Wacky Scheme #2
by jianfu on May 21, 2010 1:34 PM CDT
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The post-lottery, OMG-We're-Not-Getting-the-Wing-We-Thought-We-Would-and-We-Hate-the-Alternatives edition.
I still think the Wolves are all-in on Evan Turner. They have assets, cap space, and I think there can be inroads to be made with both Philly and New Jersey. Throw in the fact that there might not be another team in the game that needs an Even Turner more than the Wolves and, well, I'm not ruling him out.
That said, if it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be. And you have to move on the best you can. So here we go!
To the Clippers: #4 pick, #23 pick
To the Wolves: #9 pick, owed-Jaric pick (likely 2012) back.
Wolves finally get out of the shadow of the Era of Reckless Decisionmaking. I think most of us would describe that pick as being an absolute anvil-on-a-string over our head. Clippers get to move up for one of the "blue chippers" now, pick up a scratch ticket for their trouble, and give up an extra pick they have coming two years down the road. I'd even maybe consider the #16 instead of the #23, but I don't know yet.
Wolves pick Xavier Henry at #9. At first I wasn't a big Henry fan, as I considered him a bit of a one-dimensional shooter. But more and more I'm warming up to him as a competent role playing starter. He has a very valuable skill the Wolves lack, he has an NBA body, he gets good marks for his defense, he's a decent-though-not-explosive athlete, he gets good character marks, he's very young with upside left, he knows how to play off the ball, and most analysts (Hollinger, Weiland) consider him a solid prospect. Not that sexy, but if the Wolves are dead set against Cousins, they're looking at a bunch of likely role players, anyway. May as well get one who fits.
Wolves pick Kevin Seraphin at #16. This is why I'd love to have the Clips take #23, as I don't think this guy will last that long (though he could, who knows?). Of all the athletic project big men in this draft, this guy seems to have the best potential to work out, if only because we "know" more about the others (and much of it isn't too good).
Wolves sign G/F Ronnie Brewer to a mid levelish contract. Of all the feasible free agency targets out there, I think this guy might represent the best combo of value/potential. He won't get a ton, because he's never been a big ppg type, and he'll never ever be a shooter. But he's been very productive/efficient overall throughout his career, and excels mid-range on in on offense. He's 6'6", and outstanding athlete, and quality defender. So just off that, if you can get him for $5 million per or so, I think he's worth it. Then when you consider that coming out of Arkansas in 2006, this guy was sort of, well, sort of Evan Turnerish. He was the Razorbacks' primary ball handler/decision-maker/scorer/slasher. He went to Utah, where if you're not part of the PG/PF pick-and-roll duo, your job is to defend and act as option c, d, or e on offense. He accepted his role and was a high-level contributor until he was traded to Memphis in a cap trade (immediately triggering some "what-a-dumb-trade-what-are-we-doing?" comments from Deron Williams). He's an RFA, but Memphis has Rudy Gay to consider and they've said they're matching Gay within reason, so Brewer might be available to be had. For the Wolves, who need a big, versatile 2 guard to run their preferred offense, I think he's a decent alternative.
And since I'm in a giving mood (and since it's looking more and more likely) I'll even go against my personal wishes and let the Wolves sign Darko for a LITTLE two year deal.
Wolves run out
Sessions/Flynn
R. Brewer/Ellington
Henry/C. Brewer
Love/Al/Al/Love
Darko/Seraphin
Beyond recouping that Jaric pick (which will be in the lottery, which they'll need, and which all us of are convinced will be #1 overall if the Wolves don't hold it), this season will then be dedicated to:
1) Getting some wings that could actually beat an expansion team achieving better roster balance
2) Actually getting some players that could utilize some triangle looks
3) Getting the roster more Rubio Ready (and I'm not even convinced Rubio is a franchise talent and think he might be more valuable as trade bait, but we Wolves fans take hope where we can)
4) Increasing Al's trade value by giving him a (let's hope) healthier year
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Kahn would get fired for the trade...
it would be like saying all along he past year we will be in playoffs in 2 or 3 years and then makes a trade that indicates he no longer believes we will.
The only exception would be if he was really low on Cousins and decided that someone at the nine would be more useful that Wesley Johnson at #4
I would not do that trade
We worry way too much about that Clipper pick. It will be what it will be, but its two years down the road; you can’t make a trade because of a draft pick two years down the road.
This trade actively makes the team worse for the next 2 years (giving up 5 spots in this draft plus the 23). You can’t do that.
We Are the Washington Generals
by Eric in Madison on May 21, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions
Way too much, way too soon
I think the 16 alone, or the drop from 4 to 9 alone should be enough to cancel the future pick.
The switch of 4 and 9 maybe. Definitly not the 16th alone. If it were reversed and the Wolves had the Clippers unprotected pick in 2 years in their pocket, a team with a horrible track record in team-building, decision-making, cursed with bad luck, and seemingly unable to get out of their own way, no way do I give that away for a mid-first scratch ticket.
I loathe this Trade
But I don’t want to trade back under any circumstance. Take whichever one of the Top 4 falls or trade up and get Turner.
+1
The unprotected Clipper pick is the only thing lighting a fire under them. Even with that, it’s clear by how long McHale was around that their pants are mighty thick.
I don’t want them to trade back, either. Wes Johnson feels like trading back.
Good point
They may decide to T-Wolf for one more season and foolishly hope to get lucky in the draft, but they will be all in a year from now to make sure the Clippers aren’t getting too good a pick.
Even if the Clippers get the 8th pick in 2 years from the Wolves, I’d rather take the best player possible now and hope the pick is outside the lottery in a couple years.
If we really want the 2012 pick back...
…all we probably have to do is sell number 23 this year for $3 million and send that check to Donald Sterling and I bet we’d get the 2012 pick back. All of these trade scenarios overlook the fact the Clippers MIGHT spend some money this off-season.
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