Trade deadline has passed and the wolves made no major moves as expected, here's to hoping we don't overpay for a free agent......
I think we can all agree that the wolves will not sign a top tier free agent ie (Lebron, Bosh, Wade) and now with knicks clearing cap space most likely won't get Joe Johnson or Amare(not that we need or want Amare anyway). My question is, are there any free agents that are worth paying for that we have a shot at? I can't think of any. I like Rudy Gay, but word is he could land with Clippers now. We have all this cap space but I feel like signing someone just to sign someone is the wrong move as Detroit made clear this season (Gordon and Villaneuva). Any thoughts on what the wolves are thinking? Maybe a draft day trade?
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Draft day trade or expect the Wolves to be major players in the 2011 market
Let’s face it: the only real free agent that the Wolves “should” target is Rudy Gay and I don’t think Khan will overpay. I think the Wolves will make all their off-season trades during the draft, with a few minor FA acquisitions at the end of the summer
I'm starting to think...
That something profound will happen in draft-week. I think that’s when we’ll see Kahn unload most of his bullets to position the team really well to come away with two game-changing building blocks. [Wall/Turner] + [Cousins/Favors/Aldrich], perhaps?
I wouldn't be surprised
if a draft-day trade happened. But I don’t think Kahn will be overpaying anyone.
I hope not
And I wouldn’t say he has grossly overpaid anyone, but Sessions was supposed to be a bargain that we could move again, yet I heard no trade deadline chatter on him, so did we sign him for too much (e.g. overpay), or how about Hollin’s contract, I think we overpaid, with such a project player, we didn’t need that last year, 2 years in our system should be enough to know if he is going to work out or not.
I know I sound very pessimistic, and I don’t mean to be, but we may have already overpaid on some players and I have no reason to be so confident as you are that we won’t again. I’m also not so naive to think that isn’t part of the game, it’s just that the first two signings have been … blah.
by Cedarpenguin on Feb 19, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Sights too low
I still maintain that we should set our sights on Wade. You must rebuild with quality. I see Gay as a complementary piece. We have plenty of those. We need to shoot for the stars here. Gay is settling in my opinion.
We just
don’t have the appeal to get a superstar, cold city, small market, not much of a core and a losing record, how do we compete with Miami, New York, Chicago, LA(clippers), New Jersey all of which have cap space similar or better than ours so its not that we are aiming to low by not looking for D-Wade, its that we are being realistic, we would have to get very very lucky to land any of those top free agents.
Itd be real nice if we
could get Wade. . .
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 18, 2010 7:33 PM CST reply actions
Gay is a pipe dream
We won’t overpay. Of all the teams with max cap space, we are the least likely to use it. I don’t see anything major going down, the draft is strong and will be our bread-n-butter. Just cross your fingers for a top 2 pick, and we can move upward from there.
Cap Space Dilemna
I don’t think the Wolves have a shot at the top 5 – Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Amare, Joe Johnson. I don’t believe Gay is worth a big contract and someone will offer him too much money – please don’t let it be us!
I think having empty cap space in order to absorb a big contract is the best idea I’ve heard.
Another possibility – offer Tracy McGrady a max two year contract – with year two being a team option.
Clearly we need to see him play the next couple of months, but it is quite possible he’s still good. He may not get a better offer, and he becomes a really high end expiring contract and a potential DUST chip with the year 2 team option.
There’s also the possibility he’s a good fit, helps the team develop, makes the Wolves competitive before he fades away.
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by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 18, 2010 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
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by jordanmowbray on Feb 18, 2010 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
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by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 19, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
A quote from Highlander:
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by TheEvilProfessor on Feb 19, 2010 7:59 AM CST up reply actions
That's also a lyric from the local band Cloud Cult
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by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 19, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
It's also the most famous line from Neil Young's My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)
Which predates both Highlander and Cloud Cult. One could say that it became infamous in the 90s as Kurt Cobain cited it in his suicide note.
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by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Feb 19, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
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by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 19, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think
we have a chance at any of the “top tier” free agents. But among all other teams who have cleared the cap space for one of these guys, how are we not one of the more attractive destinations? We have a new GM with a sincere, concrete “plan”, along with, IMO, an all star coaching staff, and ALL the pieces for the future. What does NY have? enough money to Buy 2 stars- but then what? they only have 5 other guys under contract next season, and two ride the pine. Last time I checked, you can NOT win a championship with two guys. Also, NJ? all they have is Jay-Z and maybe Beyonce if she tags along for the ride. And Miami is only as good as Wade is. If he bolts, they are in rebuilding mode. All these teams are shooting from the hip. I think MN looks Very attractive. Who wouldnt want to be a part of something that could mature into a dynasty of sorts? Thats where we are if we play all of our cards right.
Hopefully
that will be the case and we will get someone, but new york is a big market, new jersey will have abigger market and new owner willing to spend whatever it takes, miami is warm and off season hang out for many players, and all of the aforementioned teams have a winning tradition, the timberwolves have not shown that we are making any steps towards winning, just clearing cap space, we passed on potential stars in another draft just to look like fools by drafting two pg one who doesnt show up and one who is struggling……..what is appealing about that?
Frankly, its a little depressing
a huge opportunity missed.
There are now 6 teams (Knicks (x2), Bulls, Heat, Clippers, Nets and Wizards) all max money. If Amare opts out, Phoenix too. Cleveland, Toronto, Miami, LA (if Kobe opts out), Dallas (if Dirk does too) can all resign their players.
You have 8-10 teams chasing 4-5 game changing players. We are probably the 8-10 team on the list. I see us getting nothing. And, if anyone does switch teams (meaning LeBron, Wade, Bosh), the team they leave will now compete with us for the next tier.
It’s clear that we will now need a very lucky ping pong ball to keep moving. A ping pong ball less that #3 will be very disappointing. Plus, it signals to me that Jefferson or Love will have to be traded this summer.
I see my FO friend tonight. Maybe he will inspire me!! But I am a rather disappointed fan.
Toronto and Cleveland won't have the $
They’d both be at about $46-47 mil, so they wouldn’t have a lot to offer anyone either.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Feb 19, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
PHO wont
have max cap space if Amare opts out. They would have no more than us.
by TheEvilProfessor on Feb 19, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
I may have just misread that
by TheEvilProfessor on Feb 19, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
I found this article to be very negative from a Wolves perspective.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13610/the-teams-who-will-compete-in-2010-free-agency
It’s not just the few game changing players, but how few other good players are available and young enough to help the Wolves in a few years. Unless the Wolves are able to use their cap space to make a trade this summer, I don’t see the cap space helping.
If I were Kahn, I would let Rudy Gay and his agent know that he’s our #1 choice. Don’t dick around chasing LeBron, Wade or Bosh. Wine and dine Rudy and offer him $55M for 5 years on the first day possible.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Feb 19, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
The problem there...
is that Memphis will likely match that deal. They already offered Gay 5 years/$50 million last year, before his improved season this year. Think they won’t go the extra $5 million now?
There’s too many big market teams with cap space now. Whoever gets shut out on the true max guys will put a max or near max deal in front of Gay. I want no part of those numbers.
You may be right. And I agree that there is a good chance that a team (Knicks) that chases, but doesn’t get LeBron, Wade Bosh will overpay for Rudy, Joe Johnson etc.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Feb 21, 2010 2:19 AM CST up reply actions
The way to go...
It’s become quite clear that the way to go is going to be a trade. Those options have also changed a little. Deng has been discussed, but Chicago’s deadline activity makes a Deng deal less likely. Iguodala likely would have to be a package with Dalembert, but we don’t have that much cap room.
I think something similar to what Houston did is a likely option for the Wolves. Acquire assets/prospects for a bad contract.
An asset attached to Dalembert would make sense.
Galinari or Chandler attached to Eddy Curry could make sense if NY got word that LeBron and Wade were thinking package deal and they wanted to keep David Lee. I know they love Gallo, but if they could get two max guys while clearing enough to keep Lee, they’d have to consider it right? We could send them one of our extra picks (which they could trade for a future first to replace the one they’re sending to Houston). If the finances worked, Sessions could also be involved given their interest in him last summer.
My favorite is GS. Maggette and Biedrins have both been rumored to be on the block because of salaries. Both are overpaid, but would at least have decent on court value. I’d take either if it meant getting the Warriors pick. Of course we’d send back additional considerations, some combo of the Bobcats/Jazz picks and Pekovic’s rights. Anthony Morrow would be interesting as well given his 3 pt shooting acumen. Would you take Biedrins contract for Morrow? There’s A. Randolph as well who’s been rumored to be available for the right price.
Several options out there in the trade game…any other suggestions?
I think it is best route
but not going to be as easy as people expect. For one thing, teams have been much more careful the last couple years when it comes to signing players, so there are fewer bad contracts. The flip side of that is also that several teams are under the cap and are going to be desperate when they don’t get one of those top 5-10 FAs they thought they could get. More teams desperate for players will actually make some of those bad contracts more desirable. As an example, if he stays healthy the rest of the season, Kevin Martin will probably be worth more in July than Houston just gave up to get him.
The best case is for most to change teams.
LeBron to NY with a resigned Lee.
STAT to Miami with Wade.
Boozer to Chicago.
Bosh to NJ.
Rudy Gay to the Clippers.
That would leave Washington and Sacto as our only real competition in terms of facilitating big trades.
Or try this flip side
say LeBron stays in Cleveland and Boozer stays in Utah. If NJ gets shut out, how much might they give the Wolves for Jefferson? Won’t trade Wall for Jefferson, but I bet they would throw a #2 or #3 pick at the Wolves in this scenario.
Boozer's not staying in Utah
That’s about as close to a free-agent lock as there is.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Feb 20, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions

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