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GameThread #64: vs. DAL

Dallas Mavericks at Minnesota Timberwolves, Mar 8, 2010 7:00 PM CST


2009/2010 NBA Season

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14-49 (Home 9-22)
vs.
43-21 (Road 21-12)
Vitals:
March 8, 2010
7:00 PM CST
Target Center
Broadcast:
Radio: 1130 AM KFAN
TV: FS North / League Pass
Probable starters:
Jonny Flynn PG Jason Kidd
Corey Brewer SG Rodrigue Beaubois
Ryan Gomes SF Caron Butler
Ryan Hollins PF Shawn Marion
Al Jefferson C Dirk Nowitzki
Stats
(29th) -8.47 - SRS - 2.67 (12th)
(29th) 101.3 - Offense - 108.8 (10th)
(25th) 110.3 - Defense - 106.2 (12th)
(3rd) 95.8 - Pace - 92.2 (19th)
Previous Meetings

Nov 13 2009: MIN 77 - DAL 89

Feb 5, 2010: MIN 117 - DAL 108

Mar 3, 2010: MIN 109 - DAL 112

Links:
Mavs Moneyball / Yahoo Preview / Timberwolves Gameday

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Rambis was on KFAN this morning

Thought you might want to listen. Pretty good interview. The Rambis portion is about 20 minutes into this hour. You can tell that Rambis really likes the potential of Darko and wants him around next season.

http://www.kfan.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=KFAN_PADubay.xml

by Rumblebee on Mar 8, 2010 6:40 PM CST reply actions  

At the end

Rambis actually said he thinks Darko has a higher upside than Andrew Bynum!

by Rumblebee on Mar 8, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I want what he's smoking

Obviously saying good things about his guy, but there’s no way that Bynum has a lower upside than Darko. Maybe seven years ago, but not now.

by KMils on Mar 8, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Brewer on Beaubois, in theory, is an interesting matchup

Or do they give Corey Caron Butler?

"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."

by feral on Mar 8, 2010 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

I think Gomes can handle Butler

Seems like he’s turned into a mediocre jump shooter instead of being an elite slasher. I’m sure Kidd and Beaubois are licking their chops at the prospect of Flynn guarding one of them. And whoever Brewer is guarding can look forward to a bunch of open 3-point looks since Corey runs around trying to double everyone or cover for someone else’s mistake.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 8, 2010 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Feelin good about this one

The ping pong balls will thank me for that kiss of death.

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 7:11 PM CST reply actions  

Now Hanneman's dropping OAR plugs, along with cheeseball wordplay?

“Al Jefferson and the Timberwolves, tonight, looking to take this town!”

Cue “This Town”

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

Love the Big Al production..

but I don’t want a Darko DNP, Tom and Jim…

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 7:23 PM CST reply actions  

ugly pick and roll defense

led to the easy rebound and put-back for najera. Can’t give ’em those…

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 7:23 PM CST reply actions  

Did you just notice Love and Jefferson both trying to post up in the lane? They were literally a foot and a half from each other. Need better spacing than that. Yikes.

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

Ugh Lee

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 7:26 PM CST reply actions  

Oh Oh....

Dallas now leads 32 – 23

by mnsportsjunkie on Mar 8, 2010 7:31 PM CST reply actions  

When did Dallas sign Grady...

from “Sanford and Son”?

Seriously, Stevenson’s beard is just out there!

by SoDakHmr on Mar 8, 2010 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

Eduardo should simply go by “Ed” Najera. How sweet would that be?

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a theory

that since he and Darko are friends, Rambis is giving Sasha more minutes so that Sasha lobbies Darko to stay here.

(BTW, I only half believe my own theory).

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

sadly so does Rambis

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Hollins mixing it up with Stevenson...

apparently hit him with an elbow. If he used his hands, not sure he could have hit the mark.

by SoDakHmr on Mar 8, 2010 7:46 PM CST reply actions  

Veetle Player

seems to be working well. I hope it’s not spyware.

by WillistonCoyote on Mar 8, 2010 7:46 PM CST reply actions  

if you had any doubts, you are quite the fan...

to risk screwing up your ’puter for the chance to watch extended Sasha minutes

by deus04 on Mar 8, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Man this is so ugly....

I was thinking of going to a game during Spring Break but there is no way I’m wasting my money on this.

by jballer_13 on Mar 8, 2010 7:50 PM CST reply actions  

Dallas up 16 w/ their B squad and Dirk. Not Pretty

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 7:51 PM CST reply actions  

Sasha's form is awful.

If we can fix Corey’s stroke, why not at least HELP Sasha a bit so his minutes aren’t so unbearable.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 7:51 PM CST reply actions  

With Flynn out, I might add.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m a moron. Damnit.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

At least they took him out now. Maybe the wolves can take advantage of the Mavs resting such a basketball force… Here’s our chance to get back in this game.

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

it's official...

only reason I’m still watching is to see Corey push the streak to #28

by deus04 on Mar 8, 2010 7:53 PM CST reply actions  

Done

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

COREY!

and with that, there is no more reason to watch…

by deus04 on Mar 8, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

ah, not yet...

Brewer called my bluff. But I have to say the 14 pt deficit feels like 24. Probably because I missed the 19-9 start.

by deus04 on Mar 8, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

After watching Barea,

shortness is no longer an excuse for Flynn.

by WillistonCoyote on Mar 8, 2010 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

should this be the type of player we hope flynn can become? Is this his more accurate ceiling?

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

If that’s true, I will now light myself on fire.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

is it that far off, though?

Maybe not his ceiling, but Barea seems like a short, scoring guard without the height or range of Terry? It seems somewhat realistic to me… (or maybe this is just me not being a huge fan of Flynn and getting pouty watching bench players consistently torch my favorite squad.)

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

But it seems like he has more space to operate in

If we played a spread offense with the bigs out of the lane, it would allow Flynn to play drive and kick. I’m not saying we should change our offense, I just think that our offense isn’t geared toward drive and kick.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 8, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

If your child can play...

get him to the Target Center soon! We’ll put him in Tucker’s uniform – nobody knows what he looks like anyway! :)

by SoDakHmr on Mar 8, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

At some point he's going to get brushed off the plate

in retaliation for Jet’s injury the other day.

"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."

by feral on Mar 8, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Just to clarify

I don’t promote violence I saw as a Three Stooges smack in the head

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Good Lord Al

Caron Butler is fronting you in the post and what do you do? You try to seal him a few feet from the basket so that we can’t lob an entry pass over Caron’s head. How about moving out away from the basket a few feet!

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:07 PM CST reply actions  

DAL only has 1 TO??? just wow...

and we got 14 already…

i better stay away from any stream tonite.

by wery88 on Mar 8, 2010 8:07 PM CST reply actions  

Jonny should have

used the rim as his ally by bringing it around the other side.

by WillistonCoyote on Mar 8, 2010 8:12 PM CST reply actions  

What’s sad to me is that a great majority of this board displays more knowledge about the fundamentals of the game than our team does.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

in fairness to Jonny...

I have NEVER seen a NBA player choose to shoot a reverse layup to finish a one-on-none breakaway

by deus04 on Mar 8, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

DWade does it fairly regularly, doesn’t he? And Kobe?

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

He could have kep his back between him and the defender & finished,

but he turned his body to the right side, where his body would not be in the way of the pursuing defender, exposing the ball. The guy would have had to climb his back.

by WillistonCoyote on Mar 8, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Good finish

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 8:12 PM CST reply actions  

Completely off topic

But has there ever been a professional athlete that has dealt with not one, but TWO alleged sexual assaults within the span of a little more than one year? What is Roethisberger doing?!

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

Anybody tuning in to CLE-SAS on NBAtv?

Clearly Cavs announcers, and they are @#$%ing annoying!

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 8:24 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

the spurs may lose to the LeBron’s…sans LeBron.

ohh…that’s sad.

by nodnarb on Mar 8, 2010 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Corey Brewer triple double watch

10 points, 6 rebounds, and 4 assists at the half. At this pace of play, you just never know what might happen. Perhaps even a quadruple double is in play with 3 turnovers as well!

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 8, 2010 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

In a weird way

it’s like we’re slowly improving some very promising talents while going for the ping pong balls. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if a month or two into next season this team really took off.

Assuming we keep blowing chunks and get one of the top two draft picks.

by TMiss on Mar 8, 2010 8:28 PM CST reply actions  

i hope so...

…because this is getting old and repetitive to watch.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com

by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 8, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

pavs and hollins..

…both have more minutes than the team’s best player.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com

by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 8, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

in other words...

..the team’s two worst players have more burn than their best.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com

by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 8, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

although..

…to be fair, the mavs went to a zone early on and this loss will be on the perimeter players for being unable to handle a basic f’ing zone defense.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com

by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 8, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

but isn't Love both a better outside shooter and rebounder for other outside shots?

Wouldn’t a zone defense be one of the more effective defenses for Love to face?

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

yes..

…they could plant him at the free throw line and use him to collapse the defense. it’s pretty much the most basic way to attack a zone. amazingly, the wolves aren’t using him (or darko). a big who can pass from the free throw line and who can knock down the mid range jumper is a zone killer every bit as much as a guard who can hit the 3 and put it on the deck with proficiency.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com

by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 8, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that’s basically every zone offense I ran through high school. Rambis knows about this, right?

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't get it

It’s hard to believe that Hollins is that much more effective to warrant twice the PT

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

the sad thing is

Hollins is wicked athletic. if he had any clue as to what he was supposed to do he would deserve those minutes. sadly, that’s not the case.

by nodnarb on Mar 8, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Brook Lopez

has no rebounds halfway through the 3rd quarter… Eh?

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 8:30 PM CST reply actions  

Great fastbreak defense by Brewer

Completely changed that shot without committing the foul

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

i feel bad for jonny

he’s like ollie in hoosiers. you love the guy, and really want him to succeed…but when it counts he’s going to dribble off his foot and out of bounds.

by nodnarb on Mar 8, 2010 8:34 PM CST reply actions  

beaubois..

…can get whatever he wants against him. it’s almost comical.

Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com

by Stop-n-Pop on Mar 8, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

He just got whatever he wanted from Love as well. It’s not just Jonny.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, I know Marion is pretty good

But he’s made a thousand of those one-handed flip shots on the run tonight. Those aren’t easy.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 8, 2010 8:37 PM CST reply actions  

true

but having to watch him and kmart shoot makes my eyes bleed. yuk.

by nodnarb on Mar 8, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Al: There were 4 guys collapsing on you

There had to have been a better shot than a fall-away baby hook!

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 8:42 PM CST reply actions  

Beat you to it.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I gotta bad feeling...

that KLove may be part of a summer trade. It’s obvious that Rambis is not impressed with his game.

by SoDakHmr on Mar 8, 2010 8:43 PM CST reply actions  

Somewhere KLJ just fainted.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I fear that we may be overvaluing Love a bit too much.

I’m not advocating trading him by any means, just a reality check.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

if Love is traded

 I will stop watching wolves basketball and hire a hitman to kill Rambis

by GWST11 on Mar 8, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Only a small part of me

says that I’ll have to report you…

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's showcase Al the rest of this season

Tonite may be the beginning of the process.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:44 PM CST reply actions  

He's had it easy tonight

He’s got the likes of Dampier, Marion, and Najera trying to defend him as opposed to Dampier or Haywood. He would not be doing this against those two.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 8, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

oh crap!

Darko and Love are out there at the same time. Who’s panicking?

by nodnarb on Mar 8, 2010 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

He is our best player

but tonight he has looked horrible.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 8, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

yes not one of his best games

but we should still develop our young players. Flynn has 7 TO’s and 1-6 but played 22 mins already.

by GWST11 on Mar 8, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Just more proof of Rambis’ double-standard.

by Boss10 on Mar 8, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Flynn with 8 assists

Can he get 2 more for his first ever double-digit game?

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:54 PM CST reply actions  

After posting that, I realized how sad it was that our #6 overall pick at PG hasn’t had such a game yet, at least to my knowledge.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

We have neither a 10-assist game, nor a 30 pt game.
Both tonight??

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

One down.

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Darren Collison has 18 asst through 3 quarters.

by TWolvesFanInLA on Mar 8, 2010 8:54 PM CST reply actions  

It’s too bad he was gone when we picked and we weren’t looking to draft a point guard this year anyway…

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

And Curry only has 6 points through 3. My own personal schaudenfraude.

by BVP on Mar 8, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Which just proves that sub-6 foot point guards are a dime a dozen. and not worth the #6 overall pick.

by WMCL on Mar 8, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

No he's not.

Collison is 6’1". Flynn is 6’0", if that. (And it’s irrelevant, since Collison is producing what he’s producing regardless of how tall he is.)

by John Doe on Mar 9, 2010 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Tonight is one night I don't blame him

No one else has proven they can do crap. Our best offense has been Al forcing up shots.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 8, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Love not getting any PT

is really starting to annoy the fuck out of me, this is a 14 win team, no reason why he shouldn’t be playing 30+

by bheidge on Mar 8, 2010 9:06 PM CST reply actions  

Rambis really needs to learn how to coach a young developing team. Its not very fucking complex.

by jordanmowbray on Mar 8, 2010 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed...

It’s also worrisome for what it suggests about Rambis’ ability to evaluate talent. If he doesn’t realize that Love is one of the (if not THE) best players on this team, I don’t want him divvying up minutes for this team next year and beyond.

by WolvesFan03 on Mar 8, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

New theory...

We plan to keep Love, but he looks too good. In order to keep him out of trade discussions and to improve our ping-pong number, the POBO and Rambis have cooked up a system to lessen KLove’s value by putting him in situations where he can’t look good, thus making Al look even better to potential trading partners this summer. They are trying the same tactic with Hollins, but, well, uhhhhh….and here’s where the theory breaks down. ;-)

by SoDakHmr on Mar 8, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually agree with this theory

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Ryan Hollins

with possibly his finest non-putback rebound as a Wolf (or player) ever.

by Mplax on Mar 8, 2010 9:10 PM CST reply actions  

at this point, based on Love's minutes and shooting...

I’m gonna have to assume he’s fighting an illness of some sort, or something like that. If not, let’s start giving Bill Lambier some minutes…

by deus04 on Mar 8, 2010 9:11 PM CST reply actions  

-17 +/-

and it’s worse than that looks. I know ellington’s hurt. more wilkins, even, c’mon

by ChicagoViking on Mar 8, 2010 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Good call what happened to Wilkins tonight?

Must’ve looked at Rambis’ daughter the wrong way?

by Mplax on Mar 8, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Pavlov's Dog Licks

not salivates. God, he’s awful

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:14 PM CST reply actions  

Don't mess with Hollins, Butler

He’ll knock you out with those hands of stone!

by Mplax on Mar 8, 2010 9:15 PM CST reply actions  

No mas, no mas

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

No how skinny that guy looks

I’m not getting into a fight with him. I bet he’s a beast.

Side note, I hate announcers that whine like the Dallas ones are right now.

by Mplax on Mar 8, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed, they are hard on the ear

think of they had a twang to go with their whine.

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I give him credit

for at least scrapping out there and playing with a bit of fire.

by Rascal Flatts on Mar 8, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

How could Hollins have attended UCLA for 4 years...

and not have somebody point him to the volleyball court? Could have been a monster front liner on the olympic team.

by SoDakHmr on Mar 8, 2010 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

not at UCLA

those dudes can actually play.

by nodnarb on Mar 8, 2010 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

That's why Hollins did not play much

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

True.

Maybe the track team as a high jumper, then?

by SoDakHmr on Mar 8, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Psst

He was.

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh

I wasn’t tryin to be mean.

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

it was meant towards Hollins

by nodnarb on Mar 8, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

sorry

never was good ‘bout doin’ my homework! :)

by SoDakHmr on Mar 8, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

He did clear his height, which is impressive.

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Pavs 4-12 fg

better than his 0-3 from FT.

and he’s still on the court.

I heard Rambis is the one who lobbied for him. admit you were wrong, kurt, please

by ChicagoViking on Mar 8, 2010 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

I think this game shows once again

that the Twolves lack any complete combination of a squad

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

They suck pretty completely in combination.

Trying to be optimistic here

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just saying they got good players

but they can’t find a way where they work well together.

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

That's the problem in the NBA though

everyone has good players. So the mix is important, plus at least one superstar and a supporting star even teams want to compete on a nightly basis.

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

had to get TO #25

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:26 PM CST reply actions  

How are we averaging only 16 TO /game???

Every game seems like 19, 20 or more. When was the last time we were under 18? It is unbelievable how many dumb TOs we get every game.

'It's just noise coming out of an ugly scientist.' Michael Scott

by CaliWolf on Mar 8, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Not anymore

This is now a Tween’s game

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

They just need Lawrence Westbrook

Because he can just take over a game whenever he wants

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe not Westbrook

but someone… ANYONE with that capability (I guess Al falls into that category some of the time)

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha

That was the Westbrook submission for KFANs Preposterous Statements award.

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I've had too many

I thought we were talking about the Vikings backup RB situation

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

You're in

a better place than I.

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Rambis.

Wow i never thought I would say this, but i would definitly prefer Coach Kevin McHale over Coach Kurt Rambis. I know that its not even been a full year yet, but if Rambis keeps this up its not looking good. At least McHale showed promise and had some sense of what the f he was doing. On the other hand, Rambis is a mess, has the most absurd rotations and allocates minutes awfully. Oh… and most of all, McHale would start love, no doubt.

Anyone?

by jordanmowbray on Mar 8, 2010 9:29 PM CST reply actions  

Mchale GM

maybe signs pavs to long-term contract, so….

by ChicagoViking on Mar 8, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

lol, he probably would. But McHale the coach wasnt half bad. McHale the GM was the most dreadful GM in the history of sports

by jordanmowbray on Mar 8, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll never know about McFail as coach

Two issues: A) he probably got a little bounce after they fired Witless, who was simply awful in all respects; B) he didn’t even like doing it, the travel, etc. So over time that would have played out, probably negatively.

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

Whitman maybe was worst wolves coach. OK, absolutely.

by ChicagoViking on Mar 8, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I would like see someone tear him a new hoophole

just like he did to his players. He was terrible. Still love the picture someone posted of him in his shorts and loafers. Ewwww.

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, Mchale and the good ol' boys would me mired in mediocrity

at the pinnacle. No thanks. I’ll still give Rambis some time, Kahn’s windows are closing fast, though one last one may remain open so that he can be defenestrated if his plan does not pan out.

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." Casey Stengel

by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with you

the players seemed to respond to McFale (the coach). they were energetic and upbeat even though they sucked. I think they are playing for the #1 pick.

by nodnarb on Mar 8, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

they're playing hard for rambis

you just get killed by Dallas when you have a billion to

by ChicagoViking on Mar 8, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree fully.

The team seemed definitly seemed much more upbeat and energetic, for sure. And atleast we knew what we were going to get with McHale. I seriously have no idea what the hell is happening in Rambis’s brain… but i can tell you one thing, he certainly isnt taking logic into account

by jordanmowbray on Mar 8, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I still say

it was a reaction to the Whitman firing. In many cases, teams show improved play after a coach is canned.

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

very true about wittman

but remember that McHale also did a good job when Saunders got fired in 2005. Goddam i miss Flip… now there’s a coach to be proud of.

by jordanmowbray on Mar 8, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Remember who fired Flip

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

does that make McHale the anti-Christ?

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand where your coming from.

Hell, I know its probably a bit premature that we can say Rambis is an idiot. Because he was, after all, coached by arguably the greatest coach in the history of the NBA for his whole career and coveted by a number of NBA teams. But still… these lineups are so goddam sporadic, nowhere in the NBA do we see any team with this happening (except for maybe Westphal in Sacramento… but who knows wtf is happening down there… Supposedly Hawes and Tyreke got pissed at Westphal, so Hawes got sat the next game, etc. IDK)

But cmon its not like Pavs was playing well… he was -20, shooting 3-10, 0-3 from the FT line, his usually sub-par defense… any coach would take him out of the game, but instead he kept in… even during crunch time. Maybe, like you said, Wilkins needed the night off/didnt understand game plan… and could as well have been the same with Tucker… but atleast put in the best lineup (big man lineup, small man lineup, idc) to help you win the game, and tonight (or any other night) that was not pavs.

by jordanmowbray on Mar 8, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

It is naive to pretend you know know why guys are coming in and out

We have no idea what goes on in practice, we have no idea who is banged up, we have no idea what guys are being asked to do, etc. Just because we can’t figure out why Love got 12 minutes tonight doesn’t mean there isn’t a good reason. Half the time the complaint seems to be ‘make him earn the minutes (usually Flynn)’, half the time it is ‘just play him it isn’t like it matters (usually Love)‘.
 Sorry, just getting fed up with the assumptions that we’re tanking or Rambis is an idiot because the rotations seem odd to a bunch of fans, even hoop-head fans. No offense.

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by CaliWolf on Mar 8, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Part of the point is....

….I don’t know. But I’m not leaping to ‘a guy who’s been on the bench with HOF coaches for many years and widely considered a top coaching prospect is actually a total idiot/trying to lose’.

  Pavs played 21 minutes Wilkins 1, Brewer 39, and Gomes (37) the rest at the 2/3. So Pavs took time from Wilkins and Tucker. Tucker is nailed to the bench for reasons none of us know. Maybe Wilkins is hurt, maybe he routinely gets used by the guys he would have been defending. Maybe Pavs was doing all the right things. Maybe Wilkins needed the night off or completely failed to execute what they worked on in practice. Pavs was in the doghouse and just admitted he wasn’t playing the right way, maybe Rambis saw him doing the right things and let him go. I mean seriously, we can’t know. It is easy to say ‘play Tucker what have we got to lose.’ But it is quite likely Tucker would have been worse.

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by CaliWolf on Mar 8, 2010 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

i understand where your coming from.

Hell, I know its probably a bit premature that we can say Rambis is an idiot. Because he was, after all, coached by arguably the greatest coach in the history of the NBA for his whole career and coveted by a number of NBA teams. But still… these lineups are so goddam sporadic, nowhere in the NBA do we see any team with this happening (except for maybe Westphal in Sacramento… but who knows wtf is happening down there… Supposedly Hawes and Tyreke got pissed at Westphal, so Hawes got sat the next game, etc. IDK)

But cmon its not like Pavs was playing well… he was -20, shooting 3-10, 0-3 from the FT line, his usually sub-par defense… any coach would take him out of the game, but instead he kept in… even during crunch time. Maybe, like you said, Wilkins needed the night off/didnt understand game plan… and could as well have been the same with Tucker… but atleast put in the best lineup (big man lineup, small man lineup, idc) to help you win the game, and tonight (or any other night) that was not pavs.

by jordanmowbray on Mar 8, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Jersey lost in Memphis

7-56
well, you know…

'It's just noise coming out of an ugly scientist.' Michael Scott

by CaliWolf on Mar 8, 2010 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

You forgot to add

Poor basterds

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

well, you knew :)

'It's just noise coming out of an ugly scientist.' Michael Scott

by CaliWolf on Mar 8, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

It's become a familiar refrain, like that jeep driver in M*A*S*H (movie)

“F*&^ing Army”

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude, ya’ll gotta get rid of Hollins! Trust me, we saw this last season. He’s a knuckelhead. Like in the playoffs when he dunked on Duncan then talked trash to him.

by CJD02 on Mar 8, 2010 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

Nobody here is in love with him

But that was a terrible call.

Dark Love is a-Brewin...

by Bahlgren1 on Mar 8, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

god news is my favorite news

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

God writes his news on Sarah Palin's hand

as a poor man’s teleprompter

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

God bless Palin

without her we would all be improsoned by the Chinamen

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

apparently

Obama said backwards mean “I’ll let the Chinamen imprison my people and turn them into communists” in Swahili. Or so I heard…

by littleboxes on Mar 8, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, I missed this quote

which so insane that I normally would assume it’s a joke. Recent remark she made?

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not a remark

It’s a fact of life. Viva la Palin ’11

BetterLaettner

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Mar 8, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Palin Bachman Bech

A Trinity of Dunces

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow 120 points for Dallas

and Love is on the bench probably because he’s a bad defensive matchup against the Mavs

by bheidge on Mar 8, 2010 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

a moral victory

they had 37 in the second. We held them to under 150 for the night.

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh the matchups!

Heaven forbid we give Love and Jefferson any burn together against a team with zero uninjured centers. They simply don’t have the size to contend with massive frontlines like Marion/Najera.

by John Doe on Mar 9, 2010 1:23 AM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't matter who we draft/sign...

Wall/Turner/Gay, whoever we get Rambis will find a way to get the least possible out of him. He’s kind of like Greg Popvoch…only the exact opposite.

by Blakeley on Mar 8, 2010 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

Also...

Don’t think Kahn can do anything about the disaster that is Kurt Rambis. Kahn has a 2 year 1 million dollar contract. Rambis is 4 year 8 Million. WE all know who’s calling the shots there.

by Blakeley on Mar 8, 2010 9:35 PM CST reply actions  

new theory

Love is working Rambis’ daughter. She’s a California girl…

Rambis is upset, does not accept the relationship. I’ve seen this movie. In the end, there’s a wedding and an NBA championship.

by littleboxes on Mar 8, 2010 9:40 PM CST reply actions  

Don't forget the Beach Boys connection, either

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

this movie already has a great soundtrack.

by littleboxes on Mar 8, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

"God Only Knows"

could be played during the scene where Rambis is making out his player rotations.

by SoDakHmr on Mar 8, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Love is probably gay.

I have a finely tuned gaydar and Love is definitely beeping like crazy.

Pau Gasol also sets off the ‘ol gaydar. I know he’s married, but I’m pretty certain he’s gay, whereas I only have a hunch about Love.

by roundhouse on Mar 9, 2010 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

May I ask how old you are?

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by uncle rico on Mar 9, 2010 1:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Need a title

“Making Passes” ?

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by uncle rico on Mar 8, 2010 9:47 PM CST reply actions  

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