Wes Johnson workout interview
by Oceanary on Jun 15, 2010 10:36 PM CDT
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PrintBefore the interview though, I want to say this:
Drafting Wes Johnson wouldn't be my first choice (or just about anyone else's, it seems)....but it wouldn't be the end of the world.
We've gone over his weaknesses in pretty fine detail at this point, so I want to highlight what his strengths are:
He can shoot. And yes, he's very largely a catch-and-shoot player, but still...50% shooting and 41% from three is pretty damn good for a college kid. If we bring Rubio over and run Wes around off the ball like Ray Allen, that might not be so bad
He's physically impressive. 6'7" with a 7'1" wingspan and 32" leap. His wingspan is, in fact, larger than (among others) Al Horford, Drew Gooden, Spencer Hawes, Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James. I've scoured the DX database and the reality is there's really not many players in the league right now with that combination of size, length and athleticism. The closest I found were Josh Smith and Richard Jefferson (6'8" with a 7'0" wingspans and 32.5" verticals) So Johnson does have a lot of raw physical potential to work with. This also gives him great upside defensively, if his head can catch up to his body.
He does fill needs of ours. He can't create his own shot, true, but he can shoot, which is obviously something we had next to nothing of last year. He's still highly skilled for a player with his physical tools compared to most of the league, and he moves the ball well, even though he can't take it with him very far.
None of this means I'd take him over Cousins or Favors. But we should remind ourselves that Johnson is still a very good player...he would help us in a number of ways that figure to translate into several more wins.
If we're really set on Johnson, I say take Cousins and use him as leverage with whatever team takes Wes. We could get some very lucrative offers from the Kings, Warriors or Pistons....if we take Cousins and trade him to, say, the Warriors for Johnson and Anthony Randolph? That wouldn't be so bad I think.
http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/draft_central_2010.html
Jonah Ballow: Welcome to Timberwolves.com, I'm Jonah Ballow here with an exclusive interview with Wes Johnson, forward from Syracuse. Let's first talk about your college experience, you took a year off and then transferred to Syracuse. How important was that season when you made the move from Iowa State to Syracuse?
Wes Johnson: The year I sat out, I think it was really important, I think it helped me with my mindset more than anything and made me more prepared going into the season really sitting out learning the offense, learning the group of guys and developing my chemistry in practice, which carried over to the season I had last year.
 Wes Johnson with mediaDavid Kahn Jonny Flynn |
Jonah Ballow: What was the biggest difference? You put up some big numbers at Syracuse, you were the go-to scorer on that squad, what was the biggest difference when you made that leap into the Big East?
Wes Johnson: Really just the physicality of it, it is really night in and night out and you can't take nights off. I just think really with the team leaning on me a lot and playing with a great group of guys and I could play off them so really team chemistry was a big role in it.
Jonah Ballow: Now how does it feel to be a top lottery pick? You are projected to be at maybe No. 4 with the Minnesota Timberwolves, but definitely in the top five. What is it like for you to be now considered with some of the top elite prospects in the draft?
Wes Johnson: It is definitely a blessing and a honor just to be amongst those guys and having the opportunity to be drafted where I'm drafted is a dream. It has been a fun experience up to this point, just coming in working out in front of this organization that I think is a great organization, especially with Jonny [Flynn] being here with great friendship and other than that it has been an honor and a blessing.
Jonah Ballow: Let's talk about that a little bit, Jonny Flynn, I mean I was talking to him earlier and he is ready for you to join him and make some Syracuse magic here in the Midwest. What would it be like to run alongside Jonny Flynn and the rest of these Timberwolves if you were selected at No. 4?
Wes Johnson: Speechless, especially playing with him and the group of guys that they have with Kevin Love and Al [Jefferson], and all those guys especially Corey Brewer, playing alongside him would definitely be a highlight film with both of us on the wings, but really it speaks volume if I could come here.
Jonah Ballow: Let's talk about your strengths a little bit, we know you are a big physical guy who can play multiple positions, what are you going to bring to an NBA team next season?
Wes Johnson: I will bring my versatility, playing inside and out could really help any team I could be drafted by but really just come to the organization and do what the team and the coaches tell me to do and then play with my strengths and have a great impact.
Jonah Ballow: What do you think you need to improve on not only in the next couple of weeks but next year in your rookie season?
Wes Johnson: Really just conditioning because 82 games and physical play will be my main focus. Anyone coming in to the draft sees that 82 games is no joke, so that's going to be the main difficulty along with the physicality of it.
Jonah Ballow: You were in a solo workout with the team here, a lot of eyes with the GM, the owner, Jonny Flynn on the sidelines, how was that process for you and how do you think you did for the Timberwolves?
Wes Johnson: Honestly I think okay, I did well, but I am my worst critic so I don't think I did as well as I wanted to, but other than that they said I had a solid workout but it was fun, it's is a little different playing in front of 30-40,000, and then you are the only person here playing in front of 50 people it was kind of nerve-racking, but it was fun.
Jonah Ballow: It is crazy to think, we are a little over a week away from draft night, what are your feelings and anticipation level leading up to June 24th?
Wes Johnson: Nerve-racking. Until that day, on the 24th until my name is called then I will have a sigh of relief, but until that day it will be nerve-racking. It is fun and the process is only a once in a lifetime opportunity, so it has been very exciting.
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I'm posting the post-Johnson workout interviews with Kahn and Flynn too, since they both just got put up on the youtube site
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Silver Lining...
If the Wolves draft Johnson, they won’t sign Rudy Gay for 5 years, $70 million? Right?
Sigh Johnson’s not an awful prospect as a run-and-jump role player at small forward. Good finisher/rebounder/shooter. He’s old, but he was legit as a freshman at ISU, so it’s not exactly a Randy Foye situation.
I just can’t stand the thought they draft him at #4 and that’s it. That just seems like overly poor value/draft management. They got to do something else. Acquire pick #3 (NJ wanted Al just last offseason), move down….something.
Moving down would be pretty good I think
Like I wrote above, Cousins is highly coveted by the Kings, Warriors and Pistons. I’d love to strike a deal with Golden State that gets us Johnson and Anthony Randolph
That would be more like it (so long as Love stays). I’d love to see them somehow get #3 without giving up #4. Not sure how they could do that, but I’d take Devin Harris’ long contract (who had an awful year but was good previously and is still young) to do so. Didn’t Avery Johnson treat Harris like garbage in Dallas?
They need some star potential. We didn’t endure the worst season in franchise history to walk out of the draft with a guy with a third-wheel ceiling.
I think that's a good option at this point
Wes and Randolph would be a nice haul. I’m tempted to say I’d prefer that over Cousins. As long as we don’t have to give up Love.
Wes Johnson/Anthony Randolph>DeMarcus Cousins by a mile.
by AnotherDraftPickBitesTheDust on Jun 16, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions
To each his own.
I prefer quality over quantity and though both Randolph and Johnson are quality players, they’re don’t have the top end upside of Cousins IMO. Would you take Lamar Odom and Thad Young over Brook Lopez? I’d prefer Lopez in that scenario to lock down the toughest position to fill in the NBA. I’m a shoot for the stars kind of guy though given how far we’ve got to go.
WES IS THE SAME AGE AS RUDY GAY
and who’s better? Exactly. Kahn dont be cheap! Spend the money..a short contract with Rudy Gay is best! Draft Cousins! Make a trade with Philly to get Evan Turner. That should be your goal this summer and not trying to market future potential to everyone. Look at how many people went to games last year we are sick of hearing about the future.
Gay
won’t sign a contract for fewer than 5-6 years because after the new CBA he’ll be out a ton of money. That is, a 3 year contract now + a 3 year deal under the new CBA is most likely < a 5-6 year deal signed now, and potentially by a large margin ($10 million or more overall).
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
by biggity2bit on Jun 17, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Well if they dont take him at 4 Kings will take him at five
So you really cant expect to trade down and get him. We have to take him at four, and I hope we do.
You do realize that we have no say over who the Twolves draft, don't you?
What’s the point of pretending you’re a fan and saying you want us to draft Johnson?
"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"
by Steven Ellingson on Jun 24, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a stretch 3
He will draw the defense away from the paint like no one else on the roster. There are several teams, including the Wolves, who are woefully in need of a stretch 3.
Who then starts at 2, Brewer, I pray to god no.
by AnotherDraftPickBitesTheDust on Jun 16, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
Gomes was a decent 3-point shooter and a very, very good 2-point jump shooter. I actually think Wes will give us a Wayne Ellington like rookie year in terms of his shooting, meaning that he will be good when left wide open, but will struggle with pull-ups and challenged shots. I also think he will struggle finishing around the rim in traffic since he lacks the bulk to absorb contact and maintain his balance. Where he will vastly exceed Gomes is in his ability to make plays over the top of the defense and on the fast break.
by Rascal Flatts on Jun 16, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree on the finishing around the rim part
Dude has springs, fits into spaces, and is stronger than most think. He has very good strength. He is an older rook.
The Future: Rubio, X Henry (from Al trade), P George (16 & 23 trade), Favors, Darko
Understood
But Corey Brewer has springs and also has a very strong, wiry frame, yet we see how difficult of a time he has around the basket. I’m not talking about straight-line dunks and finishes, which I know Wes will be terrific at. It’s more like having the heft to get hit and jostled around the bucket while maintaining good body control. I guess a guy like Josh Childress is Exhibit A in terms of a skinnier guy that is a terrific finisher in traffic whilst still being on the lighter side. But that seems more like the exception than the rule.
by Rascal Flatts on Jun 16, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Hence
the appeal of Paul George.
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
by biggity2bit on Jun 17, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It's hard to watch that interview...
and not think Wes will be a TWolf. The question, in my mind, is whether we trade assets other than #4 for Turner or Favors.
If we can pull off a trade string that gets us Johnson and Favors...
….we’ll be one hell of a team by 2011. A core trio of Johnson, Favors and Rubio has awesome potential on both ends of the court
Latest half-baked idea...
that I just asked PoorDick for an opinion on in an earlier thread:
Who says no:
New Jersey gets:
Ricky Rubio
#16
Minnesota gets:
Evan Turner (if he falls to #3)
—I bet this deal would give Avery Johnson pause. I bet it would give Mikhail Prokhorov a chubby.
I'm over here now.
I think Kahn says “no.”
I’m not even sure it’s the right answer, or what’s Spanish for “magic beans,” but “Jack” Kahn’s got ‘em, and he’s not giving them up.
Well put.
And you’re probably right — I can just envision some sweaty-palmed Kahn slamming down the phone every time Russian Cuban turns down Love, Brewer and 16 for 3, and he finally makes the call at the last minute and sends away the prized Euro that he knows Prokhorov really covets.
Should be an intense draft night.
Tough one...
and I actually think New Jersey might. Glen Taylor must have a LITTLE bit of a voice in these things (even if just coffee talk on Saturday Morning, or something)… and he would have to prefer the Big Ten star, RIGHT NOW, than Waiting for Rubio (capitalized because I expect that title, or something similar, for the independent film produced by some Canis Hoopus poster to describe our 24-36-(never-ending?) trials and tribulations of waiting for this bastard…) for at least another year.
I think Prok would love to have Ricky Rubio and who knows what sort of Russian Mafia connections he has that might just get him out of that Euro contract in, say, less than twelve months. But if those connections fail, I think his head coach would way rather have a hard-nosed player like Turner, who can help right away and play his half-court style as well as any rookie in this class. Turner + Lopez could develop rapidly, ala Roy-Aldridge in Portland.
If it happens,
there would be a tinge of regret over losing Rubio. However, I don’t think it occurs unless Fegan tells Kahn, “David, Ricky’s not coming to Minnesota. Take what you can get and send him to Brooklyn.”
I think you’re right that Kahn would exhaust ever other possible trade first, but I’d probably pull the trigger on a Rubio/Turner trade.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Jun 16, 2010 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Only way I'd do it is like this
Rubio and Pek for #3 and Devin Harris
Or Rubio and #23 for #3 and Devin Harris
Or Rubio and Sessions/Flynn for #3 and Devin harris
And ya, he interviews incredibly well
Granted we’re all very skeptical about that because of what happened with Flynn last year, but let’s not take that away from Wes. Whether or not you want him on the team, the kid has charisma, and that does matter in….well, life
If he does turn into a star, he’s got the perfect personality to market the team through….we haven’t had a guy like that since KG was traded
Wes Johnson at #4 makes sense
Wes Johnson brings defensive potential due to elite length and athleticism for his position, outside shooting, transition skills, and efficiency. All of these skills and traits are needs for the Wolves and SF is the Wolves most glaring position of need. I get that getting an efficient high usage player like Cousins and Turner is more desirable because the Wolves current ball dominant players in Flynn-Brewer-Jefferson are extremely inefficent, but that doesn’t mean Johnson’s skills aren’t needed. This team won 15 games and isn’t going to solve all its problems with the #4 pick in the draft. Johnson’s skillset is perfect for a transition offense with a shot creating point guard and he has the length and athleticism to never be a defensive matchup problem at SF. I have no problems with taking Johnson at #4. He’s a cheap 5 year starter with his peak performance age years on rookie scale wages.
"He’s a cheap 5 year starter with his peak performance age years on rookie scale wages"
How I wish that this would be an unbelievable metric on which to judge a pick where future All Stars can be chosen. But being a Wolves fan since ’89, I know this is part of the consideration.
A handful of guys from every draft class become 5 year starters. If we draft Wes Johnson, and he starts at SF for the next 5 years, I think we can undoubtedly call our pick at #4, a pick where future All Stars can be chosen, a resounding success.
WES JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!
I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE WES IN A T-Wolves UNI playing with FLYNN!!!!
IF THEY DRAFT WES, I WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO FORK UP THE CASH FOR SEASON TICKETS!!!
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but this is considered spam now isn’t it?
Anyone care to see what MarcusC really thinks of Cousins?
Buckeyes are red, Wildcats are blue,
I wanted Evan Turner, But DeMarcus Cousins will do.
some people
are just snakes.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Jun 21, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Ehhh . . .
I don’t mind the guy, and I could see Oceanary’s idea of a swap of Cousins for Johnson and Randolph as a nice consolation prize.
But this is one of the highest picks in the team’s two-decade history. This is what all the tanking was worth? Really?
Free agency’s out. Trades require assets, players, or picks to give back. And both of these methods of improvement require competing against other teams who may have more to offer than the Wolves, and who have more money and front office experience.
That leaves the draft—and more specifically, the lottery. And if nothing changes and they draft Johnson and role players at 16 and 23, did they even improve over last year? Is Johnson really a wild improvement over Corey Brewer? Does anybody think he has the potential to be a star? Will kids in the Twin Cities and Duluth and Mankato rush out to the local Target store to get themselves a “Johnson” jersey the minute this guy steps on the court?
And I’ve seen him referred to as a “kid” several times over the past few days. He’s older than Flynn, Love, and WEllington (and 3 1/2 years older than Rubio). He’s barely a year younger than Oly, Brewer, Sessions, Darko, and Jawai. Hell, he’s only 2 1/2 years younger than Al, who spent most of last season shuffling around the court like Tree Rollins looking for his AARP card. He may be good. He may be nice. But he is not a “kid” by NBA standards.
Keep this in mind as you whip yourself into a frenzy over a guy no one had heard of 8 months ago: This is it for the Wolves. They’re not signing any big time free agent, they’re not trading for an All Star, and they’re hopefully not getting another chance at a pick this high for a long time.
I hope Kahn knows what he’s doing.
.
You lost me
I started reading this section
Free agency’s out. Trades require assets, players, or picks to give back. And both of these methods of improvement require competing against other teams who may have more to offer than the Wolves, and who have more money and front office experience.
That leaves the draft—and more specifically, the lottery.
Here I was thinking you were going to tell me how drafting a guy like Cousins is a mistake because then we would be depending on Free Agency and Trades to find starters at both the wing positions, and would have 5 major assets locked in to two frontcourt positions, but instead, you tell me that the team that can’t rely on free agency or trades to shape their roster should ignore roster fit and take a redundant skill set. I’m confused.
I don't believe Al is part of the long-term future of this team
He either gets healthy and/or better and they trade him, or he doesn’t, and his contract becomes an albatross.
I think Cousins is a center. If they draft Johnson, I’m not sure how they can trade Love or Al without getting another “4” back in return—especially with Darko and Pek’s uncertain status. Sure, maybe they’ll move Love or Al for a younger athletic post player, but who might that be?
Choosing Wes at #4 is another Flynn-like reachdown for a nice guy at a “need” position. Nothing embarrassing, for sure, but the fact that he’s a former Orangeman as well is a sad bit of irony.
And in my scenario of trading for Johnson and Randolph...
….we still have the problem of not having a center
Your proposal, though, is the
first one involving Johnson that makes some sense, and improves the team. If it comes to fruition (and I kind of hope it does, damn you all to hell), Love or Al goes to make room for Randolph. Darko gets his payday, and the Solomon Alabi Experiment begins with pick #23.
Maybe we can push it too
I’d love to pry Azubuike or Anthony Morrow from them while we’re at it. They’re going to have new ownership soon, which historically has meant anyone and everyone is up for grabs if the price is right
larry ellison is richer than god you silly boy
the warriors will not be giving anyone away with billions to burn. find another team to fleece. try sacramento, they aren’t very bright over there.
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by StinkyFingers on Jun 16, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Choosing Wes at #4 is another Flynn-like reachdown for a nice guy at a "need" position.
I think you’re letting the orange jerseys cloud your judgment. Jonny Flynn was a late lottery-mid first rounder until he flashed that smile up to #6. Wes has been Top 5 and at times a Top 3 pick all season long. I am not a fan of a reach down either…think of it more as a reach around and it may be more pleasing.
Plus, I think the talent gap
between Cousins and a post player available at 16 or 23 is much larger than the talent gap between Johnson and a wing available at 16 or 23.
We’ll see . . .
A point well made (as usual)
Cousins and one of Anderson/James/George/Hayward
or
Johnson and one of Udoh/Alabi/Whiteside.
Wes seems like a nice guy and a hard worker, but it seems like a percentage pick (moderate floor, moderate ceiling).
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Completely agree…although besides Anderson, most of the solid wings may be gone so it may require packaging 16, 23 and/or Pek to get into top 8-12 for shot at Henry or George.
Cousins + Henry/George > Johnson + Whiteside/Udoh
by TWolvesFanInLA on Jun 16, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I have the same feelings
Johnson’s not the star we want or need, so it does feel defeating to think we went through all this for basically a high end role player with an outside chance of being a star.
The main thing for me is, I understand why the team wouldn’t want Cousins. I don’t agree with it necessarily, but I do get it. (Just like I got and disagreed with why they didn’t want OJ Mayo). But if we do lock into Wes, we need to take Cousins anyway. He’s an incredibly coveted player….there are a few teams below us that will practically sell the farm to get him. So I say talk to them, find out which one will give us the best deal, and try to make an agreement.
"there are a few teams below us that will...sell the farm to get him."
You could very well be right on this, but right now ESPN and Draft Express have Greg Monroe going 5th. If that’s how it plays out, it’ll make me believe that we got little-to-nothing for good offers to trade down and we simply liked Wes Johnson more, with all factors considered (size, athleticism, skills, positional fit, attitude, upside, bust potential…everything).
Kings are the least interesting trade partner though
Not as much to offer as Golden State or Detroit. Although the Monroe projection is based on opinion more than anything I think. Petrie is a guy who plays it safe, yeah, but at the same time, his definition of “safe” is pretty radical by league standards. He’s been known to make some “questionable” decisions based on something he knows that everyone else apparently misses. Reports say he was extremely impressed by Cousins after the workout he had in Sacramento
Sure...
but it isn’t really about what Sacramento can offer, if they are also passing on Cousins, despite these supposed “sell the farm” trade proposals. In these latest mocks, Minnesota takes Wes Johnson, then Sacramento takes Greg Monroe.
If other teams had big interest, why would Sacramento AND Minnesota pass them up?
This is a good point
and I think it’s the most likely way the Wolves end up with Cousins. Bad interview and chubby cheeks aside, Kahn picks him, and waits for the phone to ring. Somebody calls with a player and a pick, and he looks like a genius. If not, listen for Kahn to proclaim, “I actually think Flynn and Cousins can play in the backcourt together!”
Could be anything I guess
I’m pretty sure for us, it’s his behavior issues. My guess is it’s the same for the Kings. Or maybe Petrie is having another “I see something no one else does” moment like he did with Jason Thompson….I dunno
I know for sure the Warriors and Pistons are practically drooling over Cousins though, and they have the most to offer
Minnesota:
Paul George
Austin Daye
Next Year’s 1st Round Unprotected Pick
Detroit:
DeMarcus Cousins
Ramon Sessions
by AnotherDraftPickBitesTheDust on Jun 16, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Not a lot on Det I’d want, but If Kahn wants Johnson we need to draft Cousins and then exact a pound of flesh from Det or GSW.
I’d certainly do Cousins +23 for Johnson + Randolph
by TWolvesFanInLA on Jun 16, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Bah
if this is how it must be, I’m willing to give Wes Johnson a chance. some guys surprise you. you think you have them defined and they break away from that. I’m switzerland neutral on everyone right now. I didn’t get attached to Turner before the lottery. I’m not going to get attached to anyone before he’s in uniform.
We always seem to fall just short...
…whether it’s injuries or poor management or just plain bad luck (and right now this draft is bad luck in my book….) we always seem one step short
Though I’m not convinced they’ll take him outright, it’s definitely disappointing and shows a lack of creativity if he’s taken at 4 for this team. It’s like I told the season-ticket guy: I want this team to make smart moves and get good value with all of their picks. It worries me that Kahn might not have full authority and the whispers of Rob Moor calling the shots seem like an issue. I really don’t want this to become a Red McCombs situation because we can’t really dump the owner.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Jun 16, 2010 12:14 AM CDT reply actions
Posted Kahn and Flynn's interviews as well
Notice how Kahn is asked “hey, Wes said he’d like to be here, does that make you feel more confident about picking him?” and immediately says “No, it’s our decision not his….it’s way too early to project any of this”
Oh, and he also alludes to...
….a possible (probable?) Al and/or Love trade when talking about Cousins
And you can sense the regret in passing on Curry.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Jun 16, 2010 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I posted something about this on the Timberwolves twitter and they banned me.
by AnotherDraftPickBitesTheDust on Jun 16, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Just listening to the Kahn interview
I’m not all the way through, but the part where he says “Liked him… he’s got a beautiful stroke” is amazing on so many non-bb levels.
Rec'd
Johnson/Randolph for Cousins would be a bit too much on GS’s end ( http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1018250&start=15 – for reference on what I think the “values” are, a good thread started by shrink on RealGM). But if that is what was offered I’d do that deal and live with not getting back the best talent in the trade.
Have to say, those are some good interviews. Beats the hell out of watching a Favors interview – I love him as a prospect, but man… someone get him a PR coach.
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