Damn the ice dams!
by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 24, 2010 9:49 PM CST
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The Stop-n-Pop household had an ice dam emergency late during the game so I'm going to open the game wrap up to an open thread along with a quick comment.
Has anyone else noticed how weird the Wolves' latest "Fan Development" commercials are? I've seen two now that lead out with "Kahn on the next big move". Why not "David Kahn on the Wolves" or "Wolves President of Basketball Operations on the next big move"? Instead, it's just KAHN. I thought that was kind of weird. Anywho...
That's all I got. Time to go take care of some damn ice dams.
BTW: Ice dams are not a good selling point for potential free agents.
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Actually, what is an ice dam?
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Hahaha.
Awesome, I mean, that sucks. Listen, I love Minnesota—it will always be home. But man, sometimes I forget just how crazy that weather can get. Georgia’s been in the 50-60’s.
by SF on Feb 25, 2010 3:45 AM CST up reply actions
Ice dams...
…are what happens when you get some snow on your roof that you do not remove quickly enough before the bottom layer melts and freezes due to heat coming from the house. The melt/freeze cycle happens a few times and the next thing you know, you have 5-6 inches of ice on your gutters and a few feet up the slope of your roof. The problem is the melting. Ice gets to where it wants to go. Just ask the glaciers. Actually, don’t ask them because of global warming. Anywho, ice works its way under the shingles and into the walls, melts, and then comes dripping through the tops of your kitchen cabinets, nearly pulling one of them off of the wall.
This leads Mrs. Stop-n-Pop, an Okie, to drop a few choice 4-letter words and to tell yours truly to a) fix the problem and b) look for a job south of I-40. I am currently putting together a list of roof contractors as well as looking through the wanted ads in OKC, Dallas, San Antonio, New Orleans, Little Rock, and Memphis.
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At least if you move to any of those places...
… you’ll finally be able to get every Wolves game on league pass…
Indeed
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 25, 2010 8:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is why I’m going to Seattle/Portland. Mountains + no MN winter bullshit? SIGN ME UP!
Oh yeah, this game was pretty boring.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
Seattle is great
Sometimes I miss the northern midwest winters… but then I look outside and it’s 50. On the other hand, I think I’ve lost any ruggedness I once had. There’s always a trade-off.
by aarendsvark on Feb 25, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Who needs ruggedness, I’ve had 25 years of it :P If I really want to rough it, I’ll go backpack in the mountains or the Olympic. Just no more 4 inch thick ice flows on the roads, having to dig my car out of 2 feet of snow and constantly having to listen to people talk about the Vikings. Sounds like paradise!
Seems like we have quite a few MN natives who live in the PNW on Canis. I’m guessing that the mild, “depressing” (to those not from MN) winters, similar metro size and feel and abundant outdoors activities are very attractive to us. I know they are for me. Oh, and the beer.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
The Northwest is awesome!
I was born and raised in MN and moved to SW Washington right out of high school so I can understand where you’re coming from. Moving out to the PNW would be the best move you could make if you are into the outdoors. Right now I live in the flatlands but the snow covered mountains are only an hour away. Also the beach is only a couple hours. This place is great!
And if you are wondering how I came to be a Blazer fan even though I grew up in MN, it is quite simple. I didn’t give a crap about basketball until one of my friends brought me to a Blazer game. From there I was hooked and figured I might as well root for the Blazers seeing as I’ve made the NW my home.
Blazersedge mods suck
I’d love to go to a Blazers game. Sounds like it would be incredibly intense, what with little else in the way of other teams dividing your loyalties. Portland’s a blast of a town, too. Of course I’d probably get thrown otu of the Rose Garden for being the only guy cheering for the Wolves.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
For the most part,...
…unless you’re a Lakers fan, you would probably be treated pretty well. There would be some good natured heckling but nothing too extreme. The Portland fans are crazy obsessive over their team but for the most part are really chill(except on the internet of course).
Blazers games are great
It’s refreshing to see a (mostly) full stadium in the middle of the season.
I moved to Ashland, OR
Small town, tons of theater and artists, not nearly the rain of the Portland/Seattle areas and winter lasts a month or two – tops!
We have some friends in
Portland who are begging us to move out there. If only they lived in Vancouver.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 25, 2010 8:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I love living in Seattle.
But I moved here from Sacramento too so what do I know?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Just remember...
cold weather keeps the bugs and the riff raff away.
You dont hear of 6 inch cockroaches in Minnesota.
Jeezus
First the mediocre Penya, and now the 6 inch mosquito??!!!
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??!!
And more important,
WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME???!
The great mn state bird
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 25, 2010 11:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
We should probably both be banned. I’ve already been banished to Wisconsin.
by Eric in Madison on Feb 26, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
and Phoenix?
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 25, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Yikes?
I take it this is a little bit more than just a couple of tube socks with rock salt could fix, huh?
I got some scary looking icicles forming along the sides of my place. Part of me wants to try and steam them off, but I will eventually go up there and do the rock salt deal.
My apartment building has a lot of huge icicles along the sides of the place
Last year they didn’t ever do anything about them, so this year my girlfriend and I have been throwing snowballs at them.
I honor you, McCleak
and your girlfriend too. That will, one day, be a fine memory. Even today.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
An Okie, that's right
Remind her about the relative frequencies of ice storms in the two locations.
Also tornado shelters, dug into the clay.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
We know all about the Okie ice storms
We were in Enid when this happened:
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This thread reaffirms my position
That the search for planets compatable with sustaining life is fruitless, since 98.5% of our own planet is uninhabitable.
Forget South of I-40, I don’t think you should look East of I-5.
by dropstep on Feb 25, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Or conversely,
we could conclude that because extremophile stuff lives in all sorts of seemingly inhospitable niches on earth, the range of possible niches for life elsewhere should be larger than we can imagine.
Taq polymerase and all that, you know?
If we can deal with ice, we can live on Europa!
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
Interesting tidbit I heard and by no means believe
apparently we will know within the next 5 years if there is life out there with us. I don’t know how they could know as the galaxy is… big. Not to go off on a strange new tangent (even for Canis), but I think there is life out there somewhere. The universe is just too damn big for the perfect conditions only to be found here (small chances yes, but again, wayyyy too much space out there for it not to happen elsewhere).
We tried the tube sock route before...
…but apparently missed a very important part of the roof. Actually, from what we can tell, the problem is happening underneath part of our overhang and out of sight of the roof line.
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yep..
….although i’m not looking forward to the premium increase.
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Rare chance for me to see the wolves live
and got attacked by the hawks mascot for wearing my love jersey.
good game though, if not for all the missed rebounds and free throws.
No burn for Darko?
I watched until mid 2nd quarter when my “tv signal” stopped working. He had a quick two blocks in like 4 minutes and his defense looked good. Was Hollins just too good to take out or was there something else? I find it odd he suddenly gets only 10 minutes.
Nobody really seemed to get started. Ellington was off, Jefferson looked ok early but i guess ran out of steam. It is good we kept close to a good playoff team that alot of people are scared off. This is a loss I can stomach.
He likely is hitting the initial wall
of only recently playing so much. Just getting a little less time to recover. I’m amazed he can still move around. Oh to be 25 again….
Second game of a back-to-back.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
In dealing with ice dams...
I have found it really helps to have a relatively agile big with a hot temper on your side.
Darko, Darko, Darko!
by secretarykissinger on Feb 25, 2010 12:32 AM CST reply actions
In Zgoda's recap...
he quotes Rambis praising Jefferson’s defense, saying it was “excellent.”
I didn’t see the game, so what did people think of Big Al’s D? Was it noticeably any better than it has been, or was Rambis just throwin’ the guy a bone?
I wouldn't go that far
but he was less statuesque last night than he was the last couple of nights. Really couldn’t get anything going offensively after his first shift.
Darko didn’t really have it last night; blocked a few shots but his group didn’t do well. Part of it was guys weren’t hitting shots while he was in there, but he isn’t a great rebounder, and at least right now doesn’t score. I suspect he was pretty much out of energy, plus Hollins had one of those nights and tossed in some shots.
by Eric in Madison on Feb 25, 2010 6:43 AM CST up reply actions
Preserve the trade value!!!
Ahhh-ooo-gaa, ahhh-ooo-gaa, ahhh-ooo-gaa!!! The whole league is watching and it’s time to start giving him minutes with someone other than the worst player on the team because we need him for a sign-and-trade in the off season. That’s my guess.
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Yes.
When POBO/Rambo saw what Kevin Martin was going for, I’ll bet their first thought was, “Hey, GLEN!!! I think we can get Kevin Mar—” and then they not only remembered the New Frugality, but also thought, “Yikes. I guess we’re stuck with Al for a couple more years.”
Let the misinformation campaign begin!
BTW, I thought ice dams were the result of inadequate attic insulation. Good news..a whole lot cheaper than a new roof.
you are correct...
..and our house was built in the teens/early 20s. we found that the area under the ice dam had newspaper for insulation.
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Bonus: Can you read any of the newspapers?
I found a sizable stash of Victorian porn in the walls of my sister’s old victorian.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
Yes
And none of it was interesting. Obits and public notices.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 25, 2010 8:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
His close personal friend...
…Andrew carnege wanted to build a new on campus stadium for the gophers but spineless state reps were getting in the way.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 25, 2010 11:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Danke
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by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 25, 2010 11:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Score! She was a babe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_era
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Both
He was contesting shots, but the Hawks aren’t really a team that relies as much on dribble drive, so it was an easier assignment. Offensively, he at least provided a defensive target; his teammates didn’t do a great job of getting into his line of sight. There were at least a couple of times that he was aggressively doubled and the closest outlet was at the top of the key, which is horrible spacing.
I don’t think he gets traded. The teams that want to limit their potential to the first and second round have deathmatches. Teams that want to be great figure it out and don’t deal a guy for spare parts. No matter what one’s opinion of Jefferson is, it’s stupid to trade any player who’s not completely recovered from injury. I’m not saying that a Landry-type deal wouldn’t be decent because Landry is a good player, but this team needs as much talent as they can get and figure out how to work with it.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Feb 25, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
when/if the Wolves decide that Jefferson is not getting traded...
He’ll be coming off the bench as the 4/5 sub…his ideal role, and the only way he works on this team.
"Only way he works on this team" is limited thinking
I said this on the other game thread, but no good team has only selfless or selfish players. For every game won by ball movement, there’s been a game won because the ball-dominant players made plays. The best teams integrate both types of player and get them to work cohesively.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Feb 25, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Defense
I actually commented to my wife several times that Al was playing a remarkably higher level of defense than his usual Zombie Walk.
I think the praise for Darko is a motivator.
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by HumdingerTV on Feb 25, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Was saying the same thing.
Maybe that explains Hollins playing better also because he sure as hell wasn’t nervous about Pech taking his spot.
by TheMorningAfter on Feb 25, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
First time all season
I got to see the Wolves play last night. They were playing Atlanta, so it was on locally. I only got to see most of the first half as I had class, but I came away with three unnerving possible realities:
1. As this team is currently made up, is Darko the best center?
2. As this team is currently made up, is Love the best power forward?
3. Corey Brewer is a whirling dervish out there. The kid is all over the place, literally and figuratively.
What in the bloody hell does "thowed" mean?
Your comments/questions
are thowed.
Growing my own "Darko-stache" since last Monday.
by biggity2bit on Feb 25, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Where is MAYNHOLUP!?...
… I miss his commentary. Did he get sucked into the Twolves corporate loop after that luncheon with David Kahn he was invited to? Or is he spending all of his time over at http://cocaineblunts.com?
Cf. Poor Richard's various theories on the "True Identity of Da Mayn"
I agree, he is sorely missed.
"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel
"Instead, it's just KAHN. I thought that was kind of weird."
It’s as if Kahn is the team’s superstar. Since no one wants to come here and we aren’t able and/or willing to spend a ton of cash on one player (other than Al Jefferson) we have to settle for our GM being the focal point of the franchise.
BetterLaettner
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 25, 2010 11:28 AM CST reply actions
Does anyone remember the "Trader Jack, dunking on a playground" promotional spots?
No? Maybe I imagined ’em.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
“…we aren’t able…”
BetterLaettner
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 25, 2010 11:44 AM CST reply actions
I can read. It just seems like you’re making an absolute statement based on little actual evidence. Don’t take this to mean that I think MN is a hot FA destination, but it seems to me that we should at least given Kahn a chance to make something happen before we play the “woe is us” card we’re so fond of here in the tundra.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
Not woe is us as much as...
Kahn is kind of a publicity whore.
BetterLaettner
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 25, 2010 11:53 AM CST reply actions
He’s definitely working it. At least he seems to be making an effort to let everyone know that he has a plan, though. To me, that’s a welcome change from the way things used to be.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
I also get the impression
that Kahn likes the spotlight, and also enjoys hearing himself speak (to a certain extent). But I also get the sense that Kahn wants the spotlight on him so that the players and especially the coaching staff can operate with diminished scrutiny. Kahn’s been pretty protective that way this year, making it very clear at just about every turn that it all comes back to him, that he’ll take the responsibility if it goes poorly. Interestingly he remains confident in his choices, but often gives credit to Rambis and the coaches when things improve (e.g. Brewer).
Growing my own "Darko-stache" since last Monday.
by biggity2bit on Feb 25, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
You're right
I made a blanket statement based on the commercials I’ve seen and heard in the past couple of days. My b
BetterLaettner
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 25, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
The plan
Don’t really feel up to making a full fanpost out of this, but here’s an SI story about the Bucks’ plans for 2011 free agency. The parallels are striking:
With a chilly climate and a downtown more comparable to a county fair than South Beach, lower Manhattan or Hollywood, Milwaukee won’t be a desired destination for free agents. Luring a prized player in the summer of ’11 is possible — Carmelo Anthony, Tony Parker and Al Horford could all be on the market — but a more realistic scenario is trading for a high-profile player in the middle of a multiyear deal.
“That could easily be what is available to us,” Hammond said. “Our first two trading deadlines, we haven’t had that ability. Next year we could do that. We could trade into that [cap space].”
One All-Star ought to do it because several key pieces are already in place. The Bucks have a budding star in point guard Brandon Jennings (aka Rubio) and a stud center in Bogut (not a stud but Darko/Aldrich could be compelling). They have a highly skilled forward in Ersan Ilyasova (Love) and a strong wing defender in Luc Mbah a Moute (Brewer or Turner?).
This could be what is in our future.
Growing my own "Darko-stache" since last Monday.
Could be
but, I happen to think Milwaukee has a pretty sweet downtown. And, climate isn’t the only factor in attracting free agents. Seattle had a hell of a time getting people to come, and I can’t think of too many NBA cities with a better climate. LeBron or Kobe are never going to end up in Milwaukee, but I would hardly describe Cleveland as the funnest place on Earth, and LeBron might well stay there.
Forbes came out with list
ranked by misery index (pollution, crime, weather, etc.), and Cleveland was ranked #1. They also came out with a worst winter weather cities, and Cleveland also ranked #1 there too. So IF the best player on the planet is willing to stay there long term, we might at least have a fighting chance to get a future Free Agent.
That is his hometown more or less.
BetterLaettner
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 25, 2010 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
Ichiro
I remember a few years ago Ichiro was talking about going to Cleveland I thought this was one of the best quotes from a player.
The Mariners were clearly not thrilled with the detour before opening a three-game series against the Chicago Cubs on Tuesday.
"To tell the truth, I’m not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to," Ichiro said through an interpreter. "If I ever saw myself saying I’m excited going to Cleveland, I’d punch myself in the face, because I’m lying."
I spent some time in Cleveland this summer...
…and saw a lot of potential. Rehab projects everywhere, cute neighborhoods, a nice downtown, and the lake. I think it’s a city on the rise, at least for artsy, young-ish types.
I don't follow baseball closely
But I try to catch the latest Ichiro quotes on a regular basis.
by aarendsvark on Feb 26, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
"With the 4th pick in the 2011 NBA Draft . . .
. . . the Minnesota Timberwolves select . . .
BLAKE HOFFARBER!"
So
Kahn is really McHale in Invasion of the Body Snatchers III
"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel
Anybody hear that Thabeet is being sent to D-League? At #2 he was a bust.
BetterLaettner
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Feb 25, 2010 7:16 PM CST reply actions
Crazy. Even if he eventually becomes a guy who can stay on the floor for over 30mpg and provide good defense, don’t you want more out of your #2 pick? I’m not sure if I’d call him a bust, not yet, but definitely a disappointment. Sure, his stock wasn’t that high at the time, but can you imagine how good Memphis would look with Curry and Mayo launching 3’s together?
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Might have been a pretty good combo as well
Mayo doesn’t need the ball in the same way that Martin did. But he still is a good shooter and another good defender to put next to Tyreke.
I seem to remember
something being said around draft time that Hashy Thabby was actually the owner’s pick. Maybe the hometown scouting report on Evans revealed some red flags, but it’s not like the Grizzlies are loaded up at guard.
Evans
Mayo
Gay
Randolph
Gasol
That’s one tough young (except for Zach) line up.
It'd be interesting though
because who do you put at PG? Mayo and Evans are both just slightly undersized SGs with handles and decent passing. Does a distinction even need to be made?
I don't think so
Evans-Mayo really is a backcourt with just 2 guards, as a former GM of ours used to pine for.
by Eric in Madison on Feb 26, 2010 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
They should have dealt Conley and drafted Rubio.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
Time
Everybody knew it was going to take time with him.
I don’t like how the NBDL has such a negative stigma. I wish it was like the minors in baseball or hockey where most players put a bit of time in before the NBA. I also wouldn’t mind seeing players who are having problems get sent down to work them out and then come back. Basically the same way the other sports use them.
Yeah, but...
..dude is a year older than Greg Oden. Of course he is going to get better, but when you’re 23 without a history of dominating good players…you’re in trouble. I realize he hasn’t played that much but if you’re about a year and a half older than Kevin Durant and just 2 years younger than Lebron and you lose playing time to Hamed Haddadi (less than 2 years older)…well, it is unlikely you will justify the #2 pick in any draft.
'It's just noise coming out of an ugly scientist.' Michael Scott
Agreed about the D-league
Assign every pick there, let them play to work their way up. Corey Brewer, as a rookie. It should work that way.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
I wish the pros had more call-ups from the NBDL
It might erase some of the stigma fans have with it. Of course, when I think of D-League call ups, I think of the Heat tanking to get Beasley/Rose. Can anybody think of some solid NBDL players who have a place on a pro roster now? Will Bynum and the Birdman spring to mind.
by aarendsvark on Feb 26, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Many former NBA draftees, waived players and undrafted players have played in the NBA D-League. Some of the called-up D-League players that went on to have successful NBA careers include Rafer Alston, Louis Amundson, Chris Andersen, Kelenna Azubuike, Matt Barnes, Andray Blatche, Devin Brown, Will Bynum, Matt Carroll, Eddie Gill, Stephen Graham, Jason Hart, Chuck Hayes, Anthony Johnson, Dahntay Jones, Jamario Moon, Mikki Moore, Smush Parker, Bobby Simmons, Ime Udoka, Von Wafer, C. J. Watson, and Mike Wilks.15 Aside from these players, there are several successful NBA players who were assigned to the D-League in their first and second season, such as José Juan Barea, Brandon Bass, Andray Blatche, Aaron Brooks, Jordan Farmar, Marcin Gortat, Ramon Sessions and Martell Webster.16
-Wikipedia
Link
Truehoop just did the same thing today.
I’d forgotten about Sessions and Louis Williams. Ok, so there are a lot of successful call-ups. I just have a short attention span.
by aarendsvark on Feb 26, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
"Wolves coach Kurt Rambis generously praised Jefferson, not for his offense but for his defense." - strib..
“I thought Al did a terrific job playing defense,” Rambis said. “That’s something we’re really working with him on, to be a presence at that end of the floor: moving his feet, defending his people out on the floor, defending smaller, quicker guys. I thought he did a really good job.”
by Kevin Love Jefferson on Feb 26, 2010 2:00 PM CST reply actions
I'll get more excited about this
When it proves to be the rule instead of the exception. The only reason his stout defense was pointed out was because it was out of the ordinary. I know you like to post “at the rim” defensive numbers and put some blame on the perimeter D, but all things considered, Al is still a sub-standard defender. It becomes painfully obvious when you watch almost any T-Wolves game. I truly hope he figures this whole defense thing out, but this praise this is only somewhat encouraging. Once I start hearing it and seeing it more often then not, then it’s something I’ll take more seriously.
Has Jeff ever played...
… with a legit, mature defending big? I’m not bringing up the whole who-can-we-pair-with-Al thing so much as I’m asking if he’s ever had teammates to show him what authentic, effective post defense looks like. Sometimes seeing something modeled is more effective than having it explained.
yes, when jefferson and perkins were paired when jefferson was with Boston. But they both were young then.
That was 4 years ago when both perkins and Jefferson were 21 y.o. Doc was a poor defensive coach. It wasn’t until they brought in Thibodeau (the year after jefferson left), that the Celtics developed good defensive schemes.
The Celtics in 2006-7 gave up 99 pts per game – they were 18th in ppg given up. Defensive Rating per Basketball Reference was 16th. But that is really too high because the celtics spent most of that season tanking. Doc and Ainge spent the whole latter part of the season, sitting various players especially against weak opponents competing for lottery picks. Without tanking that season, the celtics probably would have been at least 12th or 14th in defensive rating.
If Jefferson was healthy and played with Perkins today with the added maturity and experience of both of them and if they played for a good defensive coach, I think they would be in the top 5 or 10 for interior defense.
by Kevin Love Jefferson on Feb 26, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
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