to a historically bad start and Darko was shooting 20% from the field. Suddenly, they’re different teams/players. Radically so.
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I've enjoyed this weird ass season so far
at least the radically different part of it.
It's amazing
Beasley, Darko, Love, haven’t ever been given this chance. They are seizing their moment…
I experienced this in Highschool
finally once I got some PT, it was like holy shit, why weren’t we playing this guy…
It's exciting
now, if they can just win some close games at the end.
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
Ahh . . .
. . . I see the red pills are starting to kick in.
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Wolves needed some blue pills at the end
they just couldn’t keep it up.
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
the blue pills
only stopped my fingers from hitting “publish” on the red pill posts in the past 2 weeks. the december schedule is murder and even kahn was trying to downplay what is about to happen to this squad (see his KFAN interview)
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Got away with an egregious defensive three second there
And HOW THE F*CK was the not a foul under the basket?
Terrible luck on that Green three...
Darko’s help D on Durant was epic…ahhhhhhhhh
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:27 PM CST reply actions
That's the way it bounces sometimes
looked good up till it squirted free.
Fuck
That sucked
We Are the Washington Generals
by Eric in Madison on Nov 22, 2010 9:28 PM CST reply actions
That was some BS
Some Thunder player took out like 3 Wolves when he fell over.
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including love..
…who would have had the rebound
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and the announcer even SAID
that he took out 3 players.
by davechisholm on Nov 22, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
of course, they failed to acknowledge that it was a foul.
just that he ‘took out’ 3 wolves.
by davechisholm on Nov 22, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
Funny that the OKC announcers failed to notice it, and yet
they notice any contact by any wolves player
How the hell did Kahn try to make a running team and
end up with a TO prone running team that’s better than the Thunder in the half court?
by Airete on Nov 22, 2010 9:28 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
because there is no plan and everything he does is by accident
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some of it will work
most of it will not.
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because it will never stop being baffling
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So we just need to fire him soon and keep
Darko Beasley Love and get someone smarter to add to it.
The guy can't win with you
If moves don’t work out he screwed up and if they do work out he just lucked into it.
Not calling him exec of the year but do you realize how dumb that sounds?
on a 4 win team that won 15 games last year?
do you have any idea how dumb your question sounds?
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You dodged my point
Your whole thought process makes it impossible for him to ever do anything right. Your just stubborn.
Fine
Enjoy the Wolves’ version of Chilly as he takes his team to their equivalent of the conference finals. Just don’t tell me that my foresight wasn’t hindsight when his complete lack of basketball insight comes back to bite the team in the ass…which will be well before Jonny Flynn becomes a stout man-on-man defender.
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"equivalent of"
which, for the wolves, is apparently 25 wins.
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Do you want some cheese with that wine
I know you loved Curry but come on man. Curry got his ass lite up in his last game by Raymond fu!@in felton.
Yeow, hasty...
We don’t know how it will all turn out yet, man. Or who will be here (Kahn or whomever else). We promise we will acknowledge your foresight if he/the team crashes and burns BUT it’s not a foregone conclusion.
granted...
….it’s not a foregone conclusion, but please….write my name down now in the “he’s a chilly” column. he’s very good at making pitches to people with lots of money. i’ll give him that. otherwise, not so much.
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I hear you.
Frankly, I just feel bad that everyone attacking you for your opinions about Kahn (and your feelings about him and his decisions), seem to be coloring your view of the whole team and perhaps negatively impacting your enjoyment of it.
Many of us were lurking around here when you were slogging through the crap of every game. Now that things are actually looking up (whether through blind luck or someone’s skill or what), you kind of deserve to feel a little hopeful, maybe? And focus less on the negative?
that's a really good insight
i’m excited about the team and hopeful for beasley and one more high draft pick that kahn can’t possibly screw up. i’m really interested in seeing how darko plays out this year and whether or not beasley can be The Guy. i don’t know of any other better way to put it for the casual sports fan, but kahn = chilly. it’s not going to end well.
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NO you dont
You want the GM to pick the guys you want. and then whine all season long if they don’t pick your guys
Hey, chuck
Why don’t you lay off for a little bit?
by PDGirl on Nov 22, 2010 10:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why should I
This is what makes me sick about this site sometimes everybody else does the same think but I am the only one people have a problem with. That is just garbage
You absolutely have the right to state your opinions
And you do so. I just think repeating the same points over and over at every opportunity can get a little tiresome. And maybe people would listen to you more, if you chose your sports and showed a little more restraint.
No people would not listen to me
Because I have a different opinion than they do. I don’t came here to get my option validated. If I did I wold repeat the same garbage that everyone has been saying. Love is Great Rambis and Kahn are stupid and DMC is the next shaq.
you rarely back up your opinions
with evidence.
by davechisholm on Nov 22, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
I have evidence.
But its the type you stat head dont like. I can say look Klove plays no D. I see him get abused by bums and scrubs. I point this out and people call me racist. There has even been articles written about Loves lack of D. but it does not somehow count when I say it.
You rarely say anything good
about Love’s strengths, only complements him when you are forced into a corner. I think maby thats why some people often disagree with you.
When I say good thing about him
It gets glossed over. I criticized every player. but those criticisms never gets noticed. Ever since we gotten Beasley I have said Beasley cant guard 3’s. But Nobody pays attention to this .But If I say love cant play d against athletic 4’s then the whole sites comes against me.
you saying that a dude can't play d
isn’t the same thing as empirical, solid evidence. sorry, man.
by davechisholm on Nov 22, 2010 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
Chose your spots
And I only mentioned this here b/c it seemed a little like “pile on SnP” night, and that was why I thought this was a particularly bad spot.
Not trying to start a dispute.
This "piling" on
happens to me every time I say something on this site. People are being kind to S-N-P compared to what they say to me.
I may not agree with you
and may disagree with you at times, even debate a point or two. But I respect your right to say what you choose.
Via la Liberty
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
Hold on there, Chuck
Some people have a problem with the reactionary way you refer to others as “fools” when they disagree with you. You insulted “most people on this site” often enough to make most people (or at least many people, including me) dislike you. That’s on you.
Factor in your strange obsession with race, and yes, you do have a different CH experience than most. But don’t for a second try to say that it’s because you have a different opinion.
I like much of what your write here SnP,
but perhaps you should drop the Kahn=Childress analogy, even for casual fans.
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
I like Kahn....
So long as he’s not extended. He came in and over-hauled the roster. Did some remarkable work in changing things quickly. Now that we are moving in the right direction I would like someone with a proven history.
Agreed.
Offer him a job to stay on in some kind of cap-management role, and then hire a talent evaluator or else promote Ronzone for the more delicate fine-tuning stuff.
remember...
…that he was hired because he “knew the cap”….when he last worked in the nba during a prior cba and before he bankrupted some d-league…never mind, i give up: the guy’s a genius. the only genius on the planet to run a 4 win team.
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Honestly man you are just insane about this
Team has looked so much better lately, tonight nearly coming back to beat a team you seem to think is run perfectly on the road with a bunch of guys hurt, and your ripping the front office. Give it up, you are buzz killing your own blog, and you are childish and stubborn.
Lol I'm not cursing or anything
Are “childish” and “stubborn” all that hurtful? I respect his takes alot, have said that many times.
Plus he acted like I don’t know what equivalent means.. lol
I'm sure not hurtful.
SnP has heard far worse I’m sure. Just seemed like you made your point and then threw in the “childish and stubborn” for no reason.
It’s all good. I respect your argument. Just think we can keep things on the level.
i think..
..there has always been a fairly clear delineation between the articles on this site and what is below the fold. i’ve avoided the buzzkill aspect of what you can find down here in the comments in the main articles and i think that has shown itself to be true at the end of the sitemeter day. i think i’ve held true in terms of keeping the majority of this site (i.e. the stuff above the fold) away from this sort of talk since i said i would focus on the on-the-court product. i view the comments section as a place where folks can just shoot-the shit about whatever.
look, i’m a big boy and as tim has mentioned i’ve heard far worse (especially by my drill instructor) but i just want to make it clear that i think that people who buy into kahn are getting a bill of goods that does not match up with what they think they are buying. ronzone, yes. rambis, maybe. kahn, definitely not. if that’s going to get called stubborn and childish, fine.
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Agree with you. My point...
… Was never that Kahn is a genius, it was more about the “anything good that happens is just blind luck” approach. It is a stubborn thought process.
by MoreJuice on Nov 22, 2010 10:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
speak you mind
If you think Kahn is a moron you should say so. group think is bad for this world and this site. Now you just have gotten a little taste of what I get on a constant bases. It sucks don’t it
You are off tonight
You mock my orignal question by reminding me thath the Wolves have 4 wins this year and 15 all of last year, then you make it seem like the Timberwolves making a conference finals run would be a bad thing
my god
“equivalent” of . seriously.
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i don't know how much clearer i could have been
“equivalent of”
which, for the wolves, is apparently 25 wins.
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Yeah I saw that after, had to scroll up
That wasn’t in your original analagy, and it still doesn’t make much sense. You appear to be beaten down beyond any and all hope.
No I think Juice got a point dude
I know you want your normal GM to save us. But give him some credit.
Beasley is his only good move
Darko is all Rambis…as many other people here have already noted. Thank God Ronzone is around otherwise you’re looking at the NBA version of Al Davis: get the tallest, longest, fastest guy.
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The fact that he's made decisions based on what Rambis and Ronzone
have said should speak in his favor, not against it. He still made the move, didn’t he?
that's too simplistic, especially coming from you
His good moves have been clearing money from the rostor. Beasley was just the apparent effect.
by midlife crisis on Nov 22, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
the roster clearing moves with the cap
were already set in place by the last regime. this team has spent exactly zero dollars above and beyond what was already cleared off the books by hoiberg etc.
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Oh, take both pills
We’re semi-competitive (that’s a joke; it’s like being semi-pregnant). It was a fun game. We have developing talent. We are the redeem team. Just enjoy it for a while or we’ll take away your kimchi.
That's partly true
McHale went out really well. Small area quickness was brilliant, and he did seem to know how to make his players work.
But don’t forget the return Kahn got from Foye/miller
by midlife crisis on Nov 22, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
That means he is listening to those that know the game better
Which, by your own description of his “basketball acumen” would be a good thing.
or...
…that there is no real structure over there. look, i’m not saying that there is no way that there cannot be good things over there. what happened with the vikes is a good example of what is happening with the wolves. can they still get jarred allen? yes. can they still have a broken executive process that causes political vacuums and weird decisions? yes. does the guy in charge have a resume that fits his power? no. does he appear like he can surprise anyone? no.
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Miller + Foye was a great trade
The Rubio circus aside, that is a fantastic trade when viewed as a standalone transaction no?
S-N-P is still mad
We did not take DMC and Curry.
Curry that plays no D. and the DMC that has an attitude problem and fouls too much
Curry plays better D than Flynn
… at least while Flynn is rehabbing in the swimming pool
by midlife crisis on Nov 22, 2010 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
They play d about the same
But Flynn has the tools to be better unlike Curry
We must be watching different basketball players
Look, I’ll be happy if Flynn turns into Jason Terry mk.II, but it doesn’t seem likely. Curry was and probably will be the far better player in this league, and Kahn blowing what seemed like an obvious pick is one big strike against him in my book.
by aarendsvark on Nov 22, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Nope I agree he took the worng guy
But its not Curry, He should have taken Jennings
Word.
I agree. Jennings is the truth. But a lot of people around here don’t like him. Some don’t give him any credit for Milwaukee’s great year last year.
People here dont know the
Difference between playing for a playoff team as compared to a take any shot team.
Seriously
I have no idea how they’re so terrible on the break.
Beasley can get that pull up jumper whenever he wants it...
Win or lose, let’s do it with Beasley/Darko, Love crashes the glass on every shot
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:29 PM CST reply actions
30-16 FT advantage for the Thunder
the only way this game is even close.
Love and Beasley – 3FTAs/34FGAs
With all due respect
Screw that! :)
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Bob Delaney is going to reverse this
despite obviously making a dead ball call? Really?
What the Wolves should do ...
is get the game tape, send it to the league and point it out. That was awful.
Two shots and the ball...
That’s a terrible rule but it’s in our favor so I’ll take it
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:30 PM CST reply actions
Actually it is a great rule
people forget how ugly inbounding the ball late in games was before they put in place.
Beasley will learn to make that pass...
Got tunnel vision going to the basket
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:31 PM CST reply actions
I thought Artest's comments were spot on...
And much more complimentary than critical…
Artest has the crazy rep (granted, it’s earned) but he’s also very observant.
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
How in the fudge are we not going tru Darko?
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Tired of moral victories
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
This is just another close loss
If the wolves go back to getting blown out regularly, we can talk about moral victories. They just loss this game.
Here, try this red pill
washed down with a swig of Hairy Back Belgian Lager Winter Ale.
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No such thing...
…as a moral victory.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
True, but this is an encouraging game.
We’re not on the level where we can win a close game in Oklahoma City. That’s to be expected, but we’re way damn closer than I would’ve thought.
And we appear to be truthfully, in a non-flukey way, approaching the level where we can hang with the Thunder at home into the last minute. That’s a giant leap forward from last year, and even earlier this year. OKC lost exactly this type of game all year a few years ago. The next step is the ability to win these games, and this has me encouraged that we’ll make that step in time.
I agree with and appreciate this.
It’s a huge bummer, but if you’re going to follow this team and not make yourself miserable, this is a game you’ll have to take at least a little solace in. Lots of positives and things to take moving forward.
GOD DAMNIT!
WTF MAN WHY CAN"T WE JUST CLOSE A GOD DAMN GAME. I NEED ONE SPORT ONE SPORT FROM MINNESOTA I CAN RELY ON!
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 22, 2010 9:32 PM CST reply actions
"U wrestling?"
Why, yes I am. With my wife, who doesn’t seem to understand her duties as my chattel.
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rambis has been playing these games to win
we are just too young and inexperienced to close it out. i’ll take it though.
really? how has rambis been playing the games to win?
benching beasley in the 4th? how does rambis get any credit for playing to win?
by davechisholm on Nov 22, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
not running any plays through the hot players?
darko was nailing them through the wall, and got us the lead almost single handedly. THEN NO PLAYS ARE RUN FOR HIM. /RAMBIS
by davechisholm on Nov 22, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
The could not get him the ball
Thunder played good D
that's bullshit.
beas swallowed the ball on at least two possessions and ridnour dribbled and ran the clock out.
by davechisholm on Nov 22, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
fucking darko got us the lead.
it was, what, 5 possessions in a row that he either scored or assisted a bucket. that’s a hot hand, i’d say.
by davechisholm on Nov 22, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
You've clearly never shot a basketball
I know when I’m hot. My brain tells me so.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I know when I'm hot
… that’s when, after several drinks, I hit on my wife to be
by midlife crisis on Nov 22, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
your brain is wrong
just like it is when it tells you that that really hot chick is…oh yeah, the wife to be comment is below ;)
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Horrible Refs.
They have been calling everything for the Thunderers. BS.
It's going to pass
Right now we are going from historically sucky to respectable. The calls follow respectibility, with a pretty significant lag
by midlife crisis on Nov 22, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
We don't control the whistles
That’s all the difference. Not saying he was fouled, but last Beasley drive they whistle KD and this is a different game.
with 54 seconds
we were down two with the ball with a possible call of a foul before the inbounds. Then they decided no foul on the inbounds, beas raped on his drive to basket, foul on beasley, two free throws and on and on. NBA refs call it in favor of the team they expect to be good. They swing close games over and over and over again.
by monkeywolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:35 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
don't like to see beas look defeated.
on the upside, Darko could have developed. next, we need Wes to start hitting from downtown to keep the d from collapsing. will open up a lot.
Last time I checked earlier today...
The Vegas line on this game was even (the expectation was that Durant and Green would be out)…
I would never bet against the Wolves on principle but I bet a lot of people made money on this game…
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:37 PM CST reply actions
It's over, but it wasn't the players who decided it.
Thunder outplayed the Wolves for a half. Got beat and then saved by the refs. I’d be pissed if I thought our win total this year mattered much.
There is nothing positive to take from this.
Period. Enough of that bs.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm not really a super-optimist.
But I disagree. The ‘nothing positive’ game would have been had we let it get away from us when they were up by 15 in the late third quarter. I know it sucks losing close games, but don’t lose sight of where we were in the third quarter, and then where we were with a few minutes to go.
Phase 1 is getting blown out every night. Then you start to compete with good teams, and then you start to win consistently at home, and then you start to take games on the road. Can’t expect us to shoot right to the top. We’re flat-out not good enough to win a close game with OKC on the road. But we’re making strides toward that, and we appear to be firmly past the days of an easy night off for contending teams.
I respect your opinion.
You’ve stated your case. Now I’ll state mine.
There is nothing positive to take from this game. Period:)
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's time for a big step.
Player X having a good game (unless it’s Wes demanding the ball on offense or Ridnour crushing his man on D) doesn’t move the meter.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 10:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed on that.
But we’ve really only just moved past the blowout, other-team-is-laughing-on-the-bench-in-the-third-quarter stage. I’d expect us to stay around where we’re at for a while.
I’ll remain encouraged by games like this (where we take steps in proving that we’re actually good enough to hang with most teams) until the latter part of this year.
You must not have paid attention to Darko
If Darko keeps playing like he has for the last 4 games. He will be a top 5 Western Conference Center for about 5 million a year. I didn’t think playoffs were possible before the year started and so the wins/losses decided by whistles aren’t going to piss me off that much. What I’m concerned about is how is the team competing. This team did not lay down and played well into the 4th. Darko is putting the ball on the floor, passing and drawing contact and dominating on the Defensive end. KLove is already an extremely talented glue guy. Beasley is a very talented scorer. Darko is showing signs of being the third piece of a playoff team. If he averages 10 points 6 boards and 2.5 blocks I’d be content. His ceiling has always been much higher and now he’d showing it.
I've probably missed less than 10 minutes of Darko
As a Wolf.
I had an awesome time watching Dark Lord tonight too, but everything he showed tonight we all KNEW he could do already.
Him doing it again doesn’t come close to covering up the horror of the last few minutes.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Won't argue about the last 10 mins
but my excitement about Darko is that he’s putting together a string of solid performances. Any type of positive consistency from him is game altering. My stated goal has been to be competitive late into the 4th in 60 games this year. It won’t make many fans happy, but it met my criteria.
If that loss doesn't crush your soul into ashes
Then I can’t help ya, man. Something wrong with you:)
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 10:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Watching the Wolves get the third pick when..
Shaq and Mourning were on the board hurt me far worse than anything other than serious injury to KLove Darko, Beasley and or Wes would this year.
OK but that's the lottery. It's just ping pong balls...
And a motor causing a difference in air pressure which makes a ball get “sucked” into a tube.
There is no blame to pin on anyone.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 10:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think...
…the environment contributed to Beasley’s ineffectiveness tonight. Playing against his friend, and superstar, Kevin Durant might have altered the confidence he had going. Given more chances like tonight, I think Beasley will be just fine.
I think so
He was too hype up for this game
He's played almost 200 NBA games
No excuses I don’t think.
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 9:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
200 games as D-Wade's shunned understudy...
…is different than being the go-to-guy against a very good OKC team at home. Not an excuse, an observation.
The shunned understudy was "allowed"
To score +20 almost 40 times in Miami.
It’s not like they kept him locked in a basement.
It’s OK to see the bright side after a loss, but there is a time to get ticked too!
by fanslaststand on Nov 22, 2010 10:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
When Dwade got hurt
That was the only time the let him shine
didn't seem to affect Love
who just put up a dismal performance, and was playing against former Bruin team mate and star, Russell Westbrook.
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
Russel and love
Don’t have the same bond has KD and Beas do. He was supposed to be better than kd but has trouble finding his grove yet. He had a bad game just like love had his doughnut game it happens
it was an analogy intended to counter the OP
I don’t think that playing against friends or team mates will rarely adversely affect one’s performance (at least at this level).
"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)
But you weren't so quick to dismiss Love's bad game.
Just joshing, though. No sense going down that road again.
I still feel
that love is an over-hyped glue guy. I would rather have a guy that plays d and gets rebound because that is his job instead of being a stat whore that plays no D
I'll say it's unlikely he took 20 FG's
and was only fouled for 3 FTA’s. He does take a lot of open jumpers, but he drove to the basket several times. The one late in the game was a killer.
These Jon Heder commercials after the loss...
are rubbing salt in the wound..
POW!!!!!!
by LosAngelesTWolf on Nov 22, 2010 9:41 PM CST reply actions
Really irritating. I don't even know what they are selling
I just look elsewhere
but what about shapeups?!
doesn’t karl malone make you want to buy them? ;)
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That commercial makes me so sad
Especially when I compare it to Dr J’s new Converse commercial. Karl Malone just falls straight off the dignity ladder
Every single game I watch
I see something to be optimistic about. Tonight, Darko put up another solid game to follow up his performance against the Lakers. There are big time teams with relatively skilled centers. The Wolves are inexperienced, and when they figure out how to combine all their talent into a single game, they will be a very solid team. I’m trying really hard to be patient until then.
Lols just chill.
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