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Kevin Love and Wesley Johnson with the most awkward handshake ever.

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Better to laugh today than all the crying we were doing last night.

by Boss10 on Nov 4, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

In college, Demarcus Cousins was much better at the low five than Wes Johnson.

Just sayin’, we had to expect this. Wes has the smile, Cousins has the low five.

I haven't written an insightful post in years.

by littleboxes on Nov 4, 2010 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Wes's arms are too long for the low 5.

Btw…look at Wes try to dunk that ball.
I love this kid.

by fanslaststand on Nov 4, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The half-crouch is almost touching.

Sometimes the teammates just don’t see you.

Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH

by feral on Nov 4, 2010 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

What's the purpose of the hand slap, anyway?

Why do they always HAVE to congratulate each other after a free throw? Is making one, or even attempting to make one, that big a deal? Or is it rooted in some sort of superstition? And they HAVE to slap hands with EVERY teammate after EVERY free throw attempt. It’s silly, and a waste of time. They should ban the practice, ESPECIALLY if they’re down by 42 points.

by Mano on Nov 4, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sorry, but that article is nonsense. LOL.

Hand slapping at the free throw line is universally practiced, from the top teams to the bottom feeders. I’m impressed you were able to even find an article that touches on the subject, but I seriously doubt a slap on the ass is going to improve our fortunes as much as a kick in the ass would.

by Mano on Nov 4, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not nonsense.

Regardless of the study, it’s never harmful to give some encouragement. It’s important for the good teams but its especially important for teams down 42 points to, you know, not give up and all that since they still have people supporting one another. It’s called teamwork.

by TimAllen on Nov 4, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying it's a bad thing

There just doesn’t seem to be any evidence that it helps you win. If that were the case, every team would be a winner.

by Mano on Nov 4, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

You said they should ban the practice?

That’s not saying its a bad thing? =P

Clearly, based on the example above, some teams are better at the touching thing than others.

by TimAllen on Nov 4, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just unnecessary

Instead of concentrating on making the bucket, the player might be looking behind him to see who forgot to slap his hand. It interfers with what he should be concentrating on, which is making the basket. And from what I’ve seen of our free throw shooting so far, we need all the concentration we can get. Ban it. It’s just silly superstition, kinda like thanking God when you get a single.

by Mano on Nov 4, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or like KG or LeBron throwing up a handful of chalk before a game

Or KG’s ritual before every game. You ever see it? He’s always the last player on the court, he always wipes his shoes before entering the court…he’s either very superstitious, or he has OCD. All the rituals done over the years never helped him win a championship. All the high fives, the butt slaps, the powder, the foot wipes…. Nothing helped until he was finally surrounded with enough talent to win. And in the end, talent is ALL that matters.

by Mano on Nov 4, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, pre-game rituals won't win anything by themselves

but they give players confidence and that is pretty important, too. If Kevin Garnett or LeBron is more locked in because he performs a ritual that he believes helps him, then they should do it. It doesn’t bother anybody. I don’t see what the big deal is.

by TimAllen on Nov 4, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another ritual he did was swat the ball away

after the whistle blew, when the other team tried to make a meaningless basket. All those years of unnecessarily jumping to block meaningless baskets may have taken a toll on him, and could be the reason he has broken down the past few years. Another unnecessary, meaningless ritual performed in the name of winning, when all it really did was shorten his career and made him less effective (although I did get a kick out of it).

by Mano on Nov 4, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they should have electric carts bring the players

out to the court so they don’t have to exert themselves walking from the locker room.

by TimAllen on Nov 4, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think Rambis is losing that team

They’ve tried to play the way he taught them, then they go out and lose by the worst margin in history, bettering the record set by…..Kurt Rambis and last years team. He already owns the worst season record in their history, and now owns the 2 worst margin of defeats in their history. Worse than Wittman, worse than McKloskey, Worse than McFail. Kurt Rambis is the worst coach in the history of the Wolves, at least so far. Maybe he should high five Bill LameBeer.

by Mano on Nov 4, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol...

@KG comment: Yes, that must be why he has bad knees.

@Rambis comment: We’ve played 4 games. Without Webster. Last night with out Beasley. Refer to my sig.

Lols just chill.

by Fli on Nov 4, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stand by my argument of the worst coach so far

and a 1-4 start doesn’t begin to help that record. Sure, I’ll chill. But I want to see some progress. So far, all I’ve witnessed is abject failure to a monumental degree. I’ll chill when we start to be competitive. Up to this point, we’re far from it.

by Mano on Nov 5, 2010 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Regarding KG's bad knees

let’s say he skied to blocks shots unnecessarily an average of 4 times a game. Multiply that by 82 games a year for 15 years, and you have 5,040 times of unnecessary pounding on on his knees. Now, i’m not saying it caused his troubles, but because of his superstitious beliefs, he probably shaved a few healthy years of effectiveness from his resume’. I don’t think he still practices that habit, though.

by Mano on Nov 6, 2010 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tim Allen quotes science!

p.s. i love that study, i remember when it came out and i thought of all the work teams I’ve been on. Definitely been true in my experience.

by Django Z on Nov 4, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't read it in a while

But I wonder if they accounted for how much of it is symptomatic of the chemistry and comfort that make touching more common.

by nja700 on Nov 5, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard they study the same studies on doubles partners in tennis

And the more contact between them, the better they are.

Mano, are you from a Scandinavian with a touch issues? ;)

by Rodman99 on Nov 4, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugg Horse-face?

There are some hot female tennis stars, she is not one of them.

by zebano on Nov 5, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

he didn't say caress her face

I’m just saying.

No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.

by TheEvilProfessor on Nov 5, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

                  Her fiancee might not agree with you, either

by Mano on Nov 6, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd volley it

Ahh, the thin line between homerism and objectivity

by WhiteManCantWrite on Nov 5, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correlations aren't causal.
“Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley have found that NBA teams that are touchy — as in giving high fives, hugs, pats on the back, etc. — are more successful.”

The researchers claim they’ve controlled for the obvious causal relationship – winning teams tend to be high-fiving each other – by concentrating only on “the first few months of the season.”

Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH

by feral on Nov 5, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

what a joke

what the hell discipline are these researchers involved with and do they have tenure?

I haven't written an insightful post in years.

by littleboxes on Nov 5, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I refrain from condeming research until reading it

Mostly because reporting of any science is never accurate. It looks like it was part of a PhD thesis for a guy in the Psych dept. His adviser is indeed a tenured prof who studies exactly this sort of touchy feely component of human interaction. The paper can be downloaded here. Interestingly, they do control for variables such as preseason expectations on team performance (based on NBA GMs and TV analysts) and team margin of victor during games in which the coded interactions. You can question the importance of this sort of inquiry, but there was some thought and work put into it, and it did pass whatever entails peer review in the psych field.

by dropstep on Nov 6, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dropstep

has been on fire. Look what a little effort would have done for all of us :)

You're not letting natural selection take its course! You're like the guy who invented the seatbelt...

by Mplax on Nov 6, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’d like to see a study done on bad teams who make good plays. I’m guessing Beasley got some high fives after his putback dunk. I’m also guessing there were more high fives to go around after our win.

You're not letting natural selection take its course! You're like the guy who invented the seatbelt...

by Mplax on Nov 5, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

They get paid for research like that? :-|

If they studied a little harder, they may have found that the reason they’re more touchy feely is because they’re great teams, and have a lot more to be touchy feely about. They’re not great because they’re touchy feely, they’re touchy feely because they’re great. I just can’t see getting all excited and high fiveing when you clank 5 tepid hook shots in a row, and your starting frontcourt shoots a miserable 33%.

by Mano on Nov 6, 2010 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

This did appear odd at the time...

Because I figured the game would be suspended until this handshake was completed. I was worried that Wes would lead Kevin on a slow-speed chase around the basket. When you combine this with B-Easy walking up to the backboard and screaming after each missed free throw the Wolves have some interesting foul shots.

by Safety Chuck on Nov 4, 2010 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I remember seeing this at the game

And laughing really hard about it at the time

by bbeeck on Nov 4, 2010 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I remember this when it happened -- Kevin could barely see because

he’d been whacked across the bridge of the nose and eye. That’s all there was to it.

Wolves, it's time to "switch the flip".

by BaylorWest on Nov 4, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Why did Wes walk away?

If he was doing it because it was funny…then that is a good enough reason.

by princelyfrank on Nov 4, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was effing hilarious.

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Nov 4, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Wesley Johnson looks to have a mean reach around with those jazz hands of his.

by Ebomb on Nov 4, 2010 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

The one positive about this team

Is I get the impression that they like each other. But I could be wrong.

by Rodman99 on Nov 4, 2010 4:14 PM CDT reply actions  

They're a very likeable team

Except when they shoot bricks and play swiss cheese defense. We’ll get a better picture of this team when we finally start playing teams at our talent level, if there are any. It doesn’t get any easier tomorrow when Atlanta and Joe Johnson and Josh Smith come to town. Yikes!

by Mano on Nov 4, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet more proof...

…that Love is too short and too slow. :P

It's a trick. Get an axe.

by CaliWolf on Nov 4, 2010 7:45 PM CDT reply actions  

But his outlet high five

is excellent

"Humor is reason gone mad." Marx (Groucho, for the reason-gone-mad impaired)

by uncle rico on Nov 6, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wes made Love earn that high five

Lols just chill.

by Fli on Nov 4, 2010 10:39 PM CDT reply actions  

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