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What Every NBA Fan Needs to Know About Ricky Rubio (Plus #15 on the Community Draft Board)

With the lotto in the rear view mirror and the draft on the horizon, I figured it would be a good time to put out a little primer about the Wolves and Ricky Rubio so that excited Knicks fans have a place to go when the Daily News tells them that Donnie Walsh is really good friends with David Kahn...and you know what that means.  

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1- The Rubio Road to the NBA 100%, without-a-doubt goes through the Timberwolves. The Wolves own Rubio’s NBA rights and barring him completely stepping away from professional basketball for an entire year (following a 3 year period after the draft), he is Timberwolves property.


2- Rubio’s buyout from Barcalona is reported to be $1.4 million following the 2010-11 season. This is hardly unmanageable and even if it were, it is meaningless, as the NBA’s CBA clearly states that NBA franchises can only contribute $500,000 to the buyout of a foreign player. The cost associated for a buyout of any foreign player (not just Rubio) is $500k. No more, no less. This is not the case for EuroLeague teams like Barcelona, who footed the entire buyout bill for Rubio and his family during his latest transition.


3- Rubio’s buyout from Joventut was originally in the neighborhood of $8 million and was eventually lowered to $5 million. Were Rubio to have come to the Wolves, and were the Wolves able to have achieved the same $5 mil buyout, Rubio himself would have been on the hook for the additional $4.5 mil. This was simply cost prohibitive to Rubio (who was making only a couple hundred thousand Euros at the time) to come to the Wolves with the slotted 5th pick NBA rookie salary. Here is what we wrote at the time about the situation:

At first glance, the NBA’s rookie salary scale for the 5th pick seems somewhat reasonable: roughly $15.2 million over 4 years. However, this does not take into account three key items that turn $15 large into a number that doesn’t hold up well against the reported buyout number of $5.28 million. First, $8.42 million of the $15.2 million rookie scale is tied up in two years of player options. A good friend of mine works as an actuary for Mutual of Omaha and he finds it far-fetched that any loan guarantee would be written while taking into account a non-guaranteed payment option. In other words, Rubio is really only guaranteed about $6.78 million in pre-tax earnings over the course of two seasons. Secondly, at no point in any of the Rubio reporting have we ever learned anything about the payment structure of the buyout. Would it be a lump sum? Would it be over 2 years? Would it be over the length of the full 4-year rookie scale? Again, my actuary friend finds it implausible that this debt would be paid on anything other than a lump sum or a two year scale. Even if Rubio were able to secure an insurance policy that extends beyond his guaranteed years, he would face a high premium that may make it an unattractive option vis-a-vis the Barcelona contract. Third, Rubio would face a 35% federal income tax combined with state taxes in Minnesota and every state he plays in. To the best of my knowledge, his overall tax burden would be 42.85%. In other words, his pre-duty/pre-agent fee take home pay for the first two years of his rookie contract is roughly $3.87 mil. That’s $1.4 million in the hole if you add in the reported buyout. If he were able to secure a four year repayment plan, his post-tax take home pay would be roughly $8.69 million; $3.41 mil over the buyout over 4 years and $825k/year pre-agent/duty pay. The bottom line here is that it’s pretty hard to look at the non-endorsement money on the table in the NBA and have it compare favorably to what Rubio will earn in Europe over the next two years. At the end of the day, the Wolves could only contribute $500k while Barcelona ponied up over $5 million. Rubio likely chose the far safer, and more economically sound, option.

In other words, had Rubio come to the Wolves, he would have been paying to play in the NBA for the better part of his rookie contract. Paying to play for any team in the lotto, not just the 15-win Wolves, was not an attractive immediate option in 2009.  


4- David Kahn and the Wolves made Ricky Rubio a ton of money. This is the point that most often gets overlooked in the Rubio discussion. By becoming a 3rd party in the Rubio sweepstakes, the Wolves effectively provided the Rubios the leverage that lowered the insanely high Joventut buyout, allowed a European League team to pick up the tab (which, as we previously mentioned, was done in whole by Barcelona), allowed Rubio to get a raise, and, most importantly, lowered his future buyout amount to a number that is completely manageable under NBA rookie salary guidelines (after the $500k Wolves buyout, Rubio is only on the hook for $900,000). He also won a championship.  The kicker here is that if Rubio comes to the NBA after 3 years (and not the 2 that some fans expect, and is the first year of a possible buyout), the Wolves do not have to pay him according to the NBA rookie salary scale. They can give him an even bigger deal…at the age of 22. This angle may really come into play if there is a lockout.  If Rubio had gone in the first 3 picks, he may have been able to afford the jump to the NBA. When he slid, the Wolves provided him and his family with the best possible landing spot: on a team that had an additional pick to use on a point guard to bridge the gap and who could afford to wait until a lowered buyout and, possibly, a situation where Rubio could make more than what he could under the NBA’s rookie salary scale. Imagine if the Knicks got him with the 7th pick. What would the New York media do if Rubio couldn’t afford to come over to a slotted 7th pick rookie salary? How much more leverage would the Rubio’s have lost with the buyout with Joventut if it wasn’t a closer decision to head to the NBA like the Wolves provided with the 5th pick? I cannot say it enough: The Wolves (and David Kahn) allowed the Rubios to make a lot more money and they significantly improved his financial outlook.


Ricky Rubio unexpectedly landed in the Wolves’ lap and they’re not going to give him up for anything less than a serious haul. The Wolves have allowed Rubio to improve his financial (and professional playing) situation beyond what any other team in the league could have done short of going #1 to the Clippers. At the end of the day, by going #5 to the Wolves, Rubio was able to have his buyout taken care of in full by a superior team, get a raise, continue to develop on the best team in Europe, and eventually come to the NBA at or around the age of 22 without having to worry about going in the hole for his buyout.  If his agent throws a hissy fit about his client not wanting to play in Minny in 1, 2, or 3 years, all Kahn has to do is smile and say "thank you very much, we can't wait until he wants to."  By showing patience now, the Wolves have significantly increased their chances of appearing credible if they need to call a bluff down the line. 

 

Plus, for those of you who haven't been paying a lot of attention to the Wolves and how they appear to be being put together, David Kahn is all-in on the kid.  They are looking to build a running team with long athletes who can get out in transition and catch all of those ally-oops.  They are looking for players who can hit open 3s from the corner.  They are looking for guys who can be dominant pick-and-roll players.  Does it surprise you that recent rumors would leave the team with a 2011 lineup of something like Rubio, Rudy Fernandez, Rudy Gay, Anthony Randloph, and Derrick Favors?  They are all in on Rubio, they have helped him and his family out, and they are not letting him go for anything other than a MAJOR haul. 

 

Here's where we stand with the Community Draft Board:

 

  1. John Wall (54%)
  2. Evan Turner (81%)
  3. Derrick Favors (50.8%) 
  4. DeMarcus Cousins (64.3%) 
  5. Wes Johnson (85.9%) 
  6. Al Faroq Aminu (38%) 
  7. Greg Monroe (30.4%) 
  8. Paul George (37.1%) 
  9. Xavier Henry (61.7%) 
  10. Cole Aldrich (35.1%) 
  11. Gordon Hayward (28%)
  12. Luke Babbitt (33.6%)
  13. Ed Davis (26.9%
  14. Hassan Whiteside (29.4%)
Where do we go next? 
Poll
Who should be the 15th player on the Wolves' draft board?
Ekpe Udoh
173 votes
Avery Bradley
31 votes
Larry Sanders
12 votes
Eric Bledsoe
16 votes
James Anderson
127 votes
Kevin Seraphin
14 votes
Elliot Williams
2 votes
Solomon Alabi
14 votes
Damien James
15 votes
Dominique Jones
7 votes

411 votes | Poll has closed

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Excellent summation

Will not, however, keep the NY media from continuing to insist that NY deserves Rubio, and that he will, therefore, land there… alongside Lebron, of course.

by revcp on Jun 17, 2010 7:17 AM CDT reply actions  

You forgot Bosh too...

I’m sure NY will be glad to let us have Wilson Chandler in the deal (you know if we kick in a little more because Rubio is such an unknown unproven NBA player and Chandler already plays in the NBA and is poised for a breakout year…must be great to be a Knick fan!)

by Wolf21 on Jun 17, 2010 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have to say

A Flynn/Fernandez/Gay/Randolph/Favors team (or even with Sessions) would be a hell of a lot of fun to watch. I don’t know if it would win much, but it would be entertaining.

by McCleak on Jun 17, 2010 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

It isn't just Knickerbocker fans.

Wolves fans who didn’t pore over the buyout process last summer – who glanced, felt rejected when Rubio decided not to swallow that amount of money, and who therefore is resentful – could benefit from this read. Nice job summing it up without grinding the details too much.

(When it comes to the Knick fans, I’m pretty sympathetic. Their franchise has been lying fallow since Isiah was ushered out, and they need something to hope on. Wolves fans who suggest dealing him away for dimes on the dollar, though, should demonstrate to those New York fans just how desolate Minnesota’s been too…. Give us a little sympathy back.)

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by feral on Jun 17, 2010 8:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Even if he were picked #1

in the draft wouldn’t his buyout still have been too much for any NBA team? If that’s the case than he entered the draft knowing that he was just using whatever team drafted him for leverage. I see all this skepticism as a distrust of Rubio himself (or at least the people making his decisions). All of this plus what if he turns out to be the next Jason Williams – A flash in the pan and then a drifter going from team to team. The Timberwolves made a mistake drafting him. They should have gone Curry/Flynn.

by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Jun 17, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

At 1 or 2 he would have made significantly more under the rookie scale.

The whole “What if he doesn’t pan out?” thing is true of any rookie, including Curry.

I get the anxiety, but the guy was a steal on draft night wait or no, and his value isn’t diminishing over time. There’s no need to panic and assume the worst.

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by feral on Jun 17, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

One point of clarification

NBA teams are allowed to pay more than $500K to release the rights of foreign players. This is something I learned recently but seems to be almost a universal misconception. The amount paid to release a player’s rights is treated as a signing bonus, therefore payments in excess of $500K are allowed but anything over that $500K threshold is applied to the team’s salary cap.

Read part 64 of Larry Coon’s Salary Cap FAQ if you want to find confirmation.

by Bethke on Jun 17, 2010 8:50 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

then I might fully expect Taylor to pony up

and just pay the whole buyout next summer. It will only improve his business to have Rubio over here.

No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.

by TheEvilProfessor on Jun 17, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are there signing bonuses on Rookie Scale contracts?

The question I’d have on that, then, is if the allowed number of payment still restricted to the 20% bonus structure. I would imagine that it is treated as a pass through, to the player for the buyout.

by Krotz the Wall on Jun 17, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

I also assume that while it’s not universally true that you can’t contribute more than $500K towards a buy-out, it was true for the Wolves last year that we could only offer $500K since we were over the cap so didn’t have the cap space to offer anything else. I don’t know exactly how signing bonuses work though so I could be wrong.

by Bethke on Jun 17, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

It could have a nice tax benefit

If the Wolves pay the entire buyout to a team in Spain, I don’t think it would be taxed as salary, at least in the US. I would also assume that it would be a wash in Spain. While it would lower Rubio’s max salary, the tax savings could be about $500,000.????

by Rumblebee on Jun 17, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

danke

And poorly worded on my part. Thanks for the clarification.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 17, 2010 9:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Isn't that more or less a moot distinction on rookie deals, though?

Signing bonuses are limited to 20% of the total worth of the contract, and rookie deals’ total contractual amounts are still constrained by the CBA. This isn’t money in addition to the rookie scale. It’s a different way of accounting for that amount, so you can “front load” things.

Essentially the Wolves (or anyone else) could move a fifth of the money from the contract’s first two years up front. It wouldn’t change the total amount, it would just hit the buyout lump more directly. For cap purposes the bonus amount would still get spread out. And the Wolves couldn’t magically wave away the two-year limit on how they calculate that figure, any more than they could guarantee Ricky that they were going to pick up year three or four for that matter.

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by feral on Jun 17, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

You may be right

Would that mean, in Pek’s case for instance or in Rubio’s case if he waits 3 years from the time that we drafted him, that we could pay the full buy-out amounts since they would not be constrained by the rookie scale? Either way, I don’t believe that the Wolves would have been able to offer more than $500K towards Rubio’s buy-out last offseason. I was just offering a minor clarification on the rule, not necessarily on Rubio’s situation a year ago.

by Bethke on Jun 17, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

So

If we negotiate a new buyout # for this summer with FCB, then we could use our cap space to bring Ricky over? Holy crap, they need to pursue that aggressively. Offer barca 3-4 million to get him out of his deal and tell Ricky we’ll pay it all as a gesture of good will (but maybe hint that the offer drops back to 500k if he waits until next year….).

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by Xand1 on Jun 17, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or

if it just front-loads a portion of his rookie deal instead of adding on top of it, then scratch that :(

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by Xand1 on Jun 17, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t know exactly how it works. Where’s shrink when you need him?

by Bethke on Jun 17, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Planning world domination

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by Casperkid23 on Jun 17, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's pretty clear

From the direction it seems the franchise is going, in terms of players, style of play, rumored players of interest, that the Wolves clearly have Rubio’s name circled as the linchpin of Wolves’ future. It would take a ridiculous offer to pry him out at this moment.

by Krotz the Wall on Jun 17, 2010 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

You know the drill, don't you?

If New Yorkers don’t get their thirst for Rubio quenched, they will try to diminish him. They love you if you follow their direction but love turns to hate if you don’t.

Locally, Ricky will be the media darling. But you can count on the KG-like calls for Ricky to leave the Wolves if he performs well.

by Flagrant on Jun 17, 2010 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe

but maybe Wes and Jonny’s love of the TC will keep him here!

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by biggity2bit on Jun 17, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hope so...

One of the more unseemly times in recent history was when folks like Charles Barkley (and other national media advocates) actively lobbied for KG to get traded away from the Wolves while at the same time the Wolves made KG the face of the franchise.

by Flagrant on Jun 17, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

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