3rd Pick/Martel Webster Open Thread
by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 24, 2010 8:08 PM CDT
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PrintThe Wolves finally take the BPA and they trade him away. Keep on keepin' on Mr. Kahn. First you gave Sacramento another big bruiser, now you gave a 3 point crazy team one of the best shooters in the draft. Well done sir, well done.
BTW: We're working on confirmation of the Webster rumor. Nothing official yet. Confirmed.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jun 24, 2010 8:10 PM CDT reply actions
I am curious how they justify this one. Babbitt would have been a great shooter off the bench and Webster has done jack in his career.
Webster is older, paid more, with less upside. This cuts into our cap.
It's as if Kahn is systematically attempting to avoid any upside at all.
We had three first-round picks. We have used them on what amounts to replacement-level talent.
As a measure of how inept that move is, Sludge and Lake were ecstatic about it on the radio. Which can only be an awful, awful sign.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
Terrible move by a terrible GM for a terrible team.
Ugh.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 24, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Because Babbit Can't Guard
When did Babbit become some great catch? Babbit is slow footed and will not be able to guard anyone in the league, where as Webster plays pretty good defense. He rebounds well, and has proven he can score in the NBA. Personally I like the move. Still young, can run the floor, and can score from inside and out.
by DCBengalFan on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Marko Jaric could defend some.
Marko Jaric’s aggregate stat numbers are generally better than Webster’s, for their respective NBA careers.
Jonny Flynn as a rookie shot better than Webster for his career.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
seriously
have we really traded babbit for webster
Is Kahn gonna be the Blazers new GM. Holy cow is that a bad trade. Theirs gotta be something else coming.
by jama on Jun 24, 2010 8:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Has to be more...
If the Webster trade is on, it must involve #22 or it would have gone public by now…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
And if there's not...
Kahn just got fleeced by a guy that got fired today…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Just wait.
Whiteside is still on the board. And Portland will probably take Anderson @ 22.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
If we keep Babbit...
I’ll be ok with this draft. If not, FIRE that STUPID MOTHER FUCKER KAHN!!!!!!!!!!! ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!
Where are the Kahn defenders tonight??
Man I was so happy with that Babbit pick. Could almost justify passing on Cousins. Just not to be, Kahn you win. I’m defeated. UNCLE
I hear we're giving up a 2nd rounder in 2014 and Cash Considerations for Sonny Weems! WOW!
by Son of Gerald Green on Jun 24, 2010 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
Welcome aboard
I just signed up for the fire Kahn club earlier tonight.
Come on in, take a seat, have a drink.
I thought before tonight...
…there was a chance that Kahn was crazy like a fox…now I know he’s just crazy.
I actually like Webster, fine with the Babbit trade I guess
Of course, I’d be more fine with it if Cousins was the pick at 4. This is just my hopeless optimism at work here.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
Have you looked at Webster's productivity over his 5 seasons?
He’s a year older than Wes Johnson, and if anything he’s proven that he can’t play.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
Portland's had a giant backlog at the swing position, the 2/3
I wouldn’t look at his “production” necessarily; I’d look at what he’s done when given the chance.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not judging it by his points per game, dude.
Take a look at any “advanced” stat. His career PER is 11.6, for example. The guy has not played well in the minutes he’s gotten. He’s got two years left at around $5 million each, so he’s taking up way more cap space than Babbitt would have too. If you wanted room under the cap, this trade sacrificed a lot of that for literally nothing that would justify that in terms of trade value.
This is a player Portland should be paying you to take off their hands.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
John Hollinger, go home.
You lost me at PER
What basic number convinces you?
His shooting percentage is lower, for his career, than Jonny Flynn’s lofty number last year as a rookie. Does that excite you?
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
As a Blazer fan, I am sorry to see Webster go
Martell was in a 3 way fight for minutes his first few years with the team. When he finally got the job, he was out for the season with injury. Last season he was fighting for minutes again but played well when called upon (something that can’t be said for Rudy). Martell did not regularly score a ton of points but our offense goes through Aldridge and Roy first then whomever is hot picks up the slack. Martell could go off for 25 one night then give you 5 the next but he always played solid D, he is fierce on the break, and accepted whatever minutes he earned with a lot of class.
I frankly can’t believe we traded our best guy off the bench at the 2/3 spot for a shooter that can’t do anything else and trade fodder.
Yeah, I know what you're saying. The points per game was a low blow though.
Holding out hope, I guess.
That said, Rudy Fernandez’s Win Shares/48 minutes this year? .101
Martell Webster’s? .105!!!! YES.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Draft Crawford/Anderson, sell pick for a quick couple mill.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 24, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is Kahn doing this to us.
I want to cry.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jun 24, 2010 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
When you have low expectations
And the team actually does worse than that is unfathomable. Kahn must be wanting to retire after next year.
by jama on Jun 24, 2010 8:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
This is really frustrating
Especially because I thought something similar would happen, and tried to be optimistic.
Seraphin @ 17
Likely to the Wizards for the Hinrich trade.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
There is no player in this draft I want anymore.
Worst draft ever.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jun 24, 2010 8:15 PM CDT reply actions
be careful
Ndi Ebbi hasn’t been called yet.
by nodnarb on Jun 24, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anderson is still around
But if we get him, we’ll trade him for Charlie Bell.
webster shoots worse than
brewer…
why
we don’t need bad shooters
that's a stretch
This year, at the age of 23, Webster had a TS% of 54 and an eFG% of 50 with 37% from the 3point line.
this year, at the age of 23, Brewer had a TS% of 50, eFG of 47 with 34% from the 3point line with considerably less attempts.
But I just that it was Babbit/Gomes for Webster….yeah, can’t defend this anymore.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Kahn
is a idiot. He must not like his job.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jun 24, 2010 8:17 PM CDT reply actions
why wouldnt it be rudy
he doesnt want to play for portland
As a Blazer Fan I entirely agree, why could it not have been Rudy
Rudy wanted more minutes and when he got them he choked. Webster is a much better defender, has NBA size, can take it to the rim as well as shoot the 3, and and accepted his role on the team.
Rudy sees the floor well and runs a good break. He shoots well as long as it isn’t in the clutch or in the playoffs. He gets bullied by defenders though with his slender build and disappears when you need him most.
He sells a lot of shirts to the ladies though.
boat load of offers for babitt
we take webster
This is terrible. Absolutely terrible.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 24, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Not only Babitt but GOMES TOO
FUCK YOU DAVID KAHN
by Bad News Wolves on Jun 24, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions
babitt and gomes for webster???
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions
Fire Kahn! Fire Kahn !
This has become a Joke. They finally make a good pick and trade him to a Division Rival for Martell Webster!!!
holy fuck
they used gomes for webster?
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com
He gave up Gomes also.
I am crying. Like actually crying
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jun 24, 2010 8:19 PM CDT reply actions
What compromising photos do the blazers have of glen Taylor?
Maroon and Gold Headquarters: The Daily Gopher
There has to be something else going on with that deal
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:19 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe this is all part of the Kahn plan
make a bunch of horrible picks and trades and then do one decent trade at the end of the night and our expectations will be so low, we’ll end on a high note and thank him
They've recanted
Gomes is needed for the salary matching.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Goodbye forever...
And go Phoenix Suns from now on!!!!
Rot in hell David Kahn!!!
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Worst fucking trade Kahn has made....
Giant fucking moron! Fire his ass immediately. He makes it hard to root for this team.
Computer automatically rebooted and can’t get back on adthe anymore .. It’s obvious the pc is trying to protect me from further harm… how sweet..
Official Kahn/Rambis band-wagon rider since 2009
Officially torched the bandwagon on draft night 2010 (barring a trade)
only misspelled it here, got it in my favs ;)
Official Kahn/Rambis band-wagon rider since 2009
Officially torched the bandwagon on draft night 2010 (barring a trade)
by Wim (Belgium) on Jun 24, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Kahn serious?
You could make the argument that both Luke Babbitt and Ryan Gomes are better players, and more valuable than Martell Webster.
Kahn's a Portland fan right? Lived there right?
Just sayin’
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
No chance...
Teh players we’d be trading would be a lot shittier.
Talking myself into DeMarcus Cousins since 5/18/10
can't stand it
i can’t follow this team anymore…….
Very very close
to the end of Wolves fandom. I’m going to wait until tomorrow morning, but this is unbelievable.
Babbit for a box of nails?
There has to be something way below the radar that will turn this into the Kahnman working magic beyond what we see now…
Please God, tell me this man is not the fool that this years drafgt is showing so far!
I'm sure the deal
Was in place before the pick.
I'm not sure
How All Wolves Blogs can’t call for Kahn’s head Tommorrow Morning.
SBNation:
A gifted shooter with a sweet natural stroke for a player his size. Long of limb, and an above-average defener. A solid athlete who shows some versatility.
We should have traded Babbitt for Rudy and Gomes for Beasley
by TWolvesFanInLA on Jun 24, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Like countless prospects before him,
he’s been lauded for looking as if he can hit shots.
It’s funny how people who have no patience or understanding for assessing how a player’s performance translates into results – too much trouble – suddenly become all misty when they look at someone’s elbow as he shoots. They can’t divide two numbers to get a percentage, apparently, but their eye for shooting mechanics is first rate. They think.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
So Wes Johnson
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jun 24, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Why – does it remind you of how mature Wes Johnson is, or something?
Webster has spent five years proving he can’t get it done.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
Agreed, Webster's better than he's getting credit for here
And agreed, he ain’t worth Babbit+Gomes.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
i just read that websters contract isn't guaranteed
is that true, or t-pups fans looking for the light at the end of the tsunami?
I’m done with this team, thanks Kahn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by AnotherDraftPickBitesTheDust on Jun 24, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions
Do the salaries make sense?
Webster $4.8
Gomes $4.1
Babbitt???
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah.
But now we need to trade him for a 5 instead of wing….what 5 is out there?
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I seem to remember there being an uber talented 5 available somewhere
Oh, right. In the draft. An hour ago.
They weren't going to pick up Gomes option
Saves team $3 million
tired of these money trades. It’s all okay for a while but I want to see some friggin talent … Already having second thoughts about the NBA Live Tour tickets I bought .. bleh.
Official Kahn/Rambis band-wagon rider since 2009
Officially torched the bandwagon on draft night 2010 (barring a trade)
by Wim (Belgium) on Jun 24, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Who was
the guy that Oceanary spotlighted in a fanpost a couple weeks ago? I can’t remember his name
I love Twins Baseball and Minnesota Vikings Football.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jun 24, 2010 8:23 PM CDT reply actions
Ahh Ok thanks
Chances he goes tonight?
I love Twins Baseball and Minnesota Vikings Football.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jun 24, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I think SnP isn't a fan of a Stephenson
But I am Gone right now, so maybe I’m wrong.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
ellington 39.5% from 3
how is this better with webster
by ChicagoViking on Jun 24, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
They could have drafted Anderson... SA just got him
and used their chip in Gomes on something else
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Thus underscoring how completely inept they are.
The KFAN show, which is listened to a little on the way home just now, is actively offensive to real fans. Their repeated attempts to justify deals like this one because “rubes” don’t recognize who Martell Webster is.
No, we know who he is. We know he’s not worth a trade of this kind AT ALL.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
they love webster...
…and think he needs to be extended. crazy talk. they just gave away the bpa on a rookie salary and their most movable trade asset for a guy who does exactly what babbitt does + millions of dollars.
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com
Well, a guy who's proven he's not very good at doing what Babbitt does, you mean.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
at the end of the day..
…this is cousins + babbitt vs. johnson + webster. i don’t like the wolves’ chances.
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com
hey is this a dream
did i fall asleep somwhere during the lottery picks…. please let this be a dream
WAKE UP. It's REAL
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Bill Simmons has been generally correct on Kahn
He’s a moron. All the defenders can say it together. Trust me, you’ll feel better
I hear we're giving up a 2nd rounder in 2014 and Cash Considerations for Sonny Weems! WOW!
by Son of Gerald Green on Jun 24, 2010 8:24 PM CDT reply actions
I can begin to rip Kahn
But Simmons is the a sign of the apocalypse. It’s in revelations, people.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Bledsoe being dealt to the Clippers.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Y'all should ease up on the drinking
Or make another run to the store…
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Jun 24, 2010 8:25 PM CDT reply actions
Gonna go with the latter. Down to my last 2 beers. Plenty of gin in the house though
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
by Victor Mature on Jun 24, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Just cracked the vodka
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Just cracked the gin.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Beer chaser
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Avery Bradley to Boston
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Webster is a quality defender
Unfortunately, to me it seems like his skill set is duplicated by Corey Brewer.
When you say "skill set" with Corey's name,
use the skeptical quotes.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
Webster aint a plus anything
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
by Victor Mature on Jun 24, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Goodbye Anderson.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 24, 2010 8:27 PM CDT reply actions
Exactly.
Between Oklahoma City and San Antonio, I have seen two vivid reminders in the limited time I’ve watched this of why the Wolves stink.
I’ve been a fan of this organization since its inception. Saw games in the dome. This may be my Willie Teal moment – that being the Thursday night game back in the day when the Vikings lost to Buffalo and I realized I didn’t want to feel that way any more. Haven’t given a rip about pro football since, and haven’t missed it.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
more crap
no anderson…. Need a shot blocker anyway
Now now, don't burn it.
Sell it to some kid who doesn’t know better. Money is better than fire most of the time.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 24, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, collect more assets.
And then give them up for Martell Webster.
by LoveTo on Jun 24, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Official Kahn/Rambis band-wagon rider since 2009
Officially torched the bandwagon on draft night 2010 (barring a trade)
by Wim (Belgium) on Jun 24, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Doubt we will if we are trading for Webster
How about Alabi
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jun 24, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I can just see Whiteside standing next to Wes Johnson tonight
You know it’s going to happen.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
San Antonio
Do they ever do anything you don’t like?
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:29 PM CDT reply actions
The Wolves aren't under the cap
Either this is going to happen after July 1, or there’s a player being sent back
Gomes has to be in it.
Portland aren’t going to take him after July 1 when his contract is guaranteed. We’re over the cap, we have to salary match.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Have faith...
C’mon… he’s working hard and drinking a lot of caffeine. Jesus Christ on a state fair stick, is this really happening. I’m done with this team…
What!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I don’t get this one… awful… pathetic… at his floor babbitt is as good as webster. Why The Face!?
Invent the Time Machine?
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on, we all know...
… that will end up backfiring in the long run.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 24, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I was wondering if it was part of the Babbit deal
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jun 24, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Take Whiteside
Why Not?? Not that anyone else cares.
watch blazers pick someone we want
f us three times
I dont like luke babbit at all!!!
BUT Anderson> Webster. Thats why i dont like the trade.
now I’m just hoping for Crawford
FAIL
FAIL, FAIL, FAIL. Babbitt = Baller. Webster = BUM. We’ve been Pritch-slapped. Again.
for the last time too since he got fired
and we need a good GM thanks Allen?
martel webster will also need an extension
congrats wolves, you just drafted a guy who plays the same position as webster and costs millions less and you traded him away for a guy close to his option year.
Forever splitting the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs
www.canishoopus.com
just went to the home page
best buy has an ad with a guy with a bag on his head, First thing that has made sense to me all night.
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:34 PM CDT reply actions
Just to make things worse...
#4-Johnson
#16-Babbit traded for shit
#23-Whiteside
trade Rubio to NY for Chandler
use the 2 second rounders on Euro’s who NO ONE has heard of (because Kahn is sooo smart)
start the count down for next years draft with the WORST record in the league this time.
Webster
5 seasons, 1 of which was lost to injury.
Career averages in 23.2 mins pg (via ESPN) – .407 FG, .372 3pFG, 1.7 FTs, 0.5 Stls, 0.3 Blcks, 3.1Rbs, 0.8Asts, 0.9TOs, 8.5pts. Mediocre crap across the board, really. $4.3m salary
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
$4.8, $5.3, $5.7 next three years
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
third year is not guaranteed
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Prtichard got canned today?
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions
hell yeah
you don’t mess with Paul Allen
best part
If Martell could be bundled as part of a greater trade the Blazers probably wouldn’t hesitate on his account. However there’s no harm in keeping him either. He’s like a bologna sandwich. It’s a good enough lunch but if you can swap it for someone’s Ding Dong you have to think about it.
Hassan is coming
You just know it,
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
oooh, its gonna be Orton isn't.
That guy’s useless
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
I hope so
I don’t know how long Kahn’s leash is he might be gonna before we can kahn
Ya know...I got a good feeling right now. I think this next one is gonna change our perceptions.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
whatever you're drinking...
can i have some?
by Cody_3_twins on Jun 24, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you also keep grabbing a hot pan?
Sorry, I hope you’re right, but the trend is terrible.
Well, if the guy we get is slightly worse than Webster
then color me super-excited!
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
by Victor Mature on Jun 24, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m bracing myself for giving back the “crappiest draft night” trophy I claimed after the Udoh pick.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
It's still in your hands, capn.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Not Orton. Please no
Right school, wrong centre
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
What would be worse: Orton or Whiteside?
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:39 PM CDT reply actions
Holy...fucking...shit.
I’ve been a lifelong Timberwolves fan. I go to college out of state in California and for the past three years, this site along with Britt Robson’s now defunct blog have been my sole sources of Timberwolves information. Best sportswriting on the web.
I might be done after tonight. It’s really quite sad how attached I am to this team, but I am deeply, deeply depressed. My heart actually hurts. I hope there’s some ludicrously ingenious plan behind all of these moves. But probably not.
i'm guessing crawford
Kahn needs to market to the masses
Get ready to welcome
Michael Redd to the team.
Why would we want Webster?
Didnt we just draft a SF and dont we have another young promising SF in Corey Brewer? If your gonna make a trade to Portland…..Trade for Rudy Fernandez WTF ALREADY that is a worthless trade!
I feel so sorry for that guy with the Wolves jersey.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 24, 2010 8:40 PM CDT reply actions
DX says
First senior picked in the first round is…Trevor Booker. Wow. Didn’t see that one coming. Not sure how I feel about Minnesota’s draft. Eek
We draft
A undersized PF. Bring on Simmons
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jun 24, 2010 8:41 PM CDT reply actions
Hahahaha.
Three SFs? THE STORIES JUST WRITE THEMSELVES.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 24, 2010 8:41 PM CDT reply actions
And now I wish I was right about this.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Jun 24, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
feel more like i've been raped....
crisis abuse hotline…anyone got the digits??
by Cody_3_twins on Jun 24, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
315?
Overstatement of the year.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta be a trade then
SnP called it
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
Undersized PF. Loved him in college, but this is silly.
Maroon and Gold Headquarters: The Daily Gopher
David Kahn working the NBA draft is like watching Clint Dempsey against Algeria.
Man, I’m having problems with this. The worst year in franchise history, and they’re walking out of the draft with Wes Johnson, Martell Webster, and Trevor Booker. They had a cache of picks and Jersey’s practically posted a FOR SALE sign to move down from #3… I can’t stand it.
it's more like watch Australia play Germany. Inept.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
I thought we traded Craig Smith away.
by Madison Dan on Jun 24, 2010 8:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I like Booker
No way he’s going to the Wolves though. He’s not long or athletic. Who cares if he’s productive.
Talking myself into DeMarcus Cousins since 5/18/10
I can't stop laughing.
We really are the bad news wolves.
by Bad News Wolves on Jun 24, 2010 8:42 PM CDT reply actions
An undersized PF?
If they are going to do that why not draft Damion James?
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Oh come on
even if they trade booker, which they will, this is a car crash.
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
by Victor Mature on Jun 24, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't get it...
they just did what I joked about them doing.. this is the same sh*t as last year, except with wings
turrible
somehow, Wes looks like a great pick (in comparison to the last two moves)
are we going to break the record for worst record
ever next season
it’s like watching a monkey fuck a football.
by nodnarb on Jun 24, 2010 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
That sounds a lot funnier than this
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
by Victor Mature on Jun 24, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah at least that would have some humor value
i just watched my heart get slowly ripped out for the last hour
by NuthinBurger on Jun 24, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Thankfully I was worried that we lacked an Undersized PF
Although he’ll be traded.
coulda drafted me,
undersized, not fat…perfect right??
by Cody_3_twins on Jun 24, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
If after the draft
We end up with one starter and a replacement for Damian Wilkins… Jesus.
I keep hoping that one of the talking heads will rip Kahn. But they just expect a Kahn disaster. sad.
Maroon and Gold Headquarters: The Daily Gopher
They must have sold this pick.
bummer. worst draft ever.
"You are in a position to demand *nothing*. I, on the other hand, am in a position to *grant* nothing." - Ricardo Montalban in Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
by Breaking Ankles on Jun 24, 2010 8:43 PM CDT reply actions
Way to go Kahn!
Three PGs last year- Three SFs this year!
What a maroon!!
not crawford or whiteside?
im thinking booker is not long for this team.
liking the webster trade though. great spot up shooter that we dont have.
spotup shooter we don't have?
in case you missed it, we grabbed wes johnson at 4…
Positives:
They’re not going to pay Rudy Gay $70 million over 5 years.
This may be the beginning of the end of the David Kahn era. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but…it’s gone. At least he can’t smugly imply this mess of a team isn’t his fault anymore.
What an ass.
Don't think they'll go for Gay
Now that they have Wes
Booker is just too far
that has to be someone else’s pick.
It makes perfect sense
If there’s a deal for Al on the table.
Al for Iggy?
I will not watch another second of Wolves basketball until Kahn is gone...
In the past 21 years I’ve watched or listened to 80% of the putrid franchise’s games, I’m truly done. They should just move the franchise…
how many seats will be filled next season
im guessing about 20
Im in the boat...
where I liked Wes… but the rest is a mess
Really?
We need 5 2nd round picks? What the hell for?
The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness
by Victor Mature on Jun 24, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
WOW WOW WOW WOW I'M REALLYY CONFUSED!!!
Why did we trade for Webster? We just drafted a STUD IN JONHSON and we have another young promising SF in Corey Brewer!!!! And Booker dont we already have enough Weak PF’s? We need a promising Big man Center…..Darko is Shit Stain….
NOO!!!! you idiots
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jun 24, 2010 8:46 PM CDT reply actions
We're saving money
Crawford! Crawford! Crawford!
Booker is a TERRIFIC pick
Undersized but nasty, high-energy, athletic four who can rebound and score. Hollinger, Ford, and Fraschilla all called him one of the true undervalued sleepers in this class.
Jessuz, I don’t believe you guys. Who would you have picked?
Kahn
took the worst player in the top 5. then traded away our other 2 first round picks for guaranteed picks. We got taylored again.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jun 24, 2010 8:47 PM CDT reply actions
non guaranteed
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jun 24, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
yippee
webster trade eats poop from uranus tho
what does the 30 and 35 get us?
at some point we need quality not just quantity, unless kahn knows about a rule change that you can play 7 shitty players in place of 5 good ones
how could we possibly keep this putrid franchise over the vikings
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Fire Kahn and hire Pritchard
Time’s up.
by Dave T on Jun 24, 2010 8:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
We need a manditory waiting period
For ripping Kahn. I vote for 5 minutes before each trade is announced. ;)
Ha.
And I’m beginning to agree with you…..by the end of the night, hopefully we’re happy.
Hopefully.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 24, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the trade better than the pick
but that ain’t sayin much.
lets face it
anything better than 6-7 pf
by ChicagoViking on Jun 24, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
a bag of cheese doodles
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
We've moved on guys,
next thread!
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
you cant even make this team better in NBA2k10
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Kahn must have gotten his draft philosophy from an old Carlin bit
“Never fucked a 10 before, but one night I fucked five 2’s!
Quit hating on Johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cousins will be a Major Bust…..OLD WESLEY WILL BE A STUD……everything else I have no idea WTF to think…… we have no use for Webster…..we have Brewer and Johnson……why not get Rudy F for Babbitt or just keep him…….
Cousins a bust?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. yeah right.
ailene voisin is wack!
by Bambooozled on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
.............
It Honestley makes no sense if it not……Wtf would we even want Webster for…..we just drafted Johnsons and have Brewer………Someone better teach that dummy a lesson if not
by Fantasy Master on Jun 24, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Kahnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
He better have a master plan! or he is f*****! and us last 13, 14 Wolves fans could be done forever!
That
Paulao Prestes looked like a bruiser. The Timberwolves making some good moves today.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 PM CDT reply actions
our night
Kahn is only stupid in my opinion that he let it be known who he liked if he like johnson he should have taken cousins and traded him to sac or some other team. 2 I think that the Webster trade is not all that bad. Look at it like this name one white small foward that has been any good in the last 10 years in the nba. Wally Luke Jackson ect the list goes on. I now think we have some depth on our team but I still dont like the Johnson pick
Just a point...and a small one at that.
One reason I think they moved Babbit, is that first round NBA contracts are guaranteed. 2nd rounders are not, and a high second round pick is generally considered a little more attractive than a lower first, just because of that 1st round guaranteed money.
I have no idea why Gomes needed to be thrown in the mix. Babbit straight up for Websters contract would have made some sense. The addition of Gomes baffles me.
David Kahn, ladies and gentlemen: Helping to keep the Wild’s sellout streak alive by giving Minnesota sports fans no other relevant winter sports teams. The Wolves are a running national joke for a number of years now, and it doesn’t look like things are turning around anytime soon.
I live in Portland am a Blazer fan...
Martell Webster doesn’t sound like the most attractive name, but I believe if given the playing time, which he should get on the Twolves, he will be 15-18 ppg man. In January he was unstoppable, hitting 3’s left and right, some nights he would have 5 or 6 3’s by half and finish with 25. He played well because he knew he would get th playing time every night and that no one would take his minutes. When Nicolas Batum came back, Martell played to not make mistakes and didn’t play like the real Martell. He shows flashes of brilliance some games, and it is easy to forget he is 23 and only 9 months older than Wesley Johnson.
Im not saying that the trade is great for the Twolves because the add in of Gomes is pretty rediculous, but I believe Martell won’t be as bad as some think.
Good luck next year and go Kevin Love! ( he used to destroy my high school basketball team lol)
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
By the numbers, Martell Webster last year played like he has his whole career.
And incidentally? The reminder about Johnson’s age is only salt in the wound.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
I think the folks on this board are grossly exaggerating Babbit's ceiling
I’m going to go out on a limb and make the following bold prediction about him (do like his stroke, of course):
Given that:
He is not strong
Or fast, either going forward or laterally
His first step looks like he’s pulling his foot out of a patch of sap
I think that:
He will never be even an average defender in the NBA
He will be a mediocre rebounder
His offense will likely involve situational catch and shoot for 10 minutes a game
That guy needed a stupid number of shots in college to be productive. He’s getting 3-5 a game tops for the next few years. Martell will never be a star, but he is so much more physically gifted than Babbit he can hang on lots of teams as a low-level starter. It makes sense from Portland perspective as we only need some spot minutes at 3 to open up some trade flexibility. Losing Gomes contract, from an outside perspective, seems … unwise. I guess we will see. Good luck folks, your frustration is understandable. If its any consolation, and I’m sure it will not be, we just fired the guy who “fleeced” you. Sigh.
by Sound_Automatic on Jun 25, 2010 2:53 AM CDT reply actions
The Pritchard firing is so heinous, it tops Kahn's draft performance. Only just.
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
another Blazer fan
I am no expert on Gomes, so I won’t try to talk you all into being happy about the trade. But about Martell: you’re getting a better player and team member than you think.
First, he is a solid class act and good guy.
As a player, he came in lauded for his shot. He is streaky, however, though he sometimes comes up big at big moments. He still has a lot of unrealized offensive potential and really is quite an athlete.
Here’s what may surprise you: the guy plays GOOD defense, and he plays HARD. He gets some good rebounds and is a very talented shot-blocker. And he is a thoughtful, smart player.
It’s possible that with consistent knowledge that he is a starter, he will take off. He did lead the NBA in 3’s made in January, after all. I don’t know if he will turn the corner with his offensive game or not. The good news is that even if he doesn’t, you’re still getting a good team guy and a pretty good, solid, young player.
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