Short Hands and Silver Platters (Wolves/Nuggets gamethread)
by Oceanary on Dec 29, 2010 6:44 PM CST
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If you thought the Timberwolves were shorthanded without Martell Webster and Jonny Flynn, then wait until you see tonight's Nuggets. Or perhaps more appropriately, what's left of the Nuggets.
Not only is Denver still without Carmelo Anthony, but they also reportedly will not be playing Al Harrinton, Kenyon Martin, or Nene tonight either. That leaves just The Birdman (who will be limited in minutes himself) and former TWolf Shelden Williams to man the paint for the Nuggets, with the extra minutes going to seldom-used players like Renaldo Balkman, Melvin Ely, and Gary Forbes.
We all sympathize with Carmelo's loss and with him and his family the best. But at the same time, this is a golden opportunity for the Wolves to do something rather rare for the club these days (read: years) - win three straight games.
Sister blog of the night is Denver Stiffs...drop on by and say hello. And as always, be excellent to one another.
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We need to win this game...
Nuggets starting Lineup is:
Billups, J.R. Smith, Afflalo, Shelden Williams and Melvin Ely
Opportunities don’t get more golden than this.
Offensive Glass
If we can control the boards with so many of their bigs out, we should be able to win regardless of our shooting.
But if we shoot well, that’d be nice too.
http://www.firstrow.net/watch/43252/1/watch-minnesota-timberwolves-vs-denver-nuggets.html
So this link apparently is not working….any others?
by Chad Bird on Dec 29, 2010 7:06 PM CST reply actions
Works for me
leading to http://www.directon.tv/channels/299/, but the sound’s echoing. Odd, odd, odd.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Nugs may be short handed
but Chauncey’s pretty dangerous
Getting better isn't the same thing as winning, sadly.
I'm seeing a commercial right now
but the second First Row link seems just fine. ATDHE.net doesn’t seem to be working right now.
Getting better isn't the same thing as winning, sadly.
Zgoda Twitter
Karl on #Timberwolves: “This team is going to start turning the corner pretty quick. Every game I’ve watched on film, they should have won.”
"I haven't gotten back from the future yet." - Be-Easy
If ATDHE stops working
There is a software (StreamTorrent) you can download and a couple links for it exist to view the game.
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Great pass/save by Luke
Is something wrong with Scott Hastings?
Ha!
I wonder if Kahn ever made inquiries about LeBron. What a BS comment meant to tell the fanbase that the Denver FO is trying when in actuality their entire roster is expiring and they are getting reading for a long painful rebuild through the lottery.
Let's take care of the defensive glass, here.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Shelden and Ely know who they are, anyway.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Nuggets fan here...
we barely know who they are :)
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Thanks! I've always liked the TWolves
you certainly have a beast in Mr. Love
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Journeyman.
Eight seasons, five rosters, spotty in basically everything.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Sometimes JR shoots his team into it
Sometimes he shoots them out of it
Tonight is definitely looking like and “out of it” game
Decent pass by Darko.
Needs to do more of that and less 6-dribble post ups.
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Oh, Beasley, the little drive!
Meanwhile Denver is actually actively posting up Shelden Williams.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Yay! Darko dunked.
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Then the block... and he taps it out.
What is it with Darko’s strange compulsion to slap the ball around?
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Just practicing...
For his second career as a handball player…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
No idea
He’s always done that, even in Memphis and Orlando. If he started grabbing 2-3 of those taps a game, he’d be at 9 rebounds a night smdh
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
Firstrow stream
How do you get rid of the flashing “you are a winner” BS on the firstrow stream.
Do you know HTML?
If so, very easy. Also, you can try the Firefox addon AdBlock or whatever it’s called.
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
Without coding out the HTML it won't be easy
Firefox has AdBlock
Firebug makes HTML editing VERY easy
For anyone who knows HTML.
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
Ridnour's shots are not exactly bouncing around the cylinder, here.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
It's their strength and conditioning coach
Check him in this Birdman Workout Video
He's a hoot that's for sure....Crazy almost
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Whoa, is he acting like a dork or is that genuine?
He also has the John Boehner tan going. I wonder if he tears up easily too.
It's genuine. That's exactly how he is all the time.
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Steve Hess
He used to wear well past shoulder length dreads. Strong dude and as good as anyone in the NBA at what he does.
I really hate those foul calls.
No way does Billups deserve 3 free throws for flailing his arms.
Balkman and Love on each other is interesting right now.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Renaldo Balkman is a pretty interesting player
Limited offensively but quite good defensively at many positions.
Yeah, he's a fun watch.
But then, as a baseball fan I sort of liked utility infielders.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Some of Luke's passes look good at first glance
And it seems like the receiver screws up on them. Nope…. those are just bad passes.
He tried this terrible underhand thing trying to repost Darko.
Naturally it was a turnover. So bad. Flynn would have been benched for it.
Anyone hear the crap about Griffin v. Love?
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I'm talking about the hypocrisy.
They talked about how Nene is trying to make his first all-star team. Fair
They then disrespected Love by saying he’s putting up stats on an 8 win-team, so he doesn’t deserve to make it. OK
Then they go ga-ga over Blake Griffin, saying he does things no one else in the NBA does and deserves to make it. LULZ
8-24 and 10-22 sure change people’s perceptions.
Worst of all, doing stuff that hasn’t been done in decades? What exactly is Love doing?
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
This comes from someone indifferent about Love
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
The part where they're saying he does stuff people haven't done "in 20, 30 years"
rubs me wrong. He’s fun to watch, but c’mon. We remember David Robinson, or Kemp.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
I think he was referencing those two specifically.
87 draft for both right?
He's miles ahead of where Kemp was at the same age.
Miles. He might even be playing his ultimate NBA position yet.
I'd definitely choose either Robinson or Kemp above Blake,
given that they play both ends of the court. But yeah, the offensive explosion is crazy right now.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Ibaka reminds me of Kemp
Griffin is a more athletic Karl Malone or something. Plus, he’s developing a jump shot from what I saw.
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
Griffin is a more athletic Godzilla (Godzilla was better on D though)
but I won’t/can’t compare Kemp to anything in this dimension.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Compare and contrast: Luke's shooting so far with that three attempt from Jonny.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Pek is really struggling
Definitely not ready for prime time
The travel on the little shuffle-step toward the basket was.... awkward.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
But there you go, a little offensive board and put-back.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Lot's of TOs and lot's of PFs
with some overlap between the two obviously.
FWIW, both of his first quarter travels were definitely travels but are also not consistently called in the NBA.
He was looking better before the injury
when he is comfortable his post moves are natural and he gets good position
Definitely worth the burn...IMO
If he figures it out, and I’m betting he will, he’ll be an AWESOME off back up center. Nobody will move him off the block.
by jocky_flubio on Dec 29, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
he's getting there
I think he’s adjusted to the speed, and he’s not being called for fouls as much. Both his bad plays in the 1st quarter were just foot-shuffling. This is correctable.
I think he’s almost there.
...I've been drinking...
Better D again this q
keep it up boys
by Souvik Roy Chowdhury on Dec 29, 2010 7:36 PM CST reply actions
KG
hurt his knee again, out of the Detroit v. Celtics game in first quarter.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
i hope pek and darko stick around the twin cities over the offseason
i could see them both making huge improvements over the summer.
Good 1st quarter...
Doing what we need to against a depleted team on a back-to-back. If we just take care of the ball, I like our chances tonight…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I want to see a few innings of shutout ball at some point.
Good teams learn how to turn the defensive screws up for stretches.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Don't think...
We have that gear at this point. But the Nuggets don’t have a lot of scorers right now. Tonight would be the night…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Lawton trying to climb
Mt. Pek …no contest
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
Trying to scale the East (European) Face?
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
How long bw billups retiring from the game and becoming a head coach?
or will he join the denver front office? Classy dude. Should be around the game for life.
Isn't there a required stint in Boston first?
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Under Pitino? Not sure that counts.
They were going young then. Was that in the last ice age, or the one before?
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Where is Darko?
I thought he played decently in the first Q. No fouls…is he injured?
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it seems like he's been getting a lot of rest in 2nd quarters
maybe his injury is still bothering him, maybe conditioning, maybe need to get backup centers more time
From early in the first quarter.
This is concerning.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
things are starting to look much crisper for the wolves
not to say they’ve ‘arrived’ but it’s definitely starting to flow much better
Jonny does less with more motion than any PG I can think of in a while
constantly leaving his feet to make routine pases … and he’s now matched up with Lawson. A huge contrast.
It's true
lots of work for no results.
Flynn still has a chance to get it together, but the window is closing. He was invisible in the NOH win, and he’s been absent so far tonight. Hope he turns it around.
...I've been drinking...
I'm a huge CUSE fan
who wasn’t sold on Jonny as a lottery pick at all when the Wolves took him. All that being said he wasn’t nearly this bad as a sophomore at CUSE.
That was a terrible defensive possession by Brewer.
He got turned around, he got blown by as J.R. Smith casually drove.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
flynn really is horrible
does he do anything well?
Smiles and hand shakes.
Probably speaks very gentlemanly in an interview setting, too.
Face high dribbling?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
it's been said over and over again but...
how good is hanny and JP?
I enjoyed them telling me the radio guy is d&d free though
useful information.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
I don't believe it
Dude looked like he has a 12th level chaotic good Paladin.
It's a trick. Get an axe.
bad is so gentle
you’re compromising your brand
by jocky_flubio on Dec 29, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
They called Luke a pass-first point guard
Oh that is good honey.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
so smooth
and minnesotan. very fitting.
by jocky_flubio on Dec 29, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
Love flashing in the post
is very effective so far tonight. Terrible D from Enver.
...I've been drinking...
Anyone daydreaming about if they kept Lawson instead of Flynn?
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 7:49 PM CST reply actions
Every time...
Jonny is on the court…in any game…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I'm real good at repressing it. The booze helps.
But watching it in plain sight is….pain.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
Really bad at viewer question responses, too!
Lame O
"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Producers think "Do you have any tattoos?" is an amusing question to choose.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
as you hit 'post'
Darko leaves the game for the night
by jocky_flubio on Dec 29, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
nuggets announcers just called Luke a
“pass first point guard” hahah
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
Love draws a ton of fouls away from the ball
If it continues and we ever start drawing fouls from the PG, wing and C positions what is going to help them win a handful of games every year.
That is true
he knows how to get the refs to give him the call
The Wolves' defense is just terrible.
It’s a layup drill for Denver.
Lawson is like a scalpel in there.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
He was the exact same way in college.
Height and injury concerns seriously outweighed productivity when NBA GMs looked at him
We're both in on that one.
Hollinger’s projections, &c.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
I still can't get how he dropped
He looked like a no brainer pick coming out.
I’m trying to find flaws… there must be some. ;)
I think people also overestimated the talent he played with
Seemed to be a lot, “Well, look who he was playing with” talk at the time. Hindsight shows that Ty was probably making those guys better.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Actually at the time the numbers said it
People were just positive they saw something that wasn’t there.
Started when Lawson came in...
He’s killing both Jonny and Luke… Causing a lot of problems.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
You mean the one on his ego? Yeah.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Wes' shots look rushed
You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.
twitter.com/JayAreW
I worry that's not something you can necessarily learn
you either have the guts or you don’t. He doesn’t seem ballsy enough.
by jocky_flubio on Dec 29, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Handles can definitely be learned...
Not saying he’ll be great at it, but he could become effective…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Officially has the NBA Jam flames effect goin' on tonight.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Who's the announcer with the tattoos?
I assume he’s a former player. Anyways, the moron just said “he’s lucky”, which pretty much goes against what announcers typically do, which is shout: “What a shot!”
-in regards to Ridnour’s crazy layup
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Scott Hastings
NBA 12th man for years, Man about town on the Pistons championship teams
how long have game feeds like this been around?
Please don’t say forever.
The quality has gone way way up.
On the free feeds. They are pretty consistently on par with my NBA league pass broadband feeds.
This "firstrow.net" site
should try putting some ads on their page. Nothing tasteful, either—something from Geocities circa 1998 would be nice.
Be good. Work hard. Have fun.
Check out the atdhe feed
A buddy of mine from college was in the development team that created the initial geocities pop-out ad. We tease him mercilessly about it and he reminds us of the “being a millionaire as a result” thing.
We don't want 7 or 8 at the half. We want 14.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Lawson looking like 20+ tonite!
k I’ll bite, what did we trade him for again?
"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." - Friedrich Nietzsche
The pick that eventually turned into Martell W.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Charlotte's 1st...
Which we in turn used for Webster, I believe? Am I remembering right?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
good grief
can anyone step in front of Lawson?
You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.
twitter.com/JayAreW
Wolves are uninterested
they are not good enough to try and coast through games
Yikes that was a terrible sequence by Love and Pekovic
I say SHONDA you say WOLVES" SHONDA! WOLVES!
by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:00 PM CST reply actions
That's on the guards
at least the Pekovic part. You don’t feed your center 20 feet from the rim on the break. Ever.
true
I say SHONDA you say WOLVES" SHONDA! WOLVES!
by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Even handled it in cluttered traffic for a moment afterward.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
I don't hink that was Kahn's best moment on that one!
"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." - Friedrich Nietzsche
It would suck to lose to the Nuggets
2nd unit at home.
"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Wolves are foul-happy tonight
hope they aren’t setting up for a heartbreak
Yep. And I never saw it at CUSE
Him and Webster both. Willing and Capable.
Lot of phantom calls tonight...both ways...
And already several “Oh he missed the shot, so I’m calling a foul now” situations. We don’t exactly have the A-Team officiating tonight, do we?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
True...
There is no A-Team, is there?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Joey Crawford has that reputation,
which should tell us everything we need to know.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
I dunno about that
The NBA is the hardest to ref, by far I’d say. And they don’t have as many out there as, say, the NFL – which would be my nomination for worst refs in sports.
Wait, are we including FIFA refs? Then put those corrupt bastards at the top.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
NFL by me, though I never watch any more.
They’re amateurs, still, aren’t they? That league allowed instant replay to change what a fumble is, in practice, and didn’t seem to notice.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
It close to me
I tend to go with the NBA because the refs can change the outcomes of many games ie keeping it close or giving wade 1000 free throws
That's a Danny Crawford staple
Weird calls off the ball to “control the game” while missing really dangerous contact is unwhistled.
Danny Crawford
I don’t think he is against us or Denver. But, he reffed the Miami/Dallas gane where Wade got like 28 FTs. And just saw today that Dallas is 2-16 in playoff games Crawford refs. 2-16. Hard to believe that is just coincidence or a style clash.
It's a trick. Get an axe.
man, does this squad miss Tolliver
too many minutes for Pek and Koufos
Koko-B-Ware
beware when he tries to score, that is
Love and Beasley both hitting shots.
Love 8-12, B-Easy 6-9 so far from the floor.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
This lineup really sucks.
Love, Wes, Brew, Ellington, Luke. Come on, Rambis.
And Rambo just subbed in Koufos for Love.
What the hell is he doing?
That terrible Love, Wes, Brew, Wayne, Luke
group was out there for a long time. So bad.
The players have to learn how to get points
Love and wes has to get better on scoring points.
Well, Love just did score 20 on 12 shots
that doesn’t suck
I say SHONDA you say WOLVES" SHONDA! WOLVES!
by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
those 20 points
Came off of scoring put backs and with in the flow offense. This is easy to do when you have a scorer on the court .
This is not a diss
what I am saying is that you cant just give Kevin the ball and say score a basket. That is not his game. but if you swing the ball around and he is open he can hit that shot. or run a pick and pops these are the ways he gets his points
Yeah, that sounds synonymous with saying that scoring 20 on few shots without the offense going through you
is “easy.”
Um, %%%.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
True
Creating his own is not part of his game. They could certainly use someone other than Beasley who can do that, but Love does seem to manage to score.
I say SHONDA you say WOLVES" SHONDA! WOLVES!
by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously, Chuck. Is it?
Give me the short list of other players for whom 22 and 8 in a half is easy because there’s a scorer on the floor.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
Not a very good scorer apparently...
If Love’s points are off of putbacks…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Wes had a poster dunk lined up
and he passed out of it.
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You have to get a shot off there
with a 4 on 2 break.
Corey should check for his strap
I think Billups has it!
"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Good Lord!
The Wolves must’ve thought they had this game won before they came out of the locker room. Bad D. 10 turnovers.
Not sure what to make of that 2nd Quarter...
We played like garbage, and we’re still up 6. Not sure I should be happy or sad.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I hesitate to complain about a guy who just put up a 20 and 8 half
but Love’s rebounding the last few games has not been up to his previous standards. Of course, those standards might just be not maintainable.
I say SHONDA you say WOLVES" SHONDA! WOLVES!
by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:14 PM CST reply actions
True
It could be like I said the last game. Teams are keying in on him. But I dont mind he is playing well in this game.
Could be attention from others
Could also just be that he’s not getting the bounces right now, or that the earlier pace was just not sustainable. Have to see how it develops
I say SHONDA you say WOLVES" SHONDA! WOLVES!
by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
He's officially up a tier at least, is the thing.
We now regard an 8-12 first half with 22 points and a starter’s share of boards as a falloff.
The step I want to see from Love right now is coming up big down the stretches of games. Some indications, there.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
He's had some big 4th quarters
Not enough, though. Of course, you could say that about the whole squad
I say SHONDA you say WOLVES" SHONDA! WOLVES!
by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
That's our next step. If Love wants to be another step up, it's his too.
Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other. – OWH
The eventual end for the Wolves if they keep Love is going to have to be
the offense starting with him setting a pick for the PG they way Flip did with KG
let us never speak of the
curry/love pick and roll duo again. ;)
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Think of every missed shot as a variable he has X percent chance of securing as a rebound
play around with the numbers and, well, there is a lot of variance there.
almost
15% of shots on offense and a 3rd of all opponents shots while he is out there. it’s crazy.
Insincerity is the best sincerity. Survive and celebrate Bunny Month.
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two things
our other guys, esp beaz and pek, seem to be getting better at grabbing boards
and other teams are keying on Love, not the ball. it’s a good strategy — keep love off the boards and you’ll have a better chance of one of your other players grabbing the ball
Getting better isn't the same thing as winning, sadly.
Agreed
But I think teams are also coming in prepared for it now, and players too. Ely is working his ass off trying to keep Love off the boards tonight.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if he got some stick...
For the “I’ll even rip it away from my teammates” comment about a month ago. He’s been a little less aggressive since then…
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Wolves bench has hit 2 shots tonight, both by Pekovic.
Overall they’re 2-11. WIthout Nikola P, 0-8 from the floor.
Denver’s: 8-17.
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Why is Rambis reverting to "play everyone" mode?
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by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Very good question.
Dribs and drabs of minutes to guys like Martell and Wayne, and so on. It doesn’t work so well.
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I never enjoy seeing Ellington out there
Never have, never will.
Maybe if he becomes the victory cigar I will. Until then…
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, he had some late games last year.
Was it against Houston, where he and Corey kept dialing long distance to extend the game?
I could live with him having a defined role. He’s not going to show much being played for 2 minutes at a time.
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4 starters played 17:30-19:30 minutes
Darko got hurt. Martell is the only one with less burn (Wayne got 3 Martell normally would’ve had).
It's a trick. Get an axe.
Is Rondo playing tonite?
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Beasley shouda passed to Luke..
Clock winding down. Two good 3 point shooters. Luke is open Beasley takes the contested 3 ball and misses. That’s the story with Beasley…Not alot goin on between the ears!
Eh
that whole play was a result of something most teams do, which is wait to long to go on a last possession situation.
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by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Celts without Rondo and KG are just damn good
Detroit must be playing way over their heads!
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Let's not give the short-handed Nuggets hope. We need to crush their will in the 3rd.
"Fighting contraction since 1989"
t-wolves turnovers
Does anyone know why the t-wolves always seem to turn the ball over too much? Is it a problem with the players or the system or both?
It seems like we always turn it over more than the other team.
the players, the youth, the system
it’s everything, man.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
More about the players for me...
A lot of them are just careless. Trying to whip a one-handed pass or flipping the ball too casually on our ball screen stuff…
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Youth.
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I was surprised last summer that more teams weren't interested in TMac
He was 100% healthy in his stint with the Knicks. Ok, sure, teams said he had the wrong attitude thinking he could still be a focal point in the offense, but when the Pistons have given him burn, he’s actually been that good
Wonder if a contender will try to levy him away at the deadline.
Why oh why is he not wearing Celtics green?
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t-mac
I thought there would be a team that would want him just because they’re desperate to sell a few tickets or a team that would want to match him with another star players. In fact, it seemed logical the knicks would bring him back.
And Inexperience.
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Any WEbster sighting yet??
is he alive?
by Souvik Roy Chowdhury on Dec 29, 2010 8:23 PM CST reply actions
And the Lakers are back on track
Guess the Hornets are the NBA’s new salve. Struggling and need a game to put it back together in? Play the Bugs
Let the CP3 trade mill start again
Not that he'd ever come here...
But Rubio, cap space, and draft picks? Hard for NO to say no. Trot out CP3, Beas, and Love as our Big 3?
All a pipe dream sadly…
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Darko back on the court.
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Melvin Ely, noted threat to drive the lane.
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Sign me up for CP3
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Go small.
Love, Beasley, Wes, Webster, Luke.
But, but Denver would dominate with Shelden Williams and Melvin Ely posting up....
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That little exchange epitomized where Wes Johnson is so far.
Couldn’t get his own shot off, but given the ball right he could release clean for the long J.
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Passing comes and goes. He's got his lapses.
He can’t dribble well enough to create space for a jumper over a shorter defender, even.
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Acually he has shown some nice passing at times...
IMHO, I think what he really needs is to work on his footwork. He’s often off balance, and seems to be on the wrong foot many times. The good news is, this is easily fixable. This would greatly help his ball handling as well. In
Glad to see Darko back out there...
these “contusion” injuries shouldn’t be keeping him out for entire games.
People with Thalassemia don't heal that quickly from bone bruises/contusions.
"Fighting contraction since 1989"
what about people..
….from Thalassemia? I hear it’s wonderful in the spring.
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Darko running Greg Oden out there...
And I don’t mean when healthy…
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atdhe.net's is working now for me.
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http://atdhe.net/31592/watch-denver-nuggets-vs-minnesota-timberwolves
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
yikes
let’s see if rambis has a fucking clue
I don't see Rambis playing. He's got the starters out there. They just suck.
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Turnovers. Turnovers.
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It will be interesting to see...
…just how much of the Wolves’ good play can be tied to anything other than hot shooting. Here are the numbers from teh last 10
http://dougstats.com/10-11/MinnesotaT-wolvesLF.html
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Hey, a lot of the time
its about makes and misses. That’s it. I actually expect their shooting percentage to go up a bit more as the season goes on; it started historically low.
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by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
I could have worded it better
But how much is just them running the same-old-same-old with better results or how much is actual improvement in how they play. For instance, Beasley shooting 21 footers is a bad thing no matter what. Is he simply hot or has he chosen to drive it to the hoop?
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Beasley adores the 21 footer.
I don’t think he’ll ever stop loving the 21 footer. The only hope is he cheats on it more often with that sexy drive to the hoop that keeps eyeing him at the Cub checkout aisle.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know
but on the other hand…better results aren’t bad. You juxtapose better results with actual improvement, which I’m not sure is right.
I get what you mean, though. Are they just hot, like previous nice runs in the last couple of seasons? Most likely, yes.
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by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
thank god for garbage
we’re good and picking that up
This is becoming embarrassing.
Get it together, guys.
Anyone want to synopsize Kurt Rambis and his use of Time Outs?
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I think you mean..
…“Reverse Brewsist”.
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Refs are letting them mug us right now...
We need to start mugging them back…
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he has to stay on the ground
he was dying to jump up and foul. Missed opportunity for Denver
by jocky_flubio on Dec 29, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Pekovic, like Love, is actually pretty good defensively on the ball in the post
Unlike Love he actually helps a bit when out turnstiles perimeter defenders “create situations requiring help defense”
On that last 3 make by Denver
Pek had one of the best 1/2 hearted block attempts I have ever seen. I think he short armed what appeared to be a half assed swipe at a fly that was out of his reach. It was noticeable enough where Mrs. n-Pop wondered “what in the hell was that?” while laughing.
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shelden raped love on the last steal
and then the nugs get that weak ass foul. How’s that good officiating?
darnit
can’t seem to get any stream working :(
I'm a Timberwolves fan, therefore I must be a masochist.
/www.firstrow.net/watch/43252/1/watch-minnesota-timberwolves-vs-denver-nuggets.html
I have no idea what we're yelling about!
So Sheldon Williams can mug KLove at our end (plus come close to traveling)
but Pek get nailed at our end before the play is even over???
I have no idea what we're yelling about!
Yes
It’s in the rules.
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Michael Beasley
much better defender when he is playing PF
Webster!
Nope. That is not what the numbers say
nice try though
look as his
defensive ratings last year when he was with the heat he was top twenty in the nba
bump, set...
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i'll update every 10 games
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Here are the numbers from last year
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2010_leaders.html
Defensive Rating #20 Michael Beasley
bump, set..
…and….
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Jonny Flynn couldn't be more ridiculous
On that last possession, he stood on the low block, faded towards out of bounds when a Denver guy penetrated, made no attempt at a rebound, and then watched a Nugget try to put up a close shot. All of this was done by a guy who is sub 6 feet.
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Kahn saw that he was a very good player who could be an excellent defender
He saw it – who are you to say he’s wrong?
i'm going to love jonny flynn
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Rubio and Flynn can share a backcourt.
It’ll be like Zeke and Dumars.
he's totally lost right now
It’d be awesome to see him get up even to last year’s terrible level of play.
...I've been drinking...
James Naismith corpse weeps...
When Jonny Flynn is on the court. Also, I die a little inside…just a little…
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he should have brought back Toine's shimmy on that one
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Just got in....
Closer game than I had hoped. How has Beas looked?
Whole team coasting - I hope they get some focus in the 4th. Wandering minds tonight.
"Fighting contraction since 1989"
Hmmm.... no good.
Here’s hoping for an entertaining 4th
it took him a full second to realize he had the steal
and then he threw it down the visitors tunnel.
...I've been drinking...
we were down 8 and now we're back...
but let’s see what Flynn has to say about it
LOL
Flynn telling Webster he was running his route wrong (setting up on the free-throw line extended 3pt line). Flynn is not just a terribly unskilled player, he’s also a very stupid guy. He just doesn’t have the intelligence required to play in the NBA. That jungle ball crap doesn’t work in the NBA, but he’d make a nice AND1 “star”.
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His potential
If he exceeds his perceived ceiling, he may turn out to be a quarter of Conley right now.
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Oh Jonny
We want to like you. We really, really do.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 8:56 PM CST reply actions
i love it when the other teams have bad players
like bird man
i love it when the other teams have bad players
like bird man
Wes Johnson =
Alex English
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
I wish
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by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
See for yourself, Alex's first two seasons
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
76-77 MIL 60 6 10.8 .477 .000 .767 1.10 1.70 2.80 .4 .28 .30 .00 1.30 5.2
77-78 MIL 82 4 18.9 .542 .000 .727 1.80 3.10 4.80 1.6 .50 .67 1.67 2.20 9.6
http://www.nba.com/history/players/english_stats.html
Alex had a slick stroke too, not hard to envision Wes Johnson evolving as Alex did.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
Flynn is doing worse than nothing tonight
Perhaps we should try Gaines in these short stints. At least we’d get some defense that way
he hit him
with mind bullets. it was tenacious d.
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Love hammered by 2 guys on one end...
Lawson gets a soft And 1 on the other end.
Have I mentioned that NBA officiating is not good?
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my thoughts exactly
somebody needs to rmeind the refs we’re playing in minnesota NOT Denver
I'm a Timberwolves fan, therefore I must be a masochist.
Koufos got away with an awesome push off on that last shot
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Love apparently gets the "Shaq rules" now
no damaged body parts, no foul
I have no idea what we're yelling about!
Danny Crawford staple
Three possessions ago Balkman almost decapitated Love. No call. He then gives Love a small shove three possessions later. Automatic whistle.
Webster is a heatcheck machine
Reminds me of Hollywood Robinson. That’s a half-compliment.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 9:00 PM CST reply actions
These Nugget injuries don't mean as much...
when we trot out Jonny/Brewer/Koufos down the stretch. Maybe we’re just trying to be fair.
Last summer the Wolves elected to pay Corey Brewer 3.8M dollars this season
The Nuggets in need of a bench wing traded a protected second rounder for Arron Afflalo and paid him 5.2M less over the past two season to get better results.
It isn’t an accident the Nuggets make the playoffs ever year. Proper use of scarce resources.
Well...
That and having stars at PG/SF/C, but other than that, you’re 100% correct.
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
They have those stars because they don't blow draft picks
and guarantee minutes to sub-mediocrities
I feel bad for ya'll
But, at the same time, the TImberwolves are about 2-3 seasons from making the playoffs. Enjoy the ride, because you’ll be able to say “I stood by my team” to everyone who will listen. It takes some awesome fandom to stick around during the tough times. Look at the 05 Lakers…all the “fans” because Heat fans or stopped following hoops…once they got back on top, I get the following “arguments” whenever discussing NBA: “Who gun stop kobz, bruh?”
YOU ARE AWESOME FANS
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This game is proving that Kahn really screwed the pooch
on the Flynn pick and the Lawson deal. Sigh
I have no idea what we're yelling about!
Another one of those
where you didn’t even have to wait for either of them to ever play a game.
exactly
they were worlds apart in college.
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or drafted the best guard on the board
or listened to dean cooper.
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The Wolves would have draft better just taking the best player on Hollinger's
freely available draft rater. That’s been going on for almost a decade.
there are a number of draft raters
that would have served them well. sadly, they had a guy with cooper who understood this and he was ignored.
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Well my point was that a freely available but highly flawed rater
has absolutely destroyed the Wolves going back a decade. Now the Wolves are uniquely bad (terrifying to think of how bad they would stack without the Love trade) but a cursory look at college production outperforms the Wolves and about 2/3rds of NBA front offices. Thati’s a searing indictment of observationism – not that there needed to be anymore.
well
it’s a searing indictment of going with one type of decision making over everything else. draft rater + scouting = teh bomb. i’d be perfectly happy if they had an mit grad looking over the numbers if they balanced it out. decent balance has always been a problem with this franchise.
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Only thing worse than drafting Jonny...
Was the awkward clapping Kahn had everyone do in the War Room when he took him. It was like he already knew he was gonna get killed for that pick, and he was trying to sell it.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
yep
it was really out of left field.
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Best case?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Shammgod
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by DarkoMilicic on Dec 29, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
True, but Lawson isn’t about to become a tier 1 PG any time soon either. The guy we missed on was Curry and not Lawson.
Paul, Williams, Westbrook, Curry, Rose, Nash, Parker, Harris, Rondo, Felton, Miller, Nelson, Jennings, Kidd, Wall…I guess it depends on your definition of “cusp”
Yeah, half of that list isn't better than him
not much point in discussing it though
His assist numbers are skewed by hom much they play him and Billups off the ball
But he’s good defensively and an insanely efficient scorer.
why would you count that against him?
there are plenty of players that wouldn’t or couldn’t get him the ball
Until guys like Rubio and Irving and other young guns come in to the league to replace Nash and Kidd. Ty Lawson will always be 5’11" and no matter how skilled he is, that is going to prevent him from ever being Top 10.
that is going to prevent him from ever being Top 10."
I didn’t say it would prevent Chris Paul or prevent anyone in general. Chris Paul has been better than Ty Lawson at every level and every year of their development.
So no matter how skilled Ty Lawson is,
he can never be Top 10 because he’s 5’10 – but other guys can?
But Jonny is definitely Top 60...
And his laugh is infectious…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
ok
that was a garbage whistle. wolves got away with one there.
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This is embarrassing....
Play some D for Gods Sake!!!
http://atdhe.net/31592/watch-denver-nuggets-vs-minnesota-timberwolves
Shhh. I've got a ringing in my head. Listen! Can you hear it?
What is Lawson's +/- tonight?
I’m guessing about + 600?
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More proof what BS that stat is in a game...
He is murdering us…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I thought this might be the rare case...
Where it was reflective of the player performance. Wrong again…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
just scroll up
or use the “find” feature in your browser. crtl-f, “link”. You’ll find several.
...I've been drinking...
Rebounds like Love's last one...
should not be taken for granted. That came off the rim hot and would have flown right past somebody like Darko.
I don't know
I vote the Clipper game or Utah.
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although..
….losing to a reke-less sactown was pretty bad.
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I don't know if it's worse than the Clipper blowout.
Close, though.
7 minutes to turn this around...
… c’mon guys!
agreed
especially since we’re coming off a 2game streak
by jocky_flubio on Dec 29, 2010 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
The second San Antonio collapse stung.
Sooo, sooo many choices.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Does Love really only have 2 points in the second half?
Check out Humdinger TV on YouTube.
http://twitter.com/HumdingerTV
Sample size
See where it is at 500 minutes of playing time.
Why is box happening?
This is awful. We aren’t even getting back in time to play half court d. Fast break after fast break, that’s all the fourth quarter has been.
They thought they could win this easy, went to sleep & gave these guys confidence.
Lakers always used to blow games like this, and the Wolves ain’t the Lakers.
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Renaldo Balkman is being officiated like Ron Artest
with similar results.
Love is a complete nonfactor in the 2nd Half
We need Beasley to come up big if we want to have any chance at winning this game
Hastings is an idiot
“Wolves won’t go away at home.”
We’ve lead after every quarter and most of the game.
It's a trick. Get an axe.
KG hurt tonight
calf injury.
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he was having an
mvp season.
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He's been playing the best defense I've ever seen him play
Better than the year we made the WCF and better than the year he won the title
it happened in the 1st
x ray negative, mri tomorrow.
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Love with a couple of nice defensive possessions
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by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 9:15 PM CST reply actions
Unusual
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by Eric in Madison on Dec 29, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say at this point...
….just give the ball to Beasley on every possession and see if he can make something happen
ginobili > billlups*5
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on the flopping scale..yes
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every year
Manu is top 5-8 when healthy.
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he's a big d-wade
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With a better shot
I got into a message board argument once about if Manu was a hall of famer. Couldn’t believe anyone would disagree.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Only because of how he is officiated
he commits not one, but two clear moving violations on every single possession a la KG and, before him Patrick Ewing.
again
bigger d-wade.
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D-Wade doesn't commit a clear carry
on every possession and start and end his drives with a travel most possessions. Nobody, not even Jordan has committed a higher rate of uncalled moving violations than Manu
No, he just...
Commits a charge on every possession instead…
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Manu
Doesn’t have a 2006 Finals on his record. I think that makes up for the carries.
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Fouls
Ive noticed denver has alot of fts,stupid fouls or bad refs? can anyone watching fill me in?
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We've committed 22 fouls, they've had 18
They’ve shot 35 FTs, we’ve shot 18. Consistent for us. Do they really deserve 35 FTs?
It's a trick. Get an axe.
Chris Andersen makes me sick
It is thugs like him who are ruining the NBA and turn families away from the game
this time i agree with you
Chris Andersen is no thug. Just a guy with problems but he is better now
He is all tatted up and on drugs
Do you want your children emulating that? In any other major sport he would be banned
He is not on drugs
the tattoos I could care less. My kids would not not be so stupid to get those tattoos
He was banned for two years...Is clean and has earned the right to play again..
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He's no thug...Please
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I hope this is a joke
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No joke
Just pointing out the poster child for what is wrong with the NBA, thank God he is not a Wolf
So you don't allow for redemption?
What about Josh Hamilton? Pretty much the same story
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Hah
I was composing almost the exact same message. The double standards between conduct in basketball and other sports is absurd.
Exactly....
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Um...if a baseball player flops around the field
I’m going to be concerned that he’s having a seizure…
This is a really strange comparison…and pretty much invalid.
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Refs resorting to only calling fould
if the offensive player misses the shot or it will result in a TO
I like the PnR with Luke...
… he is destroying them. Now only if we could play some D
Maybe we should stick closer...
To this Billups fella. Seems like he can shoot. Has anyone ever heard of this player before?
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
And another one...
This is where I really have a problem with Rambis. You can’t let Billups beat you tonight, yet we’re doing exactly that…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Billups would look like he's not washed up against the Wolves.
He hasn’t been “Mr. Big Shot” in years, but he looks like it tonight. Sad.
Huge drop off this year
but he was still fantastic last season
He's coming back...He had a wrist injury
and was tired from the World Championships
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Maybe we should try...
Guarding him…or something. I’m just spiballin here…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I wish I lived in Denver right now...
They scored 110. Fans get 4 Taco Bell tacos for a buck.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Or just not go...
And let my stomach thank me later…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Horrible defense by Webster on Smith jumper.
Wolves just gave the game away.
No forcing a long two there
is great defense.
i don't think it was pot
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Right.
I was talking about Beasley.
Trollboy5000 was complaining about how he hates Birman because of his tattoos and drug use. But he loves Beasley…
Hypocrisy FTW!
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These Nuggest commentators need to stfu.
They’re wrong about 99% of the time. WHAT A BS CALL!
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
Well, this is going to put a serious damper on all the optimism that was going around.
Absolutely had to have this one, and … ugh.
I was going to be happy...
Going 1-1 against NO and DEN either way. Not how I thought it would play out, but oh well…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Didn't you know?
They’re supposed to play pattycake and have tea in the post. It’s a very dainty place, not rough and tumble at all.
Time out for Rambis
So far this season, we’ve seen pretty bad plays drawn up from close-game crunchtime TO’s. Let’s see what happens this time.
...I've been drinking...
Flopping + ridiculous tats = bad combo
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That was the most frustrating call all night
One thing I love about hockey is that you get penalized for flopping. In the nba the worst is just no call…
by domesticllama on Dec 29, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
as a former hockey fan (damn you norm green)
i can 100% tell you that birdman is not a goon. he’d get rolled in the 1st period. #poser.
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In Fairness
To the Wolves this officiating is a disgrace.
Apparently slapping an elbow off of your neck
is worthy of an over the back.
Especially given the way this game has been officiated
Were Pek and Darko so bad
that we went to small ball? Those two have 2-3 of the positive +/- for today. other than beasley
darko was injured early
Shhh. I've got a ringing in my head. Listen! Can you hear it?
But really
why did Rambis have them go under screens for Billups all night? He’s a career 39% 3 pt shooter.
yeah,
they’re a low percentage shot. you can’t beat a team that ignores them defensively!
...I've been drinking...
Because they have players who routinely receive DNPCDs who are better than the Wolves's
starters. Again, personnel decisions have donsequences.
"Personnel decisions have Donsequences"
Subtitle: The Don Nelson in Golden State Era: A Retrospective
Insert Kahnsequences
Too easy or too early? You decide america
Loser? How many beers can YOU drink?
Nonsense
We lost to them in Denver by two when they were fully stacked. Just a crap game for us. Frustrating.
by WestCoastWolf on Dec 29, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Fair enough
Billips didn’t miss a shot in the fourth and we had a stretch of 5 mins or so without a point. Not a good quarter. I guess if we live and die by the jump shot/3 we are going to die sometimes.
Lawson is actually a shaky FT shooter
One of the rare time you let the PG have the ball and hack him
OMG – they just fouled Chauncey Billups. WHY?
Allowing Chauncey to get that pass...
is absolutely horrible. Makes you wonder what they talked about in the huddle.
btw
how awesome is technology when you can watch a game in the back of a van on I80 near the tail end of a 10 hour car ride while the kiddies are sleeping?
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you're driving a van
while watching a game… with your kids in it… from the backseat?!!
...I've been drinking...
with mind bullets
amazing, i know. btw, eat here :
http://chibbqking.blogspot.com/2010/07/rips-chicken.html
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It's not like we have so many wins that we can play lazy against a hobbled team.
The Wolves were relaxing in the 3rd & 4th & gave Nuggets confidence.
"Fighting contraction since 1989"
This is a really bad loss.
Just horrible. What’s the excuse? Can’t use injuries as a crutch anymore.
That's a bit of an exaggeration...
We never crumbled in the 4th, and we played hard all night. Had some bad TOs at the start of the 3rd, but that was really it. You have to credit Billups for making big shots down the stretch in this one. I’m fine with the results.
Lols just chill.
They were missing 3 starters.
Plus 6th man. This is awful.
Luxury of a playoff team eh?
3 starters out and they still got Billups playing for them. Denver is a stacked team. Do I think Minnesota could’ve and should’ve beat them? Yes. But can’t discredit the fact that Billups had a ridiculous game.
Lols just chill.
Denver was running out scrubs.
Guys like Melvin Ely, Sheldon Williams, Gary Forbes, and Ronaldo Balkman are end of bench guys. They aren’t good. But they beat the Wolves. I don’t see the positives in this.
You can discredit, however...
That Billups was easily the #1 guy we should have had on the “Can’t let him beat us list” and yet we did exactly that.
I truly can’t believe the lack of a plan we have going into every game…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Yeah, I can agree with that.
Billups did get a few easy looks but many were contested as well. Really, there’s a whole slew of things the Twolves can do better. I’m just emphasizing the point that they didn’t fold when Billups repeatedly tried to put the nail in the coffin with his 3’s down the stretch.
Lols just chill.
Yeah, they did get out there for more than a couple of those
Billups was just on fire, boomshackla.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
Point taken...
But they weren’t exactly running Chauncey off of triple screens. We easily could have trapped the ball out of his hands after he started heating up, but we didn’t.
This is my biggest beef with Kurt…he refuses to acknowledge the realities of the game in front of him, and continues run the vanilla O and D we always run. We’re not good enough to do that.
Hoping they miss is not a valid defensive philosophy.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I wonder if his persistence/stubborness comes from working with Phil
Simmons had JA Adande on his podcast today and he alluded to the fact that Phil typically refuses to change his defensive schemes for certain teams.
I absolutely believe this is the case...
- The refusal to call a timeout when the other team goes on a run
- The belief that “WE DO WHAT WE DO AND THEY WILL ADJUST TO US”
- The end of game playcalls (with no Kobe) that involve no picks, back-cuts, or…you know…passing
I’m not sure if Kurt has adjusted to the fact that he’s not in LA anymore. You’d think the Minnesota winter would have been a clue…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Yes, I agree.
But that didn’t lead to a blow out either like it usually does. They came back and were close.
Lols just chill.
I know we should be happy that we're competitive but,
this was a VERY winnable game. Just frustrating as hell.
Which 12-0 run?
Wait, I’m thinking of the 11-0 run, my bad.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
"played hard all night"
except for the middle half of the game.
There have been two big issues with the Wolves all season, and they’re still the same:
1) Turnovers
2) Opponent 3pt %.
We’ve seen improvement in most aspects of play, which is nice, but the two main weaknesses were identified by everybody during the first 10 games, and those haven’t improved at all.
We won’t turn a corner without addressing and correcting at least one of these issues.
...I've been drinking...
Game Summary...
We let Billups shoot uncontested 3’s in the 4th
The refs let the Nugs mug the crap out of us.
END
There you go SnP…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
by mutleyil on Dec 29, 2010 9:35 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
A forced three-pointer that had no business being shot
Just how Rambis drew it up.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 9:35 PM CST reply actions
They had to do something with that time draining away. Almost drew the foul.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
Quite a Team
To Shot .494/.412/.880 and outrebound the opposition then lose.
this is where my question
about them shooting better and nothing else comes into play.
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TOs and opponent FTs
if we shoot like this (good but not otherwordly) but give 4 less TOs (15 still a lot) and 8 less FTs (35 still a ton) we win.
It's a trick. Get an axe.
absolutely the worst officiating
we’ve eaten this year
Bird is a floppin mofo
Getting better isn't the same thing as winning, sadly.
Come on...
The fact we couldn’t beat the Nuggets B team at home by double digits is reason enough not to blame the refs…
This loss is squarely on us playing lazy…
by LosAngelesTWolf on Dec 29, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for your comment LA TWolf
Is just disinformation…
by Son of Gerald Green on Dec 29, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
george karl knew what he was doing
by sitting half of their team tonight. that’s as good of a coaching move as anything.
It's a long season, gotta rest your guys
Pick and choose your battles.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
The problem? no recipe!
When we have a recipe, adds are we win.
Odds are we win -- oops
We gotta fix that. I had one in mind, but had to go out til the last quarter.
there needs to be punishment for flopping
and I’m not talking about punishment from the league. Why can’t NBA players police themselves like baseball players? Too few players on the roster? Put someone in and have him punch the birdman in the face and kick him in the nuts.
I haven't written an insightful post in years.
read this at the perfect time
very funny
by jocky_flubio on Dec 29, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
P.S.
Suck the big one Nuggets TV crew. I understand that you’re fans of the Nugs and that’s all well and good…but don’t just agree with the refs because they favored your team. I hate when commentators do that.`
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
honestly...the Nugs announcers are generally even handed
they certainly rip the Nuggets when needed
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i agree
the wolves had a lot of calls go their way too. they’re not the best crew, but they’re not near the bottom.
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Just noticeably annoying tonight I guess.
That Kevin Love call just sent me over the edge w/ them.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
Seriously?
What exactly in that game warranted Denver going to the line 15 more times (non-garbage time) than the Wolves?)
If Balkman were consistently officiated like that he’d be an NBA starter.
I thought refs were called both sides the same until the 4th...
When the Nuggets got a few huge calls/non calls.
Beasley gets no love on his drives, he was hacked late in a big spot.
pek
was going nuts on whatever guy he guarded, love got away with multiple travels, etc. denver plays a style of ball that gets them to the line. outside of love, the wolves are a jump shooting team. i’m not arguing it was good reffing—it was bad all around—i’m just saying it wasn’t tilted in anyone’s favor.
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It was more noticeable in the 4th though
And I’m not one to point to officiating as a reason for losing and I’m not here, but the calls went the wrong way in the final 5 minutes.
it may be
admittedly, i was distracted during the final 3-5 minutes. i just remember seeing a lot of calls go the wolves’ way. there were several blatant calls that were ignored.
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We may have gotten away with some rules violations...
But Denver was literally given a blank check to beat the crap out of us in the 2nd half tonight. Huge difference when one team is allowed to play physical defense and the other is not.
Not that we try to play physical that often, but the whistles were quick when we did.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I watched the whole game
I cannot figure out how they shot 39 FTs (and 4 more at the end). 39 FTs on like 22 fouls? Really?
It's a trick. Get an axe.
why is it
that you can initiate contact in the paint and draw a foul but if you initiate contact outside for three… the refs ignore it? Or worse yet you can flail about like an idiot because of incidental contact and get 3 free throws… the NBA is officially BS… and frankly if you ask me rigged to some extent.
I'm a Timberwolves fan, therefore I must be a masochist.
Our players need to look in the mirror - gut check.
They think they’re so good now that they can coast. Time to wake up.
"Fighting contraction since 1989"
They were coasting tonight?
They were playing competitive ball all night, imo, minus the half of the 3rd quarter.
Lols just chill.
Didn't put their foot down in the second quarter
Course, they probably would’ve frittered the lead away anyway.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Here's an interesting tidbit on Darko
http://sportstwo.com/threads/73668-Billups-Sticks-Up-for-Darko-in-Broadcast
Randomly surfing for info on Darko’s early years.
Ailuridae - Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends?
Afflalo is the 2nd cheapest guy on that roster
and he goes off on us. We are concentrating too much on the other team’s best players. :P
To be honest - i thought Pek should have been there in the 4th...
When we went small it seemed to go pear-shaped…
Thanks Wolves fans for letting me visit!
Hope you guys find some more success in the future!
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Notice that their four players over 30 minutes are guards
Despite Ridnour’s points and ast’s, the guard play still kills us.
Screw those Nugget announcers
Ridnour has to steal looks for himself like a NYC pick pocket. What’s the problem recognizing when Luke is blistering the nets. Rambis doesn’t deserve a player the caliber of Ridnour.
johnny flynn
should have stuck with ping pong
Worst part is
it seems like he doesn’t own up to his mistakes. Just smiles it off like it’ll be better next time.
Lols just chill.
Refs were bad but...
Should have won the game anyway, Beas brought it, just going from what I saw, game was lost because of early third quarter turnovers (woke DEN up) a 4 minute stretch of flat out brutal shot selection by Web, Billups not missing threes down the stretch and Love falling asleep and letting “Bird” (god I hate him) lay an easy one in in the final few minutes when it was close.
When was the last time...
the Nuggets took 43 free throws in a game?
Yeah...
my bad. The Nugs average 30 FTs a game so it can’t be all that unusual. Still, very questionable calls tonight, to say the least.
by SufferingBruin on Dec 29, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
He settled for a 21 foot shot with about 1:30 left in the game and down 1.
I would have liked to see him drive that instead. He had plenty of time on the shot clock.
He also hit a great runner with his off hand with Birdman all over him.
Let’s not sum up his night on one play.
there goes
our moral victory winning streak. this loss makes me angry and confused.
My stream died in at the half, but I was following the play by play
couple questions
1) was the 7 TO 3 quarter sloppy play, good D by Denver or a combo of both?
2) why did we have a 5 min scoreless stretch to start the 4th? Shots rimming out? Stupid shots?
1) slop.
2) stupid shots from poor offense.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
Beas had to sit early in the 4th with 4 fouls
And with he and Darko out the offense was predictably awful.
Some, but I have a hard time putting faith in that arguement
I was waiting for Webster and Flynn for a long time and when they came back it’s been less of an improvement than I hoped for (Flynn all-around and Webster on the defensive end)
AT can play, but I hate to think we need him to win vs a Nuggets team missing just about everyone.
As perhaps the biggest (only?) Flynn apologist here
He was beyond brutal in limited minutes tonight. Airballs, turnovers, horrible defense, chaos, just…gross. He’s not that bad, still coming back from injury, and I still contend he has value around the league, but that was awful.
I am a Flynn fan as well
Honestly, I just think he just needs more minutes so he can get into a rhythm. Some players just don’t do as well coming off the bench and I think Flynn is a perfect example. He is to athletically gifted to just be rotting away on the bench.
The "to [sic] athletically gifted to just be rotting away on the bench" part....no.
But the “some plays just don’t do as well coming off the bench” part…possibly. He is looking putrid coming off the bench.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
Agree to an extent...
But Luke has simply outplayed him on offense and I know that is mainly due to the playing time factor but Jonny has to find a way to force Rambis to put him on the floor. I really think that if Jonny wants to start getting more PT, he needs to man up on D.
Agreed, he's gotta force his way into the starting lineup
And so far, he is failing.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
I like Luke but
he is just to one dimensional and could thrive as a three point specialist, but I don’t see him as the long term answer at point guard.
Neither do I
But Rambis doesn’t seem to be the type of coach to just give guys a starting position based on potential. Whether he’s right or wrong, it’s hard to argue with him given how Jonny (and Luke for that matter) has been playing lately.
One way to man up on D is to draw foul after foul on the other team
getting their top tier guys to the bench. Eric Gordon, Manu and dozen of other ball handlers look for contact to play the foul attrition game. As fast a Flynn is I don’t think he’s that valuable unless he’s driving and dishing or getting to the line. Otherwise he seems like a defensive liability with mediocre to bad decision making.
He got plenty of unconditional minutes...
As a starter last year, and in my opinion, showed nothing to deserve them. It’s not rust, or a confidence problem. The guy simply doesn’t understand the basics of being a PG…or even a basketball in general.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
That's a little over the top
I mean, he does know how to………..huh………………………..dribble.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'm getting angrier
If you want to stop being a punchline you win that game, especially when Beasley plays great. WTF happened there? Why is Webster capable of looking fantastic and putrid in the same game? What was that shot selection early in the 4th? Does this team run an offense? Does Rambis just play pin the tail on the donkey when drawing up crunch time plays? Why does it appear that opposing teams can never miss long jumpers in the 4th?
I think Martell is overcompensating
When he plays within the offense he looks great, but I think there are times where he feels that he is the veteran that needs to step up and starts forcing things.
Good lord, he was just throwing up wild trash at one point
And he should never be allowed to inbound the ball again.
He came up huge but also had epic fails.
His second half was a big letdown
Especially that late 3 he gave up to Billups. I was relieved to see him switched onto Chauncey, thinking that he would be smart enough not to sag off but of course, I was punished for my optimism.
He forced Billups into a sloppy turnover as well
And those last two 3’s were just big shots, it’s not like he left him wide open, I was far more annoyed with his wild shots and turnovers than I was the defense on Billups, who just happened to have his best game of the season.
True... his D was much better
I still have that singular play burned into my memory. I wonder what Martell feels his role on this team should be?
I think he wonders that too
Would explain some of those shots
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Dec 29, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
I'm neutral after tonight's game. Some thoughts:
1) (Insert comment about refs)
2) Flynn was playing ugly ball.
3) Beasley and Love had another good game.
4) Are we so ridiculously more talented than Denver that we were expected to blow them out? I expected them to win, yes, but I don’t think it was heavily favored towards us by any means. This loss isn’t the end of the world. We were close to coming out of a win too had it not been for some tough shots by Billups.
5) Our perimeter defense is getting better, but still results in at least 3 wide open 3’s every game. This is no good.
6) Webster was way more positive than negative tonight. This is a qualitative stat of my brain.
7) Darko’s injury makes me sad.
Lols just chill.
Response
1) Annoying
2) Understatement
3) Agreed, although Love had some shaky D late, falling asleep on Anderson (sick of “bird”) for a wide open layup, also allowed Anderson to get position under the basket late which led to that key flop.
4) This was a home game against an injury ravaged Denver team that ruined a chance at a 4 game winning streak, it was an unacceptable loss. Agree on Billups just not missing late.
5) Kind of agree, although most teams get a few wide open treys a game
6) I honestly think he was a wash, made some big shots and a couple key rebounds and stops, but he ran the team into the land of chaos early in the 4th with some of the worst shot selection I have ever seen. Also, I believe that was him that botched yet another inbound play.
7) Dude is always limping, getting tired of it.
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